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KillerGremlin
08-18-2006, 01:56 AM
best movie of the summer, hands down.
see it, now.
it's campy as hell...but serious...it has everything a movie could want, and they don't cheat you out of that R rating, it has everything.
SEEEEE ITTTT!!!
Typhoid
08-18-2006, 02:01 AM
Oh god.
I have a feeling this will be the next *insert movie title here** and be a cult classic.
* the movie that had Torgo, who's mutation was large knees. He watched the place while master was away.
The Duggler
08-18-2006, 02:16 AM
This looks like the most retarded movie of all time.
KillerGremlin
08-18-2006, 02:22 AM
retarded...ly awesome!
i'm serious, if you're not a believer go see it man. it was exceptional.
good movie, and the better your audience is at the theatre, the better the movie will be.
we had people throwing around rubber snakes in the theatre during the movie :)
movie of the year? close, but Little Miss Sunshine is hands down the best of the year.
This one is up there there.
KillerGremlin
08-18-2006, 10:16 AM
good movie, and the better your audience is at the theatre, the better the movie will be.
we had people throwing around rubber snakes in the theatre during the movie :)
movie of the year? close, but Little Miss Sunshine is hands down the best of the year.
This one is up there there.
I still need to go see that, due to limited release I wasn't able to catch it out here, maybe in the next few days before college...
glad someone else like snakes besides me.
I still need to go see that, due to limited release I wasn't able to catch it out here, maybe in the next few days before college...
glad someone else like snakes besides me.
well they're good for different reasons, little miss sunshine was just a really well made great movie.
snakes on a plane is exactly what it is.... snakes on a plane. the movie is totally rediculous, and its fully aware of itself, it knows what it is. i say its one of the best movies of the year, not because its actually one of the best made, but because its one of the most fun. Although, my worry with snakes on a plane is if you see it without or with not as good of an audience, it might not be as enjoyable. but i had a great time seeing it.
Acebot44
08-18-2006, 01:11 PM
I'll be getting to watch it on Sunday for free (I don't think I'd pay to watch it) with a friend of mine who works at the theaters. This will make the 11th week in a row that I have seen a movie in theaters.
Little Miss Sunshine was the best I've seen this year too.
Spasmolytic
08-18-2006, 02:24 PM
The Novel... BASED on the movie! (http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/98/e4/900592c008a0d1286b3cb010.L.jpg)
Crash
08-18-2006, 03:31 PM
I need to see this movie NOW!!!!!
Man, I remember hyping it since day one. Now that I actually have seen it, I think it's the greatest movie of all time. I was laughing with my girlfriend the entire time.
ALL PRAISE THE PLAYSTATION, bitches!
* the movie that had Torgo, who's mutation was large knees. He watched the place while master was away.
MANOS: The Hands of Fate
Just got back from seeing it with Dylflon and Fox 6...
Movie. Of. The. Year.
Typhoid
08-19-2006, 11:55 PM
MANOS: The Hands of Fate
I was hoping someone would tell me, thank you.
So much.
I advise everyone to see it.
Fox 6
08-20-2006, 12:02 AM
Just got back from seeing it with Dylflon and Fox 6...
Movie. Of. The. Year.
yeah! This movie pretty much was the best thing ive seen this year, apart from frankenfish.
Crash
08-20-2006, 12:54 AM
saw it. loved it... we all were yelling the whole way through.
every 5 minutes, someone would scream "SNAAAAAKES!" randomly.
We were instructed to say "BITCH!!!!" after everyone of sam j's commands.
complete awesomeness
KillerGremlin
08-20-2006, 01:34 AM
i may end up seeing it one more time this week, and probably again during my first few days at college...
still need to see little miss sunshine and now that accepted movie. good times.
Dylflon
08-20-2006, 02:26 AM
Saw it and definently got some good laughs.
Two thumbs up.
BlueFire
08-20-2006, 03:45 AM
Little Miss Sunshine was freaking great. I saw it tonight with the amigos.
I think if I'm going to check Snakes on a Plane, I'll make someone else buy my ticket. :P
Spasmolytic
08-20-2006, 10:29 AM
Snakes on a Plane would have been a crappy serious movie. But, it wasn't. Instead, it contained a bunch of situational and almost slapstick comedy (the guy in the restroom flailing around with the snake on him).
Before I saw this thread, I was highly opposed to seeing this movie. The next day after I read this, I skipped seeing Talladega Nights.
