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Typhoid
05-15-2009, 05:06 PM
Badger:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~adamadam/rasterbations/Badger%20Source.jpg



Crab:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EQ1brq4nbEQ/Rmn7jvQ5TAI/AAAAAAAAATU/g_rGFeG-M10/s320/KingCrabLegs.jpg

Ric
05-16-2009, 08:59 AM
Once again I am a cancerian, so I am going with the crab. Did you know there is one species of crab that lives on land and, apart from human beings, are the only creatures on the planet that can open and eat coconuts.

Come on Crab - Pincer that stupid badger to deadness...

Vampyr
05-16-2009, 07:42 PM
Better pictures:

http://blog.rifftrax.com/wp-content/photos/coconut_crab.jpg

vs.

http://www.sullivanet.com/redwall/encyc/scans/tribes/brocktree.jpg

Typhoid
05-16-2009, 09:23 PM
Zatchy-Boy, I used both of those pictures for earlier matches with each of them.
I'm trying not to use the same picture twice.

Ric
05-18-2009, 06:51 PM
I think you are being bias toward the badger by using the picture of crab meat on a plate, so to make up for it, go crab...

http://entertheoctopus.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/coconut-crab-3.jpg

Typhoid
05-19-2009, 06:02 AM
How would that make it biased to the badger?
Crab meat is fucking delicious.

Typhoid
05-19-2009, 05:50 PM
Since this ended up in a tie: I will give this one an extra day.

Whoever makes the most convincing argument of why one animal should win (or the other should lose) and can sway me, shall win.

You have until the end of the day.
If nobody posts, I'll flip a coin.

Ric
05-19-2009, 06:06 PM
Crab should win.

The crab is both a diverse and highly adaptive species. They come in a multitude of shapes, sizes and colours, so adaptive are crabs that they have come to inhabit all of the oceans of the world.

Crabs are also of an ancient genus, the fossile record shows they were around in highly evolved, land dwelling states as far back as the Cretaceous Period, some 65 million to 130 million years ago. One of the oldest and most recently discovered examples being estimated to be at least 94 million years old. The following link is an interesting read. http://record.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/1739.html

I will for now hold my argument in the support of the crab. Would anyone else like to contribute? :)

EDIT: Compare this with my earlier picture.
http://record.wustl.edu/pub/libs/images/usr/crab.jpg

Professor S
05-19-2009, 06:25 PM
Age and adaptability are decent arguments, but not too useful in a fight.

The behavior of badgers differs by family, but all shelter underground, living in burrows called setts. Some are solitary, moving from home to home, while others are known to form clans. Clan size is variable from 2 to 15. Badgers are fierce animals and will protect themselves and their young at all costs. Badgers are capable of fighting off much larger animals such as wolves, coyotes and bears. Badgers can run or gallop at up to 25-30 km per hour for short periods of time.
North American Badgers (Taxidea taxus) and Coyotes (Canis latrans) have been seen hunting together, in a cooperative fashion.[3]

British forces were said to have released man-eating badgers in the vicinity of Basra, Iraq, to kill terrorists following the 2003 coalition invasion.[23]

Thats right... BADGERS OF MASS DESTRUCTION

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And they have laser eyes...
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Ric
05-19-2009, 06:30 PM
I just found a much older example of an ancient crab which has remained pretty much unchanged for some 445 million years.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2008/02/080207135801-large.jpg

For a species to have been around for so long... it is astounding. The history of man is but the blink of an eye. They will probably still be around long after we are gone.

Source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080207135801.htm

EDIT: didn't get that one in, in time ;)

Typhoid
05-19-2009, 06:34 PM
So far it's close, on the grounds of the Badger hunting with wolves, and having lasers for eyes - and the crab being extremely old and a survivalist.

Teuthida
05-19-2009, 06:40 PM
It's hard to take the toughness of a badger seriously when you consider their mortal enemy bred to flush them out of their burrows:

http://blog.rifftrax.com/wp-content/photos/weiner_costume.jpg

Although that honey badger is pretty badass. Looks like a wolverine. Perhaps should be more specific in the species for the future polls like with the emperor penguin.

I voted for badgers for their catching song.

Professor S
05-19-2009, 06:40 PM
Final argument: We eat crabs. We don't fuck with badgers.

Professor S
05-19-2009, 06:41 PM
It's hard to take the toughness of a badger seriously when you consider their mortal enemy bred to flush them out of their burrows.

http://blog.rifftrax.com/wp-content/photos/weiner_costume.jpg

You're thinking groundhogs, dammit! EDIT: Nope, they flushed out badgers, but pussy European badgers.

And for the record, I use the African Honey Badger as my horse in this race. It would eat a weinerdog.

Typhoid
05-19-2009, 06:42 PM
Well, crab is rather delicious.

Professor S
05-19-2009, 06:43 PM
And if you flip them over or get behind them, or to the side, they are screwed. Easy to catch, easy to kill.

