View Full Version : LOST : season 4 *spoilers*
Fox 6
02-01-2008, 07:40 PM
Anyone else catch it last night? My brain hurts, but nomore than usual when watching LOST.
great to see they're doing great episodes even after the big 'change' (flashfowards.... or flash backs being the on island part and present being off the island)
show still feels the same, and looks to be a great season.
can tell hes trying hard not to make the same mistake he did with alias.
GameMaster
02-01-2008, 09:43 PM
Downloaded the 720p torrent last night before bed. Will post impressions later. But if they don't explain the four-toed statue, there'll be hell to pay.
four toed statue? your a season behind there.. that was season 2's finale
and i doubt that will ever be addressed directly.. more like in the end when you find out what the island is it will make sense and you'll be like ohhh...
Fox 6
02-01-2008, 11:10 PM
I wonder who was in the coffin in the season 3 finale
GameMaster
02-02-2008, 12:56 AM
You can always count on Cracked for a knee-slapping chuckle:
http://home.comcast.net/~synthoid/lost.jpg
As I see it, they will never answer all of the questions. They have what, only 8 episodes this season? It's retarded. All we'll get is more flash forwards.
well most people are stupid, they expect a character to come out and spell it out for em... "ohh, the reason such and such happened is because of this"
thats not what the show is about... many of the answers are there if you pay attention, and most of the answers you'll figure out when everything comes together.
and they only have 8 episodes done... a planned 16.... so because of the stupid writers thing, its not clear whether they're going to leave this season at 8.... and do next season 24, then last season 16 again.... or maybe have a split this season and wait till they can finish the season or what.
but i dont know what many people want.... the show would suck if they just gave you all the answers right away... there would be nothing to think about..
many of these 'questions' people want 'answered' arent really things that are meant to be question/answer things... like the 4 toed statue, thats more of a clue of whats going on... they throw in a lot of those.
Dylflon
02-03-2008, 04:29 AM
As I see it, they will never answer all of the questions. They have what, only 8 episodes this season? It's retarded. All we'll get is more flash forwards.
They didn't plan to only have eight episodes, foolio.
The premiere was excellent. Best season opener since the Pilot episode if only for the Hurley flash forwards.
Plus, I was keenly awaiting the fated time that the island would split into two factions.
Of course they didn't. Eight is all we're scheduled to get now.
I'm still on Season One. :/
Fox 6
02-03-2008, 01:30 PM
I'm still on Season One. :/
You poor, poor soul.
I'm still on Season One. :/
I don't think you should continue.
Either wait until the whole series is finished, and watch them all in 1 week.
Or never start watching Lost.
:)
GameMaster
02-05-2008, 02:29 AM
Let's talk about the phrase,
I'm one of the Oceanic six.
From this statement made by Hurley, we can extrapolate one of two things:
a. Hurley, Jack and four others are the only ones who actually survive and make it back to their respective homes.
b. Hurley, Jack, and four others are the only ones who left the island. While the rest either weren't able to leave or chose not to.
Opinions? Ideas?
b. Hurley, Jack, and four others are the only ones who left the island. While the rest either weren't able to leave or chose not to.
This, and remember, we know Kate is one of the four. We assume Sawyer is another but Kate is ambiguous - as to who the "he" she is referring to - is, in the last episode of season 3.
Unless of course more serious events happen between s4e1's flashforwards and s3's final episode's flashforwards.
GameMaster
02-05-2008, 03:45 AM
Well, one of the Oceanic 6 dies as is evidenced by the memorial Jack attends in the flash-forward at the end of Season 3.
And something we can also discuss is Jack's dramatic change of mind between the flash-forwards of Season 3 end and beginning of Season 4.
In the last Thursday's episode, we see a Jack who seems to have resumed his normal life and is happy with it. Whereas in the flash-forward of Season 3 he is clearly distraught and telling Kate how they have to go back. At this point, it seems Jack has reached the same level of misery and desperation as Hurley.
What has caused this change in Jack? At this point we can only speculate but it will likely be revealed later on.
