New info via Matt Casamassina

[gekko]

Matt's answering questions in a chat right now. Here's some stuff:

- Something's definetly up with Rare, the way even Nintendo dodged questions

- Square's secrets aren't too far off, he thinks

- The mature link you once saw isn't entirely gone. Doesn't mean mature Zelda is on the way. Will learn more in near future. Cool thing, he promises.

- Big PD secret didn't happen at E3, but you will like it.

- Too Human likely at Spaceworld. SK finishing up ED right now, should be on time.

- 30 minutes of Zelda footage and 45 minutes of Mario footage to put up

- Metroid is roughly 7 hours long. Matt loves Halo, and says Metroid will own it.

- Matt is confident Rare will develop for other platforms.

Hmm... could Link evolve in the game (that would be funny), or maybe Mario Kart? Matt always does this.

[DeathsHand]

I think the most likely situation thing about the Realistic Link not being gone entirely is like... He'll be in more of the mario "spin offs" or whatever... kart, golf, stuff he wasn't in before... and he'll stay realistic kinda because... well, those games aren't cel-shaded :p

But I dunno why that'd be such a cool thing :unsure:

but still... Or maybe they're making some sort of Link game... like Mario tennis, mario golf, mario this mario that... maybe they're making... Zelda something or other... :unsure:

[Ginkasa]

I hope Link isn't in any "party" games. At least not in any Mario games. Those are more Mario unvierse characters, Mario Bros., Wario, Peach, Yoshi, etc. He wouldn't fit.

The growing up wouldn't be bad, he grew up in OoT.

[DeathsHand]

Maybe Link will get his own special mini-game type of game with like... different modes based on Zelda stuff... shooting gallery, horseback archery (with lots of different courses to choose from)... ummm.... some other mini-games :p Some other stuff based on mini-games from older zeldas... with lots of neat secrets to be found and fun to be had by all! :unsure:

[BlueFire]

Originally posted by gekko
[B]Matt's answering questions in a chat right now. Here's some stuff:


- Square's secrets aren't too far off, he thinks I hope so..

- The mature link you once saw isn't entirely gone. Doesn't mean mature Zelda is on the way. Will learn more in near future. Cool thing, he promises.Cool.

- Big PD secret didn't happen at E3, but you will like it. Interesting

- Too Human likely at Spaceworld. SK finishing up ED right now, should be on time. Can't wait for that.

- Metroid is roughly 7 hours long. Matt loves Halo, and says Metroid will own it.Strong statement. Hope it's as good as he says it is.

- Matt is confident Rare will develop for other platforms. Oh well.. :unsure:

[Ric]

Originally posted by gekko
- Matt is confident Rare will develop for other platforms.

- Matt admits he wasn't listening properly.

:mad2: It's Bollocks :mad2:

Who the hell is Matt Casamassina anyway?

Originally posted by gekko
- Metroid is roughly 7 hours long. Matt loves Halo, and says Metroid will own it.

I thought as much, Metroid's going to kick arse :banana:

[gekko]

Originally posted by Ric
Who the hell is Matt Casamassina anyway?

IGNcube editor.

[Bond]

Originally posted by gekko


IGNcube editor.
Hmm, not that reliable then. You gave the impression he was a Nintendo representative. I mean of course he is going to say Rare is going to develop for other consoles, because that is what his website reported and that is what he is paid to say. Great traffic drawer also.

[Mushlafa]

Originally posted by Bond

Hmm, not that reliable then. You gave the impression he was a Nintendo representative. I mean of course he is going to say Rare is going to develop for other consoles, because that is what his website reported and that is what he is paid to say. Great traffic drawer also.

OOOOOOOORRRRRR maybe rare is going to develop for other consoles :D

Why do you guys care ayway? You still get tha games you want just now there will be games from the same company on other systems ...

