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TheSlyMoogle
03-19-2010, 07:30 PM
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Top 10 Reasons this movie will suck ass:

10. Topher Grace
09. Topher Grace
08. Topher Grace
07. Topher Grace
06. Topher Grace
05. Topher Grace
04. Topher Grace
03. Topher Grace
02. Topher Grace
01. Topher Grace

Any Questions?

Angrist
03-20-2010, 04:33 AM
If they can't even make the trailer look cool, how can the movie be any good?

KillerGremlin
03-20-2010, 01:49 PM
Predator was a horror movie...oh sure, it had Schwarzenegger-bad-assness and tons of action, but when you strip the movie to its core it was horror. Rodriguez has shown some affinity to be able to make a horror movie, but I can say (based on cast alone) that I'm not going to get hyped up for this film.

Hopefully it won't suck, but Adrian Brody in Predator....:confused:

Typhoid
03-20-2010, 02:01 PM
I love terrible movies - so I'll probably really love this.

Fox 6
03-20-2010, 02:06 PM
Predator was a horror movie...oh sure, it had Schwarzenegger-bad-assness and tons of action, but when you strip the movie to its core it was horror. Rodriguez has shown some affinity to be able to make a horror movie, but I can say (based on cast alone) that I'm not going to get hyped up for this film.

Hopefully it won't suck, but Adrian Brody in Predator....:confused:

There is a recession, people need work.

TheSlyMoogle
03-20-2010, 05:46 PM
Srsly? I'm ok with Brody, but fucking TOPHER GRACE?! He's the god damn red haired stoner kid from that 70's show. Seriously.

Typhoid
03-20-2010, 07:34 PM
John, you're just reverting back to an angsty teenager who hates and complains about everything.

So much hate.

"Oh, I don't like Final Fantasy because it's 30+ hours long. I don't like the music because I have a vendetta against Leona Lewis. I don't like Topher Grace because he's been typecast. I like eeeeevery boooy.".

TheSlyMoogle
03-21-2010, 02:56 PM
John, you're just reverting back to an angsty teenager who hates and complains about everything.

So much hate.

"Oh, I don't like Final Fantasy because it's 30+ hours long. I don't like the music because I have a vendetta against Leona Lewis. I don't like Topher Grace because he's been typecast. I like eeeeevery boooy.".

I don't like Topher Grace because he ruined Spiderman 3 and the awesomeness that was Venom.

Disagree, please.

Typhoid
03-21-2010, 03:05 PM
I do disagree.
He only ruined it for us because we're not 9 year old kids who are relatively new to the franchise considering they didn't grow up with the old cartoons of video games.

It's like Star Wars syndrome. The reason most people think the first 3 sucks is because they're older, and watched them as a kid, or at least a younger age - and had such strong feelings for it, that now that they're older nothing can compare to how awesome it was as a kid.

Just like how kids love the first 3, but dislike the last 3 because they find them boring.


I don't think Topher Grace ruined Venom, or that movie.
I think the movie destroyed itself, and to put the failure on one person is ridiculous.
I think Topher did a good job of being Eddie Brock. A very good job.
Venom also didn't cease to be awesome just because he was played by Topher Grace. Venom was still awesome.

BreakABone
03-21-2010, 03:41 PM
Oh I wanna disagree with Moogle as well.

Like Typhoid said, you can not point to a singular character that ruined the movie, hell in my estimation you could make a shorter list of what actually worked in the movie.

And its odd to hold a grudge against someone for one role in one movie, that was bad with or without him.

The simple fact as I pointed out, the director did not like the character of Venom (and personally can't blame him) and was forced to include him in the movie.

With that said, I thought Topher did okay with what he was given.

Also, if you think that's bad, you don't wanna see what happens with Venom in the comics.

Swan
03-21-2010, 04:44 PM
I will probably end up seeing this. Violence is always fun.

I hope it is as violent as the more recent AVP

Teuthida
03-21-2010, 07:03 PM
Also, if you think that's bad, you don't wanna see what happens with Venom in the comics.

Depends on if he likes the symbiote or Brock more. I rather like what they've done with Brock.

TheSlyMoogle
03-21-2010, 08:05 PM
The simple fact as I pointed out, the director did not like the character of Venom (and personally can't blame him) and was forced to include him in the movie.

How can you not like venom? Ugh.

BreakABone
03-21-2010, 08:34 PM
How can you not like venom? Ugh.

Its not that I dislike Venom, he is cool and everything, but really there is no depth to him.

There's really no substance behind the character.

It has gotten a little better in recent times with a focus on Eddie Brock, but even that is iffy at the moment.

And how would you base a movie around him?

Fox 6
03-21-2010, 09:03 PM
And how would you base a movie around him?

Earl they've based movies of toys, board games (monopoly to come out later this year, and its a strait Jumanji rip off), video games, and other very stupid things.

Swan
03-21-2010, 11:44 PM
Earl they've based movies of toys, board games (monopoly to come out later this year, and its a strait Jumanji rip off), video games, and other very stupid things.

Doesn't mean that they should have been made. OR if you could really call some of them movies.

Fox 6
03-22-2010, 01:27 AM
Doesn't mean that they should have been made. OR if you could really call some of them movies.

I wasn't saying they should. The point of those movies I don't care about. The point is Earl was asking how can you even make a Venom movie, and I pointed out cases where much less source material was given.