Well, one of the Oceanic 6 dies as is evidenced by the memorial Jack attends in the flash-forward at the end of Season 3.
*minor spoilers possible*
Actually, we don't know that. It might be Jack's father, Ben or some other person on the island we still haven't met. Or it might be someone who we thought was dead, but actually isn't - Mikhail seems to be pretty immortal, for example (I'm not saying it was Mikhail, but hey, why not).
Fox 6
02-05-2008, 01:17 PM
In the last Thursday's episode, we see a Jack who seems to have resumed his normal life and is happy with it. Whereas in the flash-forward of Season 3 he is clearly distraught and telling Kate how they have to go back. At this point, it seems Jack has reached the same level of misery and desperation as Hurley.
Wrong.....
Last thursdays episdoe takes place before the season 3 finale. We can tell because Jack tells Hurley that he is "Thinking about growing a beard" which he has in the season 3 finale.
Wrong.....
Last thursdays episdoe takes place before the season 3 finale. We can tell because Jack tells Hurley that he is "Thinking about growing a beard" which he has in the season 3 finale.
You might have read that backwards; Gamemaster was still implying the season 3 flashforwards happened after season 4's so far.
Dylflon
02-05-2008, 01:37 PM
Man, some serious "I learned it from watching you, dad" early morning drinking points for Jack in that episode.
And I'm pretty sure they mentioned that they left everyone there. Not sure the exact quote but something along the lines of having to go back for them
GameMaster
02-07-2008, 05:16 AM
I'll try to do this every week.
Previously on LOST:
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Fox 6
02-08-2008, 05:39 PM
Wow I really enjoyed this weeks episode.
I was pretty much on my edge of seat the whole time.
Alot of What the WTF moments though
GameMaster
02-09-2008, 08:07 AM
Previously, on LOST
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NGCRULER1
02-10-2008, 01:23 AM
What pissed me off was when Lock asked Ben what the smoke monster was. I was like holy crap here we go! Finally an answer to something. Lol boy did they fool me. And waht was with the polar bear in africa???
GameMaster
02-10-2008, 02:40 AM
What pissed me off was when Lock asked Ben what the smoke monster was. I was like holy crap here we go! Finally an answer to something. Lol boy did they fool me. And waht was with the polar bear in africa???
Yeah, and weird how the Oceanic Flight 815 plane was found in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Bali near Indonesia. When supposedly the crash took place some 200 miles off the South Pacific.
Its like the Island (note how I refer to it as a character), displaces things in order to keep its location a secret from the world. Like it displaced the plane, and maybe it displaced that polar bear.
It must be doing a good job because flash-forward Jack is unable to find the island again when he wants to go back.
Yeah, and weird how the Oceanic Flight 815 plane was found in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Bali near Indonesia. When supposedly the crash took place some 200 miles off the South Pacific.
Its like the Island (note how I refer to it as a character), displaces things in order to keep its location a secret from the world. Like it displaced the plane, and maybe it displaced that polar bear.
It must be doing a good job because flash-forward Jack is unable to find the island again when he wants to go back.
The plane was put there by Dharma or something. And that freaky guy Abaddon kept saying that there were no survivors when he was talking to Naomi, so I'm guessing he has something to do with Dharma - I think they're trying to stop people looking for the wreckage, thus keeping the island hidden, and they're also after Ben because of what he did years ago (killing off all the Dharma people).
And also, if you're as into this as I am, then you've probably heard of the alternative-reality game "Find 815", where some guy calls some other guy, telling him the coordinates for the wreckage of the plane - which leads the other guy to the Sunda Trench, where the wreckage is found. Someone wanted the wreckage to be found, and knew where it was.
GameMaster
02-15-2008, 06:08 AM
In the 4th season of LOST, another part of the Dharma Initiative will be revealed.
How the time travel accident gone awry in this video will tie in with the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 has yet to be explained. But for your own security, I will not say anymore at this sensitive time.
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Dylflon
02-15-2008, 02:00 PM
Last night's episode was amazing and Sayid is a stone cold badass.
