Mafia Round 3 – The Tide of Fate Turns

[Bond]

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Day Four

Even when liars tell the truth, they are never believed. The liar will lie once, twice, and then perish when he tells the truth.

In the words of the Rebel Alliance…

Thirty-years in the future.

“It has been many years since the Great War. My memory has become faded as to the exact details of the conflict, but I remember immense suffering.

Though I have been a heroic soldier throughout the course of my life, I have failed in other respects.

I have not always been the best father, nor the best husband.

It is true that I have kill hundreds of Jedi, but doesn't everyone find them annoying anyway?

I am what I am, and that is that.”

“Are those your final words?”

“LONG LIVE THE REBELLION!” screamed Darth Maul.

*Darth Maul is hanged.*

In the words of the Galactic Empire…

Back to present time.

“You have changed, Vader.”

“How so, my Lord?”

“Your heart… is so much more pure, since killing your son.”

“My loyalty is still to you, my Lord.”

“I do believe you are still loyal, but there is hesitation. You are no longer fully evil.”

“My Lord…”

“Enough.

I have chosen my new apprentice, Darth Maul.

Vader, your time has met its close.”

“Very well, my Lord.

Maul, strike me down!”

*Darth Maul and Darth Vader engage in a darth-skirmish, which results in the death of Vader.*

Sometime later that day…

Jango Fett was playing a larger-than-life version of JENGA.

He built his JENGA up so high it could touch the sky.

Overconfident, Jango took out one too many blocks,

And his JENGA fell all over him.

It crushed him.

To death.

While the tide of fate turns slowly, the tide is turning.

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The Dead

Ric - Darth Vader (Villager) - Killed by the Vigilante in round two
Darmani - Darth Maul (Villager) - Killed by the Mafia in round two
Combine - Jango Fett (Mafia) Killed by the vote in round two

Previously Dead

Typhoid – Luke Skywalker (Guardian) – Killed by the Mafia in round one
Manasecret – Lando Calrissian (Villager) – Killed by the vote in round one


Player / Character List

1. BreakABone - Admiral Ackbar
2. jeepnut - Padme Amidala
3. Fyacin - C-3PO
4. Dylflon - Chewbacca
5. Teuthida - Boba Fett
6. tornadothrasher - Jabba the Hutt
7. thatmariolover - Obi-Wan Kenobi
8. Bube - Princess Leia Organa
9. Nighthawk - Emperor Palpatine
10. Swan - R2-D2
11. Angrist - Han Solo
12. The Germanator - Yoda
13. BlueFire - General Grievous
14. Vampyr - Qui-Gon Jinn


The following members are warned for not reaching their post quota and/or voting:

Tornadothrasher (2)
Swan

This is your one and only warning.


This round will end tomorrow, Tuesday June 16th, at 10:00 pm ET / 9:00 pm CT / 7:00 pm PT.

Make sure to get at least two posts in and your vote.

[The Germanator]

Nice work on killing Combine! I'll be honest and say it was a hunch, but a good one I suppose. But now, I think it's time.


!vote Dylflon

Why wouldn't the Mafia kill this outspoken "seer?" And the last minute vote to tie it up against Ric, a good guy...Too suspicious for me.

Yoda may have been born at night, but not last night.

[Teuthida]

Daddy noooo!!! I kept telling you a giant game of checkers was safer.

[Combine 017]

Damn you jenga! Damn you to hell!
Promise me my son, promise you will avenge my death!

[Teuthida]

Hmm, I dunno. You were evil and all. I think I might just play normal sized board games instead to honor your memory.

[Darmani]

hmm, didn't see that one coming. I guess the mafia didn't like me then.
well bye guys :) *waves*
it's been fun :)

[Ric]

''Vigilante sc...um...''
As Darth Vader struggles for his last breath he hears a voice, it is the King Of The Galactic Gametavern Arcade,

''Vader I grant you a special power, 'Darth Vader ghost form' Now you can come back later on to say I told you so.'' :lol:

Ah well, now you all know I was telling the truth. Consider the fact that the Vigilante killed me, I can say nothing more.

*Darth Vader Dies*

[Fyacin]

14 players and two mafia left?

[BlueFire]

Our vigilante must be drunk. I was almost sure Dylflon was going to be killed by the Mafia. This makes Dyl look incredibly bad, and yet, I'm almost sure he's not one of the mafia.