According to IMDB:
Talladega Nights: 6.6 stars
Snakes on a Plane: 8.4 stars
Is that not evidence enough?
If that 8.4 rating sticks, it'll be rated between 36-49 in the top 250 movies of all time. That's right next to Monty Python and the Holy Grail, To Kill a Mockingbird, Taxi Driver, and Se7en.
See it... in a theatre. But, bring the right attitude, bitch!
Acebot44
08-21-2006, 01:28 AM
Saw it.....freakin awesome. FREAK-IN-AWE-SOME!
Fox 6
08-21-2006, 03:02 AM
i was actually suprised that it got away with a 14A rating here. It seemed to be more of an R rating to me. But none the less it still kicked ass.
GameMaster
08-26-2006, 03:59 AM
I can't believe the attention this movie is getting. I saw it tonight. There was no humor. If there was, it was black humor (not a racial term).
For months, this movie has been circulating the internet in all kinds of form as some golden comedy. But to me it seems like it was a 'serious action' movie and I think that's what the creators intended it to be.
I don't know, maybe I need a second viewing?
KillerGremlin
08-26-2006, 05:54 AM
it was funny because it was serious...campy, good stuff.
Typhoid
08-26-2006, 10:06 AM
This is up there with Manos: The Hands of Fate for one of the stupidest movies, yet still gaining a following.
DeathsHand
08-27-2006, 07:28 PM
From 1st place to 8th place... (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/movies/box_office.php)
Go E-hype, go!
The Germanator
08-28-2006, 06:59 PM
I saw this in over in the UK one day after it came out and it was just about as glorius as it could have been. Good deaths, lots of snakes, stupid characters, Red Bull, surfing, bad music....Absolutely everything this move should have been, it was. I love a move where people laugh and cheer together in the theater. One of the best movie going experiences in my life.
Perfect Stu
09-01-2006, 11:35 AM
Definately the most fun you'll have in a theater this year up until this point...doubt it'll be topped later in the year either.
Snakes on a Plane would have been a crappy serious movie. But, it wasn't. Instead, it contained a bunch of situational and almost slapstick comedy (the guy in the restroom flailing around with the snake on him).
Before I saw this thread, I was highly opposed to seeing this movie. The next day after I read this, I skipped seeing Talladega Nights.
According to IMDB:
Talladega Nights: 6.6 stars
Snakes on a Plane: 8.4 stars
Is that not evidence enough?
If that 8.4 rating sticks, it'll be rated between 36-49 in the top 250 movies of all time. That's right next to Monty Python and the Holy Grail, To Kill a Mockingbird, Taxi Driver, and Se7en.
See it... in a theatre. But, bring the right attitude, bitch!
I really enjoyed it...but that's a crock. Right next to, among others, To Kill a Mockingbird? That's just not right...
Spasmolytic
09-01-2006, 04:40 PM
I really enjoyed it...but that's a crock. Right next to, among others, To Kill a Mockingbird? That's just not right...
No kidding, I agree with you. And, thankfully, that rating had dropped to a 7.8.
The reason why it got such a high rating was because the target audience was the internet-hypers. So, having had its roots in the internet, I suppose there was plenty of reason for it to have had an early high score (that is, before real viewers got a chance to post their opinion).
When I did check the detailed ratings, I saw polarized opinions (even when it was 8.4). Believe it or not, Snakes on a Plane consisted of mostly 10s and 1s.
But, I took it that this thread was joining the fake hype and making the movie feel large than life. I joined into the mood, enduced the fake "placebo" affect, of sorts, and actually enjoyed the movie to its fullest.
Sadly, the biggest realization was that, with the right motivation... almost any movie could be a Snakes on a Plane.
Definately the most fun you'll have in a theater this year up until this point...doubt it'll be topped later in the year either.
I really enjoyed it...but that's a crock. Right next to, among others, To Kill a Mockingbird? That's just not right...
well, thats IMDB for ya. lol
Perfect Stu
09-01-2006, 06:45 PM
Sadly, the biggest realization was that, with the right motivation... almost any movie could be a Snakes on a Plane.
You make some good points...but I'm not so sure about this. I see what you mean, but I could very easily see a movie fail miserably at an attempt of replicating a snakes-type film.
But you're right in the sense that the concept is far more valuable than the integration in a movie like this...you don't need a genius behind the scenes to pull it off.
