View Full Version : *BREAKING NEWS* Abu Musab al-Zarqawi... DEAD!
RagedHybrid
06-08-2006, 01:07 PM
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/969/zarqawi0dy.png
BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5058304.stm)
CNN (http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/iraq.al.zarqawi/index.html)
FOX (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198651,00.html)
MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13195017/)
Took us long enough.
KillerGremlin
06-08-2006, 01:43 PM
Wooohooo! We've killed a guy....
...still in it for the long haul.
It might give Bush the break he needs..to put an end to gay marriage! mwhaha.
BlueFire
06-08-2006, 01:53 PM
Wow, I understand that Bush is happy about his death but he's receiving a framed picture of his corpse. I'll always.. find that weird.
Professor S
06-08-2006, 02:30 PM
I actually heard a promising rumor about this: Apparently the recently appointed defense minster is a Suni. The rumor is that the heads of the Suni resistance came to terms with the Shiites and agreed to provide information about Zarqawi is exchange forhigher placements in the new Iraqi government.
On the off-chance that this is true, it would be a devastating blow to Al Qaeda (still have no idea how to spell it).
I actually heard a promising rumor about this: Apparently the recently appointed defense minster is a Suni. The rumor is that the heads of the Suni resistance came to terms with the Shiites and agreed to provide information about Zarqawi is exchange forhigher placements in the new Iraqi government.
On the off-chance that this is true, it would be a devastating blow to Al Qaeda (still have no idea how to spell it).
I would give that rumor two thumbs-up to being true.
GameMaster
06-08-2006, 03:29 PM
Not exactly breaking news, as I saw this on the TV last night around 2~3 ish.
But hey, at least it makes for humdrum conversation.
Why do we need to see the photo of his dead face? Poor choice, CNN, poor choice.
Jonbo298
06-08-2006, 05:15 PM
Because americans want to...as odd as that sounds. "Show us the dead body!"
It'll be the same thing if we ever catch bin laden. People will demand to see the corpse of the guy that messed with people's lives.
Typhoid
06-08-2006, 05:35 PM
Is it just me, or can a few of you really not care less?
Sure he's dead. He's the number whatever guy in charge. But the person below him will step up. And below him, and him, and it wont really end.
Sure, you killed someone. Terrorism wont stop. If anything they'll strike back with something in the whole "Sure you killed one of us, but we're proving we wont stop" sort of things.
KillerGremlin
06-08-2006, 07:07 PM
Quiet you, canadian. I'll be moving up there if i get drafted in the next 30 or 40 years. You're not supposed to have opinions. :p
Happydude
06-08-2006, 07:25 PM
Is it just me, or can a few of you really not care less?
Sure he's dead. He's the number whatever guy in charge. But the person below him will step up. And below him, and him, and it wont really end.
Sure, you killed someone. Terrorism wont stop. If anything they'll strike back with something in the whole "Sure you killed one of us, but we're proving we wont stop" sort of things.
i 100% agree.
Jason1
06-08-2006, 07:36 PM
not Bin Laden...
*shrugs and walks away*
Jonbo298
06-08-2006, 07:37 PM
I didn't want to sound like I really cared about this if I came across that way. The guy didn't affect my life so it doesn't matter to me.
Yeah, I don't even know who he is, and I doubt killing him is going to cause much of an impact in the long run.
Short-lived "victory" for the masses, I guess.
KillerGremlin
06-08-2006, 08:34 PM
So how about them queers. Congress lost by one vote.
They lost a majority by one vote, they still need 2/3 to pass the thing which is not going to happen.
Krypton
06-08-2006, 10:31 PM
oooooh yeah!
lets go USA!
GameMaster
06-08-2006, 11:16 PM
oooooh yeah!
lets go USA!
We do not celebrate death on thiese privately owned message boards! :mad:
Oh, Happy Late Birthday :D
bobcat
06-09-2006, 12:32 AM
maybe they're just talking about when this US guy killed him.................online at counter strike.
If that's the case, wow breaking news. Otherwise.......no comment
Dylflon
06-09-2006, 03:50 AM
I was going to say something important...but I'm drunk and forgot it.
