The Dark Knight Thread

[BreakABone]

Yeah there has been a few threads, sure more than enough started by me. But with the movie a little more than a week away and some reviews coming in. I figured we could have an all TDK thread where you ccan discuss latest reviews or nerddom (mostly me I assume)

Like last night as part of the ever growing viral campaign, I went to the City and saw the Batsignal cast upon a building. Where it became a part of the NYC Skyline for the night.

http://i38.tinypic.com/25ho2o9.jpg

Also reviews have been pouring in. And you can keep an eye on the Rotten meter.
Rotten Meter: TDK (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_dark_knight/)
Currently at 100% with 10 reviews in.
Lots of rave reviews comparing it to Godfather II, Heat, Empire Strikes Back.

The score is available online but officially out next week.
At last check, there are 15 commercials something like 5 trailers, the prologue and more on the web. All in all,, about 30 mins of the movie is viewable online. At this point, I would suggest avoiding.

TDK Trailer Thread (http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17995&highlight=dark+knight)

Enter The Knight Contest Thread (http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18385&highlight=dark+knight)

Some Other Thread (http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17387&highlight=dark+knight)

Original Trailer Thread (http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17568&highlight=dark+knight)

Name Announcement and Joker Thread (http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15884&highlight=dark+knight)

[DarkMaster]

Watched the animated Gotham Knight last night. Pretty darn good, I'd love to see another Batman animated series start up with a darker style similar to these short films. Though I am quite disappointed at the lack of behind the scenes material, as the main reason I buy animated films on DVD is to check out each company's different approach to story, animation, etc.

But anyway, got my midnight tickets for the IMAX showing in downtown Ottawa next thursday. And an appropriate Joker-ized desktop, of course.

[Fyacin]

The animated films are on my Netflix queue, and I will probably go to the theater to see the movie. Batman and Joker have always been one of (if not the) my favorite Hero/Villain pair, so I am really psyched.

[KillerGremlin]

I am EXCITED to say the least. I went from being lukewarm to ecstatic after watching that trailer where they show the joker and his henchmen robbing the bank. The film is going to be so dark and gritty. And all the reviews have said that the film has tons of depth and a dark undertone. I'm expecting a film much better than Batman Begins. I've already discussed how I enjoyed Batman Begins, but thought it wasn't a perfect film. Rarely is a sequel better than the original, but much like Spiderman and X-Men, I anticipate that this sequel will blow the first film out of the water. Plus, The Joker is simply one of the most fantastic villains.

Yes...I am officially lost in the hype for this film. And yes, I have officially raised the bar and my expectations. But based on the previews and the reviews, I expect the film to meet and surpass my expectations.

[GameMaster]

Spoiler:

BreakABone downloaded the official soundtrack! The music definitely reveals some stuff that hasn't been released in the trailers. Again, if you don't want the ending for the movie ruined, DO NOT listen to the soundtrack!

[flunkie44]

Batman dies.

[birdman]

Movie of the Forever? It may be.

[manasecret]

What's the release date?

[BreakABone]

What's the release date?

If you don't know, you don't deserve to know.
It means you aren't hyped!

[KillerGremlin]

I watched the Dark Knight trailer.

It moved a little.

I think that means I'm hyped.

[manasecret]

If you don't know, you don't deserve to know.
It means you aren't hyped!

Oh I know. I'm trying to keep this thread informative. I couldn't believe it wasn't in the original post!

Release date is Friday July 18. Midnight showings on Thursday (technically Friday).

[Bube]

Oh I know. I'm trying to keep this thread informative. I couldn't believe it wasn't in the original post!

Release date is Friday July 18. Midnight showings on Thursday (technically Friday).
That's too far away! But it gives me more time to watch Batman Begins :)

I saw the trailer before Hancock last night, and..well..it's got the Batman atmosphere spot on. I think I've become a big Batman fan.

[uber_paddler]

Holy damn I CANNOT wait for this movie!

[Seth]

BaB, how is it like Heat? Is Heat a sequel?
I'm officially stoked for this film.

[GameMaster]

BaB, how is it like Heat? Is Heat a sequel?
I'm officially stoked for this film.

De Niro (The Joker) plays a professional robber who is a calm (crazy) and methodical introvert, while Pacino (Batman) plays a veteran LAPD homicide detective (hero) whose devotion to his job (being Batman) causes him to neglect his personal problems.

[BreakABone]

This movie (while I stoppd posting them after a while) had an awesome if not long viral campaign.

Which culminated in the giving away of free tickets to see it in iMax all over the country (and even parts of Canada)

There is also a cool news segment, which for anyone who saw the prologue would get a kick out of the most recent one.

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[BreakABone]

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Ebert n Roeper review.

[BlueFire]

Oh my god, why?! I want to see this movie :(

[manasecret]

Got a couple imax tickets for Saturday. I. Am. Stoked.

[Ginkasa]

I effin' hate IMAX. Just sayin'. I see no point in seeing a movie in an IMAX theatre...

[Teuthida]

I'll wait for the DVD. With all the viral videos and numerous clips available it feels like I saw the movie already. I'm Batmaned out.

[BreakABone]

I effin' hate IMAX. Just sayin'. I see no point in seeing a movie in an IMAX theatre...
Bigger screen.
Better image quality.
Sound.