[Ric]

I care because... :mad2: It's bollocks :mad2:
I hate it when people post false rubbish, it's not big, it's not clever, it's d!ckheaded.

Also because it's not possible without a huge legal battle concerning copyrights and Rare are Nintendo's number one 2nd party IMO.

And anyway the post I made with a quote from a highly reputible gamecube magazine in the UK which was confirmed by Shadow_Link and C.H proved that this rumour is a complete load of rubbish so :p

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Ric
I care because... :mad2: It's bollocks :mad2:
I hate it when people post false rubbish, it's not big, it's not clever, it's d!ckheaded.

Also because it's not possible without a huge legal battle concerning copyrights and Rare are Nintendo's number one 2nd party IMO.

And anyway the post I made with a quote from a highly reputible gamecube magazine in the UK which was confirmed by Shadow_Link and C.H proved that this rumour is a complete load os rubbish so :P.

You don't know anymore than people who think it's true so stop acting like you're 100% right...

And also, if Rare made games for other consoles, there wouldn't be any legal battles... Because they wouldn't use any Nintendo owned characters or anything... Rare can make their own characters and such, you know...

And while this magazine might be a highly reputible one, I think with IGN being such a big major videogame news site, they could be too, right? That magazine isn't right until it's 100% confirmed or denied by Rare and Nintendo... but do they confirm or dey it? No, they keep dodging the questions... which is suspicious... And just because Shadow Link and CH saw the article thing too, doesn't mean that what the article said was right...

So stop just calling it rubbish and getting all mad about it and accept that them leaving as a Nintendo second party is a possibility, as is it ending up false... and when there is more than 1 possibility, people believe which one they think is true... Based on what they've heard and all that... So quit complaining :p

Basically, until Rare or Nintendo confirm it 100% as true or false, either one is a possibility... so just deal with it :p

[Ric]

I wouldn't be so dead damn sure of it if it weren't printed in the particular magazine in question. They don't print crap or internet rumours (and there's plenty of them) they are as I mentioned highly reputible and a former employee of the magazine works for Rareware so they have a very reliable inside contact.

I am going to stay 99.99% sure this is a load of crap and I am going to defend that opinion.

Anyway what of the other news, like the decent looking Link still existing somewhere. Or this PD secret we are all going to like, which will probably be revealed at Spaceworld this year.

Some interesting little bits of info there.

[Jason1]

Ric, I dont like the idea of Rare going multiplatform any more than you do. But with all the rumors and things...well, I know none of it is confirmed, but its most likely true. They just dont want to make it public yet.

[Jonbo298]

I don't know if this is just me but it seems like Nintendo might be making Retro(Studios) become the next Rare. It seems strange to me that they would hand over one of the biggest franchises(Metroid, duh!) over to them to work on.

[Blix]

Originally posted by Jonbo298
I don't know if this is just me but it seems like Nintendo might be making Retro(Studios) become the next Rare. It seems strange to me that they would hand over one of the biggest franchises(Metroid, duh!) over to them to work on.
I think they're making retro the next EAD. Because they already own Retro(or most of it). But an EAD directed more to action games. Instead of platformers, adventure games and such.

[TheGame]

Originally posted by gekko
- Metroid is roughly 7 hours long. Matt loves Halo, and says Metroid will own it.


Hmm.. imo that isn't even possible... it's like saying right after OoT was released that a game that isn't even in the same genre will "own" it. Just too damn good to be "owned"...

If it's true, then great... but Matt is good for spewing BS and overhyping games.

[gekko]

Originally posted by Bond

Hmm, not that reliable then. You gave the impression he was a Nintendo representative. I mean of course he is going to say Rare is going to develop for other consoles, because that is what his website reported and that is what he is paid to say. Great traffic drawer also.

Not reliable? Umm... come again? You really don't know too much about the way things work do you?

IGNcube editors saw Mario Sunshine before SpaceWorld, months before. They are the ones responsible for having Ice Climbers in Super Smash Bros. Melee. They have seen Thornado footage, which was back in the day. And guess what? They've seen games we don't know are in development.

