View Full Version : xbox is missing something...good games
-apu-
06-25-2002, 12:43 AM
don't don't get my title wrong...it has some good games...but it can't even come close to competing with PS2...first and foremost of all AMPED SUX second, WRECKLESS:YAKUZA MISSIONS SUX, and most of the other games that i didn't bother remembering the names of suck 2
Nine Inch Nail
06-25-2002, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by -apu-
don't don't get my title wrong...it has some good games...but it can't even come close to competing with PS2...first and foremost of all AMPED SUX second, WRECKLESS:YAKUZA MISSIONS SUX, and most of the other games that i didn't bother remembering the names of suck 2 The Xbox library is pretty weak right now. Halo, Morrowind, Hunter, Rallisport, and MotoGP are the only grade "A" titles on Xbox. Many flops like JSRF, Gunvalkyrie, DOA3, Amped, Bloodwake, Nightcaster, Azurik, and etc.
Things will get better with Xbox Live...
*points to signature*
Sega fan
06-25-2002, 06:10 AM
IMO JSRF is the best title on X-Box so go figure.
Sure the X-Box is lacking games, but GCN is lacking them even more and the PS2 didn't get ANYTHING good for the last 4 months. So all consoles are low on quality games.
Angrist
06-25-2002, 06:27 AM
The X-Box does look cool, with lots of action/adventure games and stuff, but they all got bad reviews except one or two.
gekko
06-25-2002, 07:54 AM
JSRF wasn't a flop. If you like the original, the sequel ruled. If you didn't, it's not your game.
And Amped sucked, big time. So did a lot of the "amazing" launch Xbox lineup. Remember all the hype surrounding Shrek? :lol: Can't name a DOA game that was great. DOA3 was even said to be a graphically beautiful DOA2:HC )which sucked) but Xbox fans just didn't believe it.
Anywho, it has some nice sports games, not much else I care for. I like my Gamecube far better, cause it still has much better games.
Xbox has a good future, but this fall still belongs to GC. Xbox will be online, Xbox will definetly recieve the most online support. So if you want to go online in a wide variety of titles, get an Xbox. Because Xbox 2 will likely change Microsoft's online gaming plans for the worse.
Originally posted by -apu-
don't don't get my title wrong...it has some good games...but it can't even come close to competing with PS2...first and foremost of all AMPED SUX second, WRECKLESS:YAKUZA MISSIONS SUX, and most of the other games that i didn't bother remembering the names of suck 2
I would like to applaud you on your utter intelligence while making this topic. *claps*
Professor S
06-25-2002, 08:12 AM
Why do members feel the need to create topics in the XBox forum about how much it "sucks"? Why are people who don't like it so concerned about it that just have to post a new thread? Ugh.
Anyway, I know a LOT of Gamecube fans who even admit that the Gamecube lineup was pretty weak until Eternal Darkness was released. Thst a long time to have a weak line-up.
As for the fall releases, we lets just chalk that up to an issue of taste. Personally I think the XBox is going to have one of the best holiday lineups ever, for any console
gekko
06-25-2002, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by The Strangler
Anyway, I know a LOT of Gamecube fans who even admit that the Gamecube lineup was pretty weak until Eternal Darkness was released. Thst a long time to have a weak line-up.
Ya, and I know a lot who think it had a great lineup. I know a lot of Xbox fans who think Xbox's lineup blows.
Maybe it's cause 90% of the games on today's market sucks. Ya, I think that's it.
Professor S
06-25-2002, 09:36 AM
I think that XBox's line up was stronger because of the number of choices. A number of the games might not have been that great, but at least they were there to rent and try out for yourself.
The Gamecube on the other hand basically had its launch line up and then... Res Evil months later. That is poor planning. SSBM and Rougue Leader may be 2 good to great titles (I'll just say great since I've never played them so they deserve the benefit of the doubt) but it's not much to tide you over a few months.
I would rather have mildly entertaining games to play for a stretch than nothing, which was the alternative that Nintendo gave you.
