Space Madness Round 1 - Strange Transmission

[Dylflon]

The vast reaches of space remind us how small and insignificant we are in the grand tapestry of the universe. The blackness extends distances immeasurable making us feel so helpless and alone. But with the right perspective and circumstances, the abyss outside your sleeping pod window serves to mock you when it’s not eternal emptiness you fear, but rather the company with which you share your quarters.

The Targarian was reaching its final stages of preparation when the passengers began to board. For the last 30 GNOYS (Galactic NOrmal Year Equivalents), the Targarian served as a transport ship for raw materials between colonies in various systems and sectors. But with the new fleet of G Class Transys Cruisers, the noble ship had outlived its usefulness. Now the Targarian transports merchant wares and passengers.

Captain Germanator leaned against a Mega-Load Turbo Lift and watched the dregs pile onto his ship. As he took a drag from his cigarette he reflected on how this group looked exactly the same as every passenger load he’s taken on since the decommission. And he hated them all the more since the board of directors passed the motion to decommission the captains with their ships to save on paper work, making these passengers very much an unwanted duty. This was his first visit to Mother Colony Earth since he first started working as a deckhand on a T-6 Waste Management Ship. Luckily for him, Captain Germanator was not one for nostalgia or sentiment. As he took his final drag the hairs on the back of his neck stood up and he suddenly became too aware of the person standing behind him.
“Excuse me, sir?”, the unidentified man stammered.
Germanator flicked his cigarette away and turned to face his unwelcome visitor.
“Er…my name is Jeepnut, I’m from the Inter-System Shipping Board. They sent me to investigate the recent increase in drug use among the crew of this ship”.
Mentioning that he was from the board wore on Germanator’s second to last nerve, and the fact the he was a drug sniffing narc wore on his last. The narcs (their actual titles are Space Travel Illegal Substance Operatives or STISOs) are in fact sent on board to investigate drug abuse but the directors use them as spies to essentially audit the ship while they are on board. This almost always results in a pay decrease for the captain and his crew. Germanator mulled over what would be the right words to use in this delicate situation, eventually settling on “Fuck you, you’re not coming on board”.
Jeepnut gathered up his courage and rooted around in his travel bag pulling out a signed document from the board essentially serving as a warrant.
“A member of your crew was killed recently in a loading bay accident. We are fairly certain after extensive interviews that the man operating the Turbo-Lift was under the influence of illegal substances. Denying me access to your ship will violate several IST by-laws and this as you know is a felony”.
The Germanator took a deep breath, making sure to speak very calmly.
“All right then Mr. Jeepnut. You may board my ship. But if I so much as see your face again on this trip, I have a few other felonies in mind that I will be more than willing to commit”.
With that, the captain boarded his ship to execute pre-flight preparations. He grumbled and swore all through the preparations but his pilot and navigating crew didn’t seem disturbed as this was no more agitated than the captain seemed on any other day.

Three GNODEs into the journey, everything was normal. Jeepnut went on auditing, Swan the ship engineer tinkered, and in the common room, many of the passengers drank, debated, gambled, and conversed. A man who called himself The Professor argued at length with Manasecret, a very convincing historical re-enactor about ancient colonial politics. The humans Bube, flunkie, and Typhoid played drinking games while fellow human Angrist sat off by himself reading. A man in a bathrobe played dice games with Mario Lover, a self-title free trader with an obviously fake name. the bathrobed man Dyne on several occasions accused Mario of cheating. GameMaster, a man of science, etched out blueprints for inventions which made no sense to anyone else. Also among these passengers were a cyborg called Combine, a scarred man in a cloak who went by Yoda, and a horrifying yet well-mannered alien by the name of Teuthida.

An amphibious humanoid walked past the door of the common room, the hollering and commotion within masking the sound of his out of water breathing apparatus. He had to move quickly to the cargo bay. Every step was deliberate and urgent as he knew it was only a matter of time before the STISO would be investigating his shipment. Vampyr for years had introduced himself as a traveling merchant, traveling the systems to collect and sell various exotic antiques. The antiques however had remained the same for a very long time. His real cargo consisted of bags upon bags of ‘Dust’. Dust is a notorious and illegal psychoactive substance and the STISO would receive a big fat promotion for uncovering it as certainly as Vampyr would receive a big fat death sentence. Vampyr knew that he’d have to relocate the drugs quickly. But where?

As the GNODE came to an end, and as everyone prepared to sleep, Fyacin’s work was just beginning. He was wriggling through air ducts finding he had less space to work with than he had previously hoped. Eventually he pulled himself to his destination, the grate above the communications room. The communications officers were switching shifts so he had about twenty minutes with which to work. When the current officer finally left his post, Fyacin pushed down on the vent grate, not expecting it to come loose so easily. The grate and Fyacin crashed on the ground below. Suffering only minor scrapes and bruises, Fyacin picked himself up and seated himself in the Comm-Off chair and began working away at the access interface on the nearest computer. The challenge was easy enough; infiltrate the transport ship’s system setting a time-activated code which would change the ships ID-tag. When the Targarian pulled into port, every radar and computer would see the words ‘I love penises’ in place of the ship’s name. The exercise was proposed partly out of boredom, and partly to keep his hacking skills sharp in the long months between paid jobs.

In the pilot’s cabin Captain Germanator was half-heartedly waging a battle against sleep, and sleep was winning. He began to have the most wonderful dream about everyone dying, when one of his navigators burst into the room.
“Navigator Uber Paddler reporting sir!”, exclaimed the new recruit.
Captain Germantor did not appear to be amused.
“Sir, the prisoner we are escorting has requested a television set for his cell”
Germanator blinked very slowly, and was about to get angry when he realized that Paddler hadn’t been around here for long and didn’t know the ship’s rules yet, first and foremost being ‘do not bother the captain while he is sleeping’.
“Give Aladuf the stupid television and tell him if he sends another one of you to bother me, he’ll get to sleep in the air lock which has no television and tends to get quite draughty when I want it to”.
Uber Paddler nodded and made a quick exit. Germanator sighed, partially unnerved that his old friend is being transported to meet a death sentence, and partially that he would send someone to bug him at this hour. Aladuf knows better.

Fyacin had already worked his way through the initial three security nets. Now all he had to do was open up the communication channels for as long as it takes him to type out his code. The process should have taken no more than ten seconds but the second he took the security block off of the channels, a disturbing frequency made itself at home.

All of a sudden, a rogue broadcast appeared on every teleset on board. Even the ones that were off switched on and displayed the transmission. It was hard to define specifically what it was, but could best be described as a shifting mass of colors, some of which nobody had seen before, accompanied by extreme high and low tonal frequencies. Every living being on board was subjected to the transmission.

Something strange began to happen as the transmission carried on. The ship’s crew and passengers began to speak in a strange manner, going on about things that made no sense, mistaking people for people who weren’t even on the ship. Then some of the ship’s inhabitants began killing eachother. And then more. And then more. Before long, over half the ship was fighting, and brutally murdering one another.

Captain Germanator pushed his way to the common room. Along every corridor, people fell over eachother wielding whatever weapons they could get their hands on. One of the captain’s computer technicians came at him wielding a steel rod. Germanator ducked under the technician’s first swing and punched him in the gut. He then disarmed the man and proceeded to beat him to death with the rod. The common room would be the only room he could lock off which would have supplies enough to keep himself and possibly others alive for more than a few days. He initially sought out the kitchen but since the kitchen was on fire, the common room would have to do. After finally reaching his destination, Germanator uncovered the key lock and began inputting his emergency lockdown code. Hydraulic pumps hissed and the door began to slowly close. Fyacin jumped through what was left of the uncovered doorway mere seconds before the door locked itself into place.

Germanator turned around with bloody rod in hand to address the startled and horrified faces in front of him.

“ALL RIGHT! HOW MANY OF YOU ARE CRAZY!?”


-----

Members of this group have succumbed to some sort of strange space madness and intend to murder everyone. It is your job to find out who. At the end of each round, those who have died will be announced but their mental status will remain secret. You must think logically and decide who is not sane.

Voting is a must and inactivity will not be tolerated.


The player list:


01. Aladuf
02. Yoda9864
03. Swan
04. Angrist
05. Dyne
06. Teuthida
07. Bube
08. GameMaster
09. Vampyr
10. jeepnut
11. uber_paddler
12. Typhoid
13. Fyacin
14. flunkie44
15. The Germanator
16. manasecret
17. thatmariolover
18. Combine 017
19. Professor S

There are special abilities, but the nature of them will also be kept secret.

This round ends on Thursday June 26th at 10am PST/ 1pm Eastern


PMs will be sent out shortly.

[Dylflon]

PS. No direct quoting, screen shotting, or forwarding of your PMs are allowed. You can tell people whatever you want but just don't do those 3 things.

[Dyne]

Well if we can vote right away I'm going to !vote thatmariolover because he's a goddamn cheater. Who's cheating on death and sanity AND me apparently.

