Rare Going Multiplatform, Final!

[gekko]

From Senor Matt:

Uh-oh.

Just a little news. I am absolutely certain that Rare is going multiplatform now. The developer will make its own announcement in this regard. I'm not sure when.

Everyone still holding out, still doubting -- prepare to be wrong.

Matt


I know Rare is going multiplatform. This is something I *know* is happening. Not something I've heard. Not a rumor. A fact. I'm sorry, but I can't reveal how I know just yet.

As to why, though, I'm not sure. But I have some good ideas.

My speculation on the subject is this: It was a Nintendo decision. Or perhaps it was a mutual decision. Whichever, Nintendo definitely influenced it. Nintendo is first and foremost a business. It is a company that in the past has not been hesitant to sever business ties if they have not proven beneficial.

Rare is a slow-moving development studio. Its last N64 projects garnered disappointing sales, especially Conker's Bad Fur Day -- a game in the works for several years. Meanwhile, it has yet to release a GameCube title, and it was one of the very first studios to receive GCN development hardware.

In short, Nintendo has to be losing money on these guys, and the giant has to be frustrated.

So a new Nintendo strategy develops. No longer looking to the second-party model, Nintendo throws projects to its first-party USA house NST, buys Retro (in practice making the company first-party), and shifts focus again. Now it's dishing out its big-name licenses to interested third-party developers -- Namco, Sega, Capcom (and more to come). It's a win-win situation really. These third-parties get lucrative licenses to work with, nearly guaranteeing them massive sales, and Nintendo gets quality products from some of the best developers in the world.

With these extra Nintendo-branded games coming in from third-parties, Rare may not be as integral to the future success of GameCube as it once seemed. Rare, meanwhile, clearly wants more freedom. Rumors of the Stamper Bros. wanting to retire could be true. And Microsoft and Activision have been doing their best to entice the company over to Xbox and PS2 development respectively.

And so it happens.

Matt

[Idiot]

Balls,balls,balls,balls,balls,balls,balls,balls. This is, in no uncertain terms, a pile of ****. Senor Matt is speaking bollo***. ( On another note, I would like to apologise for my recent grumpiness, and sorry to all members of GameTavern.)

[Mushlafa]

In your face ric, CH, and shadow_link :p
I dont really care that much cause they'll still be making the same games for GC but they'l be making diff once for diff consoles

Originally posted by Idiot
Balls,balls,balls,balls,balls,balls,balls,balls. This is, in no uncertain terms, a pile of ****. Senor Matt is speaking bollo***. ( On another note, I would like to apologise for my recent grumpiness, and sorry to all members of GameTavern.)

Your so ignorant... you cant face the fact that Rare could develope for another console..

[Idiot]

For a start Mushlafa, there is no evidence of:

1: A breakdown between Nintendo and Rare.

2: The Stamper Bros, having any campaign to break away from Nintendo.

3: The Stamper Bros, can afford to buy out Nintendo's 45% stake in the company.

4: Rare has little chance of developing into a major softco. (Due to the dependance on Nintendo for a finnancialy safe infastructure.)

5: Rare games are an aqquired taste at times. Would Rare survive independent for long with it's essentialy British portfolio.

On another note, consider this: The Stamper Bros are worth £90. Nintendo provides Rare with financial, coding, creative, hardware and liscence support. Would you gamble this by going independent and a high probability of losing it all. Would you do that Mushlafa. I would probably think not.

[Mushlafa]

Rare going multi platform doesnt mean that they wont make games for Gamecube anymore....

Well Matt said that this was either a Mutual decision or one made by Nintendo... it would be making Nintendo more money and it would also make rare more money.. so what are they losing if they develope for other systems... they're games will probably still sell like hot cakes because of all the snes fans that probably liked donkey kong when they were younger..

Im bad at getting my point across... but all i really wanna say is how is nintendo or Rare losing anything by going multi pllatform?

[Null]

Rare rumored to go 3rd party...........


Nintendo takes new direction, Says to focus on games now.
(maybe no more console making)



rumors say Nintendo is the one that made the decision to let Rare go..