-apu-
06-25-2002, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by The Strangler
I think that XBox's line up was stronger because of the number of choices. A number of the games might not have been that great, but at least they were there to rent and try out for yourself.
The Gamecube on the other hand basically had its launch line up and then... Res Evil months later. That is poor planning. SSBM and Rougue Leader may be 2 good to great titles (I'll just say great since I've never played them so they deserve the benefit of the doubt) but it's not much to tide you over a few months.
I would rather have mildly entertaining games to play for a stretch than nothing, which was the alternative that Nintendo gave you.
well i can't say that rouge leader 2 wuzn't fun.....but ssmb melee wuzn't nearly as fun as the first one...well it might be but wut wuz so fun about the first one wuz that u didnt need to learn the controls and stuff....it wuz just so eazy to figure out
Sega fan
06-26-2002, 06:13 PM
Each consoles has it's ups and downs.
Remeber how PS2 was kicking as a short time ago... look at it now. Simply pathetic, but give it a few months and it will kicking more ass than last year. So things change too fast to make topics like this.
Recently none of the consoles have had any great games.(maybe w/ the exception of ED) Hopefully things will start to get better during the fall season. But until then I'll be playin' my SNES.:roll:
bobcat
06-27-2002, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by The Strangler
Why do members feel the need to create topics in the XBox forum about how much it "sucks"? Why are people who don't like it so concerned about it that just have to post a new thread? Ugh.
Anyway, I know a LOT of Gamecube fans who even admit that the Gamecube lineup was pretty weak until Eternal Darkness was released. Thst a long time to have a weak line-up.
As for the fall releases, we lets just chalk that up to an issue of taste. Personally I think the XBox is going to have one of the best holiday lineups ever, for any console
It's a games forum.
People post their opinions.
People are probably posting threads about the Xbox "sucking" coz it does to them.
It does to me right now as well. I hope the future does show more promise. :unsure:
I've seen the upcoming titles, and unfortunately I'm still not convinced. Many unknown titles that could possibly have potential.
I'm only playing Ps2 and GC. Xbox is just sitting there..................SITTING THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :unsure:
Sega fan
06-27-2002, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by bobcat
It's a games forum.
People post their opinions.
People are probably posting threads about the Xbox "sucking" coz it does to them.
It does to me right now as well. I hope the future does show more promise. :unsure:
I've seen the upcoming titles, and unfortunately I'm still not convinced. Many unknown titles that could possibly have potential.
I'm only playing Ps2 and GC. Xbox is just sitting there..................SITTING THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :unsure:
Well do you have JSRF, Morrowind, Rallisport?? These are must haves.
GC?? What the hell can you be playing on the GCN?? The only decent title out is SSB:M here in Europe and Australia.
I just think you need to do a bit more research on the games, because the X-Box surely has potential and it HAS good games out RIGHT NOW. It's not my fault you missed out JSRF; it was the lone reason I got the X-Box over a GCN.
Just wait till we get Sega GT 2002... probably will better than GT3.
Just a word of advice... if you miss out Panzer Dragon: Orta; you my friend are a moron. (Go get a Saturn, and see what you missed out last gen; I'm speaking of Panzer Dragoon)
Panzer Dragoon: Orta
http://www.teamxbox.com/images/games/ss/111/1023817214.jpg
http://www.teamxbox.com/images/games/ss/111/1023817333.jpg
http://www.teamxbox.com/images/games/ss/111/1023817209.jpg
http://www.teamxbox.com/images/games/ss/111/1022199033.jpg
http://www.teamxbox.com/images/games/ss/111/1022199354.jpg
So now go get a Saturn for 80 euros with a Panzer Dragoon, and believe me soon you'll be all hyped up about this game.
Professor S
06-27-2002, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by bobcat
It's a games forum.
People post their opinions.
People are probably posting threads about the Xbox "sucking" coz it does to them.
LOL!!! Do you really think that 90% of the people who crirticize about the XBox actually OWN one? So, if they don't own one, how does it suck to them?
