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Fox 6

07-06-2010, 11:04 PM

Some are saying it is better than The Dark Knight. But without Batman as source material will it perform as well? Are you going to check it out? It looks good, the plot seems very interesting.

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Vampyr

07-06-2010, 11:21 PM

Will definitely be watching this...Chris Nolan is my favorite director. He's done both Batman movies, Memento, and The Prestige.

Counting on this being movie of the year material.

BreakABone

07-06-2010, 11:48 PM

My second most anticipated movie this summer.

Can't wait.

As for if it will do as well as Batman, it will be lucky to do half the business, which is still good business.

The Germanator

07-07-2010, 12:02 AM

Definitely getting excited for this. I wasn't exactly sure after seeing the preview, but the early reviews seem to indicate that it's great, so I'll surely see it now.

Typhoid

07-07-2010, 03:20 AM

I know nothing about this movie [and I don't want to know before I see it], but I really want to go see it in theatres. So I hope some of my friends want to go, too.

Professor S

07-07-2010, 08:13 AM

Is it in 3D IMAX? If its not in 3D IMAX Chris Nolan can go %$&@ himself... ;)

Angrist

07-07-2010, 12:04 PM

That's a great way to kill a movie: hyping it as the best ever.

Looks pretty cool though. :)

Teuthida

07-07-2010, 12:48 PM

Looking forward to it. Much prefer Nolan's non-Batman movies.

Fox 6

07-15-2010, 02:22 AM

Comes out this Friday, going to be epic

Professor S

07-15-2010, 09:44 AM

I've become a huge fan of Nolan's work. I always knew he had potential, with very good movies like Memento, The Prestige and Batman Begins (flawed but very good). It wasn't until The Dark Knight that I think Nolan really put everything together. The Dark Knight is one of those movies that informs me of what movie reviewers to listen to. In my mind, that movie was close to perfect (if it had flaws, the good parts made me completely forget them, which is about a close to perfect as anyone will ever get).

When I read movie reviews from people who vehemently disliked the movie, I knew I didn't have to pay attention to that reviewer anymore because their view of film simply does not click with my tastes.

If you look at the reviews, you'll find that the people that disliked The Dark Knight, also almost universally dislike Inception, so in effect their negative review lets me know I'll LOVE Inception. For the record, I find that David Edelstein's taste in film is the polar opposite of mine, and in objective analysis I don't even believe he is a very good critic, just a good writer. I read him like I view a photo negative.

Angrist

07-15-2010, 09:53 AM

After 1 hour of The Dark Knight, I thought "I have to sit through 2 more hours of this? :("
So I don't really get what the fuzz was about.

Teuthida

07-15-2010, 11:50 AM

Have to agree. It was a pretty average action movie that just happened to have a cool villain and a growling dude dressed up like a bat. Was good for a superhero movie though since they tend to suck.

Professor S

07-15-2010, 04:19 PM

If my theory holds true, then I believe that I probably don't enjoy the same kinds of movies that both of you enjoy. I call it "The Dark Knight Demarcation".

Out of curiosity, what are your favorite movies?

Teuthida

07-15-2010, 05:27 PM

Hard to say since I don't rewatch or own any movies. Hmm, off the top of my head I guess Pulp Fiction, The Machinist, American Psycho, The Matrix, Infernal Affairs (what The Departed is based off of), Save The Green Planet, Mind Game. Oh and um, Happy Gilmore...for some reason that's the only movie I can watch over and over again.

Not a huge fan of standard action movies unless there's something really unique about them or they make you think. And I hold Batman to a higher standard. Wish there was some actual detecting going on instead of Bond-like gadgets and lots of explosions. And Bale's Batman was just sooo bad. And not bad like powerglove bad either.

Acebot44

07-16-2010, 06:14 AM

Just came back from the midnight screening.....

All I have to say is HOLY SHIT, this movie ravaged me, and in an oh sooooo good way.

Teuth, not like anything I've ever seen before. Me thinks you'll enjoy it.

