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BreakABone
05-24-2008, 10:36 AM
Another fun-filled morning of work has left me bored and thinking about sequels while watching Die Hard.

And I realize the two biggest pitfalls with most sequels
1)Change in tone from the original.
2)Trying to remake the original.

Now, I'm sure this won't be the way with all sequels but look at most of the sequels people have issues with and I'm sure one of those two results will come up.

Die Hard 2 was Die Hard in an airport. Temple of Doom became rather dark and gloomy and enclosed. Batman Returns (even though I prefer it) was darker than the original which resulted in Forever and the other one. The Matrix Reloaded tried to be as important as the original and fell flat on its face.

Even in video games, Prince of Persia 2 went darker and that didn't work out as well. Super Mario Bros 2 and Zelda 2 changed the core gameplay. While argubably good games in their own regards had very little influence on the rest of the franchise.

Just something thought about while here.

Angrist
05-24-2008, 10:59 AM
Mario Bros 2 originally wasn't even a Mario game. And it still isn't in Japan.

KillerGremlin
05-26-2008, 10:46 PM
Spiderman 2 was much better than Spiderman, and X-Men 2 was much better than X-Men. Also, in my opinion The Empire Strikes Back was THE BEST movie in the Star Wars trilogy. Also, I thought that The Two Towers was the best of Jackson's three films.

For the most part, sequels never are as good as the original. Especially if the sequel is totally unnecessary as is often the case.

Aladuf
05-26-2008, 10:51 PM
Sequels can be fine, take a look at Home Alone 2. It cranked the shit up to 11 and it's definetly my favorite one.

And on the gaming side of things Gears of War 2 looks like it's gonna wipe the floor with Gears 1

Renwood
05-26-2008, 10:54 PM
The Drawing of the Three was a better book than The Gunslinger.

Sort of.

Aladuf
05-26-2008, 10:56 PM
Oh shit! Also (idk how I could forget this) Spiderman 3 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the other two. James Franco really shined there.

GameMaster
05-26-2008, 10:57 PM
Toy Story 2 was better than Toy Story 1.

Oh shit! Also (idk how I could forget this) Spiderman 3 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the other two. James Franco really shined there.

http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Spiderman_3/spiderman_3_movie_image_james_franco.jpg

BreakABone
05-26-2008, 10:57 PM
Oh shit! Also (idk how I could forget this) Spiderman 3 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the other two. James Franco really shined there.

I'm sure you said this just to see my bad side, but I won't take the bait. :p

Aladuf
05-26-2008, 10:58 PM
I've really gotta watch the Toy Story movies again, it's been way to long.

Aladuf
05-26-2008, 10:58 PM
I'm sure you said this just to see my bad side, but I won't take the bait. :p

:lolz: There's no bait there, just straight up truth. Honestly, I feel 3 is way better.

Renwood
05-26-2008, 11:01 PM
http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Spiderman_3/spiderman_3_movie_image_james_franco.jpg

seeing that makes me do the same thing as seeing http://i19.tinypic.com/5xqlz77.gif

KillerGremlin
05-26-2008, 11:01 PM
Spiderman 3 sucked ass. They totally shafted the Venom story. And emo spidey...wtf. The only way you could have saved that crapfest is if you got Kirsten Dunce naked.

Renwood
05-26-2008, 11:02 PM
That would make things worse. Drowned rat.

Aladuf
05-26-2008, 11:06 PM
Spiderman 3 was great for 2 reasons:

1) James Franco

2) James Franco

GameMaster
05-26-2008, 11:06 PM
seeing that makes me do the same thing as seeing http://i19.tinypic.com/5xqlz77.gif

So you swing both ways or you react to Franco the way I react to her? :D

Renwood
05-26-2008, 11:07 PM
I prefer to think of myself as a revolving door tbqh.

Aladuf
05-26-2008, 11:09 PM
I don't know what to think of her tits.. they seem almost too big :O

Renwood
05-26-2008, 11:10 PM
One is also a little bigger than the other.

You won't unsee it.

ps never ever too big

never

Aladuf
05-26-2008, 11:10 PM
Oh that's right! You've shown me the gif before, I thought it looked familiar. Fuck... I can't unsee it :(

Renwood
05-26-2008, 11:12 PM
the gif, and the HD self-stimulation erotica

Aladuf
05-26-2008, 11:42 PM
lol that HD video was intense but it fucking broke once it got to the good stuff. :(

Renwood
05-26-2008, 11:42 PM
no it didn't?

Aladuf
05-26-2008, 11:44 PM
For me.. idk why but right when she started to *cough* touch herself *cough* the video just stopped playing.. and it definetly wasn't done.

Renwood
05-26-2008, 11:50 PM
no

no it wasn't

ohhhhh

BreakABone
05-27-2008, 06:36 AM
Just for the record, other than Spiderman 3 being the worst of the trilogy.

The thread wasn't about sequels you feel are better than the original.

Was more along the sequels that tend to fail or don't live up to the original. In my eyes atleast, they fall into one of those two camps I laid out in the original post.