Mafia Round 4 - Six Million Forms of Communication [Archive]

Bond

06-16-2009, 10:28 PM

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Day Five

Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat.

In the words of the Rebel Alliance…

Stranded on Tatooine. Day 48.

This is the forty-eighth day that I have been separated from my Rebel fleet.

My spirits are low, and my rations are even lower.

*C-3PO picks up a plaque that R2-D2 gave to him at the start of the war, it reads:*

“It is always darkest just before the dawn, but the dawn is coming.”

“Ha, what a cruel joke that has become,” says C-3PO.

*A loud bang at the front door is heard.*

“Oh, no! The Stormtroopers have finally found me, I must exit the back door!”

*C-3PO attempts to leave, but is surrounded by Stormtroopers on all sides.*

“This is a misunderstanding, my Galatic friends,” lies C-3PO.

“I am a terrific protocol droid! I fluently speak over…”

*C-3PO is shot dead.*

In the words of the Galactic Empire…

Five years earlier.

*From C-3PO's Journal.*

Admiral Ackbar has been discovered. He was a double agent, working for the Galactic Empire.

As an android, I always found something fishy about him, perhaps it was because he looked like a fish?

Right before the door opened below his feet to be hanged, he was said to have screamed:

"IT'S A TRAP!"

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The Dead

Fyacin - C-3PO (Vigilante) - Killed by the Mafia in round three
BreakABone - Admiral Ackbar (Mafia) - Killed by the vote in round three

Previously Dead

Ric - Darth Vader (Villager) - Killed by the Vigilante in round two
Darmani - Darth Maul (Villager) - Killed by the Mafia in round two
Combine - Jango Fett (Mafia) - Killed by the vote in round two
Typhoid – Luke Skywalker (Guardian) – Killed by the Mafia in round one
Manasecret – Lando Calrissian (Villager) – Killed by the vote in round one

Player / Character List

1. jeepnut - Padme Amidala
2. Dylflon - Chewbacca
3. Teuthida - Boba Fett
4. tornadothrasher - Jabba the Hutt
5. thatmariolover - Obi-Wan Kenobi
6. Bube - Princess Leia Organa
7. Nighthawk - Emperor Palpatine
8. Swan - R2-D2
9. Angrist - Han Solo
10. The Germanator - Yoda
11. BlueFire - General Grievous
12. Vampyr - Qui-Gon Jinn

This round will end tomorrow, Wednesday June 17th, at 10:30 pm ET / 9:30 pm CT / 7:30 pm PT.

Make sure to get at least two posts in and your vote.

BreakABone

06-16-2009, 10:31 PM

At least, I was correct on the two powerhouses. :cool:

Fun game.
Can't wait for next.

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Dylflon

06-16-2009, 10:32 PM

OH THANK GOD!

Wow...

And I hit another good normal.

So we have a network of three.

Good work on the votes, everyone.

Teuthida

06-16-2009, 10:34 PM

Kind of figured BAB was but we had an agreement I wouldn't vote for him unless I was absolutely certain.

What I find weird is the mafia seems to be really good at going after the specials...and I think I might know how...and that bothers me.

I have to go review the voting pattern from the last round.

The Germanator

06-16-2009, 10:36 PM

Good job, good guys! We almost let that get away. Unfortunately we lost Fyacin, but if play it well we still have the 10-2 advantage, we just have to figure some things out.

Fyacin

06-16-2009, 10:40 PM

I saw that coming actually.
...
Can't say more.
Good luck guys, I think we can win this!

Dylflon

06-16-2009, 10:41 PM

Good job, good guys! We almost let that get away. Unfortunately we lost Fyacin, but if play it well we still have the 10-2 advantage, we just have to figure some things out.

We have 4-5 rounds to vote two more mafia out. So we're going to have to be pretty efficient.

Vampyr

06-16-2009, 10:45 PM

Eh? How is the mafia so good at getting specials? Why did Fyacin see it coming?