Bobcat, you don't like your XBox right now, which I think is on your head really cause there are a lot og good-great games for it right now, yet I don't see you startng threads in this forum screaming abou how much you loathe you Box. You don't see XBox fans starting threads in the GC forum screaming about the GC's MONTHS of weak games.
Yet massively critical threads are posted CONSTANTLY in this forum. Lets just ignore the fact that most of these threads are unfounded and ignorant, and just admit that they are whiny, pointless and annoying.
Sega fan
06-27-2002, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by The Strangler
LOL!!! Do you really think that 90% of the people who crirticize about the XBox actually OWN one? So, if they don't own one, how does it suck to them?
Bobcat, you don't like your XBox right now, which I think is on your head really cause there are a lot og good-great games for it right now, yet I don't see you startng threads in this forum screaming abou how much you loathe you Box. You don't see XBox fans starting threads in the GC forum screaming about the GC's MONTHS of weak games.
Yet massively critical threads are posted CONSTANTLY in this forum. Lets just ignore the fact that most of these threads are unfounded and ignorant, and just admit that they are whiny, pointless and annoying.
Seriously bobcat, with all your bitching about the X-Box having bad games... I'm starting to doubt that you actually own a X-Box.
If X-Box is lacking in games than your GCN should be in the graveyard... or is it just your bias toward Nintendo that makes you enjoy every lame game on the GCN.
For god's sake, you criticize Halo... and yet something as lame as Luigi's Mansion is getting praise from you.
bobcat
06-27-2002, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Sega fan
Well do you have JSRF, Morrowind, Rallisport?? These are must haves.
GC?? What the hell can you be playing on the GCN?? The only decent title out is SSB:M here in Europe and Australia.
I just think you need to do a bit more research on the games, because the X-Box surely has potential and it HAS good games out RIGHT NOW. It's not my fault you missed out JSRF; it was the lone reason I got the X-Box over a GCN.
Just wait till we get Sega GT 2002... probably will better than GT3.
Just a word of advice... if you miss out Panzer Dragon: Orta; you my friend are a moron.
Before I say anything, I don't like Car racing/Sport games (except for ISS.
Sega Fan, just coz you like JSRF don't mean everyone else will.
I have Rallisport (but I don't like Car Racing games). I got it 4 free with that Xbox offer (coz I bought it b4 the price drop).
JSRF I hired and thought it was ok. I nearly finished it, but I wouldn't want to buy it for the reason that the game get's too repetitive. I like the music though.
I didn't "miss out" on it. I played it for about a week (straight out) and I still didn't think it was anything special at all. Fun at first, but got tiresome. I nearly finished it, but had to give it back. It was a good rent, but I can't imagine it being a game I'd always go back to.
Is Morrowind coming on PC? I might get this game. At the moment I got Halo, DOA3, Rallisport and PGR. I liked Halo, but agree with Gekko in saying that it felt rushed. PGR and Rallisport I haven't touched coz I don't like car racers ( I got em 4 free). DOA3 looks awesome, but plays really badly. An average fighting game IMO.
So Morrowind could cut it. I'm also waiting for Project Ego, but I'm not gonna buy it till I read some reviews.
On GC I own Super Monkey Ball (which I play the most with my mates), Rogue Leader, SSB:Melee, ISS, and Waverace (which I like as well).
I own all of these games because I've always liked them (from the N64 days). So they appeal to me more than JSRF, Rallisport etc.
Which is why I probably prefer Ps2 and GC over Xbox. Because Xbox kinda came in as a new console and doesn't have any "exclusives" that really interest me. Except Halo maybe :unsure:
Panzer Dragon? I kinda liked the one on Saturn, but once again it gets repetitive, but just coz I don't get Panzer Dragon, don't make me a moron. I will see what type of game it is b4 I rent/buy it.