Maybe Nintendo wants out of making console, and wants to make games only. therefor not needing Rare.

[Mushlafa]

:eek: :eek: Null posted !

Well ... Im gonna have to hope that your wrong null :p
but who knows maybe hes right...

I feel like im post cramming :unsure: oh well

[Joeiss]

Originally posted by Idiot
3: The Stamper Bros, can afford to buy out Nintendo's 45% stake in the company.

The Stamper Bros. do not have to buy out Nintendo's 45% stake in the company to be independant. You see, Nintendo has a large stake in it, but it is not a majority. Thus, leaving Rare with the choice to do what they want.

[Bond]

Originally posted by Idiot
On another note, consider this: The Stamper Bros are worth £90. Nintendo provides Rare with financial, coding, creative, hardware and liscence support. Would you gamble this by going independent and a high probability of losing it all. Would you do that Mushlafa. I would probably think not.
Could I please see evidence to support that statement?

[gekko]

Originally posted by Idiot
For a start Mushlafa, there is no evidence of:

1: A breakdown between Nintendo and Rare.

2: The Stamper Bros, having any campaign to break away from Nintendo.

3: The Stamper Bros, can afford to buy out Nintendo's 45% stake in the company.

4: Rare has little chance of developing into a major softco. (Due to the dependance on Nintendo for a finnancialy safe infastructure.)

5: Rare games are an aqquired taste at times. Would Rare survive independent for long with it's essentialy British portfolio.

On another note, consider this: The Stamper Bros are worth £90. Nintendo provides Rare with financial, coding, creative, hardware and liscence support. Would you gamble this by going independent and a high probability of losing it all. Would you do that Mushlafa. I would probably think not.
1. Matt explained it clearly. Rare isn't making them much money, if any. And if you look at how much Retro has done even with management problems, you gotta think they are moving away from Rare.

2. No one said there was. You made this one up.

3. If Nintendo chooses to sell it, yes. So could Bill Gates, doesn't mean it will happen.

4. That's true. But from the sounds of it, Nintendo wants Rare gone, so why would it matter if Rare actually does well afterwards?

Nintendo is a company looking to make money, they're not like MS who won't profit from Xbox, and likely will never make up for lost $$$. Rare takes forever to develop a game, and every day that passes costs more money to pay the employees. Now with games like GoldenEye, it's all worth it. But not all their games have done well, so it doesn't help Nintendo financially. Then they had dev kits before anyone, and they still don't have games out. Hell, Star Fox Adventures was already planned and in development for N64, they should've had this done a long time ago, and been ahead on Kameo and DKR.

If I were Nintendo, I'd be much more willing to put money into Retro, NST, and SK. NST is just damn good at making games, Retro has one of the best facilities in the world, and SK has tons of talent, and I want Too Human! I'm not even very interested in SFA, only the classic flying portion really. Don't care much for the sounds of Kameo, and DKR doesn't seem to be making any progress. Does this sound like a company who you want to put a lot of money into?

Look at Retro. They are just doing Metroid right now, because before the mangement problems they didn't get anything done. But they also have ideas, games planned that were canceled because of Metroid. Car Combat looked pretty sweet, and it was actually being developed if I remember right, to be an online game. Their football game had nice cheerleaders :D

[gekko]

For for idiot, who thinks he's right and Matt's wrong:

Haha. Take it easy, guys. Ed the Janitor reported this stuff months ago -- I'm just throwing in my two cents.

A couple of criticisms thrown my way that I'd like to address:

#1. Someone claimed I was totally wrong on Left Field. How? We reported that Left Field wasn't an exclusive second-party anymore, that the company had been stripped fo 1080 by Nintendo, that it was making Backyard Football for other consoles. At E3 2002 we learned that Left Field was not in the works with any Nintendo-published games, that 1080 was being handled by NST and that Left Field was the developer of Backyard Football. How in the heck does that make us wrong? Please -- tell me. I'd like to know.

#2. I've been wrong more times than I've been right. Buh? How so? I can go all the way to IGN64 and cite news stories that we broke, from Dolphin, to the shape of the controller, to the specs of the machine and the DVD drive type, right up to Soul Calibur 2 being shown at Space World, or that Metroid was an FPA, or that one could see through the eyes of Samus in a special visor view.