I think our dudes trusted the wrong evil dude.

I think this vindicates Jeepnut since he attacked BaB from the beginning.

I also feel like BaB was playing Dylflon a little bit here, and I'm more trusting of him after the last round.

I think we need to look at other people who have been flying under the radar. Angrist suspected BlueFire last time...might want to check out some of his old posts.

Swan

06-16-2009, 10:47 PM

Man, I always end up trusting the wrong people.

Though from reading the previous threads I came to my conclusion mostly on my own though the penguin prodded a little.

Hmm, who to trust now.

jeepnut

06-16-2009, 11:09 PM

Whew! That was an exciting round. I'm just glad I was right about BreakaBone. I was sure he was mafia, but I was awfully worried about what would happen if I was wrong.

I really would like to know who seems to have infiltrated the ring of specials. It would seem the mafia's killing of the guardian and the vigilante was not a coincidence.

Now, who to target next? I still have my suspicions about Swan, BlueFire, tornadothrasher, and Nighthawk, but my convictions on any of them are not nearly as strong as they were on BaBs since I never spoke with any of them. We have a lot to consider friends...

Dylflon

06-17-2009, 03:31 AM

Bube

06-17-2009, 05:00 AM

Well, this will most likely be my last round.

I'm considering announcing the normal good guys I seered. Granted, they will be targeted after I'm out of the game, but at least the village wouldn't waste time voting for them.

I need a public opinion here.
Why would they be targeted? They can already be targeted, can't they?

And I have something big to announce, but don't know if I should directly point at people. Might be dangerous.

Nighthawk

06-17-2009, 07:08 AM

Yeah so trusted the wrong guy... but he was the only one who contacted me and discussed things over with... that's what happens when you keep me out of the loop.

jeepnut

06-17-2009, 07:09 AM

Well, this will most likely be my last round.

I'm considering announcing the normal good guys I seered. Granted, they will be targeted after I'm out of the game, but at least the village wouldn't waste time voting for them.

I need a public opinion here.

If you have information, you need to share it. Whether you do it publicly or privately is up to you.

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 07:39 AM

Why would they be targeted? They can already be targeted, can't they?

And I have something big to announce, but don't know if I should directly point at people. Might be dangerous.

He means targeted by the mafia. Once the mafia knows who is in an alliance, they'll shoot those guys down first to remove cohesiveness in the villagers.

That being said, I don't know who to vote for at the moment. I was going to go for Dylflon, but after the last round I don't think so anymore.

Angrist

06-17-2009, 07:47 AM

Ok, that was an intense round. I was actually thinking that the mafia had put up Jeepnut and BaB against eachother and that they were both innocent.

Now that we have caught 2 mafiosi, it should be easier to find patterns in the previous rounds.

BlueFire, yes I think you're suspicious because you're indecisive. You're also always raising suspicion, but never voting. It appears that BaB did the same, convincing people without sticking his own head out.
You also voted a few times without giving good reasons. On people who we now know were innocent.

Admittedly, I also voted for innocent. I was telling BaB about that over MSN yesterday... people seemed to follow my voting in round 1 and 2. I remembered what Manasecret had said in the sign-up thread, so it was a 'safe' vote.
In round 2 I suddenly remembered I hadn't voted yet, while I was at a friend and we were about to go to the cinema. I quickly logged in on his laptop and needed to cast a vote. Ric didn't have any votes yet, and because he talked so much, he caught my attention.
I would personally be more suspicious of the people who added to the count (TML, Vampyr, BaB, Dylflon).

I was suspicious of Vampyr, but he made the decisive vote against BaB. Again, that would be a very daring strategy of the mafia.

About Dylflon.... he's been saying for 3 rounds that this round will be his last. His end never came. But again, we can always kill him off later, when there's just 1 mafiosi left.