GameMaster
02-16-2008, 04:52 AM
Gah! So many questions!
How did Ben rise to power again!?
Why does Sayid timidly obey him!?
Who exactly are the folks Ben is having Sayid 'take care' of?
Why has Locke become such an asshat?
When Locke brought iced tea to Sayid and Ben, why didn't Sayid thrash his ass then?
Typhoid
02-16-2008, 06:49 AM
How did Ben rise to power again!?
Because he manipulates people.
Why does Sayid timidly obey him!?
Because he got off the island and feels bad for leaving his other friends behind.
Who exactly are the folks Ben is having Sayid 'take care' of?
The people looking for the Island.
Why has Locke become such an asshat?
He doesn't want to be saved.
When Locke brought iced tea to Sayid and Ben, why didn't Sayid thrash his ass then?
Because iced tea is delicious.
Dylflon
02-18-2008, 02:16 AM
Because iced tea is delicious.
Bolded for truth.
I like that even though Locke is all off the rocker, he still responds to diplomacy.
GameMaster
02-22-2008, 06:44 PM
Kate, how could you steal Claire's baby from her?
You know Aaron is not yours!
Just like Jack, I no longer love you either!
Kate, how could you steal Claire's baby from her?
You know Aaron is not yours!
Just like Jack, I no longer love you either!
During the wait between seasons 3 and 4, I also found out that I don't like Kate. I absolutely adore Claire :) And seeing that Kate somehow took her baby from her makes me hate Kate :)
Although it could be something else. Maybe Claire dies, and Kate wants to adopt Aaron (when I think about this option, I certainly wish that the answer is that Kate stole Aaron).
Or maybe Aaron's father was actually Kate, who had a sex-change operation after breaking up with Claire.
Yeah, think about it.
J.J. Abrams is starting to make this show spiral out of control just like he did with Alias in the fourth season. This upsets me.
Dylflon
02-23-2008, 03:43 PM
J.J. Abrams is starting to make this show spiral out of control just like he did with Alias in the fourth season. This upsets me.
Wrong.
It's getting really good!
GameMaster
02-23-2008, 06:16 PM
J.J. Abrams is starting to make this show spiral out of control just like he did with Alias in the fourth season. This upsets me.
Wait, no! Don't read any of this! You're not even on Season 3 yet!
You're sabotaging yourself!
Although it could be something else. Maybe Claire dies, and Kate wants to adopt Aaron (when I think about this option, I certainly wish that the answer is that Kate stole Aaron).
I was thinking more along the lines that Claire is injured seriously (either by accident or by someone like Locke). And so Claire is there, breathing heavily, not too far from death, and she asks Kate to take care of Aaron, knowing that she's going to die.
In the court scene with Jack, its stated that only (small number) of people survived the plane crash (which is a lie by the way). Which could mean that Claire is either still on the island, dead, or back in the 'real world' with Kate, Jack, Hurley, etc.
They've set it up to make it seem like Kate has stolen baby Aaron but I think as the story matures, we'll actually see that this is not a kidnapping.
The only nagging detail that conflicts with this theory is the way Jack declines Kate's offer to go over to her house when they're talking outside the court after the trial. He'd rather go out for coffee and not see or acknowledge Aaron.
Which could mean he doesn't approve of Kate having the baby for whatever reason.
Or, another possibility the story sets up is that the baby is in fact, Kate's, and Sawyer is the father. As in the episode, we learn that Kate and Sawyer had been questioning whether Kate was pregnant but then she insists in this episode that she's not. Which could be true or a lie.
If the baby were Sawyer's, it could offer an explanation as to why Jack doesn't want to go to Kate's home to see him.
Although this begs the question: why would Kate name her baby Aaron as well?
My theory: now that Kate and Claire are living together in one of Ben's little homes, I think that the time between then and when Kate leaves the island, she probably grew close to Claire and Aaron. And if Claire and Aaron either die, stay on the island, or just go back to Australia; perhaps Kate names her own child Aaron in honor the one on the island she became so attached to?