If you're a developer and want an opinion on your game, you go to people like Matt. They play and review every Gamecube game out on the market. They hear the fans criticism constantly. They know what people like and don't like. They get to play these games when we get an announcement.

Matt is very reliable, and he does this stuff all the time. Tiny little hints of things to come, tells you things they don't report. Matt is reliable, because he's without a doubt, the top Gamecube editor in the business. It's the way things work in the business, you call a PR representetive, they tell you what's going on, a lot of times stuff you can't publish yet because it's not official, like with Peter Main's retirement. Some other stuff isn't official, so they never publish it. Like with Retro's president taking company money to pay for prostitutes and stuff like that, and how Retro's management is entirely responsible for them not getting games done on time, but the rest of the team is actually quite talented.

Whether all this stuff actually happens or not in not known. Nothing is official, games get canceled and changed, plans change. But he's not pulling stuff out of his ass here, it's what he has heard, or part of what he has heard.

[Mushlafa]

Anyone else thing that 7 hours is really short?

[gekko]

Originally posted by TheGame


Hmm.. imo that isn't even possible... it's like saying right after OoT was released that a game that isn't even in the same genre will "own" it. Just too damn good to be "owned"...

If it's true, then great... but Matt is good for spewing BS and overhyping games.

They're similar enough. They're both FPS in my world, adventure game or not. Not like puzzle vs. fighting here, they are similar.

And he has played for at least 45 minutes, so his opinion is respectable, whether we agree with it once it's out or not. It's his opinion on the game, not a fact like Mr. Banana ownz j00! :banana:

[gekko]

Originally posted by Mushlafa
Anyone else thing that 7 hours is really short?

For this type of game? Hell no. Super Metroid was only like 7 hours. Quake only takes a couple.

It won't be long by any means, but I don't think it'll be that short. It's a FPS with some adventure aspects, it's not supposed to take 60 hours.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Mushlafa
Anyone else thing that 7 hours is really short?

Think of a lot of other first person shooters... like Goldeneye... it doesn't take very long to beat at all... but then the big fun of it is playing missions over and over for the fun of it or to get cheats and such... and on multiple difficulty levels... and then of course the multiplayer... And.... some other stuff :p

Maybe Metroid will be like that... *shrugs*

[Mushlafa]

Originally posted by DeathsHand


Think of a lot of other first person shooters... like Goldeneye... it doesn't take very long to beat at all... but then the big fun of it is playing missions over and over for the fun of it or to get cheats and such... and on multiple difficulty levels... and then of course the multiplayer... And.... some other stuff :p

Maybe Metroid will be like that... *shrugs*

Actually i think it was mainly the multiplayer ;) and i thought metroid isnt gonna have that or have i been under a rock? :D

[TheGame]

Metroid isn't a first person shooter is it???

I thought itwas a first person adventure... that means it can't be like Goldeneye. :unsure:

if it is like goldeneye, and it is 7 hours (if acumulated time is based off of cheat times) this is a pretty long game... but if it's a FPA like methinks, 7 hours may not be long.

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Mushlafa


Actually i think it was mainly the multiplayer ;) and i thought metroid isnt gonna have that or have i been under a rock? :D

I havn't been paying close attention to metroid, so don't bug me about it if I get some info wrong :p

And for most people goldeneye may have been the multiplayer, but I rarely got a chance to play it and I still had a ton of fun playing the same levels over and over again and just screw around with invincibility, all weapons, and infinite ammo... and some of the other stuff too... :D

But still, what gekko said... even if it doesn't have multiplayer, metroid games have never been all that long in the first place...

even though the only other metroid game I've played was Super Metroid... and I didn't beat it... :sneaky:

[Revival]

7 hours? That's kinda a long time if you play it at once, but not really.

