Why I Love Bristol Palin

[Bond]

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Reading this makes me feel a bit better about voting for Obama.

[Xantar]

Just don't love Bristol too much.

*dodges tomatoes and jumps into trash can*

[Typhoid]

I wish everyone [media] would stop talking about the Palin family as a whole.

[Professor S]

I wish everyone [media] would stop talking about the Palin family as a whole.

Agreed.

[Jason1]

Yea no shit right? Nobody gives a crap about anything do to with that family. I hope Palin runs for President and wins the Primary, because then Obama would be a sure thing to win the election in 2012.

[Professor S]

Yea no shit right? Nobody gives a crap about anything do to with that family. I hope Palin runs for President and wins the Primary, because then Obama would be a sure thing to win the election in 2012.

Can't disagree with your assessment of Palin's chances. Her likability ratings are way too low. I think Romney is out as well, because of his healthcare plan and how much people do not like what the government has done regarding that subject.

It will be an interesting race for the Rep ticket in 2012.

[Neo]

Huckabee is the only one who stands a chance.

[Bond]

My current prediction for the Republican ticket is Perry / Jindal.

[TheGame]

I'm glad the drama is still 2 years away.

[Professor S]

My current prediction for the Republican ticket is Perry / Jindal.

I was thinking Perry just today and I know Jindal will run. Thune has an outside chance. I'd love to see Paul Ryan somewhere on a ticket, just to watch him dissect someone in a debate, but I think he's still biding his time. That and the populist Republicans fear the bluntness of his unapologetic fiscal conservatism.

Huckabee attracts the bible belt, and he's incredibly likeable, but as we saw in the last primary the bible belt alone will not get you on the ticket. He just isn;t strong enough on the issues. If Obama is going to be defeated, it will be by someone with a mastery of the subject matter who can pull apart Pres. Obama's silver tongued delivery.

[Vampyr]

I hope people remember Jindal's idiotic response he gave a year or two ago.

That guy just aggravates me.

If only Schwarzenegger could run, there's a Republican I could vote for. :)

[Professor S]

I hope people remember Jindal's idiotic response he gave a year or two ago.

That guy just aggravates me.

If only Schwarzenegger could run, there's a Republican I could vote for. :)

That response is probably the one thing holding him back, but his governance during the BP oil crisis ( and Katrina) will likely be his meal ticket for a run at office. If there is one thing Jindal has shown, it is the ability to govern, and that's what I'm mainly concerned with. In any case, Jindal will likely only get a VP nod at most.

I also forgot about Chris Christie. He has an outside chance, if only because he is still first term and will likely not run at all (although he has started a diet, and to me that says presidential run all over it). If he were second term I think he would be an automatic candidate.

[manasecret]

For the love of the gods, I hope Perry doesn't run. History shows, he has a knack for being at the right place at the right time and winning. History also shows he has a knack for being a shitty governor.

That said, I don't think anyone is ready to vote another faux cowboy in to the Oval Office.

For my time in Louisiana, I didn't grow any general distaste for Jindal, but I don't remember his response speech Vampyr mentioned except that he fucked it up. Any way, my feeling is that he's probably a good bet at a front runner since he's likeable.

[Neo]

Oh yeah I forgot about Perry, he's the only other one with a chance.

[Professor S]

Oh yeah I forgot about Perry, he's the only other one with a chance.

Why do you think Perry and Huckabee have the best chance? To my knowledge, their style of politics resemble the "compassionate conservative" policies of George W. Bush. I'm thinking people are pretty much fed up with that.

[Typhoid]

Why do you think Perry and Huckabee have the best chance? To my knowledge, their style of politics resemble the "compassionate conservative" policies of George W. Bush. I'm thinking people are pretty much fed up with that.

Maybe it's the old Republican motto of "If at first you don't succeed, try the exact same thing."

[Professor S]

Maybe it's the old Republican motto of "If at first you don't succeed, try the exact same thing."