So far I can think of only two IGNcube news reports that have yet to be proven true. The first was that Perfect Dark 0 would not ship until at least 2003 and might not come out until 2004 -- a report that looks to be true. And second, that SC2 would be running on Triforce arcade hardware. Nevermind that we broke the news OF the Triforce arcade hardware in the same story. We also broke the news that Namco would develop Star Fox on the Triforce hardware, but again everyone seems to forget when we break the news.

But I digress. You can choose to believe our information or not. That's cool -- that's up to you, and if you'd rather wait for the official announcement (which will come from Rare, not Nintendo, by the way), that's your decision.

But anybody who thinks they can use this as a chance to question IGNcube's credibility has another thing coming entirely.

Matt

Haha, sounds pretty confident. Still thinks it's balls?

[BlueFire]

Hmm...Oh well. :p




*waits for Ric* ;)

[DeathsHand]

IGN isn't the only place confident Rare is going third party... PSM is too... but I already posted a topic about that :p

Anyways... I'd be surprised if they don't go multiplatform... not only were there tons of rumors (like there were before Square finally announced they'd develop for NGC, while Sony fans screamed that it wouldn't happen in a million years), but now all of a sudden apparently there is something that a few very reliable sources have been hearing that makes them like 100% sure they will go multiplatform...

But still it's not official until it's announced by Rare... But it just sounds so convincing... unless you're Ric.... or Idiot..... :D

:sneaky:

[Angrist]

Ric hasn't been online this month, I wonder what's up with him. I asked DC but he hasn't seen him either. :confused: CH?

Oh well I guess I have to except this. That explenation of why Nintendo decided it sounds very convincing.

I actually start to not like them. They still haven't finished a game for GC! :mad: Just give us SFA and leave! And make a Perfect Dark sequel (exclusive of course, unless they decide not to use Joanna Dark). That's all I want from you. Let Nintendo or some other company make a original DK game, unlike the terrible DK64! :green:

[Blix]

Would you gamble this by going independent and a high probability of losing it all. Would you do that Mushlafa. I would probably think not. Shouldn't these have question marks?:hmm: Sorry, I just felt that necessary. :D Anyway, I also think that Rare leaving Nintendo is definitive. As long as rare exist and I can buy their game, on nintendo's or anyone's console, I'll be happy. I just hope they can survive alone. Rare just haven't given me the impresion of being a company that can stand on its own. :\

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Angrist
I actually start to not like them. They still haven't finished a game for GC! :mad: Just give us SFA and leave! And make a Perfect Dark sequel (exclusive of course, unless they decide not to use Joanna Dark). That's all I want from you. Let Nintendo or some other company make a original DK game, unlike the terrible DK64! :green:

Pretty stupid getting mad at a company just because they might leave as a Nintendo second party :p

Anyways... who said they're leaving? Even if they become a third party, doesn't mean they won't make anymore games for NGC... and if Sega and Namco can get Nintendo licenses, surely another good developer that even used to be a Nintendo second party could get one now and then to make exclusively for a Nintendo system, right?.... Right? It's possible, right? :confused:

:D

[fingersman]

Yes it is possible DH.:p

I think people are questioning IGN's reliablity because they don't want to believe it.
While Rare's games are good they do then to take a little while to get on the shelves.( it looks like the same for SK as well, but time will tell)

Besides what is everyone worried about?? The worst that could happen is Rare decides not to develop for GC at all. :p
(hehehehe maybe I shouldn't have said that)

[Angrist]

I'm not mad with them because they are leaving Nintendo, just because they haven't made any good games the last year. :unsure:

[GameKinG]

As long as they dont port current exclusives (or at least not soon), and give GC PD0 first, Im happy.

[Revival]

GameKinG, why don't you want PD0 to come to NGC first? :confused:

[GameKinG]

That dose loose confusing, but the "not" only refers to the porting, which means I do want PD0 first for GC.

