PS3 vs 360

[-alpha-]

Hey guys, I've decided lately that I'm leaving PC gaming behind (or rather the requirements are leaving me behind :( ) and want to go towards consoles. Now, the wii is fun and all, I love playing it with friends, but at the same time, I want something a console at home that takes advantage of my HD tv. The wii may come later, but presently I'm trying to decide between Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. Please advise in terms of your favorite games for the respective console and also upcoming releases. As far as I can tell (and I may be wrong) it seems that the xbox has the upper hand in this battle thus far, although showcasing lower specs, their exclusive games outweigh those of the Playstation 3 and all of the best games tend to be cross platform. The online portion of the 360 seems much better organized and although requires payment it seems to give a more fulfilling experience than what I see on the playstation 3.

Cheers guys! :)


edit: sorry guys, I just noticed I put this in the wrong forum, when a moderator spots this please move it as you see fit

Much Obliged.

[Dyne]

If you've got an HDTV and a surround sound setup, then PS3 is definitely worth it.

[Fox 6]

Mass Effect, Bioshock, Acecombat 6, and many others. Plus as you pointed out theres the cross platforming games and the superior online. Not to mention that more of us GTers have 360s, so you can play with us all!

down side : rrod, but thats mostly solved. Still never say never :P

[-alpha-]

Mass Effect, Bioshock, Acecombat 6, and many others. Plus as you pointed out theres the cross platforming games and the superior online. Not to mention that more of us GTers have 360s, so you can play with us all!

down side : rrod, but thats mostly solved. Still never say never :P
mod? as in a a 360 can be modded? I remember reading about it, but microsoft is pretty good catching people with the mod and ban their xbox live.

[thatmariolover]

mod? as in a a 360 can be modded? I remember reading about it, but microsoft is pretty good catching people with the mod and ban their xbox live.

No no, R.R.O.D. (Red Ring of Death), which is a (decliningly less) common problem with 360's where their components overheat and potentially cause permanent damage. As for modding your system, yeah, you can mod the drive chip to play burned games. But there's no point to that except piracy, as you can't run anything but officially signed games due to the 360's encrypted CPU.

[Aladuf]

PS3 is the way to go, far better exclusives (IMO), blu ray player, sturdier hardware, etc. Also, the multiplatform games are starting to look and play better on the PS3.

If you've got an HDTV and a surround sound setup, then PS3 is definitely worth it.

This too.

[Perfect Stu]

PS3, especially if you're a movies guy.

[thatmariolover]

I'm beginning to wish I hadn't gotten my 360. I just don't use it. I use my PC for almost anything I even consider for my 360.

[Bond]

It's possible that the PS3 may have a brighter future than the 360 at some point, but I believe most of that is speculative. While the PS3 does boast superior graphics capabilities, I don't see it being a huge issue, just as the Xbox's advantage over the PS2 wasn't a huge issue in the previous generation.

As far as online gaming goes, if you want to play games online the 360 has a vastly superior service. I don't think there's really even a question there. Perhaps Playstation Home will be better, but it has been delayed yet again and seems to be facing an uncertain future.

[Dyne]

Actually, after working with it, I'd contest that the PS3 doesn't boast superior graphics at all. The PS3 and 360 are evenly matched this generation and excel in different areas depending on the skills of the programmers at each dev studio.

[KillerGremlin]

The PS3 doubles as a Blu-Ray player, so if you have a sweeet hi-def setup then you definitely should take that into consideration.

However, the 360 has far superior online support, and it has a pretty nice lineup of games at the moment. However, if you're not a FPS guy, definitely go with the PS3.

However, we all know that PC online gaming > console online gaming. :p

[Typhoid]

Playstation has free online.
If you play online, and like to save money, this is a pretty decent thing.

The games for the PS3 and 360 are pretty much interchangable, save games like Halo and Uncharted respectively.


I read somewhere that while 360's commonly overheat (or the early models did) less than 1% of all PS3's have/will overheat and shut themselves off.


But honestly, this is like comparing a black shirt to a white shirt.
It just comes down to what colour you like better.

[Fox 6]

Also important to remember better graphics doesnt warrant better gaming. The DS for example outsells the psp like its nobodys buisness.

[Happydude]

I would say PS3 simply cause of Blu-Ray and because it looks cooler :D

[gekko]

PS3 has been hope for a better future since the day it came out, and still is. Might as well run for President.

Xbox 360 is the best gaming experience you'll ever have, and isn't full of hopeful dreams.

[-alpha-]

PS3 has been hope for a better future since the day it came out, and still is. Might as well run for President.

Xbox 360 is the best gaming experience you'll ever have, and isn't full of hopeful dreams.
well said, well said.


Thanks guys, not quite sure what route to go yet. For the moment the 360 seems to be winning by an inch. I really do crave the ability to fluidly play online on one interconnected service. The HD aspect does kind of bug me, although is it possible that Microsoft will swallow their pride and release a blueray extension similar to their HD DVD one? If that is the case than I may indeed be sold on the 360. Hmmm, decisions decisions.

[Aladuf]

^^ It's pretty much not possible that they are gonna put on a 360 Blu-Ray drive, they're not taking that route. Microsoft wants to do all that Digital Distribution shit.