I'm holding off from the vote at the moment. Ric's death at the hands of the vigilante is seriously a crock of shit, though. :ohreilly:

[BreakABone]

Yeah I got to wonder if the vigilante was drunk at the wheel or something. :lolz:

[tornadothrasher]

Jaba hungry... and

!Dylflon

looks the tastiest. How did he escape my wrath from last time!!??

[Dylflon]

Wow, do I ever look bad now.

[Dylflon]

Is it worthwhile to post seering results if I only located a normal good guy?

Seems like it might be, but I want to get everyone's opinion on this because I'm kinda baked right now.

[BreakABone]

Is it worthwhile to post seering results if I only located a normal good guy?

Seems like it might be, but I want to get everyone's opinion on this because I'm kinda baked right now.

How would you post results?
Not allowed to share the contents of the PM, I thought? :ohreilly: :confused:

[Fyacin]

Yeah I got to wonder if the vigilante was drunk at the wheel or something. :lolz:

Maybe one of the new guys is vigilante?

[BreakABone]

Maybe one of the new guys is vigilante?

I don't know I've been Seer and Guardian before, and pretty certain the PM spells out your role.

Unless, vigilante didn't want to kill someone first round for fear of killing the wrong person.

[thatmariolover]

I wouldn't. If you're the seer, we're probably going to kill you off and find out (no offense). If that's the case, then the Mafia won't bother to kill you, they'll kill whoever you say is a good guy so none of us can network with them.

Chances are you'll just end up getting two good-guys killed instead of one.

For now...

!vote Dylflon

[jeepnut]

Well, I feel good about my decision. I was very close to changing my mind too.

[Vampyr]

Knowing that his racist instincts were correct the first time...


!vote Dylflon

[Bond]

Just to be clear (I think there was a question about this on the first page), there are three Mafia left, as the game starts out with four, and one has been killed.

[jeepnut]

Current tally:

Dylflon: 4

That was an easy count.

[BreakABone]

Current tally:

Dylflon: 4

That was an easy count.

:lol: :lolz:

I think that's kind of a dick move, but funny. :lolz:

[Teuthida]

Not going to vote for Dylflon because if he is indeed the seer we're playing into the mafia's hands. Then again if he is the seer he's too valuable not to kill sooner or later so there would probably be a hit on him next round if the votes don't get him. Either way Mr. Chewy shan't be around long.

Right now I'm just suspicious of jeepnut and fyacin based on watching them PM back and forth on the currently active list. Sure goodies can PM all they like...but why those two?

EDIT: Bah, forgot they were from the same forum. I guess that makes sense with the pair up. Still, the only ones saw PMing. *shrug*

Well I chill in deep space
A mask is over my face
Well I deliver the prize
But I still narrow my eyes
'Cause my time
I don't like to waste.

[jeepnut]

:lol: :lolz:

I think that's kind of a dick move, but funny. :lolz:

Thank you! Thank you!

Tip your waitresses.

[jeepnut]

Not going to vote for Dylflon because if he is indeed the seer we're playing into the mafia's hands. Then again if he is the seer he's too valuable not to kill sooner or later so there would probably be a hit on him next round if the votes don't get him. Either way Mr. Chewy shan't be around long.

Right now I'm just suspicious of jeepnut and fyacin based on watching them PM back and forth on the currently active list. Sure goodies can PM all they like...but why those two?

I was PMing Ric as well just before he died. You know, when I changed my vote to Combine (a mafia member) in an effort to save him.

Just sayin'.

[Teuthida]

Fine fine. Eh, I'll probably just end up voting for Swan again. R2D2 gets on my nerves.

[Teuthida]

My bad, was just reviewing round 2 and you both voted for Combine. I need to pay more attention.

And now have a list of probable definite goodies in order of probable definiteness...if that makes sense.

[Dylflon]

Revealing a normal good special doesn't help the mafia, since they need to track down the specials. But it could let you know one person not to vote for.


I guess the mafia would kill that person once the good specials are dead.

And as for networking, it will be near impossible once I'm dead.

[tornadothrasher]

There will be no bargain, young Jedi. I shall enjoy watching you die.

[Angrist]

so there would probably be a hit on him next round if the votes don't get him. That's what we've been saying for 2 rounds now.

As I posted in the previous round, I don't think Dylflon is the guy to play it open. He's one to play it smart. Smart and mean.

!vote Dylflon

Also: This makes Dyl look incredibly bad, and yet, I'm almost sure he's not one of the mafia.
Not going to vote for Dylflon because if he is indeed the seer we're playing into the mafia's hands.