[Revival]

Oh ok, I didn't know you were talking about porting. Thanks for clearing that all up.

Edit: I don't want that to happen either :D

[Angrist]

I still don't think they can bring out a PD game on a not-Nintendo system, because it's licenced by Nintendo. Of course they could create a totally new franchise and never make another PD game. Perhaps Nintendo will make it one day.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Angrist
I still don't think they can bring out a PD game on a not-Nintendo system, because it's licenced by Nintendo. Of course they could create a totally new franchise and never make another PD game. Perhaps Nintendo will make it one day.

I'd like to see them try something more modern... But not like james bondish...

But rather an war type of game... Either modern like medal of honor, or some big like space marine war... like umm... I dunno is halo like that? I guess it kinda is, I've never played it though so I dunno the whole deal... but it seems like human peoples against aliens... I mean like a big war of like humans vs. humans... in like a starcraft setting... multiple planets and all... big a FPS... :sneaky:

Bye...

[Angrist]

Sounds cool! :D

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Angrist
I still don't think they can bring out a PD game on a not-Nintendo system, because it's licenced by Nintendo. Of course they could create a totally new franchise and never make another PD game. Perhaps Nintendo will make it one day.

Um... Methinks Rare owns the name "Perfect Dark"(<--no facts to back this up)

Also, even if Ninteno does own the name "Perfect Dark", they could slightly change the name to... say... "After Dark" or some other "Dark" name :)

I mean, nintendo doesn't own them all... or do they :sneaky:

[Angrist]

Hmm... I'll check out the game and see what it says...

[GameKinG]

Well, I dont know how ownership works with nintendo, but they seem to get really uptight about people using their stuff. So even If they changed the name but used all the same people or whatever, It might not work.

And DH: Medal of Honor is World War II, how modern:rolleyes:

Perfect Dark is 2020 or something, thats above modern...Its future.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by GameKinG
And DH: Medal of Honor is World War II, how modern:rolleyes:

lol.. good point...

But when I say more modern, I mean not crazy in the future... With lots of magical... futureness... and not set in some kind of fake world or something... but taking place in the real world, and with the army and junk with more modern weapons... Sorry I couldn't think of a more modern FPS that's in that same army/war style, but I think if there's anything like that it'd be on PC... and since my PC blows, I wouldn't know about it :p

So hows about you just go die? :D

I'd rather get a futuristic war game though... With the neato space marines and a big battlefield with lots of crazy shooting people and big mechs and all this crap... and you run into like Militia or whatever and crap...

But still.... :sneaky: Go die :mad:

[gekko]

Originally posted by TheGame


Um... Methinks Rare owns the name "Perfect Dark"(<--no facts to back this up)

Also, even if Ninteno does own the name "Perfect Dark", they could slightly change the name to... say... "After Dark" or some other "Dark" name :)

I mean, nintendo doesn't own them all... or do they :sneaky:

It is very ignorant to assume Rare owns the name, having done no research at all. Hehe. Anywho, Rare owns the following:

Perfect Dark
Kameo
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Grabbed by the Ghoulies
It's Mr. Pants
Shot in the Dark
Conker's Pocket Tales
Jet Force Gemini
Dinosaur Planet
Monster Max

So basically, their biggest games they don't have right to. Perfect Dark they have, and that's really all they got to work with. Dinosaur Planet, who cares, they can't make a sequel without Star Fox. Conker sold like **** on N64, I doubt it will do well. Kameo doesn't seem to strike anyway as a great game. Jet Force Gemini was never too popular.

Anyway, After Dark is a dead trademark, Rare had it. But Nintendo could easily just create a new storyline and make a new FPS, I mean, it's not like the PD story was that great.

[GameKinG]

Yeah, PD is basicly GoldenEye but with a different story. It could be easily remade, probably better. Good point.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by gekko


It is very ignorant to assume Rare owns the name, having done no research at all. Hehe. Anywho, Rare owns the following:

Yes, yes it is, but as long as I'm right it's all good :p

Conker sold like **** on N64, I doubt it will do well.

