Bayonetta..

[Dyne]

..is my favourite game since RE4. 'nuff said. :)

[Vampyr]

I'm sort of considering this game, but I'd like to know before I get it...how sexist is it exactly?

[TheSlyMoogle]

I'm sort of considering this game, but I'd like to know before I get it...how sexist is it exactly?

No more sexist than the media. Perhaps sluttier than the media.

Bayonetta is a dirty girl, and we like dirty girls... right?

I'm less than 30 minutes in, just found it too hard to concentrate on the game while I was so sleepy so had to stop.

[Vampyr]

Being relatively sexist doesn't make it more acceptable.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Being relatively sexist doesn't make it more acceptable.

Haha I don't really see anything wrong with it. I don't see her as sexist, more so as a very strong willed woman. I mean honestly you can compare her to every super heroine you see with less clothes sometimes haha. She's witty, a sexy accent, and wicked looking moves. Honestly compare her to catwoman. If you find catwoman sexist, then I suppose Bayonetta is sexist.

Going with bayonetta though, you rarely see any portrayal of a female lead character that isn't borderline sexist.

Storm, Rogue, Catwoman, Psylocke, Jean Grey, Wonder Woman. I mean they're not really leads, but they're pretty sexist. Scantily clad, often times accents etc. Basically if you're going to boycott Bayonetta as sexist, might as well boycott comic books, magazines, tv etc. Everything in the media is basically one big sexist go at women.

[Swan]

And to that extent to you can pretty much boycott all male characters. Most are in great shape, extremely witty, barely clothed and can do everything that needs to be done.

[TheSlyMoogle]

And to that extent to you can pretty much boycott all male characters. Most are in great shape, extremely witty, barely clothed and can do everything that needs to be done.

Agreed.

[Vampyr]

I agree that video games are sexist towards both men and women. The big difference is that as a man it will most likely never affect your life, career, etc.

And small amounts of it I can overlook, I was asking because it looks like the game is founded on two principles : fighting things, and how sexual they can make the main character.

[Dyne]

What the heck happened to this thread?

The gameplay is amazing. That's all that matters. Go download the demo.

This worries me greatly. Madworld was also fantastic and I feel like I was the only person here who bought the game. Platinum Games deserves a hell of a lot more respect.

[BreakABone]

What the heck happened to this thread?

The gameplay is amazing. That's all that matters. Go download the demo.

This worries me greatly. Madworld was also fantastic and I feel like I was the only person here who bought the game. Platinum Games deserves a hell of a lot more respect.

I bought Madworld as well, this game will bomb hard, and it has nothing to do with the company.

Anyhow, here is a video of the costumes she can wear, some of them... are a bit revealing.

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[Acebot44]

Having been out of the video game world for quite a while (apart from a long stint with NBA 2k10), I decided to play the demo to see what I've been missing...and is this all?

Was not impressed at all. Felt like a straight up button masher, despite the combo system, and the main character's design is pretty horrendous imo. Those outfits dont even compliment her skin tone...:(

[Vampyr]

What the heck happened to this thread?

The gameplay is amazing. That's all that matters. Go download the demo.

This worries me greatly. Madworld was also fantastic and I feel like I was the only person here who bought the game. Platinum Games deserves a hell of a lot more respect.

I did download the demo, it causes my xbox to freeze when I try to load it up. :P

[BreakABone]

Having been out of the video game world for quite a while (apart from a long stint with NBA 2k10), I decided to play the demo to see what I've been missing...and is this all?

Was not impressed at all. Felt like a straight up button masher, despite the combo system, and the main character's design is pretty horrendous imo. Those outfits dont even compliment her skin tone...:(

I wouldn't make one game color your judgement, if anything this game is the exception not the rule.

Hell its not even made on the Unreal engine. :lol:

Though I guess I did recommend it, but I do love me some beat em ups.

And will eventually get this.

Though poses an interesting question, what one game should we show Acebot to show him what he has missed?