Seriously, if you were Mafia and you knew the special role of somebody, could you resist the temptation of killing him? Would you want him seering people every round, while you waited for the mob to turn on him sooner or later?

In his defense, if he were mafia, why would he reveal his role in the first round? But hey, it's his job to defend himself, not mine.

[jeepnut]

That's what we've been saying for 2 rounds now.

As I posted in the previous round, I don't think Dylflon is the guy to play it open. He's one to play it smart. Smart and mean.

!vote Dylflon

Also:


Seriously, if you were Mafia and you knew the special role of somebody, could you resist the temptation of killing him? Would you want him seering people every round, while you waited for the mob to turn on him sooner or later?

In his defense, if he were mafia, why would he reveal his role in the first round? But hey, it's his job to defend himself, not mine.

They didn't kill him the first round because the guardian was still alive and they didn't want to waste a kill. And I'm betting they didn't kill him the second round because they figured we would do it for them. I would be willing to bet that if he's not winning the vote by the end of this round, they kill him. Honestly, it makes sense to keep him alive since much of the group doesn't trust him and it is consuming all of our attention.

It's entirely possible that he's been fooling us, but I don't think so. I would have expected the real seer to make contact with someone by now especially since they should have found someone they can trust through their seer abilities.

No, our real enemy right now is the one leading this voting effort.

!vote BreakaBone

[Bube]

This is probably the best game of Mafia I've played. It all started so fast :)

I have my suspicions. I've got my eye on all of you! :p

And yes, Dyl looks bad right now, but it may have been played out like we said last round. Keep that in mind.

I want to see how far this goes - the not voting Dyl and him not getting killed thing :)

[Angrist]

Hm now I'm starting to doubt. We can always kill off Dylflon later, it's not like he's the last mafia.

But if he's right, we're killing off the Seer.

Does anyone feel like coming up with alternative theories and targets?

[Bube]

I agree with you Angrist. I'm going to go with the BaB theory this turn, but I've got a few other ideas as well. I'll see how this round turns out, and reveal a different theory on the next one. For now, !vote BaB

[Fyacin]

There is really no reason to vote Dylf, even if he is mafia. I mean, if he is mafia, then he has a few cohorts and killing him now will only make us feel better. However, if he's not, we should leave him alive beacuse he might just be our seer.
Break A Bone sounds suspicious.
!vote break a bone

[BreakABone]

They didn't kill him the first round because the guardian was still alive and they didn't want to waste a kill. And I'm betting they didn't kill him the second round because they figured we would do it for them. I would be willing to bet that if he's not winning the vote by the end of this round, they kill him. Honestly, it makes sense to keep him alive since much of the group doesn't trust him and it is consuming all of our attention.

It's entirely possible that he's been fooling us, but I don't think so. I would have expected the real seer to make contact with someone by now especially since they should have found someone they can trust through their seer abilities.

No, our real enemy right now is the one leading this voting effort.

!vote BreakaBone

How am I leading the voting effort?
I haven't even voted yet? :confused:

[Vampyr]

They didn't kill him the first round because the guardian was still alive and they didn't want to waste a kill. And I'm betting they didn't kill him the second round because they figured we would do it for them. I would be willing to bet that if he's not winning the vote by the end of this round, they kill him. Honestly, it makes sense to keep him alive since much of the group doesn't trust him and it is consuming all of our attention.

It's entirely possible that he's been fooling us, but I don't think so. I would have expected the real seer to make contact with someone by now especially since they should have found someone they can trust through their seer abilities.

No, our real enemy right now is the one leading this voting effort.

!vote BreakaBone

Wait a minute, what? They don't know who the people with special powers are...the idea that they didn't kill the seer in order to kill the guardian doesn't make any sense.

!retract Dylflon for now

[Vampyr]

After pondering for a few seconds, I have decided Jeepnut is trying to protect Dylflon with weird theories.

!vote Dylflon

[jeepnut]

Wait a minute, what? They don't know who the people with special powers are...the idea that they didn't kill the seer in order to kill the guardian doesn't make any sense.

!retract Dylflon for now

I never said that.

I said that they didn't kill Dylflon because he had publically asked the Guardian to protect him and thus knew that an attack on Dylflon would likely be a waste.

I doubt they knew who the guardian was unless they had someone in contact with him. My assumption is that killing the guardian was a lucky guess.

[Vampyr]

I never said that.

I said that they didn't kill Dylflon because he had publically asked the Guardian to protect him and thus knew that an attack on Dylflon would likely be a waste.