Well, not many mature games sold well on N64... maybe that's why Nintendo is droping Rare, or why Rare is leaving Nintendo :p

[Angrist]

They're dropping Rare because they make mature games?? :rolleyes:

I suddenly thought about Killer Instinct! :eek: A game beside PD that I care about! Does Rare own that??? :unsure: :o

[Blix]

Originally posted by TheGame


Yes, yes it is, but as long as I'm right it's all good :p



Well, not many mature games sold well on N64... maybe that's why Nintendo is droping Rare, or why Rare is leaving Nintendo :p [/B]
Yeah! That's why capcom is making games like RE for the GC. :rolleyes: :p

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Nemesis

Yeah! That's why capcom is making games like RE for the GC. :rolleyes: :p

What does capcom have to do with any of this? :confused: :D

BTW, I heard RE sold sorta bad in Japan... at least for RE standards and all of that hype... :p

I dunno about here... it probably did a bit better...

Anyways... if Nintendo is dropping rare, I doubt they'd do it because they make M rated games or whatever... or because some of their games didn't sell well on N64 :rolleyes:

tee hee hee...

[Blix]

I don't know. I guess that Nintendo doesn't want mature games on its consoles so that's why they wanted to have the RE series exclusive (Cause it's kiddie). So, that's also why Nintendo wants to get rid of Rare. Makes sense doesn't it?:rolleyes:

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Nemesis

Yeah! That's why capcom is making games like RE for the GC. :rolleyes: :p

Resident Evil is only one series of many of Capcom's mature games... it's not like they are making EVERY game for gamecube, and EVERY game exclusive. For some reason, I doubt there will be any more exclusive "M" rated games coming to Gamecube from Capcom.

but like DsH said, what does this have to do with Rare?

[Ric]

And finally Ric arrives.

Now now, all these people talking behind my back. I'll have my revenge in due course, you mark my words.

You know what I am going to say now dont you.

'IT'S BOLLOCKS... BOLLOCKS I TELL YOU'

Why oh why do people read so much into internet rumour. Do you not consider the fact that Rare are in fact teasing IGN.

I stand firmly by my word, until I see it, it's a complete load of dog turd and I wish everyone would shut the fu#k up about it.

You're all entitled to your opinions but until an official announcement is made (which it wont be) I say this is crap.

DOWN WITH INTERNET RUMOURS, DOWN WITH IGN. :mad2:

[Angrist]

Ric's back! :D

Well IGN always has it's contacts and stuff... I'm just :unsure: about it! I don't think I would mind much because for us it wouldn't make a huge difference... I mean we'll get SFA and PD0 and perhaps even KI3. :)

:unsure:

[TheGame]

Originally posted by Ric
And finally Ric arrives.

Now now, all these people talking behind my back. I'll have my revenge in due course, you mark my words.

You know what I am going to say now dont you.

'IT'S BOLLOCKS... BOLLOCKS I TELL YOU'

Why oh why do people read so much into internet rumour. Do you not consider the fact that Rare are in fact teasing IGN.

I stand firmly by my word, until I see it, it's a complete load of dog turd and I wish everyone would shut the fu#k up about it.

You're all entitled to your opinions but until an official announcement is made (which it wont be) I say this is crap.

DOWN WITH INTERNET RUMOURS, DOWN WITH IGN. :mad2:

I think Rare would have denied the rumor by now...

I mean, Nintendo denys Rumors when they haven't even made it to magizines yet... and Rare has been on covers of magizines and they still have yet to deny it.

You don't believe it because you don't want to believe it, you haven't said anything that will completly convence me that Rare isn't leaving, yet you get all mad.

I'm not going to say Rare is leaving, and I'm not going to say Rare isn't leaving... I just know that this rumor has been going on FAR too long not to have a responce from Rare.

[BlueFire]

Originally posted by Ric
And finally Ric arrives.

Now now, all these people talking behind my back. I'll have my revenge in due course, you mark my words.

You know what I am going to say now dont you.

'IT'S BOLLOCKS... BOLLOCKS I TELL YOU'

Why oh why do people read so much into internet rumour. Do you not consider the fact that Rare are in fact teasing IGN.