Spasmolytic
09-02-2006, 09:38 PM
...I could very easily see a movie fail miserably at an attempt of replicating a snakes-type film.
I suppose I agree. Intentional cheese is much more acceptable than genuine (accidental) cheese. A good example would be comparing Evil Dead 2 (or even Army of Darkness) to the first Evil Dead. The first one seemed genuinely bad, while the other two made fun of themselves and were, therefore, more enjoyable.
But, I think it has a large part to do with the viewer's mindset when watching the film. That is, if someone where to watch Evil Dead after hearing about every cheesy part of the film, thinking that the cheese was 100% intentional, I'm sure they'd fall in love with it.
Evil Dead is cool, as a horror film and a comedy... but it's one of those movies I'd much rather call a comedy, whether that was its intent or not.
If not for the internet hype, I would've called Snakes a terrible thriller akin to Anaconda. Instead, I viewed its cheese as tongue-in-cheek and enjoyed it.
Professor S
09-05-2006, 08:26 AM
This movie failed for one reason, and it was because it was rated R. The studio, in fact, upped the rating to R after recieving online feedback, which is hilarious.
If the studio had kept it to PG-13, you would be seeing an incredible success. The idea that the studio would intentionally market this movie to a younger audience and then prohibit that audience from seeing it boggles the mind.
gotta dissagree with ya on that one. i think lesser rating and it losses the very hype it was gathering. the movie was all about its hype..
if you take out all its pointless cussing, and thoes 'extra' scenes, and the movie has totally changed; the humor of it is out the window. i think it would have done worse with a pg13 rating.
Professor S
09-05-2006, 10:56 AM
gotta dissagree with ya on that one. i think lesser rating and it losses the very hype it was gathering. the movie was all about its hype..
if you take out all its pointless cussing, and thoes 'extra' scenes, and the movie has totally changed; the humor of it is out the window. i think it would have done worse with a pg13 rating.
Sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. The hype came from all the internet activity, which is dominated by a young audience. Older people never really heard of this movie regardless of alterative media hype and when they did hear about it they dismissed it on title alone. They didn't "get it".
So, what do you do? You change it so that your core audience can't see it. Brilliant. If this movie was PG-13 the high-school set would have been lined up around the block to see it. Instead, all you got was the older geek population, which is a vast minority of who this movie was marketed to.
PG13 movies dominate marketplace when it comes to profit, there is no doubting this, the numbers dont lie. Now compound this with a self-defeating marketing scheme by upping the rating to R, and you spell complete disaster.
nope nope. sorry, on other movies i'd agree, but this one absolutly not. thier marketing of this movie (aside from being based around the name itself) was based around its R rating. thats where it gained most its steam. because of needless voilence, nudity, and cussing. you take that out and you get a movie that is trying to actually be a good movie. which this movie was not trying to be.
PG13 and it woulda done worse. prove me wrong. :D ;) hehe (and since i cant prove you wrong either. here we sit.:) )
Professor S
09-05-2006, 12:13 PM
nope nope. sorry, on other movies i'd agree, but this one absolutly not. thier marketing of this movie (aside from being based around the name itself) was based around its R rating. thats where it gained most its steam. because of needless voilence, nudity, and cussing. you take that out and you get a movie that is trying to actually be a good movie. which this movie was not trying to be.
PG13 and it woulda done worse. prove me wrong. :D ;) hehe (and since i cant prove you wrong either. here we sit.:) )
Actually I can:
With these qualifications in mind, the report maintains that the average rate of return for G-rated films is 66%; PG-rated films garnered 52%; PG-13 pictures returned 50%; R-rated films registered a 37% return; and NC-17 pictures had a 27% return.
The premise that the average G, PG or PG-13 film outperforms the average R-rated film is underscored by looking at the 25 top-grossing domestic theatrical releases. Three were rated G, 10 were PG, 10 were PG-13, and only two were rated R.
Buena Vista's G-rated The Lion King, the sixth-highest-grossing release, earned $329.7 million from North American theaters. The biggest-grossing PG-rated film is 20th Century Fox's Star Wars with $461 million (the second-highest domestic grosser), while Titanic, the No. 1 domestic grosser, is the best-performing PG-13 picture with $601 million.
In stark contrast, the highest-grossing R-rated film is ranked 17th -- Paramount's Beverly Hills Cop, with $234.8 million—and it was released 15 years ago.
http://www.teako170.com/dove.html
These numbers are a bit old (a study from 1988-1999), but they actually show better performance for R-ratings than would be if the study was done today. Add LoTR to the mix with a few others and only The Passion might make the top 20 for R-ratings and thats a severe exception to the rule because of its religious nature and marketing campaign.