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 09:24 AM

I was most suspicious of Dylflon the entire last round, I admit. However, if you look my votes, I had my vote cast for BaB almost the entire day, only switching to Dyl a couple of times.

It turned out not to be a strategy whenever Jeepnut voted for combine (although I thought it was too, for a while).

I think people we need to look are the ones like you said: people who seem indecisive or gave their votes without reason.

Specifically, I am looking at Nighthawk and thatmariolover, both of which voted for Jeepnut in the last round.

Nighthawk's reasoning was 'I'm going to vote without thinking too much about it'

ThatMarioLover's vote for jeepnut came in a little before BaB's...and I don't think he ever changed it. In the last round, Jeepnut was the best hope that the mafia had for voting off a villager, since it was a racing tie between him and BaB. I think we should look at people who voted for him. If I had been in the mafia, I could have switched my vote from Dyl to Jeepnut, and tied things up to save BaB.

So, for the moment:

!vote Nighthawk

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 09:28 AM

By the way, who were the four people who voted for jeepnut?

I -think- it was:

BaB (dead) (mafia)
Nighthawk
TML
Swan

It would make sense that the two remaining mafia were two of the other three.

The Germanator

06-17-2009, 10:49 AM

Indeed, I think you're on the right track, Vampyr. Those three have been fairly quiet and that's usually a pretty good and dangerous tactic when you are Mafia because you slip between the cracks. I'm not sure I'm ready to vote now, but I think I might head in that direction.

We may have to be wary of the people who voted who, what I would call, "gave their votes away" Someone like Bluefire who voted for someone who had no chance of getting voted out. This takes him away from any suspicion because he didn't vote for Jeepnut or against Bab...I dunno, it's a different kind of strategy. I might have to take a look at round 3 again to see how the votes played out.

Angrist

06-17-2009, 11:48 AM

Ok here's what I think. Feel free to add. Dylflon, how about that information you've been promising for 2 rounds now?

1. jeepnut - Padme Amidala --> good guy
2. Dylflon - Chewbacca --> either the seer, or very smart mafia
3. Teuthida - Boba Fett --> not sure. He makes too complicated theories to be mafia imo.
4. tornadothrasher - Jabba the Hutt --> no idea. Terribly quiet. !Clarification He also missed a post in 2 rounds, doesn't that disqualify him?
5. thatmariolover - Obi-Wan Kenobi --> no idea.
6. Bube - Princess Leia Organa --> good guy
7. Nighthawk - Emperor Palpatine --> no idea
8. Swan - R2-D2 --> no idea
9. Angrist - Han Solo --> good guy, and handsome too
10. The Germanator - Yoda --> good guy
11. BlueFire - General Grievous --> suspicious in my book, but no idea tbh
12. Vampyr - Qui-Gon Jinn --> good guy

I used to love being online around the deadline, for some last minute action. But I'll have to get my vote in right now.
Just give me a few minutes to think and maybe wait for a reaction.

Angrist

06-17-2009, 12:02 PM

Ok, assuming that mafia like to be in the background, and because tornadothrasher voted Dylflon twice (and he even missed his vote in round 2??), I'll go with him.

And this time don't follow me and make me look bad. :mad:
!Vote tornadothrasher

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 12:07 PM

I feel like you might want to vote for someone else because Bond may kill him anyway since he should be disqualified.

Angrist

06-17-2009, 12:12 PM

Nah I read the rules, you have to be inactive for more than 2 rounds.
I don't really understand why Swan got his final warning, when he was only inactive in 1 round.

Anyway, I have to go home and cook diner. See you and the results tomorrow.