I stand firmly by my word, until I see it, it's a complete load of dog turd and I wish everyone would shut the fu#k up about it.

You're all entitled to your opinions but until an official announcement is made (which it wont be) I say this is crap.

DOWN WITH INTERNET RUMOURS, DOWN WITH IGN. :mad2: God, Now I kind of hope this is true so I can just see what you type then. Heh. Ric, you can't just close this off. You might be right, you might be wrong..but..geez..it looks like it has a chance of happening.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by BLueFire
God, Now I kind of hope this is true so I can just see what you type then. Heh. Ric, you can't just close this off. You might be right, you might be wrong..but..geez..it looks like it has a chance of happening.

I agree with everything you said :D

:sneaky:

I like seeing what people say when they're like 100% sure one thing's gonna happen, but then something else happens... it's funny.... :sneaky: :sneaky: :unsure:

bye

[Professor S]

With all the rumors guaranteeing Rare's departure from Nintendo, and the fact that Rare has done nothing to quell these rumors, i believe we can all start leaning towards the way of "Rare waves bye-bye":D

(I don't really care, as I am getting a GC, but I find provoking Ric amusing)

[Idiot]

Everybody should listen to Ric because he's (Probably) British. Indeed.:D

[Nine Inch Nail]

I see the "rumor mill" is at full force. :rolleyes: Everyone that is buying into this crap: you are all easily scammed.

I won’t believe a damn thing until I hear an OFFICIAL announcement by Rare themselves.

[Sega fan]

Somehow I think the only way Rare will leave is if it gets finacial support from Microsoft and Sony to develop games for their consoles.

But I really don't see the point in them leaving, I mean it's not as if those frachise would sell as great on the X-Box or PS2 as well as they sold on a Nintendo system. Not leaving out the fact that each game will appear on all consoles (like Tony Hawk).

Still rather pointless if you ask me. Although I remeber hearing a rumour about Starfox heading to PS2; but if I'm not mistaking it was shot down.

[Shadow_Link]

Bit of a stupid rumour if you ask me. How can starfox, a game containing a nintendo mascot, appear on another console? :-o

I wonder when we will learn the truth about the whole situation...

Originally posted by Idiot
Everybody should listen to Ric because he's (Probably) British. Indeed.:D

Indeed. Some people don't get British humour. And Rare are as British as you can get... Still...

[Ironfoot]

Has anyone noticed that Rare hasn't said anything in this yet? The rumor spread with the release of the Christmas card, yet Rare hasn't said a thing afterwards. Either I'm missing out on something, or people needs to ask RARE for solutions, not NINTENDO.

[Nine Inch Nail]

The God damn rumor mill running at full force, and some of you people are buying into it. :rolleyes:

Maybe I will actually buy into it, when I hear an OFFICIAL announcement from Rare themselves. :unsure:

[Mushlafa]

Do you have a good reason that you dont beleive the rumor? Do you have any evidence that sais its not true..

On the other hand.. you got rare keeping their mouth shut about it.. not saying anything at all.. not denying it .. and you have a lot of major news sources saying that its going to happen for sure .. they are 100% sure.. Why not beleive them.. IGN is usually right bout these sort of things :p

[BlueFire]

Originally posted by Mushlafa

On the other hand.. you got rare keeping their mouth shut about it.. not saying anything at all.. not denying it ..
"Rare is just teasing IGN."
-Ric

[Nine Inch Nail]

Originally posted by Mushlafa
Do you have a good reason that you dont beleive the rumor? Do you have any evidence that sais its not true..

On the other hand.. you got rare keeping their mouth shut about it.. not saying anything at all.. not denying it .. and you have a lot of major news sources saying that its going to happen for sure .. they are 100% sure.. Why not beleive them.. IGN is usually right bout these sort of things :p Rare is just making a mockery of IGN (playing with their heads). Sorry, but I don't buy into rumors that easily. :shakehead

[Ric]

I never said Rare 'are' teasing IGN, I suggested that perhaps they might be, it would be funny if this was all a practical joke.