This is not a real vote and I will be changing it later.

[Fyacin]

"I love penises?" A bit to coarse for my style... Excellent narrative start though, love how I seem to have inadverdently caused this whole mess.

*back in character now*

[Angrist]

Great narrative Dylflon! :D

01:00:00 p.m. Tuesday June 26, 2008 in US/Eastern converts to
07:00:00 p.m. Tuesday June 26, 2008 in Europe/Luxembourg
So I guess that's 8:00 p.m. for you, Bube.

[Teuthida]

Goodness gracious. This does not bode well for my afternoon tea.

[Combine 017]

An Android!? Come on! thats not close to what I said at all. Maybe a Cyborg, that would have been a bit closer at least.

[Dylflon]

An Android!? Come on! thats not close to what I said at all. Maybe a Cyborg, that would have been a bit closer at least.

I meant to say cyborg. It has been fixed.

[Dyne]

Goodness gracious. This does not bode well for my afternoon tea.

Can I join in? I didn't even get my morning tea. Bullocks. :(

[Bube]

Me likes! :)

But I don't like it when people die :(

I refuse to watch movies where people die.

[Fyacin]

Are all brits this whiny or are you an exception Mister Dent?

[Dyne]

Are all brits this whiny or are you an exception Mister Dent?

Does it matter? Apparently I am the only british person left alive, let alone earthling. :(

[Angrist]

I'm very Earthly and it looks like I can read too!

[Aladuf]

Yay! The game has started, this should be fun...again! :D

[manasecret]

I don't know why people refer to me as Manasecret, when I keep explaining to everyone that I am George Washington. I suppose if I were to be on the other side and someone told me they came from hundreds of years in the past (or noys, as they seem to call them here -- or guhnoys, the pronunciation is odd and I'm not sure how they would spell it), I would be a mite skeptical as well -- as I was with Gabriel. Who, by the way, must have gotten off the ship and left me alone here!

What is that noise I hear anyway? Like the low rumble of a large theater full of an audience all clapping, combined with the screach of the birds around my home Mount Vernon. Oh, Mount Vernon, if only I were back home instead of in this dreadful place where no one believes who I am...

I must think hard, George Washington. I was brought back for my skills in warfare and diplomacy, but Gabriel also said I was brought back for my skills in other areas he couldn't yet explain.

Perhaps he meant my keen clarity in the midst of chaos. Well, if that's true, that keen sense of mine is telling me pretty much everyone is crazy in this room. Hmm... I will have to ponder longer.

[Dyne]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Washington, Washington? 6 foot 8, weighs a fucking ton?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbRom1Rz8OA

[Typhoid]

I actually look forward to reading these.

[Fyacin]

I don't know why people refer to me as Manasecret, when I keep explaining to everyone that I am George Washington. I suppose if I were to be on the other side and someone told me they came from hundreds of years in the past (or noys, as they seem to call them here -- or guhnoys, the pronunciation is odd and I'm not sure how they would spell it), I would be a mite skeptical as well -- as I was with Gabriel. Who, by the way, must have gotten off the ship and left me alone here!

What is that noise I hear anyway? Like the low rumble of a large theater full of an audience all clapping, combined with the screach of the birds around my home Mount Vernon. Oh, Mount Vernon, if only I were back home instead of in this dreadful place where no one believes who I am...

I must think hard, George Washington. I was brought back for my skills in warfare and diplomacy, but Gabriel also said I was brought back for my skills in other areas he couldn't yet explain.

Perhaps he meant my keen clarity in the midst of chaos. Well, if that's true, that keen sense of mine is telling me pretty much everyone is crazy in this room. Hmm... I will have to ponder longer.


Right, we're the crazy ones *eye roll*. I say kill the old dude now before he completley snaps and kills us all.

[thatmariolover]

Well if we can vote right away I'm going to !vote thatmariolover because he's a goddamn cheater. Who's cheating on death and sanity AND me apparently.

This is not a real vote and I will be changing it later.


You're pointing fingers awfully fast. Some might say, crazy fast?

I rest my case.

Anybody else up for dice?

[manasecret]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Washington, Washington? 6 foot 8, weighs a fucking ton?

That's right. Don't F with the GW.

Ahem.

Right, we're the crazy ones *eye roll*. I say kill the old dude now before he completley snaps and kills us all.

Mr. Professor S was relating to me an anecdote about you saying how you loved penises. Is that true? My friend Alexander Hamilton
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Alexander_Hamilton.jpg/225px-Alexander_Hamilton.jpg
would love to meet you.

[Vampyr]

!vote Jeepnut

I have to protect my cargo.

[Fyacin]

That's right. Don't F with the GW.

Ahem.



Mr. Professor S was relating to me an anecdote about you saying how you loved penises. Is that true? My friend Alexander Hamilton
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Alexander_Hamilton.jpg/225px-Alexander_Hamilton.jpg
would love to meet you.

No need to get nasty Mister G, Just sayin...

[manasecret]

No need to take it harshly, my boy! All in good fun.

[flunkie44]

Where's my butterfly?

I miss me friend. :(

[The Germanator]

That's it, you are all crazy. I've got to be sane, I'm running the damn ship.

[Yoda9864]

Blood, there will be. See it, you will......

[Professor S]

Blood, there will be. See it, you will......


What I see is a crazy bastard talking backwards.

!vote Yoda9864

Now what penises were we talking about?

[Fyacin]

Forget the freaking penises, there are bloody homicidal nutjobs to worry about!

[Swan]

Fyacin....you bastard!



And Captain oh Captain has locked us all in together. Why would someone lock us together if there were lunatics on board....unless he is an Other!



Wait....wrong game

[flunkie44]

Fyacin....you bastard!



And Captain oh Captain has locked us all in together. Why would someone lock us together if there were lunatics on board....unless he is an Other!



Wait....wrong game

I lol'd.

[Combine 017]

I dont know who to vote for, ive got another day so ill wait for someone to do something crazy. Other than that I am trustworthy for I have already been brainwashed by The Combine and can not suffer from space crazies. Teuthida I trust you as a well mannered alien, can I experiment Combine technology on you and make you a synth?

[Yoda9864]

Interesting, this game will be if .... ah screw it.

This will be very hard if we don't get to see if the dead people are crazy or not. How will we ever know if we're voting right or not?

[Swan]

Interesting, this game will be if .... ah screw it.

This will be very hard if we don't get to see if the dead people are crazy or not. How will we ever know if we're voting right or not?

WE WON'T!





AHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Fyacin]

Yeah, he is certainly nuts, kill him too.

[manasecret]

My guess is if this game were to work, then not all of you are completely :crazy:. We are told to think logically by the narrator, Dylflon... hmm, I will have to dwell on this.

[jeepnut]

I'm not sure Fyacin understands the voting and retraction process. We may need a post to explain the rules a bit more thoroughly since he wasn't here for the last one.

[flunkie44]

Yeah, he is certainly nuts, kill him too.

:lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz: :lolz:


PERFECT response after that! I just about spit my soda out!

[jeepnut]

Hmm, who to vote for? I'm tempted to vote for Swan simply because he screwed up the justification of this page with his giant maniacal laughter. Also, if I kill Vampyr, I might get a giant promotion! Tough decision...

[Fyacin]

I'm not sure Fyacin understands the voting and retraction process. We may need a post to explain the rules a bit more thoroughly since he wasn't here for the last one.

Ooh, yes please, you can PM it to me if you want to avoid cluttering the thread.

[manasecret]

Uber Paddler, a "new recruit", interrupted Captain Germy to get Aladuf a TV set. Aladuf and the Captain know each other well; Aladuf knows better than to bother the Captain at a late hour.

A TV was used as the :crazy:'s transmission source. Perhaps Uber Paddler was lying when he said Aladuf asked for the TV? I think you know what I'm getting at.

It seems too obvious, but until a better explanation, I, George Washington, shall !vote Uber Paddle.

[Swan]

Why would anybody want to be locked in with others when people have gone insane.


It does not make sense!

It does not make sense!



Damn you Germy......I will engineer a way to figure this out....with my wrench!


http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/pipe-wrench-1.jpg

Critical Hit!

[Swan]

Uber Paddler, a "new recruit", interrupted Captain Germy to get Aladuf a TV set. Aladuf and the Captain know each other well; Aladuf knows better than to bother the Captain at a late hour.

A TV was used as the :crazy:'s transmission source. Perhaps Uber Paddler was lying when he said Aladuf asked for the TV? I think you know what I'm getting at.

It seems too obvious, but until a better explanation, I, George Washington, shall !vote Uber Paddle.

I thought it said that uber was friends with Aladuf?

[Fyacin]

Uber Paddler, a "new recruit", interrupted Captain Germy to get Aladuf a TV set. Aladuf and the Captain know each other well; Aladuf knows better than to bother the Captain at a late hour.