Nighthawk

06-17-2009, 12:49 PM

Nighthawk's reasoning was 'I'm going to vote without thinking too much about it'

well I said that not to get too much attention in case Bab got voted out and was good. the thing is, I talked things over with Bab and I was convinced that he was good. As I said before, I was tricked, and Bab new how to manipulate the new guy... not that he tried hard, I guess I just wanted to trust him. my bad.

jeepnut

06-17-2009, 12:50 PM

Still waiting on Dylflon's info to help me make a decision. I beginning to wonder why he hasn't shared anything yet.

tornadothrasher

06-17-2009, 01:08 PM

I know, Jabba isn't usually too quiet of a dude but honestly, I've never played mafia before and instead of pissing everyone off by doing stupid things/not knowing too many people on GT, I'm just trying to roll through the game and figure some stuff out.

thatmariolover

06-17-2009, 01:12 PM

I have to be totally honesty, BaB had me duped. I believed him.

On the other hand, he also told me to trust Dylflon, which makes me trust him even less than I already do. I'd suggest we vote Dylflon off unless he can illuminate us with his Seer skills. I think it's possible Dylflon claimed he was the Seer in order to draw the real Seer out in anger so that the mafia could kill him off.

!vote Dylflon

Bube

06-17-2009, 01:25 PM

All right, here's my "big" thing.

Fyacin told me, Germy and jeepnut that he was the vigilante. And got killed. Make of that what you will. I don't know if he had told anybody else. Or if it was a lucky guess by the mafia.

But seeing how everybody voted for Combine and BaB (I didn't, I know, but I was manipulated by him, unfortunately), I'm not really sure.

I'm quite suspicious of BlueFire, and I !vote BLuefire.

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 01:28 PM

thatmariolover

06-17-2009, 01:43 PM

!retract Nighthawk

!vote tornadothrasher

Okay, so...we have a situations where everyone who voted for Jeepnut (except swan so far) is like "lol BaB tricked me".

I'm halfway to believing this, since he tried the same thing with me.

I'm starting to get the feeling that 1 or 2 of the remaining mafia haven't been playing.

I don't really know what to say. I wanted to trust somebody right away, BaB was a bad choice but he was fairly central in the alliance last game so I decided to start with him.

Now, the things BaB wanted me to believe make me suspicious. He was very protective of Dylflon and Vampyr. It was a bit foolish for him to say things like in the event that he was offed. I think the mafia decided since BaB looked so suspicious they were going to off him in the votes. Thus they make two of their own look innocent. After all, they voted for BaB.

That's why I'm holding to my vote for Dylfon. I firmly believe that he and Vampyr are the last two Mafia.

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 01:46 PM

I don't really know what to say. I wanted to trust somebody right away, BaB was a bad choice but he was fairly central in the alliance last game so I decided to start with him.

Now, the things BaB wanted me to believe make me suspicious. He was very protective of Dylflon and Vampyr. It was a bit foolish for him to say things like in the event that he was offed. I think the mafia decided since BaB looked so suspicious they were going to off him in the votes. Thus they make two of their own look innocent. After all, they voted for BaB.

That's why I'm holding to my vote for Dylfon. I firmly believe that he and Vampyr are the last two Mafia.

...

That has got to be the bizarre theory ever.

!retract Tornadothrasher

!vote thatmariolover

I should have just stuck with my original theory to begin with.

thatmariolover

06-17-2009, 01:51 PM

Is it bizarre? Dylflon even posted at the end of the thread last time that he expected you to change your vote. Which you both conveniently did near the end of the voting cycle.

I'm actually expecting Vampyr to change his vote back to BaB. If he can react in time.

http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showpost.php?p=252910&postcount=95

Bond

06-17-2009, 01:55 PM

!Clarification He also missed a post in 2 rounds, doesn't that disqualify him?
One more round of inactivity and tornadothrasher would be disqualified. Two more rounds of inactivity and Swan would be disqualified.

Bube

06-17-2009, 01:57 PM

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 02:04 PM

Yes, it's so much more likely that two mafia would group together to vote off another mafia when they would already be severely outnumbered.

Also, in the last round Dylflon was far and away the most suspicious player, your reasoning that the mafia would have killed BaB because he was being so suspicious is ridiculous.