I say now I am 99.999999999999999% (Not 100%) sure this is all a bunch of crap. And as for Starfox going to other consoles, that is laughable.

I still say you shouldn't buy into internet rumour too much if at all, least of all this one. You wait till Starfox Adventures is released then you will see why Nintendo wont let Rare go and why Rare dont want to go.

[Angrist]

What can I say...? Most N-fans don't really mind about Rare now with all the rumors... The only games I want them to make for the Cube are PD0 and KI3.

[Revival]

Originally posted by Ric
I never said Rare 'are' teasing IGN
Good, because it would be Rare is :p

[Angrist]

No it wouldn't. "The police are investigating blah blah..." Rare ARE. :p

[BlueFire]

Originally posted by Ric
I never said Rare 'are' teasing IGN, I suggested that perhaps they might be, it would be funny if this was all a practical joke.

I say now I am 99.999999999999999% (Not 100%) sure this is all a bunch of crap. And as for Starfox going to other consoles, that is laughable.

I still say you shouldn't buy into internet rumour too much if at all, least of all this one. You wait till Starfox Adventures is released then you will see why Nintendo wont let Rare go and why Rare dont want to go. I never believed that SFA will be released on other consoles, but Rare developing for other consoles is possible. :p

[Revival]

Ahem.. lemme get back to you on that.. I'm pretty sure "the police" is plural.

[GameKinG]

Yup, it is.

[gekko]

Star Fox won't be released on other consoles because Nintendo owns the rights to the name. Perfect Dark, Kameo, and Conker is basically all that would leave.

[Joeiss]

Does Rare own the rights to Diddy, Dixie and that other fat little kong? And what about those Kongs in DK64? Who owns all of them???

[GameKinG]

Nintendo probably.

[Nine Inch Nail]

Originally posted by GameKinG
Nintendo probably. Nintendo publishes the Donkey Kong series, so I think they have partial rights to the franchise. I dunno; I could be wrong...:eyes:

[Shadow_Link]

Originally posted by Biohazard
Nintendo publishes the Donkey Kong series, so I think they have partial rights to the franchise. I dunno; I could be wrong...:eyes:

Nintendo owns the Donkey Kong franchise...

[Bube]

OK, this is a pretty old topic, but I didn't want to make a new one.

So, here's the news (which most of you will have heard by now). Microsoft is about to buy Rare for £350 million.

This topic was about Rare going multiplatform and a lot of people didn't want this to happen. Now they're going MS exclusive. I hope it isn't true.

Here are some links:
http://www.rarenet.com/cgi-bin/ib/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=21
http://www.rareops.com/news/news.php?&index=132
http://www.raretopia.com/news/2002/09/06.html
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php?id=79789
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=dev&aid=663

[GameKinG]

So far its most evidently not.

[Mushlafa]

ok hold up... rare wanted to do this to make more money right? So if they go from being exclusive to nintendo to exclusive to microsoft how does that help their situation at all?

and if im not mistaken... Gamecube is selling better than xbox worldwide?

[quiet mike]

If Microsoft does a corporate take over, they could force enough share holders to sell until they get the majority of shares and Rare would have no choice.

If thsi won't be happening, Rare will choose what to do, but in the rhythm they work they will need a lot of financing available which will be hard to find and it might flopp. That's why Nintendo doesen't want, and maybe that's why the brothers are thinking of getting a fresh start. They have lost some of their best people to indipendent companies anyways.

[Crono]

I am totally fine with Rare going multiplatform, as long as they dont make exclusive Xbox games cuz I dont have one. :p

And I agree, Rare barely makes Nintendo any money, seriously, does everybody remember when SFA was announced as a GCN launch title? then it was pushed to december, then march, then july, then finally september! like WTF, they produce one awesome game every 2 years, if that, and if they make games on PS2 they wont be houded for them to be perfection. :p

Besides, all Nintendo has to do is open up another devlopment house (like Retro) or maybe pick up another 2nd Party developer...I'm sure they have enough money.

Edit: WTF..this thread is old...I just realized that.

[Angrist]

Very old... :D
Hope it ain't true.

[Angrist]

Very old... :D
Hope it ain't true.