June NPD: Snake Wins

[BreakABone]

The Ps3 has finally had a month where it has curb stomped the 360. Doubling sales. The Wii continues to dominate however and is now the official leader in North America.

Software
1. PS3 Metal Gear Solid 4, Konami, 6/08—774.6K
2. NDS Guitar Hero On Tour, Activision, 6/08—422.3K
3. 360 Ninja Gaiden II, Microsoft, 6/08—372.7K
4. Wii Fit with Balance Board, NOA, 5/08—372.7K
5. Wii Play with Remote, NOA, 2/07—359.1K
6. 360 Battlefield: Bad Company, EA, 6/08—346.8K
7. Wii Mario Kart with Wheel, NOA, 4/08—322.4K
8. Wii LEGO Indiana Jones, LucasArts, 6/08—294.5K
9. NDS LEGO Indiana Jones, LucasArts, 6/08—267.8K
10. PS2 LEGO Indiana Jones, LucasArts, 6/08—260.3K

Hardware:
The Wii sold 666.7K units in June 2008, the NPD stats for the month reveal, compared to 405.5K for the PS3 and 219.8K for the Xbox 360. The Nintendo DS sold 783K units for the month, while the PSP mustered sales of 337.4K.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/npd-wii-overtakes-360-us

[Dyne]

Wow, Wii Fit outsold Wii Play. How'd they manage that?

[Bond]

I wonder how much longer Nintendo will be classified as a videogame company. It's clear they've differentiated themselves out of the market in which Sony and Microsoft compete. Perhaps "Toys & Entertainment?"

[BreakABone]

I wonder how much longer Nintendo will be classified as a videogame company. It's clear they've differentiated themselves out of the market in which Sony and Microsoft compete. Perhaps "Toys & Entertainment?"

Argh, I hate this line of thinking.
I think people are just trying to get this through so that it won't make the Ps3/360 performance seem as bad.

Especially the 360 which month after month is losing the ability to say it is the platform where 3rd party games sell.

Hell 4 of the games are for Wii and 6 are from Nintendo consoles.

It kills both competitors in console sales.

And two of the Wii games are actual games. And another is just a mini-game compilation.

There e3 showing was lukewarm at best, but I don't think we will be subjected to Wii whatever for the rest of this gen.

[DeathsHand]

You heard it here first, folks: 50% of the top-selling Wii titles are actual games.

[Bond]

Argh, I hate this line of thinking.
I think people are just trying to get this through so that it won't make the Ps3/360 performance seem as bad.
I think you only hate it because you aren't thinking of the videogame industry objectively as a business industry. Nintendo has clearly differentiated their product away from the market in which Sony and Microsoft are competing. If this was any other industry I'm sure it would be blatantly obvious.

Look at the price discrepancies of the consoles. Do you think Porsche competes with Honda? No. They're both vehicle companies, but they sell price differentiated products to different target audiences. Therefore, not competitors.

[manasecret]

I think you only hate it because you aren't thinking of the videogame industry objectively as a business industry. Nintendo has clearly differentiated their product away from the market in which Sony and Microsoft are competing. If this was any other industry I'm sure it would be blatantly obvious.

Look at the price discrepancies of the consoles. Do you think Porsche competes with Honda? No. They're both vehicle companies, but they sell price differentiated products to different target audiences. Therefore, not competitors.

I think the difference is hardly that drastic. Were people not playing casual games on Playstation and Playstation 2? Neither of which were the superior consoles (hardware-wise) of their time.

[BreakABone]

I think you only hate it because you aren't thinking of the videogame industry objectively as a business industry. Nintendo has clearly differentiated their product away from the market in which Sony and Microsoft are competing. If this was any other industry I'm sure it would be blatantly obvious.

I don't think that is 100% true.
The Wii is not too different from the PS3/360. Sure it is not as powerful but the core of the console is pretty much the same.
They differientated themselves by the method of control.
Is an ATM not an ATM anymore because it uses touch screen instead of a numeric pad?
And what is wrong with making yourself different?

Look at the price discrepancies of the consoles. Do you think Porsche competes with Honda? No. They're both vehicle companies, but they sell price differentiated products to different target audiences. Therefore, not competitors.
Price isn't a problem with Nintendo. They have yet to change their price take it up with the other two. Even if that was the case (the 360 is now only 50 bucks more than the Wii for a decent SKU), I don't think the Ps3 or 360 would have sold any better. Maybe the Ps3, but the 360 has seemed to reached the saturation point of its market.

And again, Nintendo games sell to the same audience as any other game. And that's people who enjoy it.

I mean if you want to see the importance of casuals, did you notice that neither GTA IV SKUs are on this month. Two months and GTA is off the list? That really has to be a record for the series. And I think its because without the casual audience that enjoyed it on the Ps2 it has sold to the pretty set hardcore gamers. Which would also explain why there was no hardware bump with its release.

If the Wii isn't effecting that, I would love to see a better explanation.