A TV was used as the :crazy:'s transmission source. Perhaps Uber Paddler was lying when he said Aladuf asked for the TV? I think you know what I'm getting at.

It seems too obvious, but until a better explanation, I, George Washington, shall !vote Uber Paddle.

So loony G says Uber P used a TV tuned to loony tunes to zap us all? :lolz:

[Yoda9864]

!vote Germy

Why would you lock us in other than to get your crazy kicks killing us all???

[jeepnut]

Ooh, yes please, you can PM it to me if you want to avoid cluttering the thread.

Here's a link to the rules thread for the last game. Not sure if anything has changed but I'm pretty sure most of the rules will carry over. I'm pretty sure you're the only player who wasn't in the last game Fyacin, but just in case, I'm posting the link here. Also makes for easy reference if the rest of us need to double check something.

The rules. (http://www.gametavern.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18257)

[manasecret]

Sir Fyacin -- this link I dug up from behind someone's lunchbox (sorry Mr. Professor S, I ate your sandwich it seems) may help you in this bin of loonies.


EDIT: Ahh, the police authorities, always quick to point out the rules, have beat me to it. Though this fascination with drug eradication is perplexing to me. In my day, we grew our own hemp and it was the wise thing to do.

[Fyacin]

Thanks Jeep (and Mister G), makes sense.

Yoda has good reasoning(if wierdo grammar), and seeing as Germ might be a bit inclined to vote for me for certain, erm, modifications I may have made...

!vote Germ

[The Germanator]

I also blame Swan for screwing up the damn page formatting. The Captain does not approve of such nonsense. I've got my eye on you.

[jeepnut]

Vote count so far:

The Germanator: 2
ThatMarioLover: 1
jeepnut: 1
Yoda 9864: 1
Uber Paddler: 1

[jeepnut]

Sir Fyacin -- this link I dug up from behind someone's lunchbox (sorry Mr. Professor S, I ate your sandwich it seems) may help you in this bin of loonies.


EDIT: Ahh, the police authorities, always quick to point out the rules, have beat me to it. Though this fascination with drug eradication is perplexing to me. In my day, we grew our own hemp and it was the wise thing to do.

This drug "DUST" is a bit more dangerous than the hemp your are used to Mr. "Washington." I wonder if it might not be at the root of all the craziness on board. Would explain why the broadcast affected some and not others. Either way, I'm only following orders as it is in the best interest of my continual employment.

[Combine 017]

You cant vote Germy, hes the captain of the ship. And how was he supposed to know other people would be in here to, he just wanted to save himself and let everyone else die.

[jeepnut]

You cant vote Germy, hes the captain of the ship. And how was he supposed to know other people would be in here to, he just wanted to save himself and let everyone else die.

Germy has as much right to be crazy as anyone else. And why would you defend someone unless you know for a fact they're on your side? Hmmm?

[Fyacin]

Kill them both! Kill them all hmm?

[The Germanator]

I do not have the right to be crazy. I have to keep this ship running and not let the crazies overtake it. I only locked everyone away so I could sort through in my mind who is crazy and who isn't.

My conclusion? You'd have to be crazy to vote me off, seriously.

[flunkie44]

!vote Germy

Why did you kill my beautiful butterfly?!

[Combine 017]

Germy has as much right to be crazy as anyone else. And why would you defend someone unless you know for a fact they're on your side? Hmmm?

Hes the captain and not crazy so I am on his side. And like he said, it would be crazy to vote him off.

[GameMaster]

Its only round one and I'm already sick of the word 'crazy'. God, talk about being overplayed.

[Dyne]

Its only round one and I'm already sick of the word 'crazy'. God, talk about being overplayed.

Mma mma maa!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qTFqnDpuvE

This should totally be the theme song of this Mafia.

[Angrist]

Haha, nice song. Awesome dance moves too.

First of all: !Clarification Do crazy people know they're crazy? Or are they told they are not crazy, because from their point of view, they aren't?

So I was thinking. We won't be told who was what. But we do have to find a way to figure it out, so I assume there will be hints in the narration.
This guy who thinks he's George Washington makes a good point. I like his 18th century's qualities, so I'll go with his reasoning.

!vote Uber Paddle

Edit: also, he hasn't posted yet.

[Bube]

You should convince us otherwise then, instead of saying that we'd have to be crazy :)

I'll probably be able to visit GT again at a later time and change my vote, but if I can't I !vote Germanator.

[thatmariolover]

Indeed. A little convincing would be nice. We can't have a crazy captain, this needs to be sorted out now.

!vote Germanator

[The Germanator]

!vote Uber_Paddler

All those voting for me, seriously, you're making a mistake. Just so you know. More convincing, hmm...Well, I've already told you the truth which is that I haven't gone mad, but nobody seems to believe it. Can't do much more than that.

[Angrist]

Vote count so far:

The Germanator: 5
Uber Paddler: 3
ThatMarioLover: 1
jeepnut: 1
Yoda 9864: 1

[Vampyr]

!retract Jeepnut


!vote Uber_Paddler

Honestly, we all -would- have to be crazy to kill the captain of the ship. Who the hell is going to fly the damn thing to get us out of this?

Jeepnut might find my Dust, but if the ship's lost in interstellar space forever, I'll definitely not be selling it.

[Fyacin]

Well I probably could fly a ship.... I've, erm, serviced enough Nav systems.

[Angrist]

Germy and his friends aren't doing a great job defending the captain. I don't think it shouldn't matter gamewise whether he's the captain or not. Saying he can't be crazy isn't an argument.
Besides, we know for sure that he has killed somebody. He still has the bloody club in his hand.

So based on what people have posted, I will change my vote.

!retract Uber_Paddler

!vote The Germanator

[Vampyr]

Germy and his friends aren't doing a great job defending the captain. I don't think it shouldn't matter gamewise whether he's the captain or not. Saying he can't be crazy isn't an argument.
Besides, we know for sure that he has killed somebody. He still has the bloody club in his hand.

So based on what people have posted, I will change my vote.

!retract Uber_Paddler

!vote The Germanator

What you just said doesn't make any sense to me, and actually sounds like crazy talk.

The fact that "his friends aren't doing a good job defending him" is actually a sign that he -isn't- crazy, assuming that all the crazy people know who else is crazy. The fact that there seems to be a movement towards voting him off implies that the crazy people are going for him.

I don't really have any idea about Uber Paddler, it's a shot in the dark at this point, but throwing your vote onto the person already with the most votes seems like a dumb idea, as that person is most likely the one the crazy people have targeted first.

[jeepnut]

I'm sensing some piling on here from the crazies. They see someone with a lead in the vote that they know is not them and are using their coordinated voting to make sure a sane person is voted out. And, they will be more brave about it this time since it won't be revealed that they voted for a sane person. This theory of course all assumes that the crazies know they are crazy and also know who each other are like in the last game.

While I don't like the way a number of people have leapt (although poorly) to Germy's defense this early in the game, I also don't like how so many have suddenly jumped on the bandwagon to vote him off. It strikes me as a coordinated effort.

All that said, I will go with the other bandwagon of voting off !uber-paddler. I don't want someone who genuinely has an interest in playing the game to be voted off in the first round simply because people have a hunch. That and inactive players really throw off the game.

[manasecret]

Whether ship of metal or ship of wood, a ship is a ship and it needs a Captain. I stick with my Sir Uber Paddle vote, because no other better theory has arisen. I am willing to change my vote, though, if someone else comes up with something better, because I know my theories about Others in the last game were all for naught. Yes, I was really named George Washington in the last game, I was just not ready to reveal it.

[Fyacin]

Gah, I can't decide now.
!retract Germanator

I think I will watch and wait for a time.

[jeepnut]

Gah, I can't decide now.
!retract Germanator

I think I will watch and wait for a time.

Well, just so you know, don't wait too long. You only have about a hour and a half to get your vote in.

EDIT: Oops, nevermind. I guess you have over a day to get your vote in. I assumed the round was ending today and it looks like it's ending tomorrow instead.

[jeepnut]

Vote count so far:

The Germanator: 5
Uber Paddler: 4
ThatMarioLover: 1
Yoda 9864: 1

[Fyacin]

Right. Who hasn't voted so far?

[thatmariolover]

I guess, it would be mad to kill the captain. Still... /sigh

!retract The Germanator

!vote Uber_Paddler

[Dyne]

I'll be pro-active this game and not vote randomly. :lolz:

!retract thatmariolover

!vote Uber_Paddler


That puts the vote count at a cool:

Uber Paddler: 6
The Germanator: 4
Yoda 9864: 1

[Fyacin]

You know, if Jeepnut is one of them, he has just fairly effectively saved Germanator...

[Teuthida]

Perhaps I should side with the majority and vote for the Paddler of Uber. Such conduct has served me well in the past. I learned quickly that consuming human flesh was frowned upon.

I do have special abilities though. And those abilities are clear and logical reasoning skills. I must vote for the engineer. His burst of maniacal laughter disturbed my bowels and chilled my tail bones. A sure sign of insanity if ever there was one.