R-ratings don't bring in as much profit as PG-13 because you severely diminish the viewing market-base, especially when your dealing with a sophomoric concept like SOAP. That just makes the R-rating even more of a failure. If you don;t want to believe me or the research done on this, just look at the box-office receipts. Do you really think it would have done WORSE if you let teenagers see the movie, which is a HUGE movie audience with nothing but disposable income?
Hint: When marketing a sophomoric movie, don't prohibit the sophomores from seeing it. Duh.
That and I've worked primarily in marketing since graduating in 2000, so I know a little about this area.
lol. you dont get it, your missing the entire point of what im saying. i know full well about the numbers and what kinds of movies do better.
as i said, i'd agree on other movies because i know where your coming from with what your saying. but for THIS movie, your wrong. the ratings and numbers dont take into account what the movie is actually trying to be. sometimes a movie needs the rating reguardless of what rating brings in the widest audience. its like marketing a horror film as the most scarriest and gruesome film of all time, then giving it a G rating because g ratings do better. (im not saying g movies do better then anything, just making a point)
no i dont think it woulda done worse by letting more people see it.. i think it woulda done worse by what they woulda had to cut out by making it allow more people to see it. it would entirely destory what the movie is trying to accomplish. the hype would go down, people wouldnt care, less people would see it. it would get know as just a crappy movie. instead of being known as a rediculous movie that knows its rediculous and crappy.
and unless you can go back in time, change the ratings and see the results. then no you cant prove me wrong.
Dylflon
09-05-2006, 01:06 PM
For some reason, in BC it was only rated PG 14.
Seriously, BC has to have the most lax movie rating system in all of North America.
Professor S
09-05-2006, 01:26 PM
I want to apologize if I came off as snippy in this thread. I just realized how my tone has been and I don't know why I did that. I guess there is a lot on my mind right now, with an upcoming engagement to my longtime gf, my computer giving me fits and work getting nuts.
Sorry if I came off to willfull, I'm trying to tone that part of my personality down.
And Null, I do get what you're saying, but I disagree with your association of art with profit. It may have destroyed what the movie was trying to accomplish, but that and profiting off of it are two separate things. To make a profit, first you have to get asses in seats, and the studio directly marketed their film to those asses who would not be allowed to sit in the seats. Plus, according to the research I posted the PG-13 crowd are the lionshare of the repeat viewing audience, which is why movies like Titanic, LoTR and Pirates of the Carribbean do so well. Its the PG-13 audience that have the expendible money and more importantly TIME to see those movies multiple times. When you have a niche movie like SOAP, you NEED multiple viewings to make lots of money.
I understand what you're saying, I just think you're incorrect in this case, and the empirical research backs me up on this as well as my years in marketing. Maybe I can't 100% prove you wrong, which is pretty much impossible in anything you could say, but I'll accept 90% any day.
you dont need to apoligize for anything man, i like a good discussion, thats why i keep coming back to argue it further, this place would be deader then it already is if everyone agreed on everything.
i guess what it comes down to to me, is if you were to keep the EXACT same movie and make it pg13, i could agree with it further because of the rep it got after being out.
but being R to me was just part of its whole image. and to change that, your not only changing its image, your changing the very movie, and as far as profits go, you can never tell what kinda profits a different movie would bring. to me, without its 'bad-ass, rediculously stupid R rated' image, im not sure if it woulda been interested in seeing it.
Theres no disputing the fact as you mentioned tho that PG-13 is the biggest money making crowd. im not trying to say different on any of the facts you mentioned.
Dylflon, im curious about canada, does each providence do ratings different or how do you tell? because i take a trip up to canada (ontario) a few times every year. and whenever i see a commercial for any movie, they have Never said what its rated. Here, after every movie they say, RATED R, or RATED PG-13 or so on.
Spasmolytic
09-05-2006, 04:47 PM
A: Yeah, you should put that in the movie, that would be hilarious! I'd be just like that R rated movie I rented the other day.
B: Fair enough... now, come watch the movie.
Days pass and the movie is released
C: Woah there kid, where are you going? Got some ID? This movie's rated R.
A: What? An ID? But this movie is going to be great.