In the case of this movie about 20-30 mins that were filmed with imax cameras so will look their best in the imax format.

I'll wait for the DVD. With all the viral videos and numerous clips available it feels like I saw the movie already. I'm Batmaned out.

You will go see in theaters.
Even if Wen and I have to drag you to a midnight show after the concert.:p

[Ginkasa]

Bigger screen.
Better image quality.
Sound.

In the case of this movie about 20-30 mins that were filmed with imax cameras so will look their best in the imax format.



You will go see in theaters.
Even if Wen and I have to drag you to a midnight show after the concert.:p


Maybe I'm just spoiled. At the theatre I used to work at we had a screen that was 70'x30'. That's not as tall as an IMAX, but its as wide as some, and you don't have to suffer through the black bars or edited down movies or anything.

And now I work at a theatre that's all digital, which is better no matter how big your screen is, so...

IMAX is wasted on me...

[manasecret]

Maybe I'm just spoiled. At the theatre I used to work at we had a screen that was 70'x30'. That's not as tall as an IMAX, but its as wide as some, and you don't have to suffer through the black bars or edited down movies or anything.

And now I work at a theatre that's all digital, which is better no matter how big your screen is, so...

Nah, you're wrong there. You get way more detail out of 70 mm film than you will from digital movies for at least the next decade or two.

But most movies that run on imax in regular old movie theaters aren't using 70 mm so the point for the most part is moot. But for a movie like Batman, much of it filmed on 70 mm? Oh buddy I can't wait.

[The Germanator]

Just got tickets for Friday at around 2 PM. Excited!

[Dyne]

Just got my iMax tickets for Sunday at 7:00pm. :D

[DeathsHand]

I like to follow reviews on rottentomatoes.com...
You know... just for kicks.

5 out of the 6 negative reviews it's received so far were from New York publications.
CONSPIRACY!?!??!

...

[DarkMaster]

Holy shit Batman, holy effin shit. I just got back from a advanced screening. I dont even know who I am anymore, except that I'm nothing compared to this movie, and never will be. I can't even watch another movie now because I know it won't be as good as this one. I've got tickets for the IMAX showing this weekend that I bought weeks in advance and I absolutely cannot wait to see it again. I'm actually more excited to go see it again than I was before seeing it for the first time.

Anyways, yeah, guess I hyped it up a bit...go see it

[BreakABone]

I just got back from an advance screening as well. In Imax.

The movie is awesome. even with my level of hype and everything I knew they still managed to surprise me.

And they broke a rule of comic book movies which was nice.

And you have to see the Joker's magic trick. :lolz:

[Ginkasa]

Nah, you're wrong there. You get way more detail out of 70 mm film than you will from digital movies for at least the next decade or two.

But most movies that run on imax in regular old movie theaters aren't using 70 mm so the point for the most part is moot. But for a movie like Batman, much of it filmed on 70 mm? Oh buddy I can't wait.


I've seen movies in IMAX and it was nothing special, at least compared to what I've seen. If you're used to smaller "regular" theatres and the projectionists aren't very good, I'm sure IMAX is amazing. But when you've been able to go to something like the Cine Capri and digital, its not that great.

[BreakABone]

I've seen movies in IMAX and it was nothing special, at least compared to what I've seen. If you're used to smaller "regular" theatres and the projectionists aren't very good, I'm sure IMAX is amazing. But when you've been able to go to something like the Cine Capri and digital, its not that great.

There's a difference in seeing a movie in imax and seeing a movie filmed for imax.

Its like saying you watch DVDs on an HDTV so you don't need Bluray.

Even though it is a few shots you can TELL the difference. Trust me.
And here is a more visual comparison.

http://i37.tinypic.com/fz426r.jpghttp://i34.tinypic.com/do3xqh.jpg

[uber_paddler]

You bastards! I have to wait until tonight for my mind to get blown.

[Ginkasa]

There's a difference in seeing a movie in imax and seeing a movie filmed for imax.

Its like saying you watch DVDs on an HDTV so you don't need Bluray.

Even though it is a few shots you can TELL the difference. Trust me.
And here is a more visual comparison.

http://i37.tinypic.com/fz426r.jpghttp://i34.tinypic.com/do3xqh.jpg



So its just....taller.... Maybe if I have the opportunity I'll check out TDK in IMAX (any excuse to see it again!). But it seems to me like a) its a load of nothing and b) the only something is just to reverse the industry standard and call it better (taller rather than wider).

Oh, and The Dark Knight is flippin' sweet.

[Vampyr]

My mind has indeed been blown. :)

The experience was very surreal. It was like I wasn't even there for the 2.5 hours it ran, instead I was somewhere in Gotham.

Any ideas for who will be the villain in the next movie? The Joker isn't dead, but I doubt they will have someone else reprise the role. Two-Face is seemingly dead, I'm not sure how he could not be, with his body there and all. But then again everyone thought Gordon was dead.

[BreakABone]

The movie is even better the second time around (just because I saw for free doesn't mean not gonna use ticket paid for)

And I don't know, it feels like more than just another comic book movie. It is so solid.

[DarkMaster]

I just remembered a part that sent a chill down my spine.


LOOK AT ME!

[BreakABone]

I just remembered a part that sent a chill down my spine.