!vote Swan

[jeepnut]

You know, if Jeepnut is one of them, he has just fairly effectively saved Germanator...

My goal was not to save Germanator. I was just giving my own reasoning.

[Angrist]

I also don't like how so many have suddenly jumped on the bandwagon to vote him off. ....

All that said, I will go with the other bandwagon of voting off !uber-paddler.So when it concerns Germanator, he doesn't like jumping the bandwagon. But he doesn't seem to care about Uber_Paddler... Weird.

And that's why I retracted Uber_Paddler and voted Germanator.

!Clarification Dylflon, did you assign roles before or after you asked us to write our background?? I'd like to know if it's random or not.

[jeepnut]

So when it concerns Germanator, he doesn't like jumping the bandwagon. But he doesn't seem to care about Uber_Paddler... Weird.

And that's why I retracted Uber_Paddler and voted Germanator.

!Clarification Dylflon, did you assign roles before or after you asked us to write our background?? I'd like to know if it's random or not.

I explained why I'm going with the bandwagon on Uber. If you want, I can change my vote to a random person or to you if you would prefer. :p

[Bube]

It doesn't matter who gets killed or voted off or whatever. We're all going to die anyway. Somebody set up us the bomb.

[Fyacin]

We have no chance to survive make your time...

My goal was not to save Germanator. I was just giving my own reasoning.

That's exactly what I would expect a madman to say!

[flunkie44]

:ohreilly:

[Dyne]

:ohreilly:

Don't you hate itchy chins?

[Typhoid]

!Vote uber-paddler

[Vampyr]

!Retract uber-paddler

The willingness of everyone to suddenly jump uber-paddler is leading me to believe he is also innocent.

I say everyone who isn't crazy cast your vote for the same person, and see if people who have already voted refuse to vote for that person, or suddenly stop posting.

!Vote Swan

He acted pretty ridiculously crazy earlier in the thread.

[Typhoid]

!Retract uber-paddler

The willingness of everyone to suddenly jump uber-paddler is leading me to believe he is also innocent.

I say everyone who isn't crazy cast your vote for the same person, and see if people who have already voted refuse to vote for that person, or suddenly stop posting.

!Vote Swan

He acted pretty ridiculously crazy earlier in the thread.


I've had enough of you and your manipulating ways.
You have stated in every game such as this, that you attempt to manipulate everyone right away.

And you said everyone who isn't crazy, all vote for the same person.
We are.
We are voting for uber paddler, apparently.
So you and your flock of crazies, can go and vote for Swan.

[Dyne]

Honestly, the first round should be the purest because all the crazies haven't had much chance to deceive. Why start speculating so soon?

I do miss earth and its conniving ways, but this is just ridiculous.

[Vampyr]

I've had enough of you and your manipulating ways.
You have stated in every game such as this, that you attempt to manipulate everyone right away.

And you said everyone who isn't crazy, all vote for the same person.
We are.
We are voting for uber paddler, apparently.
So you and your flock of crazies, can go and vote for Swan.

I too, was voting for Uber paddler when there was a minority group voting for him, and the majority seemed to be going with Germanator, and people were giving odd reasons for voting for him, reasons that did not make sense, and were more of a ploy to cover up their true actions.

But once votes started to build on Uber, everyone switched to him, meaning that the crazies don't mind if he dies either.

This isn't manipulation, yet at least, it's just simple logic. Anyone here can sit back and read through the thread and see that what I propose makes sense.

And your attempt to start a witch hunt leads me to believe you too are crazy, and possibly trying to protect Swan, if he is crazy (which he was acting like).

If everyone suddenly switches to Swan, we'll know he's innocent, or that the crazies are just voting for one of their own, and will switch their votes in the last few minutes. Doing the latter, however, will definitely show who is truely crazy.

[Typhoid]

If everyone suddenly switches to Swan, we'll know he's innocent, or that the crazies are just voting for one of their own, and will switch their votes in the last few minutes. Doing the latter, however, will definitely show who is truely crazy.


No, if everyone suddenly switches to Swan, we'll know that you now can assume you have control of people's minds, and their vote of confidence that you are not a crazy.

My votes are not going on peoples posts. At all. Not now, anyways.
They are going by the flow of the actual story dialogue itself.
As this is the first round, I am joining the majority, as most others are doing, as to not draw attention to themselves, considering this madness just started occuring, and everyone is dazed, and in a blind rage of what to do.

[Vampyr]

Honestly, the first round should be the purest because all the crazies haven't had much chance to deceive. Why start speculating so soon?

I do miss earth and its conniving ways, but this is just ridiculous.

This is longer than a usual first round, though. This is also the hardest mafia yet for the good guys to win, since it looks like we won't even know if we've killed a crazy person or not.

For the good guys, speculating as early as possible is the only way to win.

[Vampyr]

No, if everyone suddenly switches to Swan, we'll know that you now can assume you have control of people's minds, and their vote of confidence that you are not a crazy.

My votes are not going on peoples posts. At all. Not now, anyways.
They are going by the flow of the actual story dialogue itself.
As this is the first round, I am joining the majority, as most others are doing, as to not draw attention to themselves, considering this madness just started occuring, and everyone is dazed, and in a blind rage of what to do.

I don't mean to sound out of character, but the story is only for entertainment, isn't it? It doesn't actually reveal anything about the game, does it? It never has before.

[Dylflon]

So when it concerns Germanator, he doesn't like jumping the bandwagon. But he doesn't seem to care about Uber_Paddler... Weird.

And that's why I retracted Uber_Paddler and voted Germanator.

!Clarification Dylflon, did you assign roles before or after you asked us to write our background?? I'd like to know if it's random or not.

It's random

[Typhoid]

I don't mean to sound out of character, but the story is only for entertainment, isn't it? It doesn't actually reveal anything about the game, does it? It never has before.


I'd like to assume it does, considering it has our actual names in it, and you can subtly draw conclusions from it, in partner with posts from the people, as to unusual behaviour of a normal person who is covering something up (IE posts), or the in-story actions.

But that would be a clarification moment.
And I'm far too lazy to move the mouse up to select the orange hue.

[Dyne]

This is longer than a usual first round, though. This is also the hardest mafia yet for the good guys to win, since it looks like we won't even know if we've killed a crazy person or not.

For the good guys, speculating as early as possible is the only way to win.

"Good guys" can also be crazy.

Innocent people are innocent. And if last game is any indication, us innocents can seem like the bad guys sometimes (and get clusterfuck voted off for no reason at all.)

I'm still sticking with Uber because I'm shallow. :)

[Dylflon]

I don't mean to sound out of character, but the story is only for entertainment, isn't it? It doesn't actually reveal anything about the game, does it? It never has before.


He speaks the truth. The narration is only for flavor. It will not determine who is crazy. I have to make everyone seem possibly crazy in the narrative to keep it fair.

[Vampyr]

"Good guys" can also be crazy.

Innocent people are innocent. And if last game is any indication, us innocents can seem like the bad guys sometimes (and get clusterfuck voted off for no reason at all.)

I'm still sticking with Uber because I'm shallow. :)

Which is exactly why I'm using the "clusterfuck vote" as an indication that that person is innocent. :D

[manasecret]

He speaks the truth. The narration is only for flavor. It will not determine who is crazy. I have to make everyone seem possibly crazy in the narrative to keep it fair.

If that's the case, then my reasoning means nothing.

But, unless Sir Uber Paddler decides to participate sometime before Thursday noon, I will keep my vote as him.

[jeepnut]

If that's the case, then my reasoning means nothing.

But, unless Sir Uber Paddler decides to participate sometime before Thursday noon, I will keep my vote as him.

As will I. I would rather vote someone off in the first round who isn't participating than someone who is, crazy or not.

And Vampyr, I'm perfectly willing to switch my vote to anyone if you can provide a logical reason for doing so. However, since it's so early in the game, I doubt you can. For now, I will stick with my "least harm" vote.

[jeepnut]

Haha, nice song. Awesome dance moves too.

First of all: !Clarification Do crazy people know they're crazy? Or are they told they are not crazy, because from their point of view, they aren't?

So I was thinking. We won't be told who was what. But we do have to find a way to figure it out, so I assume there will be hints in the narration.
This guy who thinks he's George Washington makes a good point. I like his 18th century's qualities, so I'll go with his reasoning.

!vote Uber Paddle

Edit: also, he hasn't posted yet.

You seem to have missed this !clarification Dylflon. Unless of course I just missed your response to it...

[Dylflon]

I didn't miss it, I just chose not to respond to it.

It's more fun that way.

[jeepnut]

I didn't miss it, I just chose not to respond to it.

It's more fun that way.

Of course you dirty devil. In that case...

!vote Dylflon

[Angrist]

Ooh, I hit a nerve!

Anyway, now that we know that voting for Uber_Paddler came out of nowhere, I will change my vote again (which is currently on Germanator). I'll have to read through all the posts again to decide who is most suspicious.