Also, if BaB had so many people tricked and on his side, which you and several others had already admitted to, wouldn't the mafia want to keep someone like that around instead of killing him and losing so many potential allies?

thatmariolover

06-17-2009, 02:10 PM

No, because it's just like BaB. He would come up with some retardedly complicated plot and even if it involved him dying it would still be him winning because he came up with the plan. That's exactly the way his twisted mind works. And you all know it.

Yes, if it would make the two remaining Mafia look innocent I think that's exactly something that BaB would orchestrate, and indeed did orchestrate in my opinion.

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 02:16 PM

But Dylflon never has, nor does he now, look innocent.

thatmariolover

06-17-2009, 02:18 PM

But Dylflon never has, nor does he now, look innocent.

Which is why I voted for him.

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 02:30 PM

Which is why I voted for him.

Yes but now, especially after the last few posts, you look much, much more guilty. Plus you -did- vote for Jeepnut last time, which I find more likely a sign of being in the mafia than some convoluted scheme that BaB supposedly concocted which involved the rest of the Mafia voting for him in order to gain the trust of everyone else.

If that had been the plan, the votes wouldn't have went in at the last second, either.

thatmariolover

06-17-2009, 02:43 PM

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 02:49 PM

How do I look more guilty? Because I pointed out some interesting coincidences? That doesn't make me guilty - it makes me honest. You on the other hand are only interested in shifting the blame to me because I pointed a flashlight on you. You didn't even act like I was guilty until I brought your name into the matter. So if you've got something to say then say it.

But it seems like you're more interested in bringing down the people who are suspicious of you than you are in bringing down the Mafia.

Um, yes I did act like you were guilty before this. I listed you, Nighthawk, and Swan.

I changed my vote to that tornado guy after you and nighthawk posted about BaB tricking you, because he tried the same thing on me and I felt you might be telling some truth.

But then you flipped out for some reason, which brought my attention back to you.

Which has be wondering two things:

Why would you do that if my vote wasn't currently on you?

This either means that tornado is the other mafia and you needed to protect him, or you are a villager. But if you are a villager it doesn't make sense to bring so much attention to yourself with a weird and far fetched theory.

thatmariolover

06-17-2009, 02:52 PM

You contradict yourself, though.

I mean, you say:
But Dylflon never has, nor does he now, look innocent.
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showpost.php?p=252988&postcount=37

And yet according to Dylflon in the last thread you guys were communicating behind the scenes:
I'm actually expecting Vampyr to change his vote back to BaB. If he can react in time.
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showpost.php?p=252910&postcount=95

To which you did indeed promptly change your vote.

So which is it, you thought he was innocent before? Or he's never been innocent? Because you're contradicting yourself.

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 02:57 PM

I have not communicated with Dyl until after that last round was over.

The reason I changed my vote, and the reason he suspected me too, was because my vote for Dylflon was a wasted one, with only a couple of minutes left and him having only 1 or 2 votes, there was no hope that anyone was going to go for him.

Like I said in the last thread, I didn't care who died as long as it was BaB, Dyl, or Jeepnut.

BaB dying has at least vindicated Jeepnut, and partially vindicated Dyl. I do not totally believe Dylflon is innocent, but I do so more than I did in the last round.

BlueFire

06-17-2009, 03:44 PM

As far as I'm concerned, this constant bickering always concerns the same group of people while we still have a number of others who are relatively "quiet" and just drop in to vote, say a few lines, and disappear. I'm not openly accusing anyone, but I'm insinuating that we should probably "expand our horizons."

However, that doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that we're suspicious of each other. I understand I'm a main suspect now, mostly due to my indecisiveness, my erratic voting pattern, etc.

Bube, I find it a curious thing that you are now voting against me when in Round 2, you rightly messaged me and told told me your thoughts on Combine being evil. However, in the same message, I believe you said Ric was in the same league as Combine? I should have believed you and voted with you on your first point, but I was sure Ric wasn't mafia (esp. since we communicated a lot). But whatever, that was just two rounds ago, right?