LOOK AT ME!

O man that part was...

Actually most of his parts were creepy in a weird way.

The part where Batman drops Sal also makes me cringe

[Vampyr]

The movie is even better the second time around (just because I saw for free doesn't mean not gonna use ticket paid for)

And I don't know, it feels like more than just another comic book movie. It is so solid.

I actually think I'll enjoy it more the second time around as well. Not that I didn't love it the first time, but it's greatness hasn't fully sank in yet.

What is the "Look at Me" part you're talking about? I can't remember off hand the scene you're referring to.

[DarkMaster]

What is the "Look at Me" part you're talking about? I can't remember off hand the scene you're referring to.
During the video that the Joker was filming, the one that appeared on the TV news, he was all normal Joker voice taking to that Batman copy cat, until the guy wouldn't look into the camera. Out of frustation Joker says "Look at me....LOOK AT ME" in a terribly dark voice. After that scene I was waiting for him to talk like that again later in the film, and he got close to it a few times but never quite as frightening.

Maybe we should start up a spoiler thread or something?

[uber_paddler]

Holy. Fuck.

And that's all I have to say about that.

[The Germanator]

Saw it. Loved it. Yup.

[Swan]

Wait, wait.


So the cops knew internal affairs was setting them up the whole time?

[flunkie44]

How many times did BaB orgasm again?

[BlueFire]

Amazing film. :o

[Fox 6]

Saw it. Loved it. Rock.

[DeathsHand]

Here's a fun story...

Right in the middle of the movie, when:...

Joker was chatting in his Jail Cell

The projector cut off and the lights came on...
5 minutes later, the project came back on, but WITH NO SOUND...

We see Joker escape, Rachael (apparently) die, and Dent become Two Face

WITH NO SOUND!!!
I mean, luckily it didn't happen at an important part of the flick...

And we got a free movie pass out of it..

[GameMaster]

Wow, if I see this again, I think I might accidentally memorize the script.

I think its safe to say I'm the official Dark Knight expert. Well, unless someone wants to challenge me by seeing it four times...

We definitely haven't seen the last of Scarecrow, I was so happy when I realized it was him. Expect him to be the main antagonist of the third film.

[Swan]

I still Two Face willl make a return

[BreakABone]

Wow, if I see this again, I think I might accidentally memorize the script.

I think its safe to say I'm the official Dark Knight expert. Well, unless someone wants to challenge me by seeing it four times...


I think I will take you up on that challenge.

Also someone transcribed the closing monologue

Why is he running dad?

Because we have to chase him.

He didn't do anything wrong.

Because he is the hero Gotham deserves but not the one it needs right now.
So we'll hunt him.
Because he can take it.
Because he is not a hero.
He is a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight.

[The Germanator]

I think my favorite part might have been...

Joker: Do you wanna see a magic trick? I'll make this pencil disappear.
Also loved the scene where Joker is walking out of the hospital in the nurses costume...amazing.

[Fox 6]

Totally agree Germy. Loved those parts.

[manasecret]

Tough, tough film. Makes one feel so impotent.

[BreakABone]

Tough, tough film. Makes one feel so impotent.

How does Batman relate to your libido?

Anyhow my favorite part.


Started with the bat logo coming out of the blue flames
Ended with he is The Dark Knight.
Everything in between was just icing.

[Angrist]

Also someone transcribed the closing monologueSpoilers???? :confused:

[Teuthida]

Better than Begins...I'll give it that.

I still can't stand Bale's Batman, but the Joker more than made up for it.

[manasecret]

How does Batman relate to your libido?



Hardy har har. To be clear, I was referring to one of these definitions --

im·po·tent
1. not potent; lacking power or ability.
2. utterly unable (to do something).
3. without force or effectiveness.


Btw, seeing it on imax? No contest. It's so much better.

[Joeiss]

Very cool movie. Right after the movie, I just thought it was okay... but then thinking more of it, I was totally lost in the screenplay for the full 2.5 hours, thinking of nothing else... Very nicely done.


I totally jumped when the fake batman was hung and hit the window.. Definitely was not expecting that.

And I know it is sort of stupid.. but I like the choices that the Joker was making people make. Some movies try to play on villains making people make tough decisions.. but this movie really did a decent job at providing a real human element to it.

[Fox 6]

Saw it a second time, it was fantastic.

[GameMaster]

The Dark Knight is not a sequel to Batman Begins.

This was Joker's movie. Joker WAS the star.

Batman was a minor side character.

[BreakABone]

The Dark Knight is not a sequel to Batman Begins.

This was Joker's movie. Joker WAS the star.

Batman was a minor side character.

That isn't true at all.
This is a true sequel to Begins even down to the tone.

I mean most of this movie in one way or another deals with gotham's fallout over Batman's presence.

As the Joker put it, You've changed things forever. There's no going back.

And batman had more screentime than in Begins.

[Dylflon]

I was disappointed with the Scarecrow cameo.

[KillerGremlin]

I'm waiting till next weekend to see it, I have tickets for the IMAX and I don't want to spoil it by seeing it on a tiny screen in a crowded theater. :D

I'll probably avoid drinking any liquids 5 hours prior to the film so I don't have to pee too, it's a long movie.