By the way, we don't know any of the rules this time, do we?

[Vampyr]

As will I. I would rather vote someone off in the first round who isn't participating than someone who is, crazy or not.

And Vampyr, I'm perfectly willing to switch my vote to anyone if you can provide a logical reason for doing so. However, since it's so early in the game, I doubt you can. For now, I will stick with my "least harm" vote.

I'm not providing logical reasons for voting for someone, I'm providing logical reasons not to vote for someone. They could be completely wrong, but Dylflon said we had to pay attention and be careful. At the moment this is the only thing I have to go on, and it makes the most sense to me. In this game, especially at the beginning, going with the bandwagon usually results in the "bad" guys winning.

[Angrist]

But we now know that roles were assigned randomly. So the fact that somebody happens to be the captain, doesn't mean a thing.

!I retract Germanator

[Dyne]

!retract Uber Paddler

!vote Vampyr

[Professor S]

Historically speaking, tiny green men who speak backwards are homicidal maniacs. I'm not saying this... HISTORY IS...

[Vampyr]

Historically speaking, tiny green men who speak backwards are homicidal maniacs. I'm not saying this... HISTORY IS...

Historically speaking, so are Stranglers

:)

[jeepnut]

I counted the votes:

uber_paddler: 5
The Germanator: 3
Swan: 2
Yoda 9864: 1
Vampyr: 1

[Swan]

Of course the Vampyr wants me out. He has a deep burning hate for me the lives deep within him.


But I shant return the vote for I have pride. I know I am not crazy.....but do crazy people know they are crazy?

I'm intrigued by Combine's emphasis on the word crazy in each of his posts.



So here goes.

!Vote Combine017

[Bube]

Oh all right, I don't think it's fair that Germy gets voted off when uber still hasn't joined in. !retract Germanator and !vote uber_paddler

[GameMaster]

!vote uber_paddler

Sorry paddles. You just never seem to want to play when push comes to shove. Consider this the end.

[uber_paddler]

Hmm, let's see here. I certainly like Vampyrs way of thinking, but is he just acting sensible so we don't think he's crazy? Either way, his idea of supporting Swan seems the best way to keep myself in the game, so perhaps that's what I'll do. Hmm, rash decision certainly must not be made yet....I'll have to consider this further. The fact that the captain's the one who locked us all up screams nutzo, although I doubt anyone who spends so much time around contraband would have gone with delving into it themselves, which would make them crazy.

Oh btw, sorry about being so late to the party, but I was busy getting my Big Boss emblem and hadn't even been on teh intarwebz. Back now, though.

[Aladuf]

Here's a throwaway vote as I haven't been able to keep up with this first thread.

!vote Professor S

Don't worry Prof. no strategy behind that, I just saw someone who had no votes and voted since I didn't want to just jump on the bandwagon for voting off a person when I don't actually know the reasoning behind the votes for said person.

[Combine 017]

Of course the Vampyr wants me out. He has a deep burning hate for me the lives deep within him.


But I shant return the vote for I have pride. I know I am not crazy.....but do crazy people know they are crazy?

I'm intrigued by Combine's emphasis on the word crazy in each of his posts.



So here goes.

!Vote Combine017

I only emphasized crazy once, and that was a quote from someone else. You filled half a page with laughter. !vote Swan

[uber_paddler]

Ok, having read through the entire thread I think I'm going to make my decision: !vote Swan

[Fyacin]

Hmm, for now I am liking the swan theory.

!vote Swan

[Typhoid]

Can someone explain what this Swan theory is?

All you're doing, is the exact same thing we're doing with Uber Paddler, except the difference is we're jumping on a bandwagon under general assumption.

You all, are jumping on a bandwagon under guidance of Vampyr.

[uber_paddler]

Well i just think Vampyr's theory makes sense, and there's not really much to go on at this point other than gut feeling.

[Fyacin]

!Clarification May we communicate outside of this thread about the game?

[Swan]

This is what Vampyr wants. It is what he does.


He manipulates you. He controls you while making it seems like you have a choice. Fight back my friends

[Typhoid]

Well i just think Vampyr's theory makes sense, and there's not really much to go on at this point other than gut feeling.

What exactly, makes sense about it?

The fact he said "If people vote for Swan and change their votes, we'll know they're crazy" or the part where you guys give up your own free decision making, by being influenced by someone who uses big words, and roundabout speaking to blind you into thinking you really have control of your own actions?

Voting for Swan - at this point - is not a smart decision, my friends.

[Fyacin]

Ok, this is suspicous, why not vote for swan? What makes what Vampyr did any less suspect then Jeepnut? If you ask me Typhoid is a little to eager to protect Swan.

[uber_paddler]

Hmmm, why do you want to keep Swan around so badly?

[Swan]

I'm going to go with that it is not me, but just the principal that you guys are doing the exact same thing that you had been doing before, but now Vamp has told you guys to do it.


Proving to himself that he could control you all this round

[Typhoid]

I don't care if he stays or goes.
That's why I even said "Dont vote for him yet, anyways".
I just don't want you all to fall under the guidance of Vampyr, especially in the first round.
In the first round, nobody should be swayed, because nothing is apparent.

That is why the vast majority of us voted one-after-another for uber paddler with no reason why. It's just a mass clusterfuck off the bat.

But then in walks Vampyr with your minds as putty in his hands, and he's shaping reasons to get you all under his grasp.

If you listen to him in the first round, what's stopping you from listening to him in the 5th, or 6th?

It's not the fact you're all voting for Swan, it's the fact you're being told to, by Vampyr.

[Fyacin]

Mmmmk, what should we base our vote on? Dyf said that the narrative isn't important, so we can base it on eachothers actions, which we have had very little time to observe so far, and honestly, based on your defense of Swan, I am leaning towards voting for you...

[Typhoid]

Mmmmk, what should we base our vote on? Dyf said that the narrative isn't important, so we can base it on eachothers actions, which we have had very little time to observe so far, and honestly, based on your defense of Swan, I am leaning towards voting for you...


Vote for whomever you want.
Even if it's me.
Just don't fall under the mind-grasp of listening to someone tell you WHO to vote for this early on.
Especially Vampyr. He is good at manipulating, and if you listen to him in round 1, like I said before, you'll be protecting him the entire way through, which is what he wants.
I dont want to save Swan. It has nothing to do with who you're voting for.
Like I said, it has everything to do with who you're listening to.

[jeepnut]

Alright, now that Uber has returned, my reason for voting for him is gone.

!retract uber_paddler

Vampyr on the other hand is bugging me. He's somehow convinced others to vote for Swan because to quote some "his theory makes sense" without actually making a point or providing any evidence. Not fooling me. I need a reason to vote for someone specific if I don't vote randomly. I guess I have one now.

!vote Vampyr

[Typhoid]

!retract uber_paddler


!vote Vampyr

[Swan]

!retract Combine017

Take this Vamp....my pride is gone!


!Vote Vampyr

[Typhoid]

Votes are - if I am correct - as follows:

uber_paddler: 5
Swan: 4
Vampyr: 4
The Germanator: 2
Yoda 9864: 1
Prof S: 1

[jeepnut]

Wow, these votes sure have been fluctuating over the course of this round.

[Vampyr]

Well, it looks like what is happening is exactly what I said would happen: we changed votes a few times, and suddenly we've found someone that a certain sect of people are reluctant to vote for.

No one had problems jumping onto bandwagons before, and suddenly a few people do, just like I mentioned in an earlier post.

If everyone suddenly switches to Swan, we'll know he's innocent, or that the crazies are just voting for one of their own, and will switch their votes in the last few minutes. Doing the latter, however, will definitely show who is truely crazy.

@Jeepnut: There is my reasoning. If you do not think that this is suspicious, I'd like to know why so that I can adjust my vote accordingly. I'm providing very good logical reasoning, especially for a first round pick.

edit: And one more thing, saying that "nothing is apparent in the first round" is a lie. The crazy people know who each other are, which makes a few things very apparent.

[flunkie44]

Hmm.

!retract Germy

!vote Swan

[Fyacin]

!retract Swan

Gah, now I can't decide who is creeping me out more, Vampyr or Typhoid.

*edit

Or jeepnut! Everyone seems to change after he posts!

[manasecret]

As Jeepnut said, now that Sir Uber is participating, the cause is lost for him. So for now, I !retract Uber Paddler.

And I randomly choose, oh, I don't know, !vote Teuthida.

[jeepnut]

I don't know about the others, but the reason I'm not voting for Swan is because YOU said we should. You picked him out of thin air and expected the rest of us to jump onboard. Now, your convincing the more gullible ones among us that anyone who doesn't go along with your vote is a loony toon. You have provided no evidence. You've just stated that if we want to prove Swan is innocent, then we should all turn on him.

