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BreakABone

10-02-2008, 02:02 AM

So Nintendo had a conference in Japan today and soon to be followed by a USA one later on in the day.

The other thread has the info on the DS stuff, but they also announced some Wii stuff. More so than they did at e3... take that as you will.

One thing they did hit on is re-making the old.

They will be re-releasing Pikmin and Jungle Beat as Wii appeal titles or something. I'm not sure if these are the original games with Wii controls tacked on or just re-release, but I think it's a waste. Especially in the case of Jungle beat in which I think Wii-controls would make it worse.

On the other end of the spectrum, they announced a handful of new games including:
Punch-Out
http://www.benzale.com/images/punchout3_1.JPG
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Artadius/Punchout.png
Sin and Punishment 2 (I know a certain Gekko who would be excited)
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh119/morningbus/sin.jpg
Tale of God Knows what at this point
Another Code Wii
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh119/morningbus/tm.jpg
And Samurai Warriors 3?

Angrist

10-02-2008, 03:42 AM

IGN's coverage: http://wii.ign.com/articles/915/915504p1.html

I'm trying to find Pikmin 2 for the Cube, but it's expensive because it's so rare (because it didn't sell that well). If they remake it and sell it cheap for the Wii, I could get that... But we also want Pikmin 3!!!!

mickydaniels

10-02-2008, 09:17 AM

Sin & Punishment 2? :D

And I'm not really interested in this new Punch-Out if it will have motion controls. I'm pretty sure it'll be too much like Wii Boxing.

Angrist

10-02-2008, 10:13 AM

But it would be great if it used WiiMotionPlus. Imagine holding 2 Wiimotes+...

BreakABone

10-02-2008, 10:45 AM

mickydaniels

10-02-2008, 12:04 PM

But it would be great if it used WiiMotionPlus. Imagine holding 2 Wiimotes+...

uggghhhh...no
Please, no more peripherals. Just make the thing work with what's available.

Dyne

10-02-2008, 12:21 PM

Oh wow. This is fantastical. I'm loving it!

Sin and Punishment 2 puts the nail in the hater coffin. There's no way it could be anything other than hardcore. :D

That video reminded me of the good old days at the beginning of the gamecube. :D

manasecret

10-02-2008, 12:23 PM

uggghhhh...no
Please, no more peripherals. Just make the thing work with what's available.

Nah. If the videos that show what that new Motion+ can do actually hold up, then I'd much rather have a PunchOut with those than with just the regular WiiMote.

I understand the frustration with peripherals. I haven't bought any besides one of the classic controllers, the rest I've seen have been complete gimmicks, and that's by Wii standards. The new motion peripheral, on the other hand, actually looks useful. Argue what you will about the Wii should have been able to do it from the beginning, it's still a vast improvement.

BreakABone

10-02-2008, 12:50 PM

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2008fall/presen/09.html

Videos of the Pikmin/Jungle Beat Wii-lease.

I actually look forward to Pikmin wii-make though Pikmin 3 would have been nice.

Angrist

10-02-2008, 04:32 PM

I can't imagine Jungle Beat being fun without the bongos. I hope the game still supports those.
Please, no more peripherals. Just make the thing work with what's available.Like manasecret kind of said, that's not possible. The technology they use for WiiMotionPlus simply wasn't available (or cheap enough) at the launch of the Wii.

The Wiimotes are limited, they just can't do everything you want them to. You need Motion+ for that. And when you have that, it should work perfectly.

Null

10-02-2008, 05:05 PM

Nah. If the videos that show what that new Motion+ can do actually hold up, then I'd much rather have a PunchOut with those than with just the regular WiiMote.

I understand the frustration with peripherals. I haven't bought any besides one of the classic controllers, the rest I've seen have been complete gimmicks, and that's by Wii standards. The new motion peripheral, on the other hand, actually looks useful. Argue what you will about the Wii should have been able to do it from the beginning, it's still a vast improvement.

i'd rather it just let you use the wimote sideways or classic controller... give it an option to use motion if people want it. but just like mario kart, i prefer classic controls.

mickydaniels

10-02-2008, 06:03 PM

Like manasecret kind of said, that's not possible. The technology they use for WiiMotionPlus simply wasn't available (or cheap enough) at the launch of the Wii.

The Wiimotes are limited, they just can't do everything you want them to. You need Motion+ for that. And when you have that, it should work perfectly.

Or maybe, they just didn't think enough/ test enough.

Professor S

10-02-2008, 06:19 PM

The thread should be called

"What's Old is Nintendo Trying to Make Everything Old New"

BreakABone

10-02-2008, 06:43 PM

The thread should be called

"What's Old is Nintendo Trying to Make Everything Old New"

For once that doesn't actually work for Nintendo.
They announced 2-3 new IPs.
While there are sequels, Sin and Punishment isn't exactly their bread and butter for go to sequels and there hasn't been a Punch-Out since the SNES.

Sin and Punishment 2
Oddly doesn't show co-op, which I hope is online.. and better not be dropped
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BreakABone

10-02-2008, 11:12 PM

Angrist

10-03-2008, 02:56 AM

S&P2 looks awesome. They just need to give them real shadows.

mickydaniels

10-03-2008, 08:25 AM

Sin and Punishment 2
Oddly doesn't show co-op, which I hope is online.. and better not be dropped

What for? Unless someone is only controlling the crosshairs: bad idea.

Dyne

10-03-2008, 12:49 PM

Holy shit, Next Level Games is doing the new Punchout? Amazing! They're three blocks away from me! I want to go visit them.

Also, S&P2 looks awesome, but why is the main character a little kid?

BreakABone

02-26-2009, 11:45 AM

So we got some dates and stuff for the games now.

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=17588

New Play Control! Pikmin™ - March 9
New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis™ - March 9
Excitebots: Trick Racing - April 20
New Play Control! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat - May 4
Punch-Out!! - May 18

Excitebots™: Trick Racing has elements that make it one of the more unique racing games on the market. It launches April 20 and lets everyone in the family use the Wii Wheel™ accessory in unique and changing environments, play fun minigames and perform crazy tricks in a game that builds on the Excitebike™ and Excite Truck™ franchises.

Donkey Kong® Jungle Beat™, originally made for the Nintendo GameCube™ system, launches May 4 with newly added motion controls. It's the latest in Nintendo's New Play Control! series of games.

Punch-Out!!™ launches May 18 and brings back all of the fun of the beloved, classic NES® game that thrilled players in the early 1990s. Boxers battle as iconic hero Little Mac as they fight their way through a cast of new and familiar boxing opponents on their quest to win the coveted WVBA (World Video Boxing Association) Championship Belt.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg181/xblah/other/punchout.jpg

Typhoid

02-26-2009, 03:32 PM

I really really hope Punch Out is done well.

Angrist

02-27-2009, 09:23 AM

That description makes it sound like Little Mac is the only playable character...

capablemachine

03-05-2009, 12:58 AM

I think i've just given up on gaming.

BreakABone

03-05-2009, 02:14 AM

I really really hope Punch Out is done well.

I don't know what this means for the game, but it can be played NES style as well as with motion controls.

Dyne

03-05-2009, 07:29 AM

I really really hope Punch Out is done well.

It's coming from the best possible game studio. Remember how knockdowns were the pillar of Mario Strikers gameplay? These are the same guys making this game. I just know that it's going to rock.