How to Kill a Brand

[Teuthida]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R98qC0fd_1w&eurl=

[Jason1]

Ha, very nice...Sony has really screwed themselves over. I cant believe some people still think they will win in Console sales this generation...

[Typhoid]

All I saw was the first .2 seconds where it says "Sony thinks Wii is a novelty even though the Wii has sold blah blah blah".


Just because something has sold alot, doesnt mean it isnt a novelty.
Chia pets? Tamagotchi? Pet Rocks? Potato Guns?

[TheGame]

Ha, very nice...Sony has really screwed themselves over. I cant believe some people still think they will win in Console sales this generation...
I can't believe people think they're out of the running less than 6 months out.

[Teuthida]

I can't believe it's not butter.

[Perfect Stu]

but Nintendo Gamecube was the best system of last gen even though it sold the least...right? right?

[Dylflon]

This has become a serious forum problem.

Wii-maniacs don't know how to stop running their mouths. You like the Wii. You don't like the PS3. We get that.

Be quiet now maybe?

[MrCoffee]

That video made me so happy, I have been satisfied for the rest of the week, best video on youtube.

edit; the bets video since porn

[Typhoid]

This has become a serious forum problem.

Wii-maniacs don't know how to stop running their mouths. You like the Wii. You don't like the PS3. We get that.

Be quiet now maybe?


Being quiet about hating the PS3 and Sony for being a highly successful company would be turning your back on everything Nintendo fans stand for: Being as annoying as they can possibly be every change they have to say Sony sucks.

[Angrist]

What you say about Nintendo fans on this forum can be said about a lot of fans of other platforms, mostly on other forums.

Remember that GameTavern originates from a pure Nintendo site, long before some of you guys joined. It's not an excuse for fanboyism, but it's an explanation.

[Typhoid]

Remember that GameTavern originates from a pure Nintendo site, long before some of you guys joined. It's not an excuse for fanboyism, but it's an explanation.


"The way things were, the way things always will be"?


So then I'll become German, and kill a jew.
It's not an excuse for murder, but it's an explanation.
I'll be Christian and invade Jerusalem.
hell...I'll be American and bomb some brown people.


As you said "long before".
So that means for a (as you said) 'long' time, the site is not a Nintendo site.

[Teuthida]

Nintendo fans were ridiculed and and forced to question their entire belief system for 10 long years. And as seen in this thread, it continues. Many people care strongly for things that might appear atypical in nature to what others hold up high. But to call them out shows your own avowal on the subject at hand.

Let them have their Wii-shaped cake and eat it to... or used in a series of disturbing sexual photographs that your friend took and you didn't want to see but he forced them on you anyway and now you can't look at the fellow the same way and avoid eye contact whenever you pass by which basically severed the only friend he had resulting in his failed attempt at suicide but paved the way for an erotic bakery endeavor...

I don't own nor have played any of the three systems, but I did not care for Sony's arrogance in promoting the PS3 these past few years (though Ken's quotes are still amusing to read).

Er, I just thought the song was pretty entertaining.

[Typhoid]

Nintendo fans were ridiculed and and forced to question their entire belief system for 10 long years.

Nintendo isn't a religion...

[Teuthida]

No?

[Angrist]

Nintendo isn't a religion...
Didn't you start that metaphore? Totally uncalled for by the way?

[Crash]

Ha, you know very well when cam and I made gametavern, it was two nintendo fanboys creating a multiconsole site.

I have since become a xbox and nintendo fanboy, and sony... well... I'm still thinking about it.

Arrogance will be what brings down sony, if it does come down.

[Perfect Stu]

but Nintendo Gamecube was the best system of last gen even though it sold the least...right? right?

...RIGHT?

[TheGame]

...RIGHT?

Don't forget, every company that made a system that has had a average first 3-5 months brand was completly killed. RIGHT?

[Perfect Stu]

Don't forget, every company that made a system that has had a average first 3-5 months brand was completly killed. RIGHT?

*shrug* I assume so...that's the only reason why people would react this way.

I'm just wondering why nobody has yet responded to my question...

[BreakABone]

I'm just wondering why the expression

The more things change, the more they stay the same is coming to mind....

[thatmariolover]

*shrug* I assume so...that's the only reason why people would react this way.

I'm just wondering why nobody has yet responded to my question...

I guess because I didn't see the point. You're so quick to point the fanboy finger with only the slightest provocation that generally, it's really not worth wasting the minute it takes to respond.

As for comparing the relative failure of the GameCube to the issues Sony's having with the PS3, I think it's a flawed analysis. One could argue that the Gamecube was their favorite system because they really liked the first party games on it. Whereas, I don't see that anybody could plausibly make a similar debate out of the PS3's software at this point. Most of the really great titles were either cross platform to begin with or are being switched to cross platform development at a steady pace.

Sony hasn't failed yet, they've sold enough systems to keep their head afloat until better software hits. The real question is whether or not they will find that killer app that makes the PS3 irresistible to to the general public. I'm not going to pass judgment, Sony has surprised before and I've no doubt they will again; it's just a matter of the degree Sony surprises and entices the public.

[Perfect Stu]

As for comparing the relative failure of the GameCube to the issues Sony's having with the PS3, I think it's a flawed analysis.


The PS3 was launched A FEW MONTHS AGO. How many MUST HAVE 1st party titles did the Gamecube have after a few months? Talk about being quick to point the finger...

Look, I don't need to point the fanboy finger. It's obvious at this point, and that's fine (well not really, it ruined GameTavern but that's another issue). I find it humorous and sad that this forum is no longer willing to discuss both sides of the story.

[Typhoid]

You find it funny the forum wont discuss both sides?