[Teuthida]

I spoiled it for myself on a dark blurry 19 inch screen. Felt more like a radio drama.

[KillerGremlin]

This movie has been hyped to the point where I think waiting a week will be better anyway....all I've read on Digg for the past week is how amazing this film is going to be.

I don't doubt that it will be an amazing film, even a 4-star film, but I'd like to view it on my own terms, not with all the hype stuck in my head. But, it was filmed in Chicago and Heath Ledger apparently delivers, so we shall see.

[Vampyr]

Just got done seeing it for the second time. Some new comments:


1. I like how one of the "knives" the Joker had was a potato pealer, and the police officer didn't exactly what to do with it.

2. It probably wasn't him, but one of the people on one of the boats at the end looked just like Cillian Murphy.

3. I bet that the detonators that the people on the boats had at the end actually were to their own bombs. Like Batman said, nothing is ever as it seems with the Joker.

[DeathsHand]

I was disappointed with the Scarecrow cameo.

To me it felt like Christopher Nolan had planned out his entire Jokeriffic Batman sequel before realizing that Scarecrow's story was a bit anti-climactic...
So he tacked on a short scene to shrug him off for good.

[DarkMaster]

Would've like to have seen a vision of the Joker from the perspective of someone under the influence of the Scarecrow's toxin.

[BreakABone]

Would've like to have seen a vision of the Joker from the perspective of someone under the influence of the Scarecrow's toxin.

I was under the impression that the scene would be in the movie. I was disappointed they didn't have any interactions.

Though fun fact, according to the comics the Joker is uneffected by the fear toxin because what can you be afraid of if you are insane?

[Teuthida]

Because what can you be afraid of if you are insane?

Feathers. Especially the tailfeathers of a whooper swan. And if above 70 degrees in temperature...watch out.

[Dyne]

Jesus christ - this film, in IMAX, is an amazing fucking experience. Holy crap.

I don't understand quite how they decided which scenes would be regular size and IMAX, but however they did it, I applaud them. The high definition scenes were to die for, as was the whole movie. Definitely one of my favourites.

As for Heath Ledger's character, it was impeccably done, and worth the wait. He was such a nuanced character, that he even nailed the way such an insane person would sit down.

http://blog.filmjabber.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/heath-ledger-joker-picture.jpg

Also, the lines that referenced how as long as Batman would be there, the Joker would be there - they can't take those back now. Since we only saw Heath's face briefly, do you think they'll get another actor for the Joker with the makeup emulated? Or maybe greenscreen someone's face as they act and put Heath's appearance on it through the magic of computers? (A la Harvey Dent's later appearance? Well, half of it?)

Also, I know I'm a terrible person, but all throughout the movie I kept thinking that I should pick up The Animated Series on Amazon since they're all $17.99 PLUS promotion price. I ended up buying them all just now. It was like.. retrograde advertising. But honestly, it was my first introduction to Batman and my favourite, until this movie series.

[GameMaster]

One of my favorite scenes:

http://i33.tinypic.com/34zfyma.png

They turn the music down and you just see this beautiful moment where he hangs his head out the window like this with the wind blowing against his hair and face and he's just completely immersed in the chaos. And he's in such a peaceful place at this moment. It gave me goosebumps. It was so amazing.

[BreakABone]

Jesus christ - this film, in IMAX, is an amazing fucking experience. Holy crap.

I don't understand quite how they decided which scenes would be regular size and IMAX, but however they did it, I applaud them. The high definition scenes were to die for, as was the whole movie. Definitely one of my favourites.
Well almost all the action scenes were filmed in hi def. As well as any aerial shot. So the beginning, the hong kong jump and the hospital scene were filmed for the splendor. The bank robbery, car chase, climax in the high rise and hong kong were filmed for the action.

As for Heath Ledger's character, it was impeccably done, and worth the wait. He was such a nuanced character, that he even nailed the way such an insane person would sit down.
How do you know how insane folks sit?

Also, the lines that referenced how as long as Batman would be there, the Joker would be there - they can't take those back now. Since we only saw Heath's face briefly, do you think they'll get another actor for the Joker with the makeup emulated?
I think he was talking in the larger sense of the word and not necessarily in the sequel.
Much like the comics or any media, Batman and Joker are the picture perfect definition of arch nemesis. They both want to rid the world of the other, but without the other their world has no meaning.
Interesting comic I read a few weeks back called Going Sane, in which the Joker goes sane and even gets engaged because he believed he killed Batman.

Also, I know I'm a terrible person, but all throughout the movie I kept thinking that I should pick up The Animated Series on Amazon since they're all $17.99 PLUS promotion price. I ended up buying them all just now. It was like.. retrograde advertising. But honestly, it was my first introduction to Batman and my favourite, until this movie series.
Well hopefully you also picked up the animated movies.
And should have owned them already anyhow....

I want your sig.
Maybe you can make me an inverse one with Joker in the foreground and Batman as the shadow.

[Vampyr]

Even though The Dark Knight is a god among movies, I'd like to encourage people to not forget about Hellboy II. It was actually very good, and it's probably suffering by being released a week before The Dark Knight. If you haven't saw it, you should consider it. It's not as good as the Dark Knight (but what is really), but it's very fun with a good plot, and it creates an interesting mythos.