[Yoda9864]

PC for ever!!!!

But seriously, stay with PC...:)

[Bond]

Microsoft certainly hasn't denied the possibility of an add-on Blu-ray player or one built into the Elite model. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's definitely not going to happen. Although Blu-ray has beat out HD-DVD, that still doesn't mean Blu-ray is going to become the next generation format. So it might be another foolish move on Microsoft's part if they did incorporate Bluray into the 360.

[Perfect Stu]

Microsoft certainly hasn't denied the possibility of an add-on Blu-ray player or one built into the Elite model. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's definitely not going to happen. Although Blu-ray has beat out HD-DVD, that still doesn't mean Blu-ray is going to become the next generation format. So it might be another foolish move on Microsoft's part if they did incorporate Bluray into the 360.

It has sold well enough to this point to guaruntee a pretty significant place in the market for several years.

[Bond]

It has sold well enough to this point to guaruntee a pretty significant place in the market for several years.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Blu-ray constitutes around 10-20% of total movie format (DVD & Blu-ray) sales to date? I don't view that as enough market share to guarantee stability for several years, and it's certainly not even close to the critical mass needed to elevate the Blu-ray format.

I'm not denying that somewhere down the road Blu-ray might reach mainstream success, I'm just saying that's not so right now.

[Jason1]

I dont think I even know anybody who has a standalone Blue-Ray player.

[Perfect Stu]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Blu-ray constitutes around 10-20% of total movie format (DVD & Blu-ray) sales to date? I don't view that as enough market share to guarantee stability for several years, and it's certainly not even close to the critical mass needed to elevate the Blu-ray format.

I'm not denying that somewhere down the road Blu-ray might reach mainstream success, I'm just saying that's not so right now.

You're way wrong. TO DATE? DVD was an incredibly successful format that has been mainstream for 10+ years, hasn't it? I'd guess Blu Ray sales might be around 1% of DVD sales to date.

If you look at the number of early adopters of the Blu Ray format, the percentage of people who have used their PS3's for Blu Rays, the number of million PS3's that will be in homes in 5 years, the consistent price drops of Blu Ray players, the number of more HDTVs that will be in homes in 5 years and want to make some predictions, I think you may look at it from the same angle I am. People were hesistant to say HD-DVD was dead until they literally stopped making them. Why wait that long? I'm not saying Blu Ray will reach DVD success, but at the same time it won't be discontinued anytime soon.

[gekko]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Blu-ray constitutes around 10-20% of total movie format (DVD & Blu-ray) sales to date?

Way wrong. Way, way, way wrong. At the time HD DVD backed out, both formats combined got less than 1% of total movie sales. Blu-Ray would be lucky to have passed the 1% margin.

[Bond]

You're way wrong. TO DATE? DVD was an incredibly successful format that has been mainstream for 10+ years, hasn't it? I'd guess Blu Ray sales might be around 1% of DVD sales to date.
I quote directly from Sony CEO, Ryoji Chubachi:

"DVD and BD currently account for about 80 percent and 20 percent, respectively, of global demand for movie discs, Chubachi indicated. The new BD devices to be offered by Sony include models integrating an HD LCD TV with BD recording functionality, Chubachi pointed out."

Source: Cnet News (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9912874-7.html)

Edit: I think you may have misinterpreted what I meant by "to date."

If you look at the number of early adopters of the Blu Ray format, the percentage of people who have used their PS3's for Blu Rays, the number of million PS3's that will be in homes in 5 years, the consistent price drops of Blu Ray players, the number of more HDTVs that will be in homes in 5 years and want to make some predictions, I think you may look at it from the same angle I am. People were hesistant to say HD-DVD was dead until they literally stopped making them. Why wait that long? I'm not saying Blu Ray will reach DVD success, but at the same time it won't be discontinued anytime soon.
While what you're saying might eventually become true, it's currently not. Just because Blu-ray beat out HD-DVD does not mean it will become the dominant format. And as I said before, critical mass has certainly not been met. Speculatively, I see your point, but I was going more from current numbers.

[Perfect Stu]

Well I wasn't really talking current numbers. I was guarunteeing a significant market impact over the next handful of years. And while guarunteeing might be a strong word because I don't have a crystal ball, I like going out on a limb.

And I apologize for myself as well as gekko...it seems as though we mistook 'to date' as 'to date'.

:p

[Yoda9864]

I quote directly from Sony CEO, Ryoji Chubachi:

"DVD and BD currently account for about 80 percent and 20 percent, respectively, of global demand for movie discs, Chubachi indicated. The new BD devices to be offered by Sony include models integrating an HD LCD TV with BD recording functionality, Chubachi pointed out."
Quoting Sony personnel on Blu Ray demand? Call me crazy, but that doesn't seem the smartest.

[Renwood]

Get an Xbox 360.

That means I'll won't bump into your tomfoolery on my elitist PlayStation Network risen on the backs of lesser online services, and for free too.

And Blu-Ray, etc.

[-alpha-]

does ps3 have hd composite cables as well, or just HDMI?


because my tv IS HD, however, I bought it before HDMI became standard

[Aladuf]

The PS3 comes with composite cables but you can buy component cables for it so it'll be in HD.