C: Sure. Wait till it's out on video so that you can rent it with your mommy. Move along.
Typhoid
09-05-2006, 04:58 PM
Dylflon, im curious about canada, does each providence do ratings different or how do you tell? because i take a trip up to canada (ontario) a few times every year. and whenever i see a commercial for any movie, they have Never said what its rated. Here, after every movie they say, RATED R, or RATED PG-13 or so on.
I'll be the acting-Dylflon.
Each Province has enough power to make it's own laws, which is why the driving ages, and drinking ages arent the same across all of Canada.
As for the movie thing, I dont know about Ontario, obviously, but in BC the rating on movies are always at the end of the credits of the commercial. No flashy voice says what it's rated, and the rating doesnt encompass the whole screen, but if you squint hard enough you can usually see it. ;)
I'll be the acting-Dylflon.
Each Province has enough power to make it's own laws, which is why the driving ages, and drinking ages arent the same across all of Canada.
As for the movie thing, I dont know about Ontario, obviously, but in BC the rating on movies are always at the end of the credits of the commercial. No flashy voice says what it's rated, and the rating doesnt encompass the whole screen, but if you squint hard enough you can usually see it. ;)
well yea... driving and drinking ages and such arent the same for each state in the US either. but theres more of a standard for things like movie ratings it seems.. i was just curious tho, someone once told me theres no ratings at all in canada. which i knew was not correct. just never looked it up.
Perfect Stu
09-05-2006, 11:14 PM
well yea... driving and drinking ages and such arent the same for each state in the US either. but theres more of a standard for things like movie ratings it seems.. i was just curious tho, someone once told me theres no ratings at all in canada. which i knew was not correct. just never looked it up.
there are ratings...but i think people do pay less attention to them up here. snakes was rated 14A here in Ontario too...which it should be. to say you need to be 18 (that's R right?) to see this movie is ridiculous...14 is more than fine.
and did you just say "most scarriest" up there a few posts? Null... :nono:
;)
yes, you got a problem with that? you want to take it outside?
Perfect Stu
09-06-2006, 02:25 PM
yes, you got a problem with that? you want to take it outside?
why would we go outside when I have both of my fists HERE...
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40427000/gif/_40427171_start_298.gif
...to play rock paper scissors
ok fine! we will have it out your way!
i pick ROCK! (heh heh heh, good ol rock, nothing beats rock)
Perfect Stu
09-06-2006, 03:50 PM
ok fine! we will have it out your way!
i pick ROCK! (heh heh heh, good ol rock, nothing beats rock)
*browses through 'Advanced Rock,Paper,Scissors Strategy Guide'*
http://www.thedrunkenclam.com/wallpapers/gumble-mmhhmmmmm640x480.gif
I'll take PAPER. Heh, heh...sucker. Bet you never saw that coming.
Spasmolytic
09-06-2006, 03:59 PM
How does one do paper with boxing gloves on?
I'll take PAPER. Heh, heh...sucker. Bet you never saw that coming.
no way, rock smashes right through paper. rock wins. rock always wins.
Perfect Stu
09-06-2006, 08:14 PM
no way, rock smashes right through paper. rock wins. rock always wins.
mmhmm
mmmhmmm
mmhmm
mmhmm
mmmmhmmm
damn.
Professor S
09-06-2006, 11:15 PM
I'M TIRED OF ALL THESE MOTHERF***ING ROCKS ON THIS MOTHERF***ING FORUM!!!
Dylflon
09-07-2006, 02:54 AM
Everywhere else in Canada seems pretty similar in their movie ratings and whatnot.
BC is usually the only province you'll see getting a downgrade.
It might be because the film industry is so big in this province. Or maybe everyone here is just too stoned to care.
Perfect Stu
09-07-2006, 10:22 AM
Everywhere else in Canada seems pretty similar in their movie ratings and whatnot.
BC is usually the only province you'll see getting a downgrade.
It might be because the film industry is so big in this province. Or maybe everyone here is just too stoned to care.
Snakes was 14A here...
KillerGremlin
09-07-2006, 11:29 AM
get off my dick!
hahaha
Acebot44
09-07-2006, 01:07 PM
How You Like These Apples? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd99gyE4jCk&eurl=)
GameMaster
09-07-2006, 08:07 PM
How You Like These Apples? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd99gyE4jCk&eurl=)
Pretty cool, but is it as controversial as the video of the young man biting a mouse's head off?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5322532.stm
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