I doubt they knew who the guardian was unless they had someone in contact with him. My assumption is that killing the guardian was a lucky guess.

Plausible, but the seer is a pretty useless power anyway since we can't trust anything he says (especially now). We've already got one Mafia, we could kill Dylflon this time and BaB next if we are wrong.

[The Germanator]

!retract Dylflon

!vote BreakaBone

The right way to go, I think this is.

[Nighthawk]

this thing is getting pretty confusing...

[BreakABone]

I understand why Jeepnut doesn't trust me, but I don't get the rest of you.

Anyhow here's the story with Jeepnut as far as I could figure, I was speaking with him during round 1 because you always want to make friends or whatever. And I suggested it would make sense to vote for dylflon because the move was so out of the blue, he had to be messing with us.

But by the time I cast my vote, there was already a 3-4 vote island between manasecret and Dylflon. So I figured it made no sense to fight the tide.

And I can see how Jeepnut would feel wishy washy about that, my thing is
1) http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showpost.php?p=252663&postcount=84
The vote switch was made at the VERY last minute, and I don't see why it was needed as it wouldn't swing the victory one way or another.

And when I asked him about it, he got defensive and has yet to answer me.

Day 2:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showpost.php?p=252741&postcount=57
He was right about Combine, but the fact that he didn't feel there was some coordinated attack, probably even including some Mafia baffles me when Ric/Combine ended up with the same number of votes.

Day 3:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showpost.php?p=252827&postcount=31
And now the current day, which he votes for me because I am leading the votes even though I have yet to vote for anyone.
And actually won't vote for Dylflon unless it comes down to me and him, for the simple fact that I believe he is the Seer, and I have a 3rd party who agrees with us. He has promised us results that I hope bear fruit tomorrow.
And for someone who blames other for leading votes, I would like to point out that pretty much every vote has followed his lead since posting this.

My thoughts, I feel that Jeepnut screwed up round 1 with me, and is just looking for a way to amend his damage before I can get any associates for a rallying vote.

That's my case anyhow.

[BlueFire]

For the BaB vote, I need to see some evidence or reasoning before casting my vote for him right now. True, I voted for him last round, but as I read the posts this round, I'm finding the sudden collective movement to eliminate BaB very suspicious (especially due to the lack of actual reasoning).

Originally, I was going to vote for Angrist since he seems so convinced that Dylflon should be killed off this round (and I'm almost sure if we vote him, we're going to kick ourselves in the ass).

But then I saw jeepnut starting the BaB movement:

They didn't kill him the first round because the guardian was still alive and they didn't want to waste a kill. And I'm betting they didn't kill him the second round because they figured we would do it for them. I would be willing to bet that if he's not winning the vote by the end of this round, they kill him. Honestly, it makes sense to keep him alive since much of the group doesn't trust him and it is consuming all of our attention.

It's entirely possible that he's been fooling us, but I don't think so. I would have expected the real seer to make contact with someone by now especially since they should have found someone they can trust through their seer abilities.

No, our real enemy right now is the one leading this voting effort.

!vote BreakaBone

Your theory sounds convincing, but nothing has led me to believe that BaB is evil. Not even Ric's rallying last round. I declare that BaB defends himself here and now before we go ahead and lose another valuable member to the mafia.

But before I end this post, I'm going to cast the vote for "the one leading this voting effort:"

!vote jeepnut

EDIT: BaB just posted his defense.. reading it now
EDIT 2: My vote stays.. for now.

[thatmariolover]

I'm also going to hold off on the Dylflon train. If we're going to burn for trusting him, we may as well go all the way. At least until trust can be established.

!retract Dylflon

I have to review all of the posts and I will vote again once I'm sure I haven't missed anything obvious.

[Vampyr]

We have an interesting scenario here. I agree that it is suspicious that Jeepnut suddenly decided to attack BaB.

Here's what I'm wondering:

If Jeepnut is in the Mafia, then he would know if Dylflon is or is not. If Dylflon is not in the Mafia, why would he risk himself to go after BaB? He wouldn't, he would let this round be an easy out for the mafia to get someone that everyone already suspects.

If Dylflon is in the Mafia, and Jeepnut is as well, then it makes sense to at least try to save him.

On the other hand, Jeepnut could not be in the mafia, and he just believes in Dylflon. However, his reasoning was a little weird, especially BaB didn't really start the movement to oust Dylflon, so it seems like he is reaching for a reason to go after BaB, and is basing his choice because Ric may have garnered suspicion for him already.