[BreakABone]

The Dark Knight is also the King of the big screen.
After a HUGE opening, it now holds the following box office records:

Opening Day Gross
Opening Weekends
Top 3-Day Grosses
Widest Releases
Widest Opening Releases
Fastest to $100 million
Opening Weekends - July
Opening Weekends - Summer
Yearly Opening Weekends 2008
Sunday Gross

[Dyne]

Jesus christ. That's impossible.

[manasecret]

Anybody nearby want to go see it with me again on imax? I'm desperate to see it again.

[GameMaster]

The Dark Knight is better than PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii.

I want to call this place Dark Knight Tavern

[Jonbo298]

Finally got to see it in IMAX (between work and it being sold out, my first chance was today at 3:40pm as the 7pm and 10:20pm already sold out yet again). Very awesome and something I could see again if I wanted to.

Magic trick was classic :lolz:

[Professor S]

Well I finally saw The Dark Knight last night, and I'm still processing it. Its not like anything I've ever seen before. Whatever is was, it was beyond what I was expecting. Nolan has blown up the genre of comic book movies and I believe raised the expectations of the audience with this film.

The Joker needs to be retired for a while. Heath Ledger's performance was iconic. Not only was he a great Joker, but he was pretty much the sum of everything there is to fear in this world: a danger we cannot hope to fully understand. That is what made him so dangerous and frightening. He should win an Oscar. If he doesn't, its only because the academy didn't want to be viewed as giving him one because he died.

Thats all I can say for right now. I'm still wrapping my head around it. One thing is for sure... every other comic movie director just shook their head and are wondering what the hell they are going to do now...

[Vampyr]

I think Marvel Studios is doing a great job. Marvel taking over the making of their own movies was the best move they've ever made. No, they still don't compare to the Dark Knight, but they're very good.

The Dark Knight just has an unbeatable combination of fantastic actors and a great writer/director. I think Nolan is the greatest writer/director we have living at the moment; anything he touches will inevitably be gold.

And yes, I think Heath has created a truly beautiful abomination with the Joker. We can't understand why he does what he does, but we can ponder it, and that is all the more frightening. His lack of any type of origin also heightens his character. After seeing the movie for the second time, I just sat and thought about what kind of circumstances could have made him what he is. It's also interesting to think about where he could have lived, or what kind of food he ate. It's hard to imagine the Joker sitting down to a meal.

[Jonbo298]

Well, they hint it had at least something to do with how his father treated him but he never went into full detail if that is the only thing that caused him to become so manic.

Another thing I noticed, is that it never rained in the movie. Alot of dark moments obviously but no rain moments which was refreshing.

[Vampyr]

Well, they hint it had at least something to do with how his father treated him but he never went into full detail if that is the only thing that caused him to become so manic.

Another thing I noticed, is that it never rained in the movie. Alot of dark moments obviously but no rain moments which was refreshing.

Yeah, but


I think it was also implied that he was lying about his father, as when he was talking to Rachel and said "Do you want to know how I get these scars" he made up a completely different story that had nothing to do with his father.

[BreakABone]

To quote my favorite Joker-ism ever, and Swan's current MSN name.

"If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it be multiple choice."

The Joker with no set origins or many different origins works because the man is well not all there.

[Jonbo298]

Good point Vamp. I forgot until you mentioned that scene.

[DeathsHand]

The problem I see with retiring the joker... Plotly-speaking...

Joker avoided capture so many times (one person on IMDB said he seemed almost 'too invincible')... Then when he DOES get captured, he has a scheme set up to allow his escape (granted I don't know exactly what that scheme was because our showing of the movie cut off just moments before that scene)...

Then the film basically ends with him getting arrested again (presumably)... And we're to expect that, after all that, he's not going to be able to find a way out again?

I think Nolan and his crew have quite a predicament on their hands...

P.S.: In the film's first four days of release, it's already surpassed the previous record FIVE day gross, and is only ~$650,000 short of the SIX day record gross...

[Vampyr]

The problem I see with retiring the joker... Plotly-speaking...

Joker avoided capture so many times (one person on IMDB said he seemed almost 'too invincible')... Then when he DOES get captured, he has a scheme set up to allow his escape (granted I don't know exactly what that scheme was because our showing of the movie cut off just moments before that scene)...

Then the film basically ends with him getting arrested again (presumably)... And we're to expect that, after all that, he's not going to be able to find a way out again?

I think Nolan and his crew have quite a predicament on their hands...

Not really spoilers, but could lead people to draw conclusions:

Things aren't really any different in the comics. It is stated that the Joker, somehow, has the ability to pretty much come and go as he wants from Arkham. Any time he is captured, he can escape at any moment. He says something like "I only stay here to rest."

There are times when he breaks out, does things, then comes back. This doesn't mean that the Joker is in every single Batman comic, though, so not being in the last movie isn't a big deal. They can just say something about how he's currently locked up in Arkham, and the audience can assume that he hasn't broken out yet.

The Joker's final words to Batman "We're destined to do this for all time" says to be that Nolan wasn't completely done with the Joker, and he would have had at least a substantial cameo in the third one, but alas. I don't think he'll be resurrected, just mentioned.

