OH.. MY.. GOD!!! [Archive]

Professor S

01-09-2006, 05:53 PM

http://gear.ign.com/articles/679/679405p1.html

The XPS Renegade is so powerful, in fact, that, according to Dell, its performance figures rank each Renegade system as the 70th most powerful super-computer in the world.

DarkMaster

01-09-2006, 06:16 PM

Man, if I was $20,000 richer...

GameMaster

01-09-2006, 08:23 PM

Oh baby!

KillerGremlin

01-09-2006, 08:42 PM

Yayyyyyyy a Dell. And I bet it's overpriced.

Wait a year, and you'll be able to buy and assemble all that stuff for much much less.

Professor S

01-09-2006, 09:10 PM

Yayyyyyyy a Dell. And I bet it's overpriced.

Wait a year, and you'll be able to buy and assemble all that stuff for much much less.

Yeah, but if Dell didn't put this together now, would you be able to do that? Their R&D = your cheaper super-computer down the road. Its still sick to think that personal computers have come to the point that a single person or family can afford such a beast.

Besides, if this was a Mac you would have to take out a second mortgage for the keyboard... and then immediate get the next keyboard in a month when they make it 11% smaller and call it the "nanoboard".

Stonecutter

01-09-2006, 10:54 PM

MuGen

01-10-2006, 12:51 AM

Yeah, but if Dell didn't put this together now, would you be able to do that? Their R&D = your cheaper super-computer down the road. Its still sick to think that personal computers have come to the point that a single person or family can afford such a beast.

Besides, if this was a Mac you would have to take out a second mortgage for the keyboard... and then immediate get the next keyboard in a month when they make it 11% smaller and call it the "nanoboard".

I agree with Professor S.... truth be told, down the road these building your own system with the same performance would only be possible because of systems before it. Now that the architecture is there, people will be able to either build their system based on it, or just buy the XPS renegade... which by all means is probably the more popular decision considering anyone who is looking to puchase a 'super' computer.. .can afford this system.

Happydude

01-10-2006, 01:56 AM

:whoa:

even though i'm an AMD and ATI fanboy, i wouldn't mind having that PC...although the price would definelty make me think thrice.

KillerGremlin

01-10-2006, 04:45 PM

I agree with Professor S.... truth be told, down the road these building your own system with the same performance would only be possible because of systems before it. Now that the architecture is there, people will be able to either build their system based on it, or just buy the XPS renegade... which by all means is probably the more popular decision considering anyone who is looking to puchase a 'super' computer.. .can afford this system.

I suppose, but the price of components drops pretty fast these days. Dell's mass production of the stuff will probably lower costs, but I feel sorry for the people that get stuck with the original Dells.

Null

01-10-2006, 05:13 PM

Yeah, but if Dell didn't put this together now, would you be able to do that?

yes.

maybe because i didnt read this artical, but im not seeing what this discussion is about....

its a couple of duel nvidia cards in sli mode.

nvidia woulda still made that card whether dell put it together or not, im sure nvidia gave dell a deal on the cards for putting this system together.. but aside from that part... what is it dells doing that woudlnt of been done anyway?

(im seriously asking this as a question, not as a side of an argument)

seems like its a normal SLI motherboard, with 2 16x slots, and 2 of the duel 7800 gfx cards. seems to me this could be built as soon as nvidia relases the card.

but, thats what im unclear of.. what makes it otherwise?

KillerGremlin

01-10-2006, 07:03 PM

Well, my original post before I edited it,
"I wasn't aware Dell invented SLI."

But, if Dell can help mass-produce the product, it will lower price, which ultimately benefits me.

Null

01-10-2006, 07:29 PM

i think dell makes thier own motherboards, but they're just normal motherboards, nothing special... other then that, every part dell gets is bought the same way people who build thier own computers get them. buy the part, put it on the pc.

maybe nvidia made the deal to get them cheaper to dell, AND get them to dell before they hit the market...

sli was around quite awhile ago by nvidia.. then went away for a while and recently they brought it back again.