Oh well.
I say we should support gay marriage. Stop being prejudiced, you prejudicy people who want to ban it and get with the times. The times in which we accept people no matte what orifice they stick their penis in.
Although I guess that analogy doesn 't work for lesbians (who also desreve acceptance) because they do't have penises.
Canyarion
06-09-2006, 05:07 AM
When a guy online told me that air attacks had downed al-Zarqawi, I thought he meant the guild Air and a difficult boss in some dungeon in WoW. :D
So anyway....... I don't care much. And btw do Christians have to be proud of killing somebody?
Professor S
06-09-2006, 08:22 AM
To those that think that this is not a huge deal:
1) Zarqawi is the #1 guy for Al Quaida in Iraq
2) His spiritual advisor and 6 other top officials were also killed. So its not the next guy who will take over... its the next guy to the next guy to the nxt guy to the next guy to the next guy to the next guy to the next guy. I believe thats the Al Quaida stenographer...
3) Zarqawi was considered to be a nut job by even his own people. His own people... the ones who INFORMED US of where he would be. This is a huge change in attitude.
4) If the rumor that the Suni's have reached a deal with the Shiites is true, that means that at least half of the resistance is now on board with the new government.
5) There was dancing in the streets when world of Zarqawi's death reached the news, and it was celebrated by most arab news sources.
6) The Iraqi police force looked to be very prepared and was actually a big ally in this operation, which is a nice change.
All of this severely damages Al Quaida and their influence. This could be a tipping point in the formation of a free, democratic and SUCCESSFUL Iraq. We'll half to wait and see, but I'm starting to become optimistic.
As for being happy that he is dead... I'm glad he received justice and that his reign of bloody terror against our troops and his own people is over. I would have rather he went to trial and lived out his life in prison avoiding Big Luther and his thunder cock, but I'll take him getting torn to shreds with two 500 lb bombs as a close second.
Jonbo298
06-09-2006, 08:26 AM
I personally don't care. Because he didn't affect my life. Its a big deal for the Government and whatnot but he didn't affect my life personally so I'm not caring much about it.
I personally don't care. Because he didn't affect my life. Its a big deal for the Government and whatnot but he didn't affect my life personally so I'm not caring much about it.
Isn't that somewhat of an awful attitude to take though? I'm assuming much genocide and tragedies throughout world history have not affected you, so that means you just don't care about them?
Dylflon
06-09-2006, 03:06 PM
I'm more excited by the cooperation of Suni's and Shiites than by the killing of that guy. Even thoguh he definently deserved to die. Isn't he the one who cut that persons head off in the video that got sent out everywhere?
Professor S
06-09-2006, 03:43 PM
I'm more excited by the cooperation of Suni's and Shiites than by the killing of that guy. Even thoguh he definently deserved to die. Isn't he the one who cut that persons head off in the video that got sent out everywhere?
Yes he is. His nickname was "The Slaughterer Shiek". Nick Berg was not the only person he personally beheaded, either.
Typhoid
06-09-2006, 04:00 PM
To those that think that this is not a huge deal:
1) Zarqawi is the #1 guy for Al Quaida in Iraq
So what you're saying is that now that he is gone, nobody would fill his shoes?
Pretty sure after he is dead, he will be replaced. There will be a new number 1.
If the president/prime minister of any country is assassinated, will they not be replaced by the person one spot behind them?
Professor S
06-09-2006, 04:03 PM
So what you're saying is that now that he is gone, nobody would fill his shoes?
Pretty sure after he is dead, he will be replaced. There will be a new number 1.
If the president/prime minister of any country is assassinated, will they not be replaced by the person one spot behind them?
Did you really not read any further than nmy first comment? You must not have because...
1) Zarqawi is the #1 guy for Al Quaida in Iraq
2) His spiritual advisor and 6 other top officials were also killed. So its not the next guy who will take over... its the next guy to the next guy to the nxt guy to the next guy to the next guy to the next guy to the next guy. I believe thats the Al Quaida stenographer...