Sega GT being better than GT? I'd like to see that. I don't even like racing games, but it'd be VERY difficult for a Sega racing simulator to overcome the likes of GT. I know that much. But you never know :hmm:
bobcat
06-27-2002, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by The Strangler
Bobcat, you don't like your XBox right now, which I think is on your head really cause there are a lot og good-great games for it right now, yet I don't see you startng threads in this forum screaming abou how much you loathe you Box. You don't see XBox fans starting threads in the GC forum screaming about the GC's MONTHS of weak games.
Yeh good point. I guess there are ppl that don't have it but "hate" Microsoft etc.
Angrist
06-27-2002, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by bobcat
Yeh good point. I guess there are ppl that don't have it but "hate" Microsoft etc. Like me. :D ;)
Originally posted by bobcat
Before I say anything, I don't like Car racing/Sport games (except for ISS.
Sega Fan, just coz you like JSRF don't mean everyone else will.
I have Rallisport (but I don't like Car Racing games). I got it 4 free with that Xbox offer (coz I bought it b4 the price drop).
JSRF I hired and thought it was ok. I nearly finished it, but I wouldn't want to buy it for the reason that the game get's too repetitive. I like the music though.
I didn't "miss out" on it. I played it for about a week (straight out) and I still didn't think it was anything special at all. Fun at first, but got tiresome. I nearly finished it, but had to give it back. It was a good rent, but I can't imagine it being a game I'd always go back to.
Is Morrowind coming on PC? I might get this game. At the moment I got Halo, DOA3, Rallisport and PGR. I liked Halo, but agree with Gekko in saying that it felt rushed. PGR and Rallisport I haven't touched coz I don't like car racers ( I got em 4 free). DOA3 looks awesome, but plays really badly. An average fighting game IMO.
So Morrowind could cut it. I'm also waiting for Project Ego, but I'm not gonna buy it till I read some reviews.
On GC I own Super Monkey Ball (which I play the most with my mates), Rogue Leader, SSB:Melee, ISS, and Waverace (which I like as well).
I own all of these games because I've always liked them (from the N64 days). So they appeal to me more than JSRF, Rallisport etc.
Which is why I probably prefer Ps2 and GC over Xbox. Because Xbox kinda came in as a new console and doesn't have any "exclusives" that really interest me. Except Halo maybe :unsure:
Panzer Dragon? I kinda liked the one on Saturn, but once again it gets repetitive, but just coz I don't get Panzer Dragon, don't make me a moron. I will see what type of game it is b4 I rent/buy it.
Sega GT being better than GT? I'd like to see that. I don't even like racing games, but it'd be VERY difficult for a Sega racing simulator to overcome the likes of GT. I know that much. But you never know :hmm:
Bobcat, I'm confused. You bought Rallisport Challenge, yet you don't like races games. Now you really can't blame Microsoft that they don't have any good games because you buy a game that was a genre you don't like. I'm sure you could have waited to buy another game that you would like.
Morrowind came out for the PC before the Xbox version. But if you don't have a top notch PC I would advise getting it for the Xbox. It's a great RPG. How about you look over the Xbox release list I posted a few days ago and come back to me and tell me how many exclusive titles you found?
Professor S
06-27-2002, 09:45 AM
Well, we all just ignore you anyway, Angrist J/K:roll:
Shadow_Link
06-27-2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Bond
Bobcat, I'm confused. You bought Rallisport Challenge, yet you don't like races games. Now you really can't blame Microsoft that they don't have any good games because you buy a game that was a genre you don't like. I'm sure you could have waited to buy another game that you would like.
Read his post again, he didn't buy it, he got it for free. :D
I have Rallisport (but I don't like Car Racing games). I got it 4 free with that Xbox offer (coz I bought it b4 the price drop).
Look, if Bobcat doesn't like what the Xbox has to offer, don't bash him for it. He could bash you for not likeing what the GC has to offer. When it comes to gaming, there are a variety of tastes, and Bobcat seems to go with what the GC (AND PS2) has to offer.
Segafan, it is totally your opinion about what games you like, but just because you think something is 'amazing', doesn;t mean someone else will. You seem to take this very personally...:
It's not my fault you missed out JSRF
Just wait till we get Sega GT 2002...