So all in all, I think Dyl and Jeepnut look the most suspicious here. We should probably vote one out, but I would encourage the vigilante to NOT kill the other one. This way if we end up being wrong about one, we probably won't be wrong about both. If we are right about Dylflon though, then it may be safe to vote Jeepnut off, since it would be pretty obvious that he was trying to save him this round. But, if we are wrong about Dylflon, then it will be obvious that Jeepnut is -not- in the Mafia, since he was trying to save him.

And even if Dylflon really is the seer, that is a useless power since it requires us to trust him, which we obviously don't.

[Fyacin]

Dy, you should reveal who you seered. Then we know at least a few people who are definetley good if you die and are innocent, so we know we can trust the names.

I mean, the mafia know who are innocent anyway. The only peice of information the don't know is the vigilante. (Or if you are mafia we have another seer somewhere.)

[jeepnut]

I understand why Jeepnut doesn't trust me, but I don't get the rest of you.

Anyhow here's the story with Jeepnut as far as I could figure, I was speaking with him during round 1 because you always want to make friends or whatever. And I suggested it would make sense to vote for dylflon because the move was so out of the blue, he had to be messing with us.

But by the time I cast my vote, there was already a 3-4 vote island between manasecret and Dylflon. So I figured it made no sense to fight the tide.

And I can see how Jeepnut would feel wishy washy about that, my thing is
1) http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showpost.php?p=252663&postcount=84
The vote switch was made at the VERY last minute, and I don't see why it was needed as it wouldn't swing the victory one way or another.

And when I asked him about it, he got defensive and has yet to answer me.

Day 2:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showpost.php?p=252741&postcount=57
He was right about Combine, but the fact that he didn't feel there was some coordinated attack, probably even including some Mafia baffles me when Ric/Combine ended up with the same number of votes.

Day 3:
http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showpost.php?p=252827&postcount=31
And now the current day, which he votes for me because I am leading the votes even though I have yet to vote for anyone.
And actually won't vote for Dylflon unless it comes down to me and him, for the simple fact that I believe he is the Seer, and I have a 3rd party who agrees with us. He has promised us results that I hope bear fruit tomorrow.
And for someone who blames other for leading votes, I would like to point out that pretty much every vote has followed his lead since posting this.

My thoughts, I feel that Jeepnut screwed up round 1 with me, and is just looking for a way to amend his damage before I can get any associates for a rallying vote.

That's my case anyhow.

I was waiting for this. I knew it was coming as soon as you PMed me to question my vote change. I made my change after I saw that you wound up voting Mana even though you said you didn't want to. I was just trying to save face. I felt that was pretty obvious.

You see, this is what BreakaBone does. Don't be fooled by the fact that he hasn't voted yet. He is in fact leading the vote or at least attempting to. He holds his own vote close until he feels he's convinced enough people to make it safe for him to commit to a vote. I know. He did this to me and he did it to Ric.

You see, I was in contact with him during the first round. He wanted me to change my vote to Dylflon because he felt that voting for Mana was a waste. I agreed with this assessment, but I was worried about painting a target on my back that early by voting for the supposed seer. I asked him if he could rally enough support to sway the vote and he said he would see what he could do. As a show of faith and to get the ball rolling, I changed my vote to Dylflon. I return near the end of the round to find that he had never put in a vote for Dylflon himself. He was playing his waiting game and when it became obvious to him that he wasn't going to be able to swing the vote this early, he grew cowardly and put in with the rest of the crowd and left Ric and I out to dry.

BreakaBone is playing people. And I'm willing to bet that he's doing it from the wrong side.

For those who are unsure, you have solid evidence that I'm on the good side. You can't say the same for BaBs.

[thatmariolover]

For those who are unsure, you have solid evidence that I'm on the good side. You can't say the same for BaBs.

You do? I've reviewed all of the posts and I really didn't see anything substantial one way or another. All of this finger pointing is getting a little bit old from both sides.

What I do know is that one way or another this is going to get sorted out and for now...

!vote Jeepnut

[BreakABone]

What solid evidence do we have that you are on the good side?

You voted Mana/Dylflon on Day 1... on my behest perharps, but either one was a safe bet.

Day 2, you voted Combine not because you felt he was guilty but because in your own words Ric had contacted you and Combine hadn't.

You are currently leading a charge against me, point to a period of time where you have done some nobel deed that proves your ultimate goodness?

