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Joeiss
07-08-2002, 11:16 PM
Well... I was just chilling with my good friend Shane on my front porch the other night, and we got talking. Talking about anything on our minds. It was a really good talk. We were just hanging out, sitting on two old crappy chairs, and drinking coke (both Vanilla Coke, and Coca Cola Classic, if you wish to know). So, I just wanted to make a post about what we talked about, and it involves a wide variety of issues, so it should appeal to most of you guys here.

Death

Imaginary Life

Shane and I were talking. What if, when you die, you do not actually think that you are dead. What if you are a ghost, who goes on with your everyday things? However, instead of actually communicating with people, it is just all in your imagination. You still believe you are living, so you see things and people the exact same way you did while you were still alive. So, it is all in your head. You think that you are hanging out with your friends, or watching a movie with your girlfriend, but in actuality, you are lying in a coffin, as stiff is a rod. So, what if you are actually dead right now, as we speak? But it is just your imagination that is keeping your alive. But then again, if you were dead, then you could not be reading this message, because it is all in your head, and your head is buried six feet deep.

The only thing, however, that I do not believe that this happens is that there would be too much detail for your brain to process. I mean, all of the bugs, the flies, the people, the faces. I do not think that an imagination can process all of these things all at once (and for years and years to come). Also, what happens when you die in your "imaginary world"? Is it then that you go to heaven? Or do you not think that you die in your imaginary world also, and you just keep on keeping on? Too many holes in this theory or explanation (whatever you wish to call it). Oh, and this theory has been explored in several movies and many books. I have read a lot of things about this, and I think it is kind of cool, which is why I put it here.

Heaven and Hell

As a Christian, I believe that everybody on Earth goes to heaven. What happens in heaven, you might ask? Well, I think that heaven is a unique place, where each person who is there experiences it differently. I think that heaven is a place where everybody is still in their physical (human) form. And everybody is just chilling up there, telling stories about your time to people from the past, and vice versa. I also think that in heaven, we get to test everything out before they are created on Earth. "Nintendo Super Dupa Square Like Box 5000", oh yeah. I am allready playing it in heaven.

And then, for those people who think otherwise, it will be their otherwise. For people who believe that they can only see peoples' spirits, then so be it. For those who think that there are endless rows of tennis courts, then so be it. I do not think that people will be unhappy in heaven and beacuse of that, people will interperit (sp?) heaven differently, the way that they want to see it.

As for hell, I do believe that there is a hell. However, I believe in the New Testament of the Christian Bible. God says that he forgives all people who ask for forgiveness. Because of this, I do not see many people living in hell, except for Satan himself.

The Universe

Aliens

I really do not believe that we are alone in this massive universe of ours. Considering that when you look up at the stars at night, there is almost a star every centrimeter in the sky. This means that there are millions, or possibly even billions of stars out there possibly having the same amount of planets orbiting their sun as we do. That is billions of planets that we are talking about. I think it is ridiculous that out of all of those planets, we here on Earth are the only "intelligent" life forms in the universe.

However, if there are aliens living in different solar systems, when will we finally get the chance to meet them? When and where will the first official contact take place? I think that we still have a ways to go until this day. Also, do you guys think that other intelliegent life forms have allready made contact with eachother? Being in other solar systems and other planets? I think that there might be a solar system that has 100 planets, and each planet has communication with eathother. I cannot wait for this to happen here on Earth. I think it will take multicultralism to a whole new step (and create biggots in the process).

Space Travel

Travelling at light speed to visit other planets and different, unique creatures. Damn, that sounds crazy, and so far away! Well, even if it does take another couple hundred years, I do think that it is possible. Hell, it might not even take this long. But just think about it for a second. If Earth starts to creat things like the space ship in Star Trek, where it holds thousands of people, on route to the next star closest to ours, they will land on a planet in that solar system, and be greeted by those who left after them. I really do think that this can happen. This is because technology advances so fast, so if one of these ships leaves in the year 2100, it is probably expected to reach the next set of planets in 75 years. But, in the year 2110, newer technology is used to send a ship the the same destination, but it will only take them 50 years (which means that they will arrive 10 years before the people who left before them). I find this quite funny, and it basically makes large star ships inpractical.



Well, that is all I can think about right now. I might post again on more stuff, if I remember some more about what Shane and I were talking about. So, feel free to post your thoughts on anything I said, or on different issues as well. Just clear you mind!