[Dyne]

Man, the third's villians have a tough act to follow. What if they used the Mad Hatter and the Riddler? I would pay to see Johnny Depp as The Riddler, five times, and maybe Christopher Walken as the mad hatter. :lolz: Maybe it would win them an Oscar for once.

[Professor S]

I'd love Paul Bettany to play The Riddler.

http://www.celebritywonder.com/picture/Paul_Bettany/ActorPaulBet_Granitz_15079824.jpg

[manasecret]

Speaking of sequels, that reminds me of the most disappointing part of the Dark Knight when it finally ends -- knowing that there will be a sequel, and knowing that there is no chance in hell that it will be as good.

[Vampyr]

I'd love Paul Bettany to play The Riddler.


Very possible. I know he expressed interest in being the Joker before Heath Ledger got the role.

[Vampyr]

And:

http://files.redvsblue.com/web/images/comic/20080719RT0302.jpg

[Dyne]

It's ok, I love you Batman. :love:

[GameMaster]

I think Jim Carrey should be the Riddler again. He was great.

The worst thing about Nolan creating a third Batman film will be the absence of Heath.

Batman is pretty dry through this movie. And his performance pales in comparison to Heath's.

Maybe that's just the nature of the characters. But every time I saw Batman speak, with his lower lip all funny looking and that ridiculous voice... I just couldn't get past it.

[Jonbo298]

I'd prefer a darker Riddler like the Joker is in Dark Knight. Dark jokes would be a good take, especially if somehow someone could do a performance similar to Heath's. Darker Riddler and darker Joker would be an interesting duo.

[The Germanator]

I'm not sure where I read it but I heard rumors of Anthony Michael Hall as Riddler...

http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Profiles/20061004/244.hall.anthony.100206.jpg

[BreakABone]

Well let's see the ones people expect

-Riddler
-Catwoman
-Penguin

The ones I hope for
-The Clock King (he is a personal favorite but yeah I realize a whole movie about he would be impossible)
-Clayface (especially if use a modified version of the Batman origins)
-Deadshot (he was used in the anime special)

Ones other hope for
-Bane (I can see it but a lot of the taste of that other movie would ruin the character)

[Swan]

I don't think they could pull off a Deadshot movie.

[BreakABone]

I don't think they could pull off a Deadshot movie.

He initially appeared in Gotham City as a new crimefighter, but was revealed to be an enemy of Batman when he attempted to replace the Dark Knight. He was sent to jail when Batman and Commissioner Gordon publicly exposed his plot to become the king of Gotham's underworld.

I think you got a plot for a movie right there.

Deadshot emerges as a new hero for Gotham to replace the wanted Batman. The public encourages him to go after Batman.

He is finally revealed as an evil man trying to gain control of the broken mob.

Personally, I've always been curious about a superhero movie that has a 2 act set-up. Where the start is like the hero chasing and catching a minor villain. And at the same time, the rise of a new villain.

Sure it is kind of similar with Scarecrow in The Dark Knight but eh

[Jonbo298]

Except Scarecrow's scene in Dark Knight felt so out of place to me at least it could have been left out even though it kinda set up something later on.

I thought I read somewhere the Director doesn't want to do Clayface since he isn't a fan of CGI which well..Clayface will definitely need though they did really good CGI on Two-Face in Dark Knight. At first I wondered if they did makeup or not..until I realized that its difficult to pull off makeup when it comes to baring the teeth and whatnot.

[Dyne]

Man, just got back from my second time through. So amazing, even though imax was sold out, the regular version was fine (even if it was quieter.)

I love this movie. And just like The Prestige, there is SO many little nuances in the writing - for example, when Alfred points out to Harvey that he's almost known Rachel her whole life, yet ironically her life ends not long after. :lolz: Oh Nolan, you card.

I think I love this film because it's the perfect companion piece to The Prestige - in The Prestige he almost completely masters unconventional storytelling, yet in Dark Knight he shows how he can write the same way with a linear, more pop plot. If only Hugh Jackman and Scarlett Johansson were in this, it would be awesome - but there's SO many actor tie-ins. William Fitchner and Bale (Equilibrium), Tommy Lister and Gary Oldman (Fifth Element), Aaron Eckhart and Katie Holmes (well, if Holmes never had "scheduling conflicts", but Thank You For Smoking) and more that I can't think of. So awesome.

EDIT: Holy shit! Mr. Reese is totally going to be the Riddler. Mr. Reese = Mysteries! GET IT? Oh my god. How did I never catch that? Just like his other pseudonym, Edward Nygma - as in Mr. E. Nygma.

[DeathsHand]

Except Scarecrow's scene in Dark Knight felt so out of place to me at least it could have been left out

Not my diagnosis!

[manasecret]

Not my diagnosis!

Neither was mine. I think he played a good part as a regular ol' villain from Batman's first crusade that he already vanquished and knew how to deal with.

[GameMaster]

Neither was mine. I think he played a good part as a regular ol' villain from Batman's first crusade that he already vanquished and knew how to deal with.

DeathsHand was just reciting Scarecrow's single line from the movie actually...

But you knew that ;)

[DeathsHand]

DeathsHand was just reciting Scarecrow's single line from the movie actually...

Not true! He shared some chit-chat with the thug fellas before Batmen showed up...

But yeah, his scene to me felt kinda eh...
And that line was goofy...

