View Full Version : Perfect Dark Zero "Blew Gamespot Away"
"This awesome, high-tech first-person shooter champions the Xbox 360 with its excellent assortment of single- and multiplayer game types, as well as its incredible good looks and dynamic, intense action."
"Taken as a whole, Perfect Dark Zero is decidedly one of the best, fully featured Xbox 360 games so far, and it's a compelling reason to spring for the system if you've been on the fence. While the game doesn't reinvent the first-person shooter, which has been a mainstay of action gaming for more than a decade, it delivers one of the most highly refined and spectacular examples of this brand of gameplay to date. From its ravishing good looks and totally first-rate audio, to the believable feel of its outstanding weapons, to its wealth of single- and multiplayer options, Perfect Dark Zero delivers just about everything you could hope for from a first-person shooter."
Full review here (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/review.html?page=1).
So, where are all the naysayers now? I'd assume they're going to mysteriously disappear like they always do.
Crash
11-22-2005, 05:55 PM
I'm diggin the game!!!!!!!!
Typhoid
11-22-2005, 05:57 PM
I've never played it, and highly doubt I ever will.
But I've always thought this game would be good.
And even if it isnt good, the first games released for a new system usually are the worst gameplay and graphics wise anyways.
But I think the game would be good, so meh.
Canyarion
11-22-2005, 06:21 PM
*disappears*
:p Fortunately, I wasn't really with the naysayers this time. Well actually I was, but I didn't open my mouth. On this forum. :sneaky:
So does anybody know why Joanna lost her accent yet?
Typhoid
11-22-2005, 07:00 PM
So does anybody know why Joanna lost her accent yet?
Terrorists.
Crash
11-22-2005, 07:03 PM
in the game, she has an accent, just not as strong as before...
the chick in your radio sounds like the chick from crimson skies
Stonecutter
11-22-2005, 07:56 PM
"This awesome, high-tech first-person shooter champions the Xbox 360 with its excellent assortment of single- and multiplayer game types, as well as its incredible good looks and dynamic, intense action."
"Taken as a whole, Perfect Dark Zero is decidedly one of the best, fully featured Xbox 360 games so far, and it's a compelling reason to spring for the system if you've been on the fence. While the game doesn't reinvent the first-person shooter, which has been a mainstay of action gaming for more than a decade, it delivers one of the most highly refined and spectacular examples of this brand of gameplay to date. From its ravishing good looks and totally first-rate audio, to the believable feel of its outstanding weapons, to its wealth of single- and multiplayer options, Perfect Dark Zero delivers just about everything you could hope for from a first-person shooter."
Full review here (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/review.html?page=1).
So, where are all the naysayers now? I'd assume they're going to mysteriously disappear like they always do.
BUT TEH NeNTeNDIO IS BETTaR OFF WItHoUT TEH RArE!1111!!1!
Teuthida
11-22-2005, 07:59 PM
Well they are...
...not like I played PD or Goldeneye for N64 either...though hear they were good...actually besides Conker (which I liked) and Banjo-Tooie (which I didn't) I haven't played any other Rare games. Just know their GCN run was poor.
Lets go back in the past to some of the aforementioned naysayers who were again proven wrong:
Dyne: "I admit I'm interested in it but I just don't think it'll have the polish rare's previous works had."
GameMaster: "I'd say this is the final nail in the coffin for Rare."
gekko: "Can it get any worse?"
Jonbo: "Poor Rare...what happened to you"
Canyarion: "What's Rare again?"
Jason1: "Rare obviously went downhill since leaving nintendo."
bobcat: "Rare?
Who's that again?"
Link1130: "I personally can't help but see Perfect Dark Zero becoming anything more than a letdown."
Null: "i'd be willing to bet money it will be a let down."
AzeaL: "I Can't Remember What Perfect Dark Was, Wasn't It That One FPS Game On n64 Where You Needed That Special Doo Dad To Play Campaign?"
Jason1
11-22-2005, 08:38 PM
Yea, maybe I jumped the boat a little too early so to speak...I mean...did they release ANYTHING worth a **** on Xbox? And how long did they have with the system?
Not to mention, just how long was PD0 in development for? 5 years? It might not have been quite that long, but I'll bet its damn close. When a game is in development that long, if its not good, then there is something seriously wrong with the people making the game, and I dont care that it started as a gamecube project.
Anywho, we all knew Rare is a very talented development house, so this dosent really suprise me. But looking back at what they accomplished on Xbox, I dont think any of our comments were un-justified.