Teuthida
05-19-2009, 06:50 PM
A single crab can destroy a city.

http://roberthood.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/_incredible_giant_crab_redux_by_vegasmike.jpg


And invite itself to dinner without telling you:

http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Amazing/giant-crab.jpg

Ric
05-19-2009, 06:50 PM
The crab would easily win in a fight. For a start the badger would drown first ;)

If we were to go by sheer weight in numbers then the crabs would have it billions to one. There are at least 4,500 species of crabs in the world. All of them vs all the badgers? The badgers would get owned!
There are even more crabs in the world than there are people.

The crab even has it's own star constellation in it's image. The constellation of cancer. In fact ther is a five planet solar system in this constellation mexicanskies.com/constellations/cancer.htm and it has been gazed upon by philosophers, astronomers and historians for for millennia. Our planet even has it's own tropic named after this, The Tropic Of Cancer. Thats north of the equator :) Thats another example of how brilliant crabs are and how much influance they truly hold.

EDIT: Oh and ftr we dont eat badgers because they carry bovine tuberculosis... or however you spell it ;) We shoot them instead so they dont infect cattle.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/146476663_cffd11197b.jpg?v=0

Would you sunbathe here?

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EDIT 2 More

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Typhoid
05-19-2009, 06:56 PM
Crab is in the lead for taking out cities and owning a constellation.


Badger, things are looking slim.

Professor S
05-19-2009, 07:20 PM
Hmmm, I didn't take water into account, and that does make up most oft eh earth's surface.

I concede to the crab.

Ric
05-19-2009, 07:24 PM
I concede to the crab.

YES!!

Just when I was getting my crab army ready

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EDIT: it has gone midnight and is officially wednesday where I am, UK GMT ;) I already stayed up late because of this thread :lol: So in my mind the crab has already won. WOO, go crab!

KillerGremlin
05-19-2009, 08:04 PM
I'm confused, the poll is a tie...so isn't it a tie still?

How can the crab win if this is a true vote?

EDIT: I voted for the crab by the way, not knockin' on the good thing we have going here...just sayin..

Fyacin
05-19-2009, 09:32 PM
Who is voting for badger? Badger is lame, crabs have armor built into their genetic code. They grow their own armor. Actually turtle vs. crab would be a good one.

Typhoid
05-19-2009, 09:36 PM
I'm confused, the poll is a tie...so isn't it a tie still?

How can the crab win if this is a true vote?



The crab hasn't won yet, has it?

And yes, technically the poll is still a tie.
Until - as I said - tonight, when the tie shall be broken by whichever side makes the best argument.


You see, KG - in a fictional battle based on taste/overall girth/relative age and how many stars it has, I am the tie breaker.

KillerGremlin
05-19-2009, 10:36 PM
The crab hasn't won yet, has it?

And yes, technically the poll is still a tie.
Until - as I said - tonight, when the tie shall be broken by whichever side makes the best argument.


You see, KG - in a fictional battle based on taste/overall girth/relative age and how many stars it has, I am the tie breaker.

I figured there would be a better tie breaker system in place than just dictatorship control, eh Sada...Typhoid. :D

I guess I'd be more upset if I voted Badger.

ALL HAIL THE CRAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

Typhoid
05-19-2009, 11:27 PM
Ah, but you see - dictatorship would be me just picking one at random.
This is more of a Demonochratic system.

Fox 6
05-20-2009, 12:25 AM
Crabs is an STD that makes me laugh at the silly name



WIN!

Ric
05-20-2009, 11:09 AM
Ok when I went to sleep it was still Tuesday in the US even though it was Wednesday here. Now it is definately wednesday in the U.S and no further argument has been put up for the badger.

So by the power not vested in me I declare the winner to be the CRAB ;)

Typhoid, over to you...

*looks at Typhoid expectantly*

Typhoid
05-20-2009, 03:47 PM
Ok when I went to sleep it was still Tuesday in the US even though it was Wednesday here. Now it is definately wednesday in the U.S and no further argument has been put up for the badger.

Well that's clearly because I'm not in the U.S.




Anyways, considering everyong conceded to it, because it can destroy cities, infect your pubic hair, tastes delicious with butter, and has a cluster of stars in it's name and relative image, I declare the Crab the winner.

Fyacin
05-21-2009, 12:35 AM
genetic armor

Ric
05-21-2009, 12:52 PM
Well that's clearly because I'm not in the U.S.

So you aren't. I just google mapped Kiev, you are in the Ukrain right? How many hours ahead of GMT is that? I know Berlin is only 1 hour ahead so I am thinking it cant be more than 2 :unsure:


Anyways, considering everyong conceded to it, because it can destroy cities, infect your pubic hair, tastes delicious with butter, and has a cluster of stars in it's name and relative image, I declare the Crab the winner.

WOO HOO!!!!

Now... just got to casterate that squirrel :lol:

Typhoid
05-21-2009, 03:57 PM
I'm actually in Vancouver.

Ric
05-21-2009, 04:05 PM
I'm actually in Vancouver.

Oh, so canada then??? 7+ hours behind? Only just canada though, you could like.. fart and hit the U.S... I wouldnt though, they might start a war on you :lol:

Why does your location say Kiev? Did you go there?

Typhoid
05-21-2009, 04:13 PM
Yeah - 6 or so hours from Seattle.

No, never been.
Way back when, my mom's family was from there.