However, Angrist (I think..too lazy to check :p) says I threw a vote away last round, and that I did. I didn't want any part in the jeepnut/BaB battle and instead voted for Angrist (which some have called a throwaway vote and made me look suspicious?) based on suspicion and his voting record... but you, Bube, had kept your vote for BaB until..
http://gametavern.net/forums/showpost.php?p=252855&postcount=52
You retracted and "threw your vote" for Swan. My "throwaway vote" is seen as suspicious. Yours isn't.

Also, you knew about Fyacin and his role as the vigilante, along with Germanator and jeepnut. How were the members of the mafia able to kill off one of our most valuable members? Dumb luck? I find that hard to believe.

Lastly, I know you talked to BaB, but I'm pretty sure BaB talked to everyone he could talk to in this game.

I obviously suspect you, but I'm always slow with these sort of things. I'm currently debating whether or not to vote for you-- especially because I don't want my vote to be seen as a "reactionary vote".

But as I said at the start of this post, the same people keep bickering while there is still a odd number of people who are relatively quiet. I suggest we investigate this more.

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 04:00 PM

I'm not suspicious of BlueFire because he could have voted for Jeepnut and tipped the scale, saving BaB.

What we have to look at here is that they were 1 vote away from being tied. Anyone that didn't vote for Jeepnut is -probably- not a Mafia, since they could have at least tied it, giving them a chance to save BaB.

Unless...they didn't post, which really makes things hard to judge.

Dylflon

06-17-2009, 04:14 PM

So I won't be around at round's end to pass on info before I die since I'm helping my girlfriend on a photoshoot.

That means that I've only confirmed 2 good guys .

The pro side of outing them:

Nobody bothers wasting votes on them.
It narrows the field slightly.

The cons:
Once I'm dead, the mafia will go straight for them to make things more confusing for the villagers.
Nobody seems to be suspicious of them anyways.

Dylflon

06-17-2009, 04:17 PM

I !vote thatmariolover because I need to vote for somebody and since he keeps riding my ass.

Dylflon

06-17-2009, 04:18 PM

And for the triple post the two innocent players are Vampyr and Teuthida.

Vampyr is pretty sure TML is mafia so I'm rolling with it.

Angrist

06-17-2009, 04:20 PM

Dude. Nobody cares if the mafia go after them in the next round. It's 2 villagers who are confirmed to be good. They already know that, don't they?

But we don't.

I think you're just stalling. If you reveal their names, you die and you turn out to be evil, you'll have us confused. Nobody knows whether the last mafia is among those 2 or not.
If you reveal their names, those 2 might say "euh circle of trust? I haven't communicated with Dylflon at all!" and you'll be busted.

If you don't reveal them and survive this round, you can play this whole game all over again in the next round.

Give. Us. The. Info. Stop playing with us.
Edit: ok there it is.

Vampyr and Teuthida, is this true?

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 04:20 PM

Haha, ninjad.

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 04:23 PM

Yes, it is true. That's why I said that I hadn't communicated with him until after the end of the last round, which is when he seered me, and why I said that I am no longer as suspicious of him as I was in the last round.

Teuthida can speak for himself when he gets here.

thatmariolover

06-17-2009, 04:29 PM

Haha, Jedi'd.

Fixed!

But if you guys are Mafia you know who the good guys are. So you just randomly start contacting them saying they're good? Seems easy enough. On the other hand, nobody else has claimed to be the seer yet, so it could be. Unless it's just a rouse to get the real seer to show himself.

At any rate, this game is getting too complicated. It's fun, but only for so long. I'm sticking by my vote for Dylflon, if I was mafia why waste the vote, my time, or make this big of a deal out of it (drawing attention to myself) when I could take him out after this round?

Angrist

06-17-2009, 04:31 PM

Blah. This is getting complicated.
By the way, I was bored tonight so decided to come back for some more mafia love.