[Yoda9864]

Historically speaking, tiny green men who speak backwards are homicidal maniacs. I'm not saying this... HISTORY IS...
[force choke]Professor S[/force choke]
:devil:

:p

[Vampyr]

I don't know about the others, but the reason I'm not voting for Swan is because YOU said we should. You picked him out of thin air and expected the rest of us to jump onboard. Now, your convincing the more gullible ones among us that anyone who doesn't go along with your vote is a loony toon. You have provided no evidence. You've just stated that if we want to prove Swan is innocent, then we should all turn on him.

Yes, I admitted that I picked him out of thin air, just like I picked Uber paddler out of thin air. The only difference is that no one had a problem with Uber Paddler, but for some reason people are hell bent to not vote off Swan.

[jeepnut]

Yes, I admitted that I picked him out of thin air, just like I picked Uber paddler out of thin air. The only difference is that no one had a problem with Uber Paddler, but for some reason people are hell bent to not vote off Swan.

No one had a problem with Uber because up until just recently, he wasn't even participating. Can't miss someone who doesn't participate. Swan on the other hand is participating and got voted off rather early in the previous game. I wouldn't have any problem voting for him, but it kinda sucks to get voted off in the first round of both games.

[Vampyr]

No one had a problem with Uber because up until just recently, he wasn't even participating. Can't miss someone who doesn't participate. Swan on the other hand is participating and got voted off rather early in the previous game. I wouldn't have any problem voting for him, but it kinda sucks to get voted off in the first round of both games.

Hrrm, I didn't realize he got voted out first time last time. :(

But it still doesn't explain why Typh came out so adamantly for him.

Or why Swan was so blatantly crazy early in the thread. :\

[Typhoid]

The problem with Uber, is that he wasn't participating. People joined general concensus and started voting for him. Building alliances.

But then he started actually playing, so people were reluctant to change their votes away from him. And it just so happened, there you were - trying to tell people who to vote for, opposed to letting them choose for themselves.

And then you come in saying "No, Vote for Swan", and suddenly have people following you, for no reason at all.

And now, here you are, trying to save yourself with a roundabout way of reasoning, that doesnt explain your actual motive.

[Teuthida]

Not to defend the drug runner, but I do believe that I was the first passenger on this merry ship to vote for Swan. The accusations trust upon Vampyr are uncalled for my good men. Quite illogical to attack him. Illogical to the point of being crazy perhaps? Now where is my tea?

[Typhoid]

Hrrm, I didn't realize he got voted out first time last time. :(

But it still doesn't explain why Typh came out so adamantly for him.

Or why Swan was so blatantly crazy early in the thread. :\

Did you not read?
Dont try throw my name out there to make it out like I'm trying to protect him.

I even said it has NOTHING to do with who it was. You could have told people to vote for Germy, and I would have done the same thing. If this was reversed, and it was for Uber paddler, it would have been the same.

It wasnt WHO you were getting them to vote for.
It was THE FACT you were getting them to vote for someone.

[Fyacin]

But we can't ensure that can we? You could be lying.

[Typhoid]

But we can't ensure that can we? You could be lying.

Of course not.
Just like you can't ensure that Vampyr is trying to manipulate you all under his wing for getting you to vote for Swan, who he admitted he just picked out of thin air.

Those who voted for Uber, didnt pick him at random. We voted for him because he wasnt participating. We had a reason.

Vampyr, didn't.

[Vampyr]

Did you not read?
Dont try throw my name out there to make it out like I'm trying to protect him.

I even said it has NOTHING to do with who it was. You could have told people to vote for Germy, and I would have done the same thing. If this was reversed, and it was for Uber paddler, it would have been the same.

It wasnt WHO you were getting them to vote for.
It was THE FACT you were getting them to vote for someone.

Yes, but I said to only vote for him for as long as it took to see if anyone would resist the change. At first the majority was focused on Germantor, and no one said anything. Then the majority was focused on Uber, and no one said anything.

Then the majority was on Swan, and suddenly a group of people cared.

When I initially voted for Swan, it was due to him making the huge sized font post, and I said "If the majority moves towards him, and no one really complains, we'll know he's not crazy, but if a group of people fight against it, then that mean's he is crazy."

I was more than willing to vote for someone other than Swan, if you all weren't making it so suspicious that he's part of a group with you. Not only didn't you vote for him, which I could never have really held against you, but you vehemently defended him.

And now that Uber is here, why aren't you shifting your votes to someone else who hasn't participated very much? There are a couple. Instead you're shifting them to me, someone who is very interested in the game and enjoying it. You're being contradictory to your own reasoning on that point.

[Typhoid]

Yes, but I said to only vote for him for as long as it took to see if anyone would resist the change. At first the majority was focused on Germantor, and no one said anything. Then the majority was focused on Uber, and no one said anything.

Then the majority was on Swan, and suddenly a group of people cared.

When I initially voted for Swan, it was due to him making the huge sized font post, and I said "If the majority moves towards him, and no one really complains, we'll know he's not crazy, but if a group of people fight against it, then that mean's he is crazy."

I was more than willing to vote for someone other than Swan, if you all weren't making it so suspicious that he's part of a group with you. Not only didn't you vote for him, which I could never have really held against you, but you vehemently defended him.

And now that Uber is here, why aren't you shifting your votes to someone else who hasn't participated very much? There are a couple. Instead you're shifting them to me, someone who is very interested in the game and enjoying it. You're being contradictory to your own reasoning on that point.



You're trying to twist it as if we're protecting Swan.
We're not.
You can say "You sound like you're protecting him" or "Seems like you care about him" to all of us as much as you want to win over your followers.

But like you said, you picked him at random.
So we both know, and we all know - it has nothing to do with it being Swan.
But I await your "It sounds like you're backing Swan really fast" post in return to this one.
You don't know if he's a crazy or not.
You just want to randomly kill someone, and want to see who follows you.
We want to stop you from randomly killing anyone.

The reason now, we're not going after people who aren't playing, is because we have a reason to actually vote for someone now.
The reason of an attempt at blatent manipulation.

[jeepnut]

Yes, but I said to only vote for him for as long as it took to see if anyone would resist the change. At first the majority was focused on Germantor, and no one said anything. Then the majority was focused on Uber, and no one said anything.

Then the majority was on Swan, and suddenly a group of people cared.

When I initially voted for Swan, it was due to him making the huge sized font post, and I said "If the majority moves towards him, and no one really complains, we'll know he's not crazy, but if a group of people fight against it, then that mean's he is crazy."

I was more than willing to vote for someone other than Swan, if you all weren't making it so suspicious that he's part of a group with you. Not only didn't you vote for him, which I could never have really held against you, but you vehemently defended him.

And now that Uber is here, why aren't you shifting your votes to someone else who hasn't participated very much? There are a couple. Instead you're shifting them to me, someone who is very interested in the game and enjoying it. You're being contradictory to your own reasoning on that point.

Ahem. I believe I spoke out against the vote for Germanator as it didn't have much reasoning. I switched my vote to you because I felt you were trying to deceive us. I'd gladly switch it to someone else who isn't participating, but as far as I can tell, everyone has made their minimum posts.

[Vampyr]

You're trying to twist it as if we're protecting Swan.
We're not.
You can say "You sound like you're protecting him" or "Seems like you care about him" to all of us as much as you want to win over your followers.

But like you said, you picked him at random.
So we both know, and we all know - it has nothing to do with it being Swan.
But I await your "It sounds like you're backing Swan really fast" post in return to this one.
You don't know if he's a crazy or not.
You just want to randomly kill someone, and want to see who follows you.
We want to stop you from randomly killing anyone.

The reason now, we're not going after people who aren't playing, is because we have a reason to actually vote for someone now.
The reason of an attempt at blatent manipulation.

You sound like you're trying to be manipulative, actually. You're voting for one of the most active people in the game at the moment, a person who I know isn't crazy. It seems odd you would go from voting for the least active person to possibly the most active person, unless that active person is seriously onto whatever you're up to, and endangering your plans.

I'm not being manipulative, all I did was present a plan, one with some logic behind it (or as much logic as is possible under the circumstances). I presented a -reason- for doing it, it was up to everyone else if they wanted to follow this plan or not.

I have not contacted anyone outside of the messages I've posted in this thread, everyone here knows that. I haven't sent conniving PM's trying to sway people to my side, I just presented a plan and let it be.

Now suddenly, when people start following the plan I presented, you and a few others jump all over -me- for being manipulative.

Edit:
@Jeepnut: I actually spoke out against voting Germy off in the post right before yours, when I switched from you to Uber, and you did the same. We had similar reasoning at that point. I would have remained perfectly healthy if I had just remained with the banddwagon, but the sudden shift of votes seemed way to suspicious to me.

[Fyacin]

So, erm. Have any of you mates considered that acting like a homicidal mob is probably exactly what these crazies want us to do?

!Clarification Do we have to kill someone?

[flunkie44]

http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/Ec&Ev_Distance_learning/fighting.jpg

[jeepnut]

So, erm. Have any of you mates considered that acting like a homicidal mob is probably exactly what these crazies want us to do?