We? What's all this we?
it was the lone reason I got the X-Box over a GCN.
Good for you, maybe he bought the GC for the sole reason of just one game?
From what I gather (and many others too, just buy looking at the games he has for the GC), he seems to like multiplayer games, and he probably likes the ones on the GC.
I bought an Xbox with Halo, and though it was a very good game, I felt I could have spent my money on better things. I held out, bought JSRF, and was mildly satisfied as it didn't offer much molre than the previous title on the DC. I still have it, but it isn't getting ANYplay time out of me. Well, my GC isn't getting alot either, but if I had the time, I would.
The games I am interested in in the future for the Xbox are:
Project Ego
BC
Blinx
Probably Halo 2
Games I'm looking foward to on the GC are:
Eternal Darkness
SFA
Metroid Prime
Wario World
Mario Sunshine
Zelda
Most, if not all the RARE games on offer
Too Human
Mario Kart
F-Zero
VFQ
Super Monkey Ball 2
Resident Evil 0, 4.
Plus some more games I can't be bothered to list :D
hen again, that's just me, I bet some of you have a list as big as mine for the Xbox... This emphasises that people have different tastes.
Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Read his post again, he didn't buy it, he got it for free. :D
Yeah, I was actually thinking that he got it for free when I posted that. Just didn't type it that way though, odd.
Professor S
06-27-2002, 02:33 PM
Shadow, it looks like there are a lot of games coming out for XBox this fall and winter that you don't know about if what you listed is all you're lookng forward to.
fingersman
06-27-2002, 03:20 PM
*sigh* this is why threads like this are pointless to a certain extend...Strangler, he may know about the games that are coming out this fall and winter...but they might not interest him. It's that simple.
PEOPLE'S TASTE VARY....thats why some people like Nintendo or Some poeple like M$ or some people like Ps2 because all of them have something offer....the people just choose which ever system suits their taste.
Well weather my words strike some sense in to anyone at all......I gotta say this people in this forum sure love to test their debating skills. :D
-apu-
06-27-2002, 03:58 PM
in my opinion the only solid good game that MOST people like for xbox is halo...i'm looking forward to the new panzer dragoon...and i seriously doubt Sega GT being any challenge to GT:rolleyes:
Sega fan
06-27-2002, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by -apu-
in my opinion the only solid good game that MOST people like for xbox is halo...i'm looking forward to the new panzer dragoon...and i seriously doubt Sega GT being any challenge to GT:rolleyes:
Sega GT will allow you to customize your car's exterior, you'll be able to buy used cars.
All these things aren't avaliable in GT3... I guess they'll be too different in play mechanics to draw a distinct winner.
bobcat, if you got your X-Box for free just sell it; but for the love of god just don't go whining around like a b!tch. I think your better of getting a few games for your PS2/GCN since they seem to satisfy you so much.
Originally posted by Sega fan
bobcat, if you got your X-Box for free just sell it; but for the love of god just don't go whining around like a b!tch. I think your better of getting a few games for your PS2/GCN since they seem to satisfy you so much.
I have a better idea. How about you give it away to one of the forum members, specifically... me.
;)
bobcat
06-27-2002, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Sega fan
Seriously bobcat, with all your bitching about the X-Box having bad games... I'm starting to doubt that you actually own a X-Box.
If X-Box is lacking in games than your GCN should be in the graveyard... or is it just your bias toward Nintendo that makes you enjoy every lame game on the GCN.
For god's sake, you criticize Halo... and yet something as lame as Luigi's Mansion is getting praise from you.
You expect me to respond to this?:rolleyes:
Ok I will ;)
With all my bitching? Er...........I just said that if people don't like what games are on Xbox, then they are entitled to say so. I don't give off a big hoot when ppl say FF sux, or Waverace sux. If they don't like it then that's them.
What you seem to be implying is that if people don't like the games that you like, they are "morons". That's just stupid.