As for my behavior, I've been at GT long enough for people to know I'm 2 things
1)Manipulative
2)Power hungry

Yeah in one Mafia I had Angrist killed so I could absorb his power.
In the last Mafia, I used some underhanded tactics to weed out the Mafia.

I'm not ashamed of what I do, its what needs to be done.

You start the game trusting only yourself, you use any and all means to weed out those who you think may act suspicious.

As of right now there are 3 people I truly trust in this game, Dylflon, the person he seered and someone else who I won't name drop to protect.

I thought Ric was guilty for his flip flopping vote.
I feel you are guility because of this one man agenda you have against me.
You keep mentioning some shadow organization, but its becoming clear that you have formed your own alliances.

[BlueFire]

After considering both sides, I'm stumped. Neither side has proven itself innocent. I need to hold back for now.

!retract jeepnut

Something is off, and I'm sure either you or BaB belongs to the mafia.

Not to steal the thunder from the two opposing forces at the moment, but I have a natural tendency to distrust the quiet ones in this game. You know who you are.

I'll be casting my vote later.

[Bube]

Hmm.. This is getting confusing. I'm getting suspicious of Jeepnut as well, but don't really want to help vote him out now. I'm going to waste my vote.

!retract BaB

!vote Swan because nobody else is probably going to vote for him. If more votes for Swan are given, I'll retract and vote somebody else with no votes.

[Angrist]

Ok I cycled to a university building to change my vote. I'm convinced that it makes no sense to kill off Dylflon at this point.

I also did some reading in day 1 and 2.

Day 2: Combine randomly votes for Nighthawk. Changes his vote later to Fyacin. Both could be decoys though.
People to vote for Combine: Bube, Darmani, Germy, Fyacin, Jeepnut. Jeepnut's voice was pretty decisive.

Day 1: Combine votes for Dylflon.
People who vote for Combine: TML.

I could go into further detail by closely looking at who voted for the guys that were executed by the mafia, but I don't have the time for that. And to be honest, I don't care that much.

There's just one guy who's been making very suspicious posts. Look them up and decide if you agree. I'm going home now.

!Retract Dylflon
!Vote BlueFire

[BreakABone]

I would just like to point out once more as I went through the front page that unless I misread something I wrote that I never mentioned one way or another where I was leaning in my vote.

And to save time since we all know where I am going today.

!vote Jeepnut

[Nighthawk]

Wow suddenly everyone turned against Bab... Now it's a Bab vs. jeepnut thing huh?

I don't know why jeepnut and the others decided to against Bab, obviously there are PMs and I'm out of the loop... anyway I'll just wait a little more for my vote.

[Dylflon]

Anyone care to do a vote count?

[Vampyr]

I'll go with Jeepnut. If he turns out to be Mafia, we can probably assume Dylflon is too.

If he turns out to be a villager, we can probably assume BaB is a mafia.

We have Mafia outnumbered, it won't hurt to trade them out a little.

!retract Dylflon

!vote Jeepnut

[BreakABone]

Too lazy to double check so if anyone wants to find out

Jeepnut- 3
BaB- 3
Dylflon- 1
Swan- 1
Bluefire- 1

LEaving 5 votes to go?

[Teuthida]

I'm very conflicted. I told BAB in the beginning I wasn't going to vote for him unless I had solid evidence he was a baddie. Whereas jeepnut was high on my list of probable goodies for putting the final nail in Combine's coffin. Ric and Combine were tied when he voted. If he was part of the mafia it wouldn't make sense to sacrifice another baddie to save a goodie.

Just going to randomly vote for one of the six people I have listed as unknowns who have yet to get any votes, just so I get a vote in: !vote thatmariolover

[Vampyr]

Hmm, I didn't realize he voted for Combine.

!retract Jeepnut

[jeepnut]

What solid evidence do we have that you are on the good side?

You voted Mana/Dylflon on Day 1... on my behest perharps, but either one was a safe bet.

Day 2, you voted Combine not because you felt he was guilty but because in your own words Ric had contacted you and Combine hadn't.

You are currently leading a charge against me, point to a period of time where you have done some nobel deed that proves your ultimate goodness?

As for my behavior, I've been at GT long enough for people to know I'm 2 things
1)Manipulative
2)Power hungry

Yeah in one Mafia I had Angrist killed so I could absorb his power.
In the last Mafia, I used some underhanded tactics to weed out the Mafia.

I'm not ashamed of what I do, its what needs to be done.