Professor S

07-16-2010, 08:10 AM

Not a huge fan of standard action movies unless there's something really unique about them or they make you think. And I hold Batman to a higher standard. Wish there was some actual detecting going on instead of Bond-like gadgets and lots of explosions. And Bale's Batman was just sooo bad. And not bad like powerglove bad either.

In my mind The Dark Knight wasn't really about Batman, but instead it was study on the natures of "good" and "evil", which is really what all comic books boil down to. Instead of putting the study into a light-hearted pseudo-reality/fantasy environment... he put it in Chicago and used modern themes (like the threat of terrorism) to tell the story, and then examined how far would we have to go to stop it, perhaps making the argument that you couldn't stop it because the tool Batman used to win is probably the only truly unbelievable part of the movie.

This is what made the movie arresting for me. The illustrated, in very stark terms, that if someone truly wanted to create chaos with no real motivation other than to see what happens, there would be almost no way to stop them. That we literally all live at the mercy, reason, and kindness of those around us.

But I will agree, if you went into that movie looking for a character driven story, you would be sorely disappointed. IMO Nolan used the character development from the first film as a vehicle to allow himself to spend time n the plot and message of the second. Also, not unlike Kubrick, I think Nolan tends to treat his characters as means to an end (vessels to whom you insert yourself), and that end is the story/message. Scorsese has been movie in this direction lately, too (ever since Kubrick's death, I think) And like Kubrick, I think Nolan will remain a divisive director for the entirety of his career.

Angrist

07-16-2010, 01:39 PM

Some of my favorite movies:
Garden State, Amélie, Im Juli, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
Or if you want to hear action:
Jurassic Park, Aliens, Hero, I,Robot.

I guess I'll watch Inception in cinemas.

DarkMaster

07-16-2010, 09:55 PM

This movie was ridiculously good. Like good to the point of disbelief, as in, "how the hell could it be this good?". I realize that's probably hyping it too much, but I don't really care. I saw it at midnight despite working at 7am in the morning, and it was fucking worth it, let me tell you. Being in a state of incredibly tired delusion really enhanced the experience too, I thought, seeing as it's a movie about dreams.

It is highly, highly entertaining and incredibly clever and intellectual. Go see it this weekend, I can't imagine anyone regretting it.

Fox 6

07-16-2010, 10:01 PM

damn you DM, now you have my all giddy.

Dyne

07-16-2010, 10:33 PM

Fuck, The Prestige was tops for me. Dark Knight almost topped it, but it didn't.

If this is better than The Prestige, then.. well, I don't know what I'd do with myself. Probably play with myself a lot and think about Christopher Nolan.

The Germanator

07-16-2010, 10:37 PM

I thought about seeing this today, but I had to run too many errands before tour to watch a 2.5 hour movie...Maybe we'll have an off day without too much driving so I'll be able to check it out.

Vampyr

07-16-2010, 10:42 PM

I'm going to see it Sunday, can't wait.

I keep telling myself it's going to suck, just so it will be better when I see it.

TheSlyMoogle

07-17-2010, 01:51 AM

Saw this tonight.

Holy Shit.

Just... Wow.

I think it's the best movie of the last 5 years honestly. This is the first time in a long string of shitty shitty blockbuster films that I've walked out of the theater thinking "Wow, I thoroughly enjoyed the absolute fuck out of that movie"

I went into this movie thinking "Well... It is a Leo movie so that means it'll probably be complete and utter ass eventually"

Wrong.

On so many levels.

I've never seen him act so well that I can think of.

WHAT AN AMAZING FUCKING MOVIE.

GO SEE IT NOW.

PS:

The last two times I came close to feeling like this about a movie in the past 5 years was...

Zombieland

and

The Dark Knight.

ZebraRampage

07-17-2010, 11:33 PM

This movie was absolutely great! I agree with Moogle that it was the best movie out for a long time. When the movie was over my girlfriend and I were just out of it. Our brains were fried for quite a while from how intense and involved everything got. It became rather stressful, but in a good way. This movie really hooks you in. Definitely see it!