!Clarification Do we have to kill someone?

Yes, we have to kill someone.

[Vampyr]

Well, we'll see how this goes over night. I'm off to bed, will probably be back on around 7:30 or 8 AM tomorrow.

[uber_paddler]

Ok, this clusterfuck is not conducive to decision-making, so !retract Swan.

[manasecret]

Remember the lesson from the last game, my good men. It was the Others who kept quiet and didn't theorize much at all. The Innocents, on the other hand, theorized left and right trying to figure out who the Others were. Theorizing a lot makes you look suspicious, and so we ended up voting off Innocents who were suspicious only because they said a lot. It was a few rounds in before we figured out that the ones saying the most were probably innocent.

Perhaps the crazies know that, and have thus switched their strategy to fool everyone. They certainly know it now that I said it. But I still think it makes more sense to try to go along and be noticed as little as possible.

More than anything else, however, I am intrigued by the mechanics of this game. Not knowing the state of sanity of those we vote off puts the Sanes at a disadvantage. Thus, in order to even it out for the Sanes, the Crazies would also have to have some kind of disadvantage.

My question is, what is the Crazies' disadvantage?

Seems like the most likely possibility, considering Sir Dylflon's reluctance to clarify it, is that the Crazies don't know who the other Crazies are, as the Others did in the last game.

I also believe Sir Dylflon said something along those lines when he first wrote about this new game at the end of the last game.

[flunkie44]

!retract Swan

I was just trying to look cool since everyone seemed to be doing it.

[jeepnut]

Remember the lesson from the last game, my good men. It was the Others who kept quiet and didn't theorize much at all. The Innocents, on the other hand, theorized left and right trying to figure out who the Others were. Theorizing a lot makes you look suspicious, and so we ended up voting off Innocents who were suspicious only because they said a lot. It was a few rounds in before we figured out that the ones saying the most were probably innocent.

Perhaps the crazies know that, and have thus switched their strategy to fool everyone. They certainly know it now that I said it. But I still think it makes more sense to try to go along and be noticed as little as possible.

More than anything else, however, I am intrigued by the mechanics of this game. Not knowing the state of sanity of those we vote off puts the Sanes at a disadvantage. Thus, in order to even it out for the Sanes, the Crazies would also have to have some kind of disadvantage.

My question is, what is the Crazies' disadvantage?

Seems like the most likely possibility, considering Sir Dylflon's reluctance to clarify it, is that the Crazies don't know who the other Crazies are, as the Others did in the last game.

I also believe Sir Dylflon said something along those lines when he first wrote about this new game at the end of the last game.

The crazies disadvantage may also be numbers. Maybe there are a lot fewer of them this round.

Also, speaking as an Other from the previous game, I can confirm your assessment of our strategy. Honestly, the more active people stick in your mind, so you think to vote for them. It behooves the bad guys to remain as unnoticed as possible so that people look them over. That was my goal. The innocents on the other hand are trying to anyway possible to rationalize their movements to the others so as to not draw ire.

[flunkie44]

The crazies disadvantage may also be numbers. Maybe there are a lot fewer of them this round.

How would you know?

Jeepnut's crazy confirmed.

[The Germanator]

This game of Mafia is brilliant! As of today I was positive the crazies were going to vote me off, but I have been redeemed by many pages of interesting reasoning. Thank you. You made the right choice.

Sincerely,

Captain Germanator.

[Angrist]

Ok, here's everybody's post count in this thread:

Fyacin 22
jeepnut 22
Vampyr 16
Typhoid 15
Dyne 10
manasecret 10
flunkie44 9
Angrist 9
Swan 8
Dylflon 6
The Germanator 5
uber_paddler 5
Combine 017 5
Yoda9864 4
Bube 4
thatmariolover 3
Teuthida 3
GameMaster 2
Professor S 2
Aladuf 2

Maybe the madmen are trying a different strategy this round, by being very active (I think that's what happened in the first game, The Thing). But still, if you're suspicious, it's scary to come out of your shell.
We'll see. :) I'm really wondering how this will work out.

[Combine 017]

This is what Vampyr wants. It is what he does.


He manipulates you. He controls you while making it seems like you have a choice. Fight back my friends

He didnt control me. I made my post against you before I even looked back at other peoples comments. You attacked me with a quote from somebody else, dont think that retracting your vote from me will save you from your own incompetence. The fact is that you've incurred the wrath of the Combine Overwatch. The best you can do now is hope for death.

[Bube]

I think Vampyr's lying. I hope to have more on this subject before the deadline.

[Vampyr]

If everyone agrees that the innocent people are usually the most active, then why the deuce is everyone piling on me for? I hope to not be voted out this round, as I'm enjoying the game and it gives me something fun to do at work, but if I am at least I can come back in the end and be like "haha, told you so."

Really, you think "Vampyr's lying". Lying about what?! I haven't said anything to be lying about! All you saw was Tyhpoid saying I was being manipulative, and then went with that. All I did was put forth a plan, "Pick a random person to vote for, and see if it gets a reaction." Which we did, and it did. I haven't made any -statements- to be considered, lying, though.

All I did was post a plan and a suggestion as to what it might mean.

But if you read through the posts, it becomes very clear that if I were a crazy, I would have nothing to gain from saying what I said. No one came to my defense when votes started shifting towards me, they just said things like "Eh, Vampyr might be acting suspicious." If I were a crazy, where are all my friends to help bail me out of this? I think everyone who was following my plan of casting a vote for Swan has pretty much retracted anyway.

And it's true that the crazies might not know who each other are, but the game is called MAFIA, one group has to be the Mafia. It would sort of kill the idea of the game if that group didn't know who each other was.

[Vampyr]

On second thought, if the crazies are the ones that don't post, then why am I voting for Swan?

There are a few people who have not posted very much at all:

Professor S (who is pretty much always a bad guy), Angrist, ThatMarioLover, Aladuf, Yoda, and to a certain extent, Dyne and Bube.

I'm going to go with the Prof.

!Retract Swan

!Vote Professor S

Although I still think Swan is highly suspicious, and this vote could change again later. But if we're going to assume that one of the crazies is someone who isn't posting very much, I'm going to assume one of those people.

[Bube]

Just because we didn't take part in your discussion with Typh doesn't mean we don't post. It just seems like that in comparison :)

And you did make a statement that could be a lie. I said that I "think" you're lying, and I didn't vote for you (yet) :)

Everybody lies here. %80 percent of all things said is a lie.

And come on Vamp, no hard feelings.. Since we don't know anything, we're just clinging onto every little thing and making up theories. It's not like we hate you :)

[Vampyr]

I understand, it just seems like my theory is the one that makes the most sense. :\

Voting for me because I HAVE a theory is what I don't understand, especially since the vast majority of the people are starting to do that, and no one is complaining that I'm receiving votes, yet there -were- people complaining when Swan was receiving votes.

If I am crazy, where are my comrades? All I'm asking is that you read over the thread and see everything that was written, and trust your intuition. If you really read, you'll see that as a Crazy person I would have nothing to gain from instigating this, that all I did was present a logical plan, and the fact that suddenly a lot of people are voting for me is very suspicious.

[Angrist]

Could somebody do a vote count? I already did one.

Based on the posts, there are some people I trust, but way more who I don't trust.

For the time being, I'll !vote Flunkie44

[Vampyr]

Okay, I just read back over the votes and tallied them. Reading through the thread since about page 8, I think it's really obvious that Swan, and probably Jeepnut and Typhoid with him, are crazy. Jeepnut is only a maybe, though. He seems to genuinely be concerned about who's being an active player.

@Jeepnut: I think you also need to think about the implications of voting like that. You think that the first round is nothing but random choices, but it's NOT. The Crazy people probably know who each other are, and based on voting patterns you can at least make an educated guess rather than a random choice.

So, I

!Retract Professor S (even though I think he's suspicious)

and

!vote Swan

And the current tally is:

Uber: 4
Germantor: 1
Swan: 3
Yoda: 1
Vampyr: 4
Professor S: 1
Teuthida: 1
Flunkie: 1
Combine: 0 (Listing him because someone voted for him and then retracted)

[uber_paddler]

I don't like it when people try to manipulate people, so on that basis I !vote Vampyr.

[Vampyr]

I don't like it when people try to manipulate people, so on that basis I !vote Vampyr.

Except I never tried to manipulate anyone, try to find an example of this, please.

!Retract Swan

!vote Uber Paddler

I don't like it when people stack their votes onto someone just to save their own skin.

[Angrist]

Hm... with such a close call, you'd expect the crazy peeps to defend their team mate by voting for an innocent man. Instead of letting them both die.

Maybe they're both innocent and we have a lot of laughing thirds here.
But I expect the votes to change in the next hours. We'll see. :) I'll stick with Flunkie44, because he hasn't posted much, but those few posts were a bit nervous.