Whew! I just looked at my speculation meter and I'm almost on empty. I better go to the station and fill up...
I'm actually all caught up now. Had a Lost marathon last weekend. :)
In the court scene with Jack, its stated that only (small number) of people survived the plane crash (which is a lie by the way). Which could mean that Claire is either still on the island, dead, or back in the 'real world' with Kate, Jack, Hurley, etc.
We do know that there's such a thing as the Oceanic 6, and it looks like those are the people "rescued" from the island, so we could assume these are the only "survivors" the world knows of. Claire may not be one of the 6, and might have asked Kate to look after him.
But the Kate-Sawyer thing is also pretty good, and before I heard the baby's name, I was thinking along the same lines. And Kate sure could have named her child Aaron as well, why not?
I'm actually all caught up now. Had a Lost marathon last weekend. :)
I sure hope you're not reading anything in this thread :)
J.J. Abrams is starting to make this show spiral out of control just like he did with Alias in the fourth season. This upsets me.
The only thing I don't like is the fact that the island has become a war zone. Initially all we had were plane crash survivors and a mysterious island. Now everyone has guns and people are being killed left and right. Death no longer seems to matter that much.
Fox 6
02-29-2008, 01:49 AM
Well, mind time travel..........
no biggie.
GameMaster
02-29-2008, 08:29 AM
Desmond rocks the casbah!
But um, I gotta take away a few points from this week's episode for having such a limited cast.
We saw hardly any Jack. And zero screen time for: Hurley, Kate, Sawyer, Jin, Sun, Ben, and Locke.
What is up with that?
Professor S
02-29-2008, 08:58 AM
Last night's episode was one of the best stand alone episodes of any televised drama I've ever seen. Its up there with Battlestar and a select few Dr. Who episodes, IMO. I was beginning to tire of the show, but last night's show wasn't just about time travel, but it was the essence of great sci-fi: An allegory for human experience.
He was saved by the reconnecting withe the one he loved.
Best episode of any show I've seen this year, and one of the best of any show in YEARS.
Plus, you get some answers and new questions:
Answer: Now we know what time period everything is taking place.
Answer: Now we know how Desmond could predict the future
Question: Are the flash forwards not really flash forwards? What if they are the continuation of simulaneous time travel and experience, kind of like what Desmond experienced, but unconcious instead of conscious.
Question: When will Faraday (love the scientific reference, BTW) need his constant?
Fox 6
02-29-2008, 02:30 PM
Question: Who opened the door on the boat to let them escape?
Swan and I think its Michael.
There is no saying that everyone needs a constant. As they said in the show only certain people are affected by it. Hmmm......I just contradicted myself there....He was exposed to radiation.
But there is no guarantee that will happen to him as well. It is just a little insurance.
Say Faraday did have that happen to him, there is no guarantee that he would go to the point where he knew Desmond. Say he went to before then. Was it not said that it must be someone from both the present and the past?
Great episode
GameMaster
02-29-2008, 05:14 PM
Strangler, I believe we already knew it was 2004.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.
Professor S
02-29-2008, 05:20 PM
Strangler, I believe we already knew it was 2004.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.
Oh, ok. I must have missed that.
We know it's 04 - when Jack was brought to the Hydra, and Ben showed him the Red Sox game, he mentions the date as well, if I'm not mistaken. If not, the plane took off in September 04, so it couldn't be much further than that.
Question: Are the flash forwards not really flash forwards? What if they are the continuation of simulaneous time travel and experience, kind of like what Desmond experienced, but unconcious instead of conscious.
The same thing crossed my mind as well, but I tried not to think too hard about it, because my hands were already full with all the things I had to follow in this episode. But think about it like this - Des came and went between 2 different time zones - current (island) and past (Scotland). If the things we thought to be flashbacks were time travels, then what would the flash forwards be? Can they travel both forward and back in time, if we take the island as "current" time?
So many new questions, so confusing.. Although this episode cleared a lot of things up - at least we can speculate better about the main storyline now.