[Vampyr]

Eh, I enjoyed the scene. It was a nice little cameo, and it was cool that Cillian Murphy came back to do it.

[KillerGremlin]

I finally got to see the Dark Knight...on IMAX nonetheless. I'm glad I waited a week. By the time Friday rolled around I was so beat from I had forgot about most of the stupid Batman hype. I went into the movie with high expectations, but nothing unobtainable. And, I was not disappointed.

It was much much better than Batman Begins. Much. The pacing was wonderful, and the themes were well done.

Still...my only real complaint is that I'm still not sure if I liked casting Aaron Eckhart. Time will tell, and I do plan on seeing the movie a few more times while it is in theaters.

The special effects were "off da hook." And, watching a film shot mostly in Chicago made it all the more enjoyable since I have been living in the city for the past 2 years.

I read two or three critic reviews saying that the action in the Dark Knight was too up-close and claustrophobic, but I'm not sure what they were talking about. Batman laid the smackdown on tons of badies in the film, and he kept a human element the whole time.

And then there was Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker. It was maniacal, energetic, over the top, and BRILLIANT. This is how I picture a real villain to act...Nolan hit a home run with the Joker. A villain so insane and only interested in the destruction of society. Brilliant.

Some of the other stuff, like Batman having doubts about being a superhero was touched on in Spiderman 2. But the ending theme of the movie was brilliant, as was the Joker's conversations with Batman about society, society's need for a hero like Batman, and the essence of being a hero.

Needless to say....I could probably continue to deconstruct the movie, but I won't. I want to enjoy it a few more times, because it was that good.

So...hopefully back to the theater I go tonight or tomorrow.

[KillerGremlin]

Speaking of sequels, that reminds me of the most disappointing part of the Dark Knight when it finally ends -- knowing that there will be a sequel, and knowing that there is no chance in hell that it will be as good.

I'd agree.

Plus...the third movie has been the kink in all super hero movies thus far....

Superman 3
Spiderman 3
X-Men 3

all crap crap crap...

[Dyne]

I read two or three critic reviews saying that the action in the Dark Knight was too up-close and claustrophobic

Hahaaaaaaahahahaha. They should really watch The Kingdom before they start claiming that. What a terrible movie for closeups.

[BreakABone]

I'd agree.

Plus...the third movie has been the kink in all super hero movies thus far....

Superman 3
Spiderman 3
X-Men 3

all crap crap crap...

Let's not skim over it without looking at the movies that started the trend
Superman III
Batman Forever
Matrix Revolutions

But speaking of 3, just came back from my 3rd showing of the Dark Knight (first in a normal theatre) the shots filmed in IMAX lose their luster a bit, but the movie is still every bit as awesome.

caught an awesome line I missed before.

When Joker first meets the mob, I think it is Sal who says he wears lousy make-up and a cheap suit.

So when the Joker sits down after the magic trick, he is like this suit isn't cheap. You should know you paid for it. I think it was to Gamble. Such a simple line but he taunts them so bad.

[Vampyr]

I'd agree.

Plus...the third movie has been the kink in all super hero movies thus far....

Superman 3
Spiderman 3
X-Men 3

all crap crap crap...

If Nolan does it, it will be good. It might not be as good as The Dark Knight, but it certainly will not be a bad movie.

[Bond]

The Dark Knight is now the #1 (http://www.imdb.com/chart/top) rated movie over at IMdb.

[DeathsHand]

The Dark Knight is now the #1 (http://www.imdb.com/chart/top) rated movie over at IMdb.

It has been pretty much since it came out, though it's been slowly losing ground (down to 9.2 from 9.5)...

The IMDB top 250 is pretty silly though... A nice list to browse for good movie recommendations, but I wouldn't take their placement very seriously... There's too much hype and drama.

[GameMaster]

The Dark Knight is now the #1 (http://www.imdb.com/chart/top) rated movie over at IMdb.

For a time it was also on the list of worst movies... simultaneously.

Hackers FTW!

There was also a large campaign of people who intentionally voted down The Godfather which is why The Shawshank Redemption is now second when it should be third...

And... as GT's official go-to guy for all news Batman, I present the official teaser poster for the third film:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2n0q243.jpg

[BreakABone]

GM GM GM

You are so looking for trouble aren't you.

[KillerGremlin]

If Nolan does it, it will be good. It might not be as good as The Dark Knight, but it certainly will not be a bad movie.

People said that about Spider-Man 3 and look what happened there. :p
I'll believe it when I see it...in the mean time, I'm still absorbing The Dark Knight.

[BreakABone]

Number 4! Number 4!

Yeah saw movie for the 4th time. Take that GM!. Third time in IMAX! And really it does make a difference.

[Swan]

If I get depressed this weekend I will probably go see it again

[BreakABone]

If I get depressed this weekend I will probably go see it again

Wait you will only see Batman if you get depressed?
How does that work?

[Fox 6]

To cheer him up. Duh.

[DeathsHand]

Friday estimates show The Dark Knight just barely ($300,000) being edged out by Pineapple Express.

Last Friday, The Mummy topped TDK by 2.5 million, but TDK still ended up on top for the weekend.

1st for the 4th week in a row, perhaps? *ponders*

[GameMaster]

Trailer reenacted by children:

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[Dyne]

Hahaha, that's so awesome.