The greatest recent success stories from Republicans have been on the fiscal conservative side, so I doubt your analysis has much merit other than parroting Democrat talking points. Also, the topic at hand was "who could win", not who would the party throw their weight behind, so partisan "mottos" have little to do with this topic.

If Republicans want to win this fall, and in 2012, they need to argue numbers. Facts are stubborn things, and independents will follow a logical, reasoned arguments, and frank discussion that doesn't talk down to their constituency. Not ideology, as the far left and right follow. This is why Chris Christie has been a success and why Paul Ryan is the most feared man by the Adminstration, especially after his performance during the healthcare summit.

[Typhoid]

The greatest recent success stories from Republicans have been on the fiscal conservative side, so I doubt your analysis has much merit other than parroting Democrat talking points.

Actually, it was 100% a joke.

[Neo]

Why do you think Perry and Huckabee have the best chance?

Because I'm a political psychic. When I saw Obama on the cover of Time Magazine, I knew he would be president one day. What more evidence of my powers do you need?

[Professor S]

Actually, it was 100% a joke.

Typh, all jokes are based in truth. If there is no perceived truth in the joke, even if the recognition is in absurdly running away from a known truth (EX. Always Sunny) it is not funny. You found it funny, therefore you must believe there is truth in the statement.

This is why The Daily Show tends to be much funnier to liberals than conservatives. Liberals see truth in their jokes (hence they clap and cheer as much as laugh), therefore they find it funny, while conservatives do not see truth in many of their jokes, and do not find the show all that funny.

[Typhoid]

Actually, no - it was just a joke.
I was high on codeine [as I am much of the day, every day - for the past 5 months], and felt like making a post.

And being that I just watched Jon Stewart before I posted, it's no surprise that I recalled something he said, and posted it here.

Now, as for why I found it funny - it's not because I think it's 'true', nor because I agree with it.

In my mind it's funny because I was looking at it from the standpoint of the motto itself. "If at first you don't succeed...try the exact same thing."
It's such a ridiculous idea for a motto, that I thoroughly enjoyed it on it's own. Much like one from the Simpsons of "If at first you don't succeed, give up." I don't like that because it's knocking the person he's saying it to, just the fact it's a horrible outlook.

[Professor S]

Typh, its not a big deal, but the truth is you found it funny because you sympathize with its association with the Republican party. You saw the underlying truth that the joke poked fun at, and therefore it is humorous, making it a JOKE. If you did not recognize the underlying truth, you would not find the punchline funny. This is how humor works, particularly political humor.

I'm not sure why you're so adamant about this. You obviously lean to the left. Its not like you're letting the cat out of the bag by admitting it.

[Typhoid]

Typh, its not a big deal, but the truth is you found it funny because you sympathize with its association with the Republican party. You saw the underlying truth that the joke poked fun at, and therefore it is humorous, making it a JOKE.

As I said:
In my mind it's funny because I was looking at it from the standpoint of the motto itself.

If this thread was about Democrats, I would have posted "It's like that old Democratic motto; if at first you don't succeed...try the exact same thing."

Because I think the motto in itself is ridiculous. Nothing to do with anything other than the motto. Not a single thing. Why do I find it funny? I don't know - because it's so dumb. Do I associate it with Republicans? No. I don't associate it with anything specific. I said it, because it fit. Not because the word "Republican" reminded me of it.

I'm not sure why you're so adamant about this. You obviously lean to the left. Its not like you're letting the cat out of the bag by admitting it.

Because I specifically hate when people assume one thing about me/my intentions when it's entirely false. Especially when people try to tell me [as you did] why I thought what I thought, when what they're saying I'm thinking isn't the case at all.

And you're absolutely right, it's not a big deal. I just excessively dislike when people try to tell me what my reasons were when they're not correct, or when people assume my reasoning for saying something when that, too - isn't correct. Ask Dylflon.

[Professor S]

I never said anything about your intentions. I posted a fact about humor. Your intentions have nothing to do with it. That you found the joke funny the revelatory in itself.

As for finding the joke funny regardless of context, sorry, don't buy it. If you want to be bugged by my disbelief, so be it. I'd rather be honest than polite.