Probably the best episode of Lost - which makes it the best episode ever of anything :)
BlueFire
02-29-2008, 08:00 PM
I'm kinda not digging the introduction of time travel from last night's episode...
Typhoid
03-01-2008, 11:55 AM
I'm kinda not digging the introduction of time travel from last night's episode...
I am.
It's not "Time Travel", and it explains Desmond's ability to know what's going to happen, and why Penny was calling the boat. It may be weak, but that's one thing they clearly tied together, so I'm not mad about it.
Fox 6
03-01-2008, 04:39 PM
Not to mention the whole Black Rock thig at the auction. Oh boy!
GameMaster
03-14-2008, 06:54 AM
Jin... dies? :(
Who the fuck cares that Michael is working as a spy for Ben aboard the boat. I mean, aside from the fact that it makes no fucking sense. But I'm sure during their strike, the writers cooked up a nice pile of shit to explain that. What, as Michael and Walt were leaving the island, did Ben send them a text message with a job offer that Michael just couldn't turn down? :rolleyes:
JIN DIES! :baby:
That was the saddest episode of television EVER.
Jin... dies? :(
Who the fuck cares that Michael is working as a spy for Ben aboard the boat. I mean, aside from the fact that it makes no fucking sense. But I'm sure during their strike, the writers cooked up a nice pile of shit to explain that. What, as Michael and Walt were leaving the island, did Ben send them a text message with a job offer that Michael just couldn't turn down? :rolleyes:
JIN DIES! :baby:
That was the saddest episode of television EVER.
GM - I wish you'd marked spoiler for that, or at least hadn't written the humongous spoiler as the first sentence of your post. Some of us still haven't had the latest episode..ahem.."broadcast" yet. :)
I know this topic is full of spoilers, but you can never be sure if a post is about the latest episode or a discussion on the previous ones.
Angrist
03-14-2008, 11:31 AM
GM doesn't care about spoilers anymore. This is like the 3rd big one in 3 weeks.
GameMaster
03-14-2008, 01:51 PM
Sorry fellas.
But for what its worth, everything I said was actually only speculative. I did some reading up on the episode after I watched it. And it turns out everything I said was only part of an elicit dream.
I'm just waiting for Walt to come back as Mr. Eko.
I lost interest around the end of season 2, is this still any good?
BlueFire
03-14-2008, 11:03 PM
yeah it's good.
....poor Jin :(
*Spoilers ahead*
Well, after having watched it, I have to say - I don't believe that Jin is dead. I don't really want to talk about the episode, and my theories, but his tombstone said his date of death was 22.09.2004 - the day of the plane crash. Which is impossible, because we know that Jin is alive some time past 25.12.2004.
*spoilers*
Here's me theory. Has anyone seen Donnie Darko here? I think the whole tangent universe may be going on.
*spoilers*
Typhoid
03-16-2008, 01:32 PM
If there's a person in a bunny suit, I'm gonna shit bricks.
*spoilers*
Here's me theory. Has anyone seen Donnie Darko here? I think the whole tangent universe may be going on.
*spoilers*
I've been comparing Lost to Donnie Darko ever since..the middle of the 2nd season - although I don't really remember why I started to think this. But, for example, Desmond's time-traveling consciousness seems to fit into this theory. As well as some other stuff.
But this still doesn't explain the mysteries of the island, of Walt and all the other things that have boggled our minds..
GameMaster
03-16-2008, 07:02 PM
*Spoilers ahead*
Well, after having watched it, I have to say - I don't believe that Jin is dead. I don't really want to talk about the episode, and my theories, but his tombstone said his date of death was 22.09.2004 - the day of the plane crash. Which is impossible, because we know that Jin is alive some time past 25.12.2004.
Its a part of the cover up. And Jin is actually still on the island. And even though Jack and Sun want to go back, they can't. Because once you leave the island, you can never find it again.
Unless... Ben knows of a way...
Its a part of the cover up. And Jin is actually still on the island. And even though Jack and Sun want to go back, they can't. Because once you leave the island, you can never find it again.