The Germanator
07-09-2002, 12:13 AM
:rolleyes:

Jonbo298
07-09-2002, 12:19 AM
I don't have a set religion but I believe everyone goes to Heaven, no matter what. I dont think there is a Hell. Have you ever heard anyone say "Satan put you on this earth"? Most likely not. I've only heard people say "God put you on this earth". And with death, your idea sounds similar to the movie "The Sixth Sense" where the dude doesn't know he is dead until later on. But thats enough from me:D

GameMaster
07-09-2002, 02:04 AM
Your ideas regarding intelligent life and how perhaps "they" have already comunnicated with one another fits Carl Sagan's ideas in his novel Contact. One day, they're going to bring us into the group. When they know we're ready to handle it. Read the book or rent the movie starring Jodie Foster if you're too lazy.

sdtPikachu
07-11-2002, 02:27 AM
If you wanna read Contact (and it is a great book), I can email it to you... I've got it as a 297 KB zip file.

Though t'd be great if you bought it... Carl Sagan was a great guy :D

fingersman
07-11-2002, 09:20 AM
Imaginary Life
Ok I don't think this is possible because when your brain shuts down it's over...no more thought process, nothing...however I do believe that if your in a comma that it is possible for something like that to happen.


Heaven and Hell

I think alot of people will go to hell and have already gone to hell,think about it. Let me give you an example...your a sinner ...you murder, steal, lust, or lie and go about your daily business doing all of these or atleast some of these sin..and BLAM, you die ( probadly got hit by a truck or someone shot you or something)....do you honestly believe that person is going to heaven??

Yes Joesis, if you ask for forgiveness it is yours..but sometimes people don't get the chance to ask for it and hence not having lived a righteous life they will have to pay for it. And since no man know the hour or the min that he will die....you know where he's going if he dies. So if your dieing guys just ask for forgiveness and accept God into your life and whoosh you go into heaven.... but YOU HAVE TO MEAN IT or ...well you know have to find out more about ....... However I'm not telling any of you to wait till your dieing to do the right thing :p


The Universe

Aliens

HMMMMMMM I'm not sure where I stand is topic......but I would find it hard to believe that we're the only ones in this Universe. I'll get back to you or this

Space Travel
Well, my friend told me ...that scientist actually move objected by teleporting it.....ala startrek.....the object wasn't moved very far ...I'm not sure what distance they moved it but it's still amazing what modern science can do....just imagine...that would work wonders for organ removal.:D Beam up the heart Scottie :D

Ok that was a corny joke but I had to put it in.
Well that's my views on the subject.

Next............

Trowser
07-11-2002, 01:12 PM
Well,i dont believe this heaven crap is real because in the bible it says when you are dead you feel nothing and you are just like dust.Aliens?Just some crazy crap

Joeiss
07-11-2002, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Trowser
Aliens?Just some crazy crap

You are saying that out of the billions of the planets in the the universe, we are the only "intelligent" life forms? I find that very hard to accept.

Trowser
07-11-2002, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Joeiss


You are saying that out of the billions of the planets in the the universe, we are the only "intelligent" life forms? I find that very hard to accept.

Did you read the post?

Joeiss
07-11-2002, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Trowser


Did you read the post?

Yes.....

You said : "Aliens?Just some crazy crap"

Now, I understood it as you think that aliens are just some crazy crap. Meaning that you do not believe in them.

Now did I interperet this wrong? Or are you just trying to confuse me?

Drunk Hobbit
07-11-2002, 03:47 PM
When you die I think that's it. You're just dead. When I think about all the different forms of life and I try to insert them into the heaven/hell thing it just doesn't seem to work out. What happens when a plant dies?

Of course there are aliens. On Mars there with bacteria at one time so who knows how many billion species are alive somewhere else. A some (if not many) may be at our level or far beyond in intelligence and technology. As for all the UFO sightings and alien abductions, I'm not sure what to think. It might be the military, it might be just stupid people. Maybe in one way or another alien life has contacted our planet.

As soon as we make friends with the aliens we'll get the information on how to travel that fast. :)

And now for time travel. You'll need to set up a wormhole that can stay open continuously. From a future moment connect to that wormhole and travel back to that time. So in the future you may have a network of wormhole transporters. The thing with that is you'll only be able to travel as far back as when the wormhole was created, so no dino egg stealing for you. I guess wormholes could also be used in space travel. Send a group ahead and open a wormhole. Now all we need to do is figure out how to use this device.