I still think it's a good idea to go after the quiet people. What are they contributing to the game anyway? They just enter the thread, cast their vote and leave again.

I'll stick with my vote.

Vampyr

06-17-2009, 04:33 PM

Fixed!

But if you guys are Mafia you know who the good guys are. So you just randomly start contacting them saying they're good? Seems easy enough. On the other hand, nobody else has claimed to be the seer yet, so it could be. Unless it's just a rouse to get the real seer to show himself.

At any rate, this game is getting to complicated. It's fun, but only for so long. I'm sticking by my vote for Dylflon, if I was mafia why waste the vote, my time, or make this big of a deal out of it (drawing attention to myself) when I could take him out after this round?

This is why I said I wasn't entirely sure about Dylflon, since he could be a mafia just pretending to be the seer.

But the fact that no one else has stood up and said 'I'm the seer!', coupled with that fact that he and Teuthida made no attempt to save BaB, leads me to believe he is the real seer.

tornadothrasher

06-17-2009, 04:42 PM

Hmm, despite what I thought before, I actually think Dylflon makes a convincing argument and TML...I don't know... AHH confusion

!thatmariolover

Teuthida

06-17-2009, 05:46 PM

Yes, it's true Dylflon contacted me telling me he seered me. And then last round told me he seered Vampyr and that he was a goodie too. I would like to believe him but there is still no proof unless someone else speaks up as being the real seer.

I'm wary of the votes from last round. BAB hinted that maybe a couple mafia got into voting for him in the confusion. Don't know if he was just messing with me or that some of those who voted for him (and maybe changed their vote) were mafia.

When I didn't know who to vote for last vote and said I was going to go with someone from my list of unknowns, he suggested I go with Angrist. I would like to say that clears Angrist of suspicion but who knows how deep the trickery goes. Then again Angrist's list matches mine pretty closely...but I'm less trusting of some of those on it after BAB's hint.

Bond

06-17-2009, 05:46 PM

Standings:

thatmariolover - 3
tornadothrasher - 1
Dylflon - 1
BlueFire - 1

Bube

06-17-2009, 05:46 PM

BlueFire: Yes, I know I contacted you in the second round. The reason I got suspicious of you was because you didn't vote for Combine, even though you said that that was what we had to do, and the votes were tied, meaning you could've broken it. But you didn't.

About the Fyacin thing, yes, I know it makes me look suspicious. But I was just trying to get some info out. I sure as hell don't believe Fyacin got killed out of luck, on the round he said this. All 3 of us could be guilty in everybody else's eyes, think of that what you will. I damn well know that I'm not guilty.

I never thought your throwaway vote was suspicious. And neither should mine be. I trusted jeepnut and voted for BaB, then I thought that my decision might be too fast, but just didn't have time to figure out a new name. I could've voted for you, like I did right now, but I decided to wait one more round for something to be revealed about you. Nothing, so I'm going with my first thought.

Teuthida

06-17-2009, 06:18 PM

Fyacin told me, Germy and jeepnut that he was the vigilante. And got killed. Make of that what you will. I don't know if he had told anybody else. Or if it was a lucky guess by the mafia.

When did Fyacin tell you guys?

I'm wary of Germy. I had him pegged as a goodie but after BAB's hint at the voting confusion and that he said it was easy to find out who the vigilante was. Germy's first post in this thread is oozing with generic goodguy patonthebackness. I try not to let the tone of posts make me jump to conclusions but that one just seemed off to me from how some baddies posted in past mafia games...well, Dylflon's too. Again don't want vote based on tone of post.

Swan

06-17-2009, 06:24 PM

I hate coming into these threads four pages in. Takes way too long to read everything and getting all these theories at once hurts my brain.

I need time to ponder out my vote

Bube

06-17-2009, 06:40 PM

When did Fyacin tell you guys?