Unless... Ben knows of a way...
There's too much talk of a cover up. I just have a feeling that it isn't a cover up, and something more complex, something along the lines of Desmond's travels.
GameMaster
03-19-2008, 04:58 PM
Well, it seems like the Oceanic Six were all given a large sum of money. Maybe it was part of a lawsuit or they were just awarded it for all the distress the plane crash has caused them.
But I'm sure part of the deal is that in exchange for the money, they keep hush about all the dead people in the ocean just being placed there as part of an elaborate staging.
I also think maybe they made some kind of pact with everyone who stays on the island instead of going back home. Cause I know Sawyer and Locke don't want to go back.
So if Jack and the other five tell the world they were the only ones that survived, no one will go back looking for the people who remain.
I just thought about something - the ones that might be left behind are the ones with no families,nobody to know they're gone. Jin, Sawyer, Locke.. People would go looking for bodies of their families - but these don't have families..
Damn, this took half an hour to write on a cell phone.. :)
GameMaster
03-21-2008, 07:15 AM
spoiler
Thank God they finally killed Rosseau. That lady was a flaming nut-job. I never liked her.
And Sayid gets a thumbs-down from me this week for turning in Michael to the Captain.
It's finally becoming clear that Ben Linus is actually a good guy. And this Widmore character is actually the evil villain.
/spoiler
Fox 6
03-21-2008, 12:10 PM
Actually GM Id say that Ben is the lesser of two evils, but not by much.
remember that .....
SPOILER
he killed his fahter and a bunch of other people.
SPOILER
What does everyone think about the island not letting Michael kill himself?
Personally, I don't think it really has to do with the island per say, but has to do with the distortion of time. Perhaps he can't kill himself because he's still alive on the island? Or perhaps time travels in reverse on the island, so he couldn't kill himself back in the "real world" because he's already lived past that moment?
Typhoid
03-21-2008, 01:49 PM
I missed the episode, does someone mind filling me in in a multi-spoiler post on every little insignificant detail?
GameMaster
03-21-2008, 04:35 PM
spoiler
It is some time after Michael and Walt left the Island. Late at night, Michael sits in his dingy apartment in Manhattan, writing something. When he is finished, he exits his residence, enters his car, and pins the message he just wrote to his lapel, driving out into the night. He careens down by a pier before intentionally crashing his car into a shipping crate.
Michael wakes up in a hospital, sharing a room with another, older man. This "older man" appears similar in appearance to Locke's father, Anthony Cooper. The attending nurse enters and Michael recognizes her as Libby, whom he shot while on the island. Michael starts screaming and quickly realizes he was dreaming when "Libby" disappears. The real nurse enters and explains that he was found badly hurt with no identification, only a letter pinned on himself, addressed to a Walt. She asks if she should call Walt, and Michael shakes his head "no".
Michael later goes to his mother's home, full of Christmas decorations, asking to see Walt, but she refuses. She says that Michael gave his right as a father when he began keeping secrets from his mother, including where they have been for the past two months and why they have false names and identities. She then adds that Walt has nightmares every night and doesn't want to see his father because the latter said something to him previously. Michael then leaves, and sees Walt (not much older than when he left the Island) at his window, who turns away.
Michael then goes to a pawn shop and exchanges the Rolex watch Jin gave him for a gun and a box of ammunition, then proceeds to a back alley to commit suicide. Just moments before he pulls the trigger, he is stopped by an "old friend": Tom. Michael shoots but Tom avoids the shot. After a fight between the two, Tom informs Michael that the Island won't let him kill himself, whatever the way, and that Michael still has "work to do". Tom tells Michael to try again killing himself with the gun if he doesn't believe him. In any case, Tom will be at a penthouse suite of a New York hotel. A short while later, Michael attempts suicide with the gun in his apartment, but the revolver does not fire. He checks to make sure it's loaded, and, though the cylinder has 6 bullets in it, none even have an indentation from a firing pin. About to try again, he is interrupted by the news on television of the discovery of the Oceanic 815 wreck. The 324 passengers have been confirmed dead.