[TheSlyMoogle]

I agree that video games are sexist towards both men and women. The big difference is that as a man it will most likely never affect your life, career, etc.

And small amounts of it I can overlook, I was asking because it looks like the game is founded on two principles : fighting things, and how sexual they can make the main character.

That's a sexist view in itself? Basically saying men are better than women because they wont be affected?

Saying that wont affect a man is basically societal conditioning. Of course it affects guys, just thanks to societal conditioning guys are a hell of a lot less likely to talk about it.

Guys basically have the same self-image problem as girls do. Males developing eating disorders and other self-image type scenarios is starting to be a big deal.

Onto the game.

Since when is being overtly sexual also being sexist? I mean I realize that most people think it's cool for a guy to sleep with any woman/man that walks by but if a woman did the same she's labeled a whore. However I believe as sexual beings neither are whores and they're just doing what our species longs to do, procreate to survive. Sex is fun, lots of people enjoy it, and if they want to express their enjoyment more power. If they want to have some fun with it, go them. If a game wants to have a female lead (Which is rare in itself), who is a sexual being... Go get em Bayonetta. To explain further technically she is a witch, and in Wicca and Pagan beliefs sex is a powerful thing and very important.

To be really honest there hasn't been too much sexual stuff in the game, and it actually is shaping up to have a decent story.

The point is I don't think you should miss out on this game because you think it's sexist. There are better ways to protest the objectification of women than to not play a video game.

[Combine 017]

Here ya go Vampyr.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1061961p1.html

[DarkMaster]

Rented and beaten on 360 just recently. A pretty damn good game, definitely the definitive action game currently available. Those boss battles were incredibly awesome, I can only imagine a title like God of War 3 possibly surpassing them. The story was complete nonsense though, truly ridiculous, but still highly enjoyable.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Rented and beaten on 360 just recently. A pretty damn good game, definitely the definitive action game currently available. Those boss battles were incredibly awesome, I can only imagine a title like God of War 3 possibly surpassing them. The story was complete nonsense though, truly ridiculous, but still highly enjoyable.

It kinda all made sense in the end.

Especially all of Bayonetta's weird conflicts and stuff.

I also liked how basically the angels looked like demons and there was no clear concept of whether heaven was actually good and hell was actually bad, even though the game said paradiso = good and hell = bad.

And in the end, all kinds of sexy poses. Mmm.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Also, big fan of CCCCCCCOMBOS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdQAHbS9c44&feature=video_response

[Dyne]

I just finished it and my opinion hasn't changed. It's still as amazing as when I first picked it up. I'm probably going to do a second playthrough on Hard now.

[TheSlyMoogle]

I just finished it and my opinion hasn't changed. It's still as amazing as when I first picked it up. I'm probably going to do a second playthrough on Hard now.

Gonna suggest you skim through normal mode and get all the witch hearts and moon pearls before doing hard mode. Also if you didn't pick up the whip or the kilgore get those as well. There's a pseudo-glitch with the kilgore that allows you to do massive damage.

basically on one weapons set equip whatever to your hands and the claws to your feet. (I equip claws in elec form for both as they are the fastest attack speed in the game until you get the nunchucks)

on the second weapon set equip the kilgore to your feet and whatever you want to your hands you wont be using this one for attack anyway.

Basically you do this combo which works in air and on ground, p,p,p,p,k

but inbetween punch 4 and the kick you hit lt to switch weapon sets. This glitches the animation for the claw kick into the kilgore's rocket fire it's kinda odd, but fires a bunch of rockets really fast. Once you get the hang of it you can beast the game.

The worst part about Hard mode is the claw angels, pride and glory I think. In their gold form you can't witch time off of them, and in hard mode they only throw those at you basically all the time. :s

Also in the mode after hard mode you cannot use witch time at all. It's rough going, but I just got to chapter 14 on it. Decided that tomorrow would probably be the day I finish it. The 100 point achievement is so worth it.