I'm wary of Germy. I had him pegged as a goodie but after BAB's hint at the voting confusion and that he said it was easy to find out who the vigilante was. Germy's first post in this thread is oozing with generic goodguy patonthebackness. I try not to let the tone of posts make me jump to conclusions but that one just seemed off to me from how some

He told us right at the beginning of the last round. And yes, Germy's first post got me thinking as well, but I agree with you. And I usually wait a bit before I come to a conclusion..

jeepnut

06-17-2009, 06:40 PM

Alright, I need more time to think this over, but I'm not sure I'll have it tonight. Putting in a placeholder vote that may change.

!vote thatmariolover

Even if you are innocent, we should still learn a great deal. Hopefully I'm back in time to take a second look at all of this.

thatmariolover

06-17-2009, 07:27 PM

Adieu!

BlueFire

06-17-2009, 07:42 PM

It seems like you guys have signed thatmariolover's death warrant.

There are too many quiet peoples I want to investigate, but my vote won't matter much since the mob has decided who dies today. He has voted dylflon more than once and even voted against jeepnut last round. I guess that seals the deal.. I hope. :unsure:

I still think we're not focusing enough on the quiet people.. thinking of tornado, Nighthawk, Swan, teuthida..

Oh well,

!vote thatmariolover

Dylflon

06-17-2009, 07:52 PM

Teuthida is legit though. Consider him vouched for once I'm dead.

Swan

06-17-2009, 07:58 PM

Quiet? QUIET!?!?!?

Thats because I go to school in the days and my computer AND internet only work some of the time. I shall hopefully be around more.

Can't really think of anyone this round so don't want to sign any death warrants.

!vote Teuthidia

Teuthida

06-17-2009, 07:58 PM

I still think we're not focusing enough on the quiet people.. thinking of tornado, Nighthawk, Swan, teuthida..

I'm just relatively quiet this round because I am more confused than ever.

Going to go with !vote Germanator for the reasons given above and because I don't have enough evidence to blindly condemn the lover of marios.

Nighthawk

06-17-2009, 08:10 PM

I really don't have any idea who to vote for... I'll just play safe this round, so

!vote Bube

because he probably won't get voted...

ok I'm going to bed now...

The Germanator

06-17-2009, 08:10 PM

I'm just relatively quiet this round because I am more confused than ever.

Going to go with !vote Germanator for the reasons given above and because I don't have enough evidence to blindly condemn the lover of marios.

I'll just say you're making a mistake. In consecutive rounds I've voted for both Combine and BaB, both Mafia, despite BaB trying to trick me. In essence, like it seems with everyone, BaB has been talking to every one (including me) and that's why I had a hunch he was up to no good. Honestly, I've been quiet in this game because my real life has been busy, no other reason than that.

Anyway, I'm torn between TML and someone like Tornado, though it looks like TML is going no matter how I vote. Just to go with my conviction (which has been right the last 2 rounds, by the way...

!vote tornadothrasher

Bond

06-17-2009, 08:38 PM

Standings:

thatmariolover - 5
tornadothrasher - 2
Dylflon - 1
BlueFire - 1
Teuthida - 1
The Germanator - 1
Bube - 1

About two hours until this round ends. Still plenty of time to deliberate.

jeepnut

06-17-2009, 08:42 PM

When did Fyacin tell you guys?

I'm wary of Germy. I had him pegged as a goodie but after BAB's hint at the voting confusion and that he said it was easy to find out who the vigilante was. Germy's first post in this thread is oozing with generic goodguy patonthebackness. I try not to let the tone of posts make me jump to conclusions but that one just seemed off to me from how some baddies posted in past mafia games...well, Dylflon's too. Again don't want vote based on tone of post.

Fyacin told us when I contacted everyone who voted for Combine in round 2. I contacted all of them together in a mass PM in order to form an alliance against BaB. Fyacin replied to all in the PM informing us that he was the vigilante.