Confused by this, he meets Tom at the hotel, who is enjoying the company of Arturo. After asking Arturo to leave, Tom explains to Michael that the wreckage a fake, staged by "a man named Widmore" to keep others from looking in the right place where the real plane crashed: the Island. Widmore wants to keep the Island for himself and will kill everyone on it if he isn't stopped. With Michael's help, Widmore's freighter, the Kahana, can be stopped and all occupants of the Island can be saved. Tom then tells Michael that he has a job on the freighter and that his alias on the boat will be Kevin Johnson, and hands him a fake U.S. Passport. Michael questions why he would go back to work for "you people", and protests that he won't go back to the Island, but Tom sells it as his only opportunity to redeem himself for what he did; and that he won't be going back to the island: His mission will be to get on the boat, and "kill everyone on board".
While boarding the freighter at the Port of Suva, Fiji, Michael meets Minkowski and Naomi who informs him that he received a package that will be delivered to his room. Michael/Kevin then meets Miles, who "knows" that Kevin is not his real name. Miles then adds to not to worry as 80 percent of the people on the boat have a secret of some kind. Michael begins to have second thoughts about killing off everyone on board as he has now "put faces with names", but a phone call from Tom reminds him to follow through if he wants to save the remaining 815 survivors living on the island. While the ship is underway, Frank wants to be the first on the Island as he is the trained pilot here, but Naomi refuses, stating that the scientific team has priority over everyone else. Frank wants to know why but Naomi doesn't answer. Michael then meets Frank, who confides that he knows that the Oceanic 815 wreckage is a fake. Frank muses the idea to meet survivors from the crash.
Days later, at full sea, Michael hears guns being fired. He goes to the deck and sees Omar and Keamy, amongst other, firing guns. Shocked to discover this, Michael underlines the fact that it is supposed to be a rescue mission, but Keamy only brushes off the remark. Moments later, Michael is in his room, looking at the package. He opens it and finds a case. With the case, he goes to the engine room and finds inside the case a bomb. Michael inputs the combination for the bomb but hesitates to push the EXECUTE button to set off the bomb. Suddenly, he hears the same music he was listening to on the car when he tried to commit suicide. He then quickly sees Libby that tells him to "not do it", but it seems to only be hallucinations. Michael then proceeds and pushes the EXECUTE button. 20 seconds pass but the bomb doesn't explode. Instead, a note appears that says "NOT YET".
Later on, Michael plays with a ball in his quarters when Minkowski tells him that the he has a phone call from a person named Walt. After Minkowski gives Michael some privacy with the man on the phone, it turns out that "Walt" is actually Ben, phoning from the Island. Ben informs Michael that there are innocent people on the freighter, and that the plan was never to kill them all, because Ben isn't that kind of person. He gave the fake bomb to Michael to show him the difference between a man without a conscience, Widmore, and himself. Even in a war, he doesn't want to kill innocents. Michael tells Ben that Libby and Ana-Lucia were innocent, but Ben replies that Michael himself killed them, the Others didn't ask for their death. Ben then orders Michael to get him a list of everyone on board, report the list back to him, and then disable both the radio and engine so that they cannot go on the Island, therefore saving the people on it. Michael is obviously shook up, but Ben tells him that he can consider himself now "one of the good guys".
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This last episode changed the way I look at Lost. I'm not going to think about it anymore, I'm just going to watch it just like I watch Everybody Loves Raymond. No more theories, no more details. My head's about to explode.
Fox 6
04-05-2008, 07:45 PM
So by now you might have noticed that its in repeats, hopefully not for long. They chose a hell of a time :(. Are any of our new memmbers LOST fans?
So by now you might have noticed that its in repeats, hopefully not for long. They chose a hell of a time :(. Are any of our new memmbers LOST fans?
It's because of the strike. They had written these 8 episodes before the strike, and they were filming them. When the strike began, they of course, couldn't write anymore. So now we have to wait about 20 more days for the new episodes.
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