You start the game trusting only yourself, you use any and all means to weed out those who you think may act suspicious.

As of right now there are 3 people I truly trust in this game, Dylflon, the person he seered and someone else who I won't name drop to protect.

I thought Ric was guilty for his flip flopping vote.
I feel you are guility because of this one man agenda you have against me.
You keep mentioning some shadow organization, but its becoming clear that you have formed your own alliances.

Look at the way the votes went down in Day 2. Without my vote, Combine likely survives. There is no logical reason for a mafia member to make the deciding kill vote for another mafia member.

Yes I did tell you that I didn't have a good reason for voting for Combine at the time. What does it matter? Combine turned out to be mafia so my vote was justified regardless of it's motivations. My method may not have been ideal, but you can't argue with the results.

Unless you're mafia of course...

[thatmariolover]

Slightly off-topic but I'm watching A New Hope in 1080p for the first time right now, so awesome.

[Swan]

Sorry about missing the last round.

I shall try to be around for this full one.



!vote BaB

[Nighthawk]

it's getting late and I have to sleep... so without thinking much on it

!vote jeepnut

[BreakABone]

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[Swan]

After reading through the last few threads and actually thinking about it

!retract BaB

That was just so I could have a vote and not be kicked out. I don't think Dylflon is mafia. Seeing as how it doesn't look the vote will go his way today he will probably be killed by them now.


As for Jeepnut, he is fishy. He changed his vote in the last round half an hour before the end of the last round. The votes between Combine and Ric were tied so this one sent him over the top. It was a smart move to make him look innocent and help build up alliances with the truly good people. Maybe even getting the Vigilante to reveal himself.

Not worded very well but makes sense in my head.

!Vote Jeepnut

[Bond]

Standings:

Jeepnut - 4
BreakABone - 3
Dylflon - 1
Swan - 1
BlueFire - 1
thatmariolover - 1

Two players have yet to vote. Polls close in about 2.5 hours.

[BreakABone]

I know Dylflon hasn't vote.
Who's the other person that hasn't cast a vote?

!Edit~
Okay so it seems only Dylflon needs to vote.
Bluefire/Vamp have retracted votes, but haven't re-voted.

[BlueFire]

That puts the vote count at:
Jeepnut- 4
BaB- 3
Dylflon- 1
Swan- 1
Bluefire- 1
thatmariolover-1

I'm still refraining from voting now, mostly because this round has turned into a face off between jeepnut and BaB.

Angrist, I'm not sure why you've chosen to vote for me. I'd like to hear your reasoning. If you are pointing towards my indecisiveness, I'll acknowledge that. I just like being careful with my vote.

However, I find you to be suspicious. As I look at the voting record: we both voted for manasecret (since he opted to be killed anyway) in the first round, but in the second round, you voted for ric (along with a tiny mob) and you cast a vote for dylflon before setting your attention to me. Maybe I'm foolishly trusting dylflon, but I was sure that Ric was not mafia and I'm almost sure dylflon is not mafia. Based on your voting record, doesn't that make you look suspicious? :ohreilly:

[Vampyr]

Seeing as how Jeepnut helped kill combine, I'm going to have to vote for the only other person who stands a chance of getting killed,

!vote BaB

I still say we kill Dylflon though, if people will go that way. I think killing him would reveal the most information about Jeepnut and Break-a-Bone.

[jeepnut]

Current vote tally:

BreakaBone: 4
jeepnut: 4
Dylflon: 1
Swan: 1
BlueFire: 1
ThatMarioLover: 1

[jeepnut]

Alright, so just in case I don't survive this round, I'm letting everyone know my suspicions.

Swan - Went out of his way to concoct a theory where me voting off Combine makes sense.

BaBs - Obviously

BlueFire - Voted for BaBs last round when he claimed to be siding with Ric and now seems to be reluctant choose.

tornadothrasher - Has been keeping a low profile. What little he has contributed has been presented without much explanation.

Nighthawk - To a much lesser degree. I'm not sure if he's hiding behind his inability to contribute more, but obviously, I feel he's reached the wrong conclusion.

[Vampyr]

I feel very indifferent to who dies, as long as it's BaB, Dyl, or Jeepnut. I think any one of these would narrow down who to kill next time considerably.

[Dylflon]

!vote Jeepnut

[Teuthida]

It would be nice if more people gave reasons for voting the way they do. Dylflon, you voted for Ric much the same way last round and he was a goodie who ended up dead....by the vigilante yes, but you tied the vote once again after jeepnut pushed it over to Combine.