[BreakABone]

The Top 20 is in. And it seems to paint a similar picture.

http://www.dabbledoo.com/ee/images/uploads/gamertell/npd_chart_june2008.jpg

[Perfect Stu]

very nice to see a MGS game move a lot of units and a lot of PS3's. PS3 has to be beating the 360 in the US in 2008 by a few hundred thousand units if my esitmation is somewhat accurate.

[Dyne]

Wow, Rock Band Wii has some legs.

[gekko]

Look at the price discrepancies of the consoles. Do you think Porsche competes with Honda? No. They're both vehicle companies, but they sell price differentiated products to different target audiences. Therefore, not competitors.

By your (flawed) logic, they both are not automobile companies. I think you're far too narrow-minded and can't accept that video games serve a much broader purpose than as demos for your home theater system.

[BreakABone]

Wow, Rock Band Wii has some legs.

Define legs?
It only came out in June so first month...

[Jonbo298]

Ok, I'm convinced the Wii crowd are a bunch of gullible people even though it was already confirmed so. Rock Band Wii...while Rock Band is great and all, it's the gimped PS2 version. I'm spoiled by RB on the 360 but I guess people are willing to buy that version.

[manasecret]

Gullible people for buying a good game for the only console they probably have? Huh?

[BreakABone]

Ok, I'm convinced the Wii crowd are a bunch of gullible people even though it was already confirmed so. Rock Band Wii...while Rock Band is great and all, it's the gimped PS2 version. I'm spoiled by RB on the 360 but I guess people are willing to buy that version.

It's not really gullible.
At this point, more people own Wiis than 360s and Ps3s and I guess they wanted the game.
Same reason Guitar Hero 3 sold best on Wii.
Also unlike the other two, Wii is seen as a social console.

Some more random numbers as stolen from NeoGAF.

YTD numbers
Wii - 3,482,000
DS - 3,187,000
PS3 - 1,608,000
PSP - 1,482,000
360 - 1,354,000

MGS4 versus series performance
MGS1 2.43 mln
MGS2 2.0 mln
MGS3 1.1 mln

Other:
Wii Play passes 6 million sold in US.

Top First Month Sales in US, this gen:
1. Halo 3 - 3.3 million
2. SSBB - 2.7 million
3. GTA 4 360 - 1.85 million
4. CoD 4 360 - 1.57 million
5. Galaxy - 1.12 million
6. MK Wii - 1.12 million
7. Gears - 1.0 million
8. GTA IV PS3 - 1.0 million
9. Assassin's Creed 360 - 0.98 million
10. Madden NFL 08 360 - 0.89 million
11. MGS4 - 0.77 million
12. R6 Vegas 2 360 - 0.75 million
13. Wii Fit - 0.68 million
14. Army of Two 360 - 0.60 million
15. Madden NFL 07 360 - 0.57 million

And Hardware LTD
Hardware LTD:
PS2: ~42.4 million
NDS: ~20.8 million
PSP: ~12.0 million
Wii: ~10.9 million
360: ~10.5 million
PS3: ~4.9 million

[Jonbo298]

Gullible people for buying a good game for the only console they probably have? Huh?

I didn't say it was a bad game. If it is their only console, I can see why. Though I'm "spoiled" by the 360 so anything ported from it just never appeals due to the unfortunate effect that the Wii is less powerful. I just wish they would have left at least some of the more major parts in.

Though putting something still pretty good on the Wii and selling well helps them make RB2's instruments better and better :p

[BreakABone]

Top 10 by Console.

Top 10 Wii Titles

1. Wii Fit
2. Wii Play w/ Remote
3. Mario Kart
4. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
5. Rock Band
6. Super Smash Bros: Brawl
7. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith*
8. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
9. Game Party
10. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games
To sell on the Wii you either need to have Mario, Wii or be a music game. So I can't wait for Wii Super Mario Marching Band

Top 10 Xbox 360 Titles

1. Ninja Gaiden II
2. Battlefield: Bad Company*
3. Grand Theft Auto IV*
4. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith*
5. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
6. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare*
7. Dragonball Z: Burst Limit
8. Grid
9. Rock Band*
10. Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Conspiracy
You hit the variety jackpot with the 360 it seems. Though old is the new new.

Top 10 PS3 Titles

1. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
2. Grand Theft Auto IV*
3. Battlefield: Bad Company*
4. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
5. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare*
6. Dragonball Z: Burst Limit
7. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith*
8. Grid
9. Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Conspiracy
10. Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
This looks awfully similar to another list...

Top 10 PS2 Titles

1. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
2. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith*
3. The Incredible Hulk
4. Rock Band*
5. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock*
6. Kung Fu Panda
7. Iron Man
8. God of War II
9. Grand THeft Auto: San Andreas
10. NASCAR 09

Top 10 NDS Titles

1. Guitar Hero: On Tour
2. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
3. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games
4. New Super Mario Bros
5. Mario Kart
6. Kung Fu Panda
7. Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day
8. Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
9. Mario Party
10. Imagine: Babyz