:banana:

[Xantar]

Well, the original Metroid can be beaten in less than two and a half hours, remember. Nobody managed that the first time around, of course, but it's possible. I want to know if that 7 hours number means 7 hours the first time through (in which case it easily outlasts the other games) or if it's more like the 2.5 hours time for the other games.

In any case, there will probably be lots of power ups and missiles and the like to pick up, so you can always play the game through again to pick them up. That's the adventure aspect of the game, I suppose.

[DeathsHand]

Usually when people release about how long it will take most people to beat the game, they mean the first time through... like RE will take most people around 10 hours to beat the first time through... but I've beaten it in 2 hours and 8 minutes, and gekko's beaten it in just under 2 hours :p

[Angrist]

I beat Super Metroid the first time in about 9 hours. I took my time. The second time I beat it in 2.5 hours. :drool:

But if 7 hours is the time that it takes to beat the game as fast as possible, it's great. If it's the first playtime, it's poor...

When is it going to be released again??

What are you talking about Shooter? ;)

[DeathsHand]

Originally posted by Angrist
I beated Super Metroid the first time in about 9 hours. I took my time. The second time I beated it in 2.5 hours. :drool:

But if 7 hours is the time that it takes to beat the game as fast as possible, it's great. If it's the first playtime, it's poor...

When is it going to be released again??

Was the 9 hours for super metroid good? Cuz how can 2 hours make the difference between good and poor? :D

[Angrist]

Well, Super Metroid WAS a short game. This one would be even shorter. :unsure:

[Revival]

Pssst.. Angrist: Beated isn't a word, it's beat. Just a little correction for future reference :sneaky:

[gekko]

This is from Fran Mirabella III. If you don't know, he's IGN editor #2. Also ran Dolphin Cove back in the day, way back in the day.

I understand that my cohort in crime Matt Casamassina has reportedly noted that we heard Metroid Prime is around 7 hours.

That's true, but the details are quite sketchy and anything but confirmed. I see he stated it rather matter-of-factly, but that's definitley not the case.

We don't know Metroid Prime's game length, and I spoke to someone on the showfloor who expected it to definitely be longer than that.

Anyhow, if you want my guess Metroid Prime will be 15-20 hours the first time through. But, it can no doubt be beaten in 5 hours or shorter.

This is Metroid. It's never been a 40 hour game -- doesn't need to be. If you want to whine about that, then you may want to reconsider you interest in the franchise.

The first level alone is bound to take most people 30 minutes if you spend time scanning everything. Continue at that pace throughout the entire game, and I imagine Metroid Prime will be very lengthy. And, so as to preempt any other negative comments, no I do not think Metroid Prime will be broken up into levels. The first level, escaping, is always set apart from the rest. Hopefully all loading will take place at save points or map uploads, making for a seamless experience.

So, stop worrying. Wise up. Or I'll think your brain power depleted by a Metroid.

[Xantar]

Yeah, that sounds pretty reasonable. And you'll definitely want to play this game twice because the first time through, you won't beat it in a very short period of time. The next few times through, you'll be able to beat Metroid Prime in under 5 hours (or whatever the magic time is) and then you'll see Samus Aran in her underwear.

I know that's very important to some of you gamers. :stud:

Note: Everything above is a prediction only

[BlueFire]

Wow, is that really you, Xantar? :rolleyes:


;)

[Ric]

Look what the alcohol and girls at fingersman's party have done to him.

Either that or it's because he is at home now and didn't want to say stuff like that when he was at college incase he got caught.

[Drunk Hobbit]

I dunno how realiable Fran is. His N-Sider site screws up information and leave things out too often to count.

[gekko]

He doesn't really do anything for N-Sider.

He left Dolphin Cove to go do his own site. Before it launched, IGN was hiring, and he applied. Course, he was a freelance writer for them for some time, so he had an advantage.

Basically, N-Sider is like the site he was going to run, till things changed.