I don't mind Luigi's Mansion. I hired it and thought it was ok. Where did I "give praise" to Luigi's Mansion? :unsure:
No but you're right. I don't have an Xbox (damn they caught me out). I'm just making it all up. Xbox Sux, the controller Sux.......HALO sux...........Kill Bill Gates!!!!
DIE MICRSOFT!!!!!!!!DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*breaks Xbox in half*
Ah that's better........
:rolleyes:
bobcat
06-27-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Sega fan
bobcat, if you got your X-Box for free just sell it; but for the love of god just don't go whining around like a b!tch. I think your better of getting a few games for your PS2/GCN since they seem to satisfy you so much.
First of all I'm not "whining", I'm stating why I don't like the current Xbox games. Where does this "whining" come into it ? :unsure:
Where did I say I got my Xbox for free? Where did I say I prase Luigi's Mansion? Before you post, it might help not to put words in other peoples mouths.
iAnd d00d for the love of god read my post properly. I didn't get my XBox for free I bought it with my hard earned cash!! I was just expecting more of its games.
And I'm not gonna sell it just incase some games come out that might interest me (like Morrowind maybe). It's just DOA3 didn't do it for me (but graphically it did) and you've read my reasons for Halo. I liked it a lot, but there were some things that could have made it so much better.
bobcat
06-27-2002, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Jin
I have a better idea. How about you give it away to one of the forum members, specifically... me.
;)
I have a better idea. I will sell them to make money ;)
bobcat
06-27-2002, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Bond
Bobcat, I'm confused. You bought Rallisport Challenge, yet you don't like races games. Now you really can't blame Microsoft that they don't have any good games because you buy a game that was a genre you don't like. I'm sure you could have waited to buy another game that you would like.
Morrowind came out for the PC before the Xbox version. But if you don't have a top notch PC I would advise getting it for the Xbox. It's a great RPG. How about you look over the Xbox release list I posted a few days ago and come back to me and tell me how many exclusive titles you found?
I saw the Stranglers post....
Blinx looked like one I'd be interested in. The others I don't know coz I haven't heard of em b4. They could be really good, but I gotta check first.
Oh and my PC AMD 1.4...........yada yada yada. SHould handle it fine.
Can you post me the link to ur post?
Thanks!
Shadow_Link
06-27-2002, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by The Strangler
Shadow, it looks like there are a lot of games coming out for XBox this fall and winter that you don't know about if what you listed is all you're lookng forward to.
Er... No, I bought an Xbox, therefore I constantly check out the news concerned with the Xbox. I have looked at basically all the games, and I have listed what interests me. It may be a strange concept to some people, but people like different things :rolleyes:. And in this case, I don't seem to like as many games as some Xbox owners.
I WAS thinking of buying Morrow Wind, but since I'm going to get a new graphics card and all, I just thought I would buy it for the PC instead.
Unreal Championship looks interesting, then again, Unreal Tournament 2 looks a whole lot better, in more ways than one.
There are obviously soe other games that are coming out for the Xbox, but they are also coming out for the GC, for example Vexx, and Rayman 3. I will be getting these games for the GC most probably since they will be cheaper, and the controlls more comfortable IMO.
Originally posted by bobcat
I saw the Stranglers post....
Blinx looked like one I'd be interested in. The others I don't know coz I haven't heard of em b4. They could be really good, but I gotta check first.
Oh and my PC AMD 1.4...........yada yada yada. SHould handle it fine.
Can you post me the link to ur post?
Thanks!
Here you go bobcat. I would also advise that you take a look at the list if you haven't already Shadow Link:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2422
Shadow_Link
06-27-2002, 07:08 PM
Oh I did miss one game, Ninja Gaiden. Like Isaid though, I have been over that list before, Quantem Red shift interests me somewhat, but then F-Zero will satisfy my needs i that department :D.
But thanks for trying Bond.
bobcat
06-27-2002, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Bond
Here you go bobcat. I would also advise that you take a look at the list if you haven't already Shadow Link:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2422 Thank you Bond!
I'll go have a look when I get home from work :sneaky:
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