[Vampyr]

Hm... with such a close call, you'd expect the crazy peeps to defend their team mate by voting for an innocent man. Instead of letting them both die.

Maybe they're both innocent and we have a lot of laughing thirds here.
But I expect the votes to change in the next hours. We'll see. :) I'll stick with Flunkie44, because he hasn't posted much, but those few posts were a bit nervous.

I actually do think we're both innocent, but I'm not going to let Uber just pwn me like that. :mad:

And retaliating with a vote to him is the only way to stay alive. I still think Swan is a crazy (along with some people like Gamemaster and Prof. S who are flying under the radar). Flunkie is a possibility too, he hasn't posted very much and seems to just go with the crowd on most things. His vote for Swan could have just been a decoy, he changed it pretty quickly.

But unless we can get some support for someone else, I can't afford to change my vote. :(

[uber_paddler]

Yup, sounds about right, lol.

[manasecret]

Hmm, for now I am liking the swan theory.

!vote Swan

Be careful there, sir. You didn't retract your previous vote of Germy. Just letting you know, your votes may not count after that if you don't put the retraction before your vote. An edit would do I'm sure.

EDIT: Oops, I beg your pardon, sir. I see that you retracted in a separate post. Forgive me.

[Vampyr]

Yup, sounds about right, lol.

If you have an idea of someone to vote for, possibly someone who's not been posting much to avoid suspicion, I'll change my vote to them if you do. It needs to be someone we have a possibility of voting off, though, not someone who only has zero votes. Swan is a possibility, but Yoda, Prof S, Flunkie, and Gamemaster have also been quiet.


EDIT: In addition to what Manasecret said, be very sure to post your retractions. It makes it about 100x easier to tally up the votes.

[manasecret]

Recounted from the beginning:

Vampyr 5
Uber 5
Swan 4
ProfS 1
Yoda 1
Fyacin 1
Flunkie 1
Germy 1
Teuthida 1

[Vampyr]

Recounted from the beginning:

Vampyr 5
Uber 5
Swan 4
ProfS 1
Yoda 1
Fyacin 1
Flunkie 1
Germy 1
Teuthida 1

Didn't realize Swan had 4 votes. I guess I'd rather be tied with someone I think is Crazy than someone I don't think is.

!Retract Uber

!Vote Swan

New Tally:

Vampyr 5
Uber 4
Swan 5
ProfS 1
Yoda 1
Fyacin 1
Flunkie 1
Germy 1
Teuthida 1

[flunkie44]

!vote Vampyr

Normally I wouldn't think of you to be that suspicious, but doing all this posting and switching around your vote and such has made me think otherwise.

[Vampyr]

!vote Vampyr

Normally I wouldn't think of you to be that suspicious, but doing all this posting and switching around your vote and such has made me think otherwise.

Other than the fact that that's exactly what the bad guys HAVEN'T done in the past?

And that there isn't a group of people that seem to be working with the me?

[jeepnut]

Well, I don't feel good about voting for Vampyr. I don't quite trust him (not sure I ever will considering the deep aversion some take to him based on his actions in the first game), but his posts and the actions of the others don't indicate to me that he's crazy.

I !retract Vampyr

I will not vote for Swan. I don't care, crazy or not. He got voted out in the first round of the previous game and that fate should not befall the same person twice.

Based on my actions from the previous game as an other, Professor S's actions are suspicious. He voted early for someone who didn't look likely to be voted out and has only shown up once since. At least last game, that's what we did in the early rounds. Voted for someone of no consequence, made a minimal appearance, and tried to stay low. Last game, Professor S was actively theorizing and deep in discussion with the other survivors. This round, he's hardly saying anything at all. Maybe this is because his theories were way off base last round, but I'm suspicious.

!vote Professor S

I'm sure all this theorizing is going to get me targeted by the crazies. If any of my guesses are correct, look for me to be killed rather quickly by the nutjobs.

[Vampyr]

Well, I don't feel good about voting for Vampyr. I don't quite trust him (not sure I ever will considering the deep aversion some take to him based on his actions in the first game), but his posts and the actions of the others don't indicate to me that he's crazy.

I !retract Vampyr

I will not vote for Swan. I don't care, crazy or not. He got voted out in the first round of the previous game and that fate should not befall the same person twice.

Based on my actions from the previous game as an other, Professor S's actions are suspicious. He voted early for someone who didn't look likely to be voted out and has only shown up once since. At least last game, that's what we did in the early rounds. Voted for someone of no consequence, made a minimal appearance, and tried to stay low. Last game, Professor S was actively theorizing and deep in discussion with the other survivors. This round, he's hardly saying anything at all. Maybe this is because his theories were way off base last round, but I'm suspicious.

!vote Professor S

I'm sure all this theorizing is going to get me targeted by the crazies. If any of my guesses are correct, look for me to be killed rather quickly by the nutjobs.

I completely agree with you about Professor S, the only reason I retracted my vote from him was because there weren't enough other people voting for him for it to be worth anything. I'll go ahead and put my vote back on him, though. Maybe some other people will come along before the end of the voting round and notice.

I !retract Swan

!vote Professor S

[Vampyr]

New Tally, based off of Manasecret's last one.

Vampyr 5
Uber 4
Swan 4
ProfS 3
Yoda 1
Fyacin 1
Flunkie 1
Germy 1
Teuthida 1

[Angrist]

In that case.

I !retract Flunkie44

!vote Professor S

[Fyacin]

Ok, I probably won't be able to come back before someone gets voted out, but for now.... Ack.

!Vote Typhoid

Who voted for me by the way?

[Vampyr]

Ok, I probably won't be able to come back before someone gets voted out, but for now.... Ack.

!Vote Typhoid

Who voted for me by the way?

Man, I saw that a second before you edited and got excited that I had a chance to not be voted out this time. :(

Btw, Manasecret said you forgot to retract thegermanator vote you made earlier. You might want to add that into your post, just to make sure the right vote gets counted.

!Retract Professor S

!Vote Swan

I've said it all along anyway. :\

Anyone want to change their vote and save me? Maybe I can help in the next round and prove I'm trustworthy.

[manasecret]

I'm sorry, Fyacin is right. I don't know how he got in that count:

Vampyr 5
Uber 4
ProfS 3
Swan 3
Yoda 1
Germy 1
Teuthida 1
Typhoid 1

[Vampyr]

Shouldn't swan be at 5 with my vote?

If not, I want to vote for Uber instead! Gotta try to save myself somehow.

[manasecret]

Btw, Manasecret said you forgot to retract thegermanator vote you made earlier. You might want to add that into your post, just to make sure the right vote gets counted.

I was wrong, he did retract it.

I !retract Teuthida.

I !vote Professor S.

Sorry about the miscount above. I hadn't realized Fyacin had retracted his Swan vote, which accounts for the Swan count only being 3 now.

[Vampyr]

!Retract Swan

!Vote Professor S

[jeepnut]

Wow, this first round is so much more interesting than the first round last game.

EDIT: Looks like this will be decided by a coin toss.

Vampyr 5
ProfS 5
Uber 4
Swan 2
Yoda 1
Germy 1
Typhoid 1

[Vampyr]

Wow, this first round is so much more interesting than the first round last game.

EDIT: Looks like this will be decided by a coin toss.

Vampyr 5
ProfS 5
Uber 4
Swan 2
Yoda 1
Germy 1
Typhoid 1

Is that how it works? I thought both people were eliminated.

And yeah, this was a fun first round. :)

[manasecret]

Coin toss is the name of the game. I think it is far more fair to have the first vote ensured to be somewhat random by a coin toss, since that's how the first round should be. I was afraid one side might have been forcing their will against Vampyr for no real good reason. At least now he has a chance.

[jeepnut]

Is that how it works? I thought both people were eliminated.

I'm pretty sure that's the way it worked last game.

[Vampyr]

I'm pretty sure that's the way it worked last game.

Awesome. :D

I could still be playing. :cool:

[Dylflon]

Outside communication is allowed.

I'm running behind today and must walk my dog and such.

I shall most definitely write the narration in an hour. Hang tight, mafiosos.

[Aladuf]

Damn this thread moves too fast. I go to sleep and wake up and go straight to work and by the time I come home for a lunch break the thread has moved like 5 pages since the night before, I can't keep up with this shit!

[Vampyr]

Outside communication is allowed.

I'm running behind today and must walk my dog and such.

I shall most definitely write the narration in an hour. Hang tight, mafiosos.

Woot! I hope I manage to stick around, this has been a very fun Mafia thus far.

[Dylflon]

Vampyr has the vote changing record.

Nine times.

Bravo.

[Dyne]

Jiminy priest when is this round going to end. I gave up reading last page.

[Vampyr]

Vampyr has the vote changing record.

Nine times.

Bravo.

Do I get a reward? :mischief:

Jiminy priest. I'm going to have to start saying that.

[Dylflon]

I'm almost done writing the narration. Hold your horses everybody.