And actually apon reading a bit more about this pc, Dell didnt even make the motherboard in it.. its a nForce4 SLI X16 motherboard, (and i cant quite tell for sure, some pics look like its 4 seperate 7800's and some pics look like 2 double 7800's (2 cards put together into 1, using 1 slot, but two thick)

it is however dells case..... airbrushed.

i think this could be built as soon as nvidia releases the card.

KillerGremlin

01-10-2006, 07:41 PM

Oh, but you won't get the kick-ass case, which is totally worth the added hundreds of dollars Dell is likely to charge you.

Null

01-10-2006, 07:47 PM

lol. yea that case alone is jacking the price up at least a couple hundred. not that the case itself is overly good, but any case with airbrush artwork is expensive as hell.

MrCoffee

01-14-2006, 12:08 AM

eer...i dno bout all you guys, but all that computer really gets you is bragging rights....and it can power your car...

Professor S

01-14-2006, 02:25 AM

Null

01-14-2006, 12:16 PM

I get the feeling that a lot of people downplaying this PC think that more that 1% of the population know enough to actually build their own gaming PC from scratch...

They would be wrong if they thought that.

1% is kinda exagerating it.

But "Can they", and "do they THINK they can" are totally different. i have no doubt that that most people believe that it is some very hard and difficult thing to do.
However in reality, its buy the parts plug em into the only slot they fit into. building your own computer is actually quite simple. Most people dont attempt it because they dont believe they could.

my cousin needed a new computer not too long ago, so i helped him make his own, while putting it together i asked him, where do you think that goes? he guessed, and i said plug it in. he was amazed at how easy it was, now he's helped his friends make thier own.

Now i dont see anyone downplaying this PC, it is an insanely powerful pc, there is no doubt about that. Its the price and the company that are at question. Ihave no doubt one could build this computer and easily save $500 to $1000 on it. maybe more, i dont know its price.

Its not companies building these computers that makes it possible for people to build thier own. its the other way around. Its the ability to buy different combinations of parts, and put em together that gives these companies the ability to be computer companies selling prebuilt computers.

Professor S

01-14-2006, 05:10 PM

I have to disagree on your "chicken or egg" theory, but I'll leave it at that. As for it being easy to build computers, I have no doubt that it is. I've been upgrading and messing with my PC's for a long time ( and I have no clue what the Hell an "SLI" or whatever is or what it does. I'll bet only about 1% of the population actually does.)

But it also takes knowledge to do so. The difference between someone being able to build their own PC and not being able to is as simple as knowing what you are doing. Thats the same with any skill.

I'm a chef. I know how to cook and honesly, 95% of all recipes are easy as hell. Yet not that many people are really good at cooking and if they open a recipe and buy the food for it, their end product will still end up an unappetizing mess. Knowledge leads to experience which leads to mastery.

I also think the "technology intimidation" factor adds a lot into it as well.

Null

01-14-2006, 07:06 PM

well i dont know about PC's when they were originally around, maybe certain companies like IBM made the entire computer themselves.
nowadays tho, companies just buy the parts from others and put em together same as anyone would. Dell bought these parts from nvidia to build it. and maybe it has a sony DVD drive in it. or a seagate or WD hd in it. but thier all parts that are for anyone to buy.

and i totally agree with you that most people dont know how, or are intimadated, i feel they think its way too hard for them so they just dont try at all.

you see more and more companies apearing on the web that sell prebuilt computers, because at the moment, its an easy business to get into, buy parts, put together, sell at a profit. thats how companies like dell and gateway got started.

and no, maybe most people dont know what things like SLI mean, but thats not needed to know to make your own computer. im not saying everyone will know how to make a super computer like this one from dell. because the better a computer is the more knowledge you have to know of what does what to make it more powerful. But to build a basic computer you dont have to know that much, and you simply learn from there.
But your right, most people are intimadated by such thoughts.

BTW, SLI is simply a little bracket to connect 2 video cards together, so they run as one, but with more power then just 1 can do. connets them like a bridge from board to board.