Fox 6

07-18-2010, 10:58 AM

Seeing this today, cannot wait.

Dylflon

07-18-2010, 04:24 PM

May go tonight if I finish my essay but will probably have to wait until next weekend.

Bond

07-18-2010, 04:45 PM

That was epic.

Vampyr

07-18-2010, 06:26 PM

Wow.

What an amazing movie. I can't really single out a part that was my favorite, the entire thing was spectacular.

Xantar

07-18-2010, 07:08 PM

So I just saw it. I'll discuss it in depth later, but I just want to say this:

During the ending, I thought to myself, "Uh-oh. Chris Nolan is going to cut away, isn't he? He's going to do it. He'll cut away any second now and we won't see...yep. Damn you, Christopher Nolan!!"

Also, here's my pithy summary of the two Batman movies:

Batman Begins is a Batman movie that happens to be directed by Christopher Nolan. The Dark Knight is a Christopher Nolan movie that happens to have Batman.

Fox 6

07-18-2010, 09:22 PM

Really great film. Some of the most amazing visuals I've seen in a movie.

Vampyr

07-19-2010, 03:51 PM

I think I'm going to have to go see this again. Can't stop thinking about it.

v1zzy

07-19-2010, 05:11 PM

TheSlyMoogle

07-19-2010, 07:07 PM

No one mentions that baller fight scene in the hotel hallway?

No grav fight what?

Combine 017

07-19-2010, 07:56 PM

No one mentions that baller fight scene in the hotel hallway?

No grav fight what?

Thanks for ruining part of the movie for me moogle.

Fox 6

07-19-2010, 11:05 PM

No one mentions that baller fight scene in the hotel hallway?

No grav fight what?

That was one of my favourite parts, so good.

Im seeing this again tomorrow night. Hopefully Ill be able to catch anything i missed.

Fox 6

07-20-2010, 12:43 AM

This is a pretty big spoiler, so dont look at it if you havent seen the flick. Heres a helpful guide to understanding the big Inception finale.

****SPOILERS BEYOND LINK****
http://itthing.com/the-5-levels-of-inception
****SPOILERS BEYOND LINK****

ZebraRampage

07-23-2010, 05:34 PM

BreakABone

07-24-2010, 05:50 PM

http://nerdsontherocks.com/bar-banter-inception

Hope you folks don't mind, but borrowed some quotes from this thread to right an informal "review" on the site.

DarkMaster

07-25-2010, 11:43 AM

I saw it again. I never see movies in the theater twice... the only other time was for the Dark Knight. My heart was still pounding during the intense parts, even though I knew what was going to happen. Such a freaking good film.

BreakABone

07-25-2010, 04:51 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwOOhT6BNFk

I'll be a monkey's uncle..

He actually drove a train through downtown LA. :lolz:

ridkidjory

07-25-2010, 06:24 PM

THIS MOVIE IS FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC!! GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GO SEE IT NOW!!!!

Vampyr

08-01-2010, 10:46 AM

I saw it a second time last night.

* SPOILER ALERT*

I'm pretty sure that he -wasn't- dreaming there at the end. During every dream sequence he was wearing his wedding band. Some people on the internet have been saying that it "clearly shows his hand" at the end, in his house...but that's his right hand, and he wore his ring on his left. However, it briefly showed his left hand on the plane, and I don't -think- there was a wedding ring on it.

However, I did notice that when they first visit the chemist, and he tests the sedative on him, he wakes up kind of freaked out, and goes into the bathroom. He starts to spin his totem, but then (Saito I think) walks in, and he knocks it on the floor. Unless I missed something, he never spins it again throughout the movie until the very end, in his house, and we never see what happens at that point.

In that case, it could be that the rest of the movie after him being sedated at the chemist's is a dream.

Fox 6

08-01-2010, 11:40 AM

I saw it a second time as well. Still just as enjoyable as the first time.