[Typhoid]

I never said anything about your intentions.

When I said intentions, I meant more of a "I don't like being told what I think", such as:

but the truth is you found it funny because you sympathize with its association with the Republican party

You found it funny, therefore you must believe there is truth in the statement.

I don't believe either of these statements because A) I don't, and B) I don't have to believe a joke is true to find it funny.

Let's find an example, here.

I quite like the joke:

Q: Why did the blonde become a vet?
A: She wanted to work with kids.

Now, do I believe all blondes [or any, for that matter] confuse children with animals, or pediatrics with vets? No. I do not believe it. However, I find it humourous - not because it is about a blonde, or has anything to do with a blonde, rather the fact that it's insinuating someone is that dumb. Now, me finding it funny has nothing to do with the colour of someones hair. Hell, it could be a "Your mommas so dumb" joke, and I'd still like it - and not because it insults your mother.

I am not sympathizing with the subject in the joke, rather just enjoying the punchline. It's how I view life, my friend.

[Professor S]

Typh, you're missing the point. Its doesn't matter what you think you're intentions were. Humor is a litmus test of what you find truthful. That is why I said your reaction to the joke, and retelling of it, is revelatory beyond your objections.

And your example joke, is funny because it plays on the perceived "truth" that blondes are dumb. This is not unlike Polish jokes, that were born of Nazi propogandists who wanted to dehumanize Polish people by relaying a false truth.

But again, this is really a very small thing, and I'm not sure why you are so defensive about something so obvious. I'll leave it at that.

[Typhoid]

I secretly hate Republicans and only make jokes with the word "Republican" in them so I can laugh at how dumb Republicans are.

Two Republicans jump off a building. Who wins? Society.

Why don't the Republicans have a good Olympic team? Because every Republican that can run, swim, and jump is already in the US.


So two Republicans are in an oven. One Republican says to the other "Hey, is it hot in here?" The other Republican says "Holy shit! A talking Republican!"

How do you kill 100 flies at once? Hit a Republican in the face with a frying pan.

How do you find out who the fastest Republican is? Roll a dime down a hill.

A Republican walks into a bar and says "Hey, where is the bar tender?"

What do Republicans eat for breakfast?
Oakmeal.

Why was the Republican happy?
Everything was Eggcellent.

Why didn't the Republican leave nursery school?
She wanted to become a nurse!

What is a Republicans favourite instrument?
A Tuba Toothpaste.

Why does a Republican coop only have 2 doors?
If it had four, it would be a Republican Sedan!

What do you say when a Republican runs away?
Dog-Gone!

[Professor S]

So two Republicans are in an oven. One Republican says to the other "Hey, is it hot in here?" The other Republican says "Holy shit! A talking Republican!

I'll have to remember that one, LOL! :lolz:

[TheGame]

I secretly hate Republicans and only make jokes with the word "Republican" in them so I can laugh at how dumb Republicans are.

Two Republicans jump off a building. Who wins? Society.

Why don't the Republicans have a good Olympic team? Because every Republican that can run, swim, and jump is already in the US.


So two Republicans are in an oven. One Republican says to the other "Hey, is it hot in here?" The other Republican says "Holy shit! A talking Republican!"

How do you kill 100 flies at once? Hit a Republican in the face with a frying pan.

How do you find out who the fastest Republican is? Roll a dime down a hill.

A Republican walks into a bar and says "Hey, where is the bar tender?"

What do Republicans eat for breakfast?
Oakmeal.

Why was the Republican happy?
Everything was Eggcellent.

Why didn't the Republican leave nursery school?
She wanted to become a nurse!

What is a Republicans favourite instrument?
A Tuba Toothpaste.

Why does a Republican coop only have 2 doors?
If it had four, it would be a Republican Sedan!

What do you say when a Republican runs away?
Dog-Gone!

Ok this is the most awesome post I read in a long time.

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And yes I find it funny because I find truth to these jokes... in case anyone was wondering

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No I don't, but it's still funny :D