:unsure:
BlueFire
06-09-2006, 04:23 PM
I bet Typhoid's response to that will be:
"But someone will replace him. This is a pointless victory."
Just speculating. :|
Professor S
06-09-2006, 04:30 PM
I bet Typhoid's response to that will be:
"But someone will replace him. This is a pointless victory."
Just speculating. :|
I have no doubt that he will be replaced by someone, but will that someone be as experienced as Zarqawi and his top aids? Will that someone be as ruthless/sadistic/evil? Will that someone be competant?
These are all unknowns, and lean heavily towards "unlikely". This makes Zarqawi's death a huge victory no matter how you slice it. A victory, not the final victory. Final victory against these extremists and terror may be decades away, but every nutjob crazy-ass killer dead is good for our side. By our side, I mean the side of GOOD.
Yeah, but he was just the leader in Iraq, wasn't he. Couldn't they just get a next-up guy from another country?
Anyways, this godawful magazine cover sums up everything about what I think shouldn't be going on:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4526/front0609060oi.gif
Yes, it's real. (http://www.nypost.com/)
Typhoid
06-09-2006, 06:00 PM
I have no doubt that he will be replaced by someone, but will that someone be as experienced as Zarqawi and his top aids? Will that someone be as ruthless/sadistic/evil? Will that someone be competant?
Again, I will put this into terms of the US presidency. If the President, the Vice President, and the next 6 people who would take over were all killed, would the person who filled the presidency be any less competent than the person in the spot originally?
And my original point was that this will most likely spawn some sort of "So what, we're still evil, watch!" type sadistic bombing. Again, much like if the president and blah blah blah were killed, the US would respond with some sort of something.
KillerGremlin
06-09-2006, 06:03 PM
Lemme tell you, Robin Williams does a hillarious little snippet on the virgins thing during his Live on Broadway routine.
"It's 50 virginians, you *******!"
Professor S
06-09-2006, 06:58 PM
Again, I will put this into terms of the US presidency. If the President, the Vice President, and the next 6 people who would take over were all killed, would the person who filled the presidency be any less competent than the person in the spot originally?
And my original point was that this will most likely spawn some sort of "So what, we're still evil, watch!" type sadistic bombing. Again, much like if the president and blah blah blah were killed, the US would respond with some sort of something.
Wow, Bluefire, you were dead right. Crazy.
As for your first question...
NO, HE WOULDN'T BE. Why would you think he would be? He has no experience as the president. he has no idea what kind of responsibilities or time management he'll need. If you have convinced yourself that pretty much anyone in any kind of governemnt position could perform adeqquately as president on nearly no notice, thats strictly a fabrication and rationalization to support your own political views.
BTW, since your such an expert on US Presidential competencies and power succession, who would be the 7th in line for the US presidency? And no, I don't expect you to know this. And yes, I am just making one of my reknowned smart-ass points. And yes, if you do reply with the correct answer, you did Google it.
Dyne, you are completely right. American news organizations should not be acting in such a juvenile manner, especially in their powerful position. The whole point should be that we are above such petty and inflamatory rhetoric. Then again, it is the POST. Thats like asking the GLOBE to act in an honorable fashion.
But even if Zarqawi was only the head in Iraq (he was much more than that), he still has all the experience and connections in Iraq. If they replace him with someone from another country, they are still starting from square one, and without any Suni help.
Typhoid
06-09-2006, 08:07 PM
NO, HE WOULDN'T BE. Why would you think he would be? He has no experience as the president. he has no idea what kind of responsibilities or time management he'll need. If you have convinced yourself that pretty much anyone in any kind of governemnt position could perform adeqquately as president on nearly no notice, thats strictly a fabrication and rationalization to support your own political views.
BTW, since your such an expert on US Presidential competencies and power succession, who would be the 7th in line for the US presidency? And no, I don't expect you to know this. And yes, I am just making one of my reknowned smart-ass points. And yes, if you do reply with the correct answer, you did Google it.
So then on your first point, no president will ever be as good as the previous? Each president just keeps getting worse and worse and worse throughout history because they have no experience as president?