Vampyr

08-01-2010, 12:45 PM

Interesting easter egg in the music:

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Acebot44

08-01-2010, 04:02 PM

Short prequel comic for Inception that shows exactly what Cobb and Arthur are after from Saito at the beginning of the movie.

http://inceptionmovie.warnerbros.com/thecoboljob/

Bube

08-03-2010, 11:37 AM

I loved how "dreamy" it felt. Great movie.

Xantar

08-03-2010, 09:43 PM

Here's my take:

The ending is real. Whenever they are in a dream sequence, the top never so much as wobbles. At the end of the movie, it clearly wobbles. But by cutting it off just before the top falls, Chris Nolan is reminding us that the movie isn't real. Every quality they ascribe to dreams can also describe the movie.

Bube

08-04-2010, 06:19 PM

I read an article about the movie somewhere on the web, and I really liked what it said.

The guy says that it fades away because Cobb doesn't care (he walks away) if he's in a dream or not anymore. The whole movie is about him going through tons of stuff just to get back to his kids. And in the end, he finds them - whether or not he's in a dream, he accepts the situation for what it is.

The message in this is that life is what you make of it (or something like that).

Angrist

08-14-2010, 03:04 PM

I finally saw this, last night with my brother.

Great movie, but still a bit overhyped. Definately worth watching a couple of more times (but just not too soon).

Not sure if anyone has said this yet, but wasn't it suspicious that his kids hadn't aged a bit? And how he found them again, in the same spot as where he left them... Suspicious. But I agree with Bube and that article. Cobb chose that reality to be real for him. In the end it's just a matter of choice.

TheSlyMoogle

08-14-2010, 06:30 PM

Angrist

08-15-2010, 10:27 AM

True. Time passed slower than it seemed, because of the dream time.
But then there's still the way how he met them again.

Fox 6

08-15-2010, 12:02 PM

Anyone else find themselves asking why didn't Michael Caine just fly the kids out to Paris to see Cobb?

Dylflon

08-15-2010, 11:16 PM

Anyone else find themselves asking why didn't Michael Caine just fly the kids out to Paris to see Cobb?

Cobb is laying low since people want to kill him.

Bringing his kids out would put them in danger.

Fox 6

08-16-2010, 02:53 AM

Cobb is laying low since people want to kill him.

Bringing his kids out would put them in danger.

Its only after he failed Kobol Engineering job are people after him, he could have easily done it before.

Angrist

08-16-2010, 07:29 AM

Well, he might be a wanted man in the USA. The FBI might be looking for them internationally... ?

Fox 6

08-16-2010, 10:07 AM

Well, he might be a wanted man in the USA. The FBI might be looking for them internationally... ?

Michael Caine mentions that, and Cobb says that extradition laws in France are very hazy and complicated.

Angrist

08-17-2010, 07:12 AM

So is it a minor detail/plothole, or is it a hint that it's all a dream?

The Germanator

08-21-2010, 10:20 PM

Finally got around to seeing this. I can't say I'm feeling "mind-blown" crazy about the film, but it really is pretty well done and imaginative. Parts of the concept and lingo made me laugh out loud and took me out of it a bit, but that was probably my only complaint. It certainly gives you a lot to think about during and after.

Angrist

08-22-2010, 04:04 AM

I liked the movie, but it's not the best movie ever, like everybody said a while back. For the best movie ever, it's incredibly disappointing.

BreakABone

10-14-2010, 12:09 PM

Movie is out on Blu-Ray/DVD on Dec 7th.

Angrist

10-14-2010, 04:04 PM

I'd rather go watch Avatar in 3D cinemas again.

Teuthida

11-20-2010, 12:32 AM

Finally saw it. Based on all the articles and such littering the interwebs offering explanations to what happened I was expecting it to be a huge mindfuck. All I knew about the movie going in was that it had something to do with dreams. Turned out to be surprisingly straight forward. Still very enjoyable. I much prefer Nolan's non-bat movies.

The PASIV machine bothers me though. At no point do they explain how it allows people to share dreams. You're basically just injected with the drug to enter a controlled dream state; just connected to it by a tube in your arm. How does that allow everyone to interact with each other in the dream? A little tiny suction cup thingy on their temple is all I'm asking for.