[Fox 6]

:lolz:

[The Germanator]

That was great. :)

[BreakABone]

That was awesome.

[GameMaster]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/synthoid/joker6.jpg

[GameMaster]

Riddle me this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/synthoid/riddlerpostercopycopyys0-2.jpg

[BreakABone]

Oh GM you've only seen 3 times? :p

Looks like early artwork for the DVd/Blu-Ray release. Looks like I will be getting two versions the mask and the bat pod


http://www.joblo.com/excl-the-tdk-dvds

http://i33.tinypic.com/ao9ich.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/34fxl45.jpg

[GameMaster]

I'm going to see it again this weekend so everyone knows who the true Dark Knight of GT is :p

[Dyne]

I'm going to see it again this weekend so everyone knows who the true Dark Knight of GT is :p

Yeah but how many times in IMAX?

Also, I want the Blu-ray version like pronto. It's too bad they can't really fit the aspect of IMAX onto Blu-ray properly, but it'll look stunning since it's the first film of its kind, so the resolution will be intensely superior anyways. :D

[BreakABone]

I'm going to see it again this weekend so everyone knows who the true Dark Knight of GT is :p

But then you would only tie with me.
And like Dyne said how many times in IMAX? :p

[Fyacin]

Just saw thist movie. Awesome. Is that poster for a 2011 movie legit?

[DeathsHand]

Just saw thist movie. Awesome. Is that poster for a 2011 movie legit?

Nothing GameMaster posts is legit...

[Swan]

Just got back from first IMAX showing.

Pretty sweet.

Though IMAX is full of itself.


And oh yeah
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg219/Unhearted_/3144cw3.gif

[Teuthida]

Joker Interrogation Scene Spoof

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/w2yv8aT0UFc&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/w2yv8aT0UFc&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[Professor S]

I thought this was pretty amazing

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0d-zPdy190U&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0d-zPdy190U&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[KillerGremlin]

I thought this was pretty amazing

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0d-zPdy190U&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0d-zPdy190U&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

I'm sure his parents beat him until he could play it right.

[BreakABone]

http://videogum.com/archives/viral-video/where-does-he-get-such-wonderf-2_025741.html

This is awesome. haha

[Angrist]

I still haven't seen TDK. :eek:

[Professor S]

They haven't released this in the Netherlands yet? OR ARE YOU JUST LAZY???? ;)

On a side note, I NEED THIS BLU RAY.

[Angrist]

I liked BB, but I wasn't that hyped. So when I heard that TDK was more violent than BB, I decided to wait it out. And maybe see it on DVD, where the smaller screen probably makes it less shocking. Or where I can fastforward.

So yeah, lazy.

[Angrist]

I thought this was pretty amazing

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0d-zPdy190U&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0d-zPdy190U&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>Is that Xantar?

[manasecret]

Is that Xantar?

Damn, Xantar is a god, first at Extreme Pull-up Routines, and now Amazing Comic Book Movie Piano Covers?

[Xantar]

Is that Xantar?

No. Stop spreading rumors about me.

*jumps back into his trash can*

[BreakABone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VKOie52Wgw

Just because it needed more trailers.

[Krypton]

12/12/08!

[BreakABone]

12/12/08!

?

What's the date?

[Angrist]

DVD release?

[Krypton]

dvd release, indeed.
saw that at blockbuster the other night.

[BreakABone]

As the resident Bataholic on these forums, trust me I know the DVD/Blu Ray release date and it isn't 12/12 unless that recently changed.

It's 12/9/08. :p

[Krypton]

As the resident Bataholic on these forums, trust me I know the DVD/Blu Ray release date and it isn't 12/12 unless that recently changed.

It's 12/9/08. :p

oh, thank you.

[uber_paddler]

Going to be my first Blu-Ray purchase.

[BreakABone]

Today's the big day.
I am re-watching Batman Begins on Blu ray and following it up with The Dark Knight on Blu-ray.

First time going to see them back to back, and both on blu-ray.

[Fox 6]

Did you camp out to get a copy?

[BreakABone]

Did you camp out to get a copy?

Hell no... Evilzon got my back.

[GameMaster]

Hell no... Evilzon got my back.

See if you can notice any difference between Christian's 'batvoice' in Begins and TDK. I feel like his voice was different in TDK.

And who is Evilzon???

[Fyacin]

Just got my copy to watch tonight.

[Krypton]

i bought two copies of it today.
no idea why, but i felt compelled.

[Fyacin]

Just got my copy to watch tonight.

It was pretty excellent the second time. I must have watched it at least 4 times in two days.

[BreakABone]

It was pretty excellent the second time. I must have watched it at least 4 times in two days.

I've only seen it once since buying on blu-ray. :(

[Swan]

I haven't watched it once yet since I got it on the day it was released.

[birdman]

I haven't watched it once yet since I got it on the day it was released.

Sacrilege.

[BreakABone]

I haven't watched it once yet since I got it on the day it was released.

Back in the olden days we would have burnt people like you at the stake.

[Swan]

So just watched it.



Not that great
































































































or is it. Still awesome as usual

[GameMaster]

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/heathoscar1.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/heathoscar2.jpg

[Angrist]

I haven't seen TDK yet. At all.