And Nighthawk...well, he's tired. I dunno. Just bothers me some when people vote for those that are close in vote number without giving a reason why.

[jeepnut]

!vote Jeepnut

Late vote Dylflon. Obviously though, my faith in you was misplaced. Not sure why you decide to try to kill me after I save your life.

EDIT: Whoops. Didn't realize this round is ending an hour later. Care to explain your vote Dylflon?

[BreakABone]

Late vote Dylflon. Obviously though, my faith in you was misplaced. Not sure why you decide to try to kill me after I save your life.

EDIT: Whoops. Didn't realize this round is ending an hour later. Care to explain your vote Dylflon?

When did you "save" his life exactly? :confused:

[Teuthida]

Just so I don't look like an @$$ if jeepnut turns out to be a baddie...the only way I can figure him to be part of the mafia is if they all planned for Combine to sacrifice himself to lower the suspicions of those who voted for him after it's revealed he was a baddie...which would then mean that most of those who voted for him last round are baddies. But I feel this is highly unlikely though being as risky a move as it is.

[Fyacin]

Really Dylf, why vote for Jeepnut? Unless you have some seer infor we don't?

[jeepnut]

When did you "save" his life exactly? :confused:

This round. I convinced people that he should stay one more round when the mob vote was going after him.

[jeepnut]

Really Dylf, why vote for Jeepnut? Unless you have some seer infor we don't?

Who knows? He won't tell any of us what he supposedly found out.

[Vampyr]

!retract BaB

!vote Dylflon

[Vampyr]

There's still time to save this mess.

[jeepnut]

!retract BaB

!vote Dylflon


That makes no sense.

[BlueFire]

!vote Angrist

...for the reasoning I've provided earlier.

[Dylflon]

I'm voting for Jeepnut of BaB because of something Typhoid said while he was still in the game.

But I'm apprehensive now.

You guys have a couple minutes to tell me why I need to change my vote.

[jeepnut]

There's still time to save this mess.

Well, I could change my vote and hope the others do too to kill off Dylflon, but my death would probably better serve the town by proving BaBs to be an enemy.

[Fyacin]

Because Jeepnut voted for the mafia for the tie. Unless it's a very elaborate trick, there is no way Jeepnut would be mafia.

[jeepnut]

I'm voting for Jeepnut of BaB because of something Typhoid said while he was still in the game.

But I'm apprehensive now.

You guys have a couple minutes to tell me why I need to change my vote.

If you vote me out, you have no chance of surviving because everyone will turn on you once it becomes obvious I'm a good guy.

[The Germanator]

Jesus, this is a clusterfuck. I'm freakin' Yoda and I can't figure this shit out. Of course confusion is good for the bad guys, so that sucks.

[Dylflon]

!retract Jeepnut

!vote BaB

I do very sincerely find Jeepnut suspicious.

It's in someone else's hands to break this tie now.

[BreakABone]

So wait, you find Jeepnut suspicious so you vote for me?

This is by far the most interesting round of Mafia ever. :lol:

[Dylflon]

So wait, you find Jeepnut suspicious so you vote for me?

This is by far the most interesting round of Mafia ever. :lol:

I'm suspicious of you too though. But I think your death will give us more clues than Jeepnut's would.

[jeepnut]

So wait, you find Jeepnut suspicious so you vote for me?

This is by far the most interesting round of Mafia ever. :lol:

Most likely, he decided to make it so the decision is left up to chance.

[Dylflon]

Most likely, he decided to make it so the decision is left up to chance.

I'm actually expecting Vampyr to change his vote back to BaB. If he can react in time.

[Vampyr]

Fine, last minute desperation force flinging the lightsaber attempt:

!retract Dylflon

!vote BaB

[The Germanator]

I kind of want to change my vote now just for fun.

!retract BaB

!vote jeepnut

!retract jeepnut

!vote Breakabone

Heheh. Should be fun messing with Bond

[Dylflon]

I kind of want to change my vote now just for fun.

!retract BaB

!vote jeepnut

!retract jeepnut

!vote Breakabone

Heheh. Should be fun messing with Bond

You're crafty.

[BreakABone]

Whatever the results that was an interesting 15 mins.

[Bond]

Standings:

BreakABone - 5
Jeepnut - 4
Dylflon - 1
Swan - 1
BlueFire - 1
thatmariolover - 1
Angrist - 1

[Bond]

This is going to take me a while. Bear with me.