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KillerGremlin
07-10-2008, 11:09 AM
Is it just me, or is it turning out that this whole Obama thing has been all smoke and mirrors...the guy did an A+ job deliviering his "change in America" bullshit, and now that he's the deomcratic candidate his shit is really starting to stink. This guy doesn't want change...he's just another typical politician, a puppet for our broken two party system. Obama voted for the Patriot Act and now FISA...it's craziness. On that note, I am going to admit that I fell for it. Obama made a believer of me. I kind of wish Hilary won, but that's not good enough. I'm not sure what is good enough because I'm not too keen on politics. But...
I foresee another election between a douche and a turd.
birdman
07-10-2008, 11:29 AM
Should've voted for Ron Paul.
True change will only be a return to the republic that our country once was. A return to the constitution, and a return to liberty.
mickydaniels
07-10-2008, 08:32 PM
This is why I continue to trust no politicians.
Typhoid
07-10-2008, 08:54 PM
I think the flaw is in the 2 party system, and the fact in order to basically be a candidate, you need lots, and lots of money.
People are so torn over "Is he a Republican? I cant vote for him, I'm a Democrat" that they totally forgo what the person says, just because of what they're labeled as. Who cares if someone's a Republican, Democrat or whatever-other-parties you have in the US, it should only matter on what the person stands for, and what the person wants.
The problem is, in the US, they're all puppets. That's why they're selected. They're not chosen because they're the most outstanding and smartest people, it's because they're the easiest to follow instructions, and they have a dignified background. Image is everything in the US presidential elections. But that's no secret.
I'm obviously not saying the Canadian system is a lot better. But there is less of "What? I cant vote for him, He's from the Bloc/NDP/Liberals/Conservative Party, and I'm a _____" among the general populace.
Our leaders also use god less, minus the Conservatives, than the US leaders do. That bugs me on a seperate level.
I think the US system is highly flawed, and will continue to be highly flawed for the rest of existence. There will be no revolution. No uprisal. Only unfair elections, facades of people reading scripts written by a council of writers, and told what he (or she) should do if they want to keep their term in office. In a system run by money and lies, and with a military not afraid to quell any form of uprisal, it is almost impossible for there to be any sort of public movement to change anything. Because that sort of thing needs to be changed from the inside. And once you're on the inside of the corrupt moneymachine that is the US Government, why would you want to change it? It works for you. You're there. It's tricking people. It's not entrusting them.
I haven't made a pointless, unsensical rant in almost a year, I was due.
Pylon_Trooper
07-10-2008, 09:15 PM
Well, surely he's better than the present lame-duck ape and his administration?
We've just had a refreshing change of government back home in Australia and I think it was the breath of fresh air we needed.
Professor S
07-10-2008, 10:00 PM
Is it just me, or is it turning out that this whole Obama thing has been all smoke and mirrors...the guy did an A+ job deliviering his "change in America" bullshit, and now that he's the deomcratic candidate his shit is really starting to stink. This guy doesn't want change...he's just another typical politician, a puppet for our broken two party system. Obama voted for the Patriot Act and now FISA...it's craziness. On that note, I am going to admit that I fell for it. Obama made a believer of me. I kind of wish Hilary won, but that's not good enough. I'm not sure what is good enough because I'm not too keen on politics. But...
I foresee another election between a douche and a turd.
Quite honestly I've never seen the attraction to Obama. He has spent the better part of a year saying nothing, but doing it with lovely speeches, and changing his stances on issues depending on the crowd he is in front of.
But if it makes you feel better, I think he's a closet communist and is just lying to the American people to get elected.
I think the flaw is in the 2 party system, and the fact in order to basically be a candidate, you need lots, and lots of money.
The two party system is a by-product of the United States having SMD representation as opposed to proportional representation. It's Duverger's law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger's_law), I studied it last semester in one of my PoliSci classes. It's quite interesting.
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