I find it funny the forum has a Zeig Heil attitude towards Nintendo constantly.

[thatmariolover]

The PS3 was launched A FEW MONTHS AGO. How many MUST HAVE 1st party titles did the Gamecube have after a few months? Talk about being quick to point the finger...

Look, I don't need to point the fanboy finger. It's obvious at this point, and that's fine (well not really, it ruined GameTavern but that's another issue). I find it humorous and sad that this forum is no longer willing to discuss both sides of the story.

I never said that argument was logical either. I gave a response to you, because you got sassy and asked for one.

I just don't get offended by ignorance as much as I do by rudeness. If the Nintendo fanboys were half as confrontational about voicing their beliefs, I'd be calling them down. It's not my job to police everybody and ensure they're objective in their reasoning. I tried that at Funxbox, just ask Bond how well that turned out. Had a community of Xbox fans that really appreciated me on the forums - or at least so they outwardly made it seem so. Until I, the token Gamecube fan on the site was made the new Administrator. Then all hell broke loose.

I've given it up. I'd rather people just voice their opinions and be happy with them, as long as they're not hurting anybody else it's none of my business.

You find it funny the forum wont discuss both sides?

I find it funny the forum has a Zeig Heil attitude towards Nintendo constantly.

And you take the other path. You don't bother picking a side, as long as you get to insult people along the way. Not that your point is invalid, but the way you present it is less than helpful.

[Typhoid]

And you take the other path. You don't bother picking a side, as long as you get to insult people along the way. Not that your point is invalid, but the way you present it is less than helpful.



Clearly.
Because whatever I will say wont be correct to you.
So it doesnt really matter.
80% of the people on this forom act like young teenagers, and it's getting ****ing sickening.

A forum board is not only about game systems and talking about them, but TALKING about them. Not "talking" about them, and trying to downplay them by sales, or anything of the sort. When did how many systems sold become how good a system becomes?

If this keepsup, It's safe to say I wont continue posting on this forum (Clearly I wont be missed, since the forum is made of fanboys), and I can only assume a few will follow after me.

[thatmariolover]

You wouldn't be the first to go (obviously), nor would you be the last, as we both know.

Yet the frustrated, including yourself, continue to post here; which suggests that people want things to get better. I just don't see the method you're using doing any good. And if you know that, why continue with it instead of trying something more positive?

[Angrist]

Typhoid to be honest, you are one of the first who come to my mind when I think of people who "act like young teenagers". What's this stuff with always comparing things to relgion and world wars?

[Perfect Stu]

"How to Kill a Forum"

[Typhoid]

Typhoid to be honest, you are one of the first who come to my mind when I think of people who "act like young teenagers". What's this stuff with always comparing things to relgion and world wars?


Arent you the one who complained about a comic and swore you'd never be back, only to come back?


And those are the easiest things to compare to. Everyone knows that. It's not rocket science, and I would have hoped even you knew that.

[DarrenMcLeod]

"How to Kill a Forum"
hahaha, exactly what i was thinking.

[manasecret]

Arent you the one who complained about a comic and swore you'd never be back, only to come back?

Oooh, oooh! Do me, do me!

Oh wait, I have to say that I think that you act like a young teenager first.


Nooowwww..... go!

EDIT: :) <--- to show that I'm only kidding and not trying to insult anyone.

[Teuthida]

"How to Kill a Forum"

And yet this is the first time in a while that there's been a heated discussion. Well, of course there's the name calling and the other insults and...hmmm...

Things are more interesting when there are conflicting view points...as long as people are civilized about it.

[TheGame]

Dang, the forum needed more people like me, argueing how Triple H is the greatest wrestler of our time, and how Xbox would likely do better than gamecube. *nods*

[Perfect Stu]

And yet this is the first time in a while that there's been a heated discussion.


that's a big part of the problem, though. not enough heated discussion because everyone* is so pro-Nintendo it becomes more like a bunch of people nodding in approval.


*almost everyone

[manasecret]

that's a big part of the problem, though. not enough heated discussion because everyone* is so pro-Nintendo it becomes more like a bunch of people nodding in approval.


:nod:

Ha ha i made funny.

But I do agree. On the other hand, what is there to talk about with games? I know some boards where the posters talk about every little minute thing about video games, but I just have trouble doing that. I mean, if someone posts screenshots of a game, then it's like, "Yay!" but that's it. I just want to play it.

Hmmm why do I come here then?

[Perfect Stu]

Hmmm why do I come here then?


face it, I'm irresistible.

[Dylflon]

Clearly.
Because whatever I will say wont be correct to you.
So it doesnt really matter.
80% of the people on this forom act like young teenagers, and it's getting ****ing sickening.

A forum board is not only about game systems and talking about them, but TALKING about them. Not "talking" about them, and trying to downplay them by sales, or anything of the sort. When did how many systems sold become how good a system becomes?

If this keepsup, It's safe to say I wont continue posting on this forum (Clearly I wont be missed, since the forum is made of fanboys), and I can only assume a few will follow after me.

Yeah...it's been kind of rough around here lately. I find that there's no abundance of worthwhile conversations that aren't put downs aimed at whatever console or company for whatever reason. This pains me as I've really enjoyed being at this forum for quite a long time.

[DarrenMcLeod]

yea, this forum has been weak for the, er, week i've been back.

[GameMaster]

Reinstate my powers. Return to me the glorious era of my moderation.

Give to me that which I so long to hold once again, and unto you I shall turn back the hands of time and return GameTavern to its golden age once more.

[Ginkasa]

Wow, I wondered what could be so interesting about that video to instigate such a long thread...

I just thought it was a kind of funny video...


*shrugs and walks away*