For your second point, thats pretty lame, for the record. That was even below you. Who the hell does know the 7th in line for the presidency, short of someone taking a class, or actually needing that knowledge for everyday life.
DeathsHand
06-09-2006, 08:30 PM
So then on your first point, no president will ever be as good as the previous? Each president just keeps getting worse and worse and worse throughout history because they have no experience as president?
If President B is shoved into office due to the deaths of President A and the 5 others below him, I'd say it's most likely that President B will not be as good as President A... Or at least not immediately so...
Presidents elected under normal circumstances have had time to dedicate to researching and planning (goals, catchy phrasing of words, etc)...
Even after they officially win the election, they have a couple months before they actually take office...
Seems fairly obvious...
Fox 6
06-09-2006, 09:40 PM
You cant compare a presidential position (or any democratic position for that matter ) to leadership of a terrorist cell.
presidents are bound by laws, regulations, and legal processes. Terrorists can try do anything they want no matter how stupid, or illegal.
secondly i was watching CNN and they had the press conference with the general and he said they most likely think that the replacement is an Egyptian guy who knew al-Zarqawi, and helped establish him in Iraq, but who knows if hes up to the challange. Only time will tell.
Professor S
06-09-2006, 11:08 PM
If President B is shoved into office due to the deaths of President A and the 5 others below him, I'd say it's most likely that President B will not be as good as President A... Or at least not immediately so...
Presidents elected under normal circumstances have had time to dedicate to researching and planning (goals, catchy phrasing of words, etc)...
Even after they officially win the election, they have a couple months before they actually take office...
Seems fairly obvious...
Thank you. Dear God, thank you.
And Typhoid, as for what I said being below me, I've said far worse, especially to you. If THAT hurt your feelings, I have not been doing my job well at all for the past few years. Just remember, each one of my many barbs comes dipped in honey with a side of love... before I beat you in the head with the golden logic baseball-bat. This only sounds like an arrogant statement because it is and I am. :D
On a side note, the Iraqi peacekeepers and Us military need to hop of the good foot and get with the terrorist killing. Zarqawi's death is an excellent opportunity to pour on the pressure and convert more former enemies into informants. If they don't start in the next week or so, I fear that Typhoid's prediction may come true and the US and Iraqi governments may let a new Zarqawi settle in and get comfy. It will take a good bit for the new leader to take control, but worry we may give him that good bit. The key here is the take advantage of the chaos in Al Quaida, create more chaos for them and then give them enough slack so that they hand themselves with sloppy communications and organization.
Typhoid
06-10-2006, 12:39 AM
And Typhoid, as for what I said being below me, I've said far worse, especially to you. If THAT hurt your feelings, I have not been doing my job well at all for the past few years.
Something doesnt have to be beneath person A, to hurt person B. It just means person A is sinking lower than person B thinks they are above.
bobcat
06-10-2006, 01:18 AM
I think B comes before A.......................
in the alphabet that is......in descending order
KillerGremlin
06-10-2006, 02:35 AM
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I swear, it's online flirting. Such a platonic relationship.
But fun to read and jump in on nevertheless. Keep it up.
Typhoid
06-10-2006, 02:41 AM
I swear, it's online flirting. Such a platonic relationship.
But fun to read and jump in on nevertheless. Keep it up.
****, our code's been broken.
Professor S
06-10-2006, 04:02 PM
Hey, we try and entertain. But honestly, I don't think either of us have come across anyone besides each other who can furstrate us to no end like we can.
/me reads post over again before replying
I think that last sentance makes sense, but either way I'm going with it!!! Gotta love my dyslexia!
Typhoid
06-10-2006, 04:32 PM
Hey, we try and entertain. But honestly, I don't think either of us have come across anyone besides each other who can furstrate us to no end like we can.
* Professor S reads post over again before replying
I think that last sentance makes sense, but either way I'm going with it!!! Gotta love my dyslexia!
Needs more Pro nouns.
KillerGremlin
06-10-2006, 05:12 PM
My arch enemy is metal sporks.
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