GameMaster
11-22-2005, 08:43 PM
Crash's Thread: 40-Year-Old Virgin:
does anyone have any desires to see this? I am curious what the average person thinks of it....
It looks like a flaming piece of **** – so no.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/40_year_old_virgin/
Critic's Score: 84%
User's Score: 89%
Fresh: 132
Rotten: 25
The good-natured tone of the film and the wonderful comedic talents of the entire cast -- especially Carell -- make the gross-out moments charmingly relatable.
An unconscionably funny sex farce that, by its end, turns into a tender and honest romance, an acute portrait of loneliness and, believe it or not, a musical."
Since Bond is/was an AOL user, I've got an AOL keyword for him: ****ing Hypocrite
Would you like a side of french fries with your pwnage?
1. I'm a Time Warner cable user.
2. It still looks like a flaming piece of ****.
3. I'm not documenting one single comment, but rather years of anti Xbox/Xbox 360 rhetoric.
Lets go back in the past to some of the aforementioned naysayers who were again proven wrong:
Dyne: "I admit I'm interested in it but I just don't think it'll have the polish rare's previous works had."
GameMaster: "I'd say this is the final nail in the coffin for Rare."
gekko: "Can it get any worse?"
Jonbo: "Poor Rare...what happened to you"
Canyarion: "What's Rare again?"
Jason1: "Rare obviously went downhill since leaving nintendo."
bobcat: "Rare?
Who's that again?"
Link1130: "I personally can't help but see Perfect Dark Zero becoming anything more than a letdown."
Null: "i'd be willing to bet money it will be a let down."
AzeaL: "I Can't Remember What Perfect Dark Was, Wasn't It That One FPS Game On n64 Where You Needed That Special Doo Dad To Play Campaign?"
I still stand by my opinion. But then again, I left it ambiguous on purpose.
Teuthida
11-22-2005, 08:54 PM
HAHAHA. If rep was still around GM would receive a heaping helping of rep-fandu.
I remember that I played Perfect Dark for the 64 only once, and I wasn't that impressed. True I only played the multiplayer mode, but still...
Left me kind of...unsatisfied...felt like I had to fake some sort of pleasure...
Teuthida
11-22-2005, 11:35 PM
I remember in english class the teacher asked this girl why she was absent the day before. She said she hurt her eyes playing too much Perfect Dark. Everyone in class nodded it a justifiable reason.
Ginkasa
11-23-2005, 12:14 AM
Link1130: "I personally can't help but see Perfect Dark Zero becoming anything more than a letdown."
Considering Rare's track record starting from SFA to the XBox games (one of which was a remake of a game that didn't need it, the other of which apparentely sucked) I still stand by that statement.
And I have said nothing against XBox or XBox360, at least not since the console early last generation... So, no, you're not documenting years of anti-Xbox/Xbox360 rhetoric, but anti-Rare rhetoric, which are quite different. This is fortunate since otherwise the Xbox's library would be very very bare.
/me shrugs and walks away
I remember in english class the teacher asked this girl why she was absent the day before. She said she hurt her eyes playing too much Perfect Dark. Everyone in class nodded it a justifiable reason.
Oh snap.
Yeah, I bought it with Mario Kart 64 a week ago to get ready for Mario Kart. God, you might have fuzzy memory of it, but it was literally 15 fps in some spots. And worse.
gekko
11-23-2005, 12:40 AM
What do I really think so far? PDZ is good so far, but it's not hammering in the next generation in a striking new fashion. Every little part of PDZ looks good but familiar. Nothing is really stunning, yet I'll be playing it all weekend to get a bigger and broader perspective... It feels decent; not great. It's little slower paced than I had expected, not as frenetic as other first-person shooters; and in some ways the game reels me in, while in others, it's unimpressive...It's looking good so far. Is it great? Not sure of that yet.
PDZ is not going to be the killer app that Microsoft needed and wanted it to be. The level of quality just hasn't seemed balanced enough to be that, and though it may get a heck of a lot better later, I haven't seen anything to make me confident in that.
It's a shame that this game is getting pushed out at launch when it clearly could have used more time polishing and tuning. Then again, Rare's had years to make this game, and I'm not sure extra time wouldn't have just dragged out the inevitable. Perfect Dark Zero is what it is -- something of a throwback, something of a vanguard. It's not a must-buy yet from what I've seen (and true enough, we've had a lot of laugh at spots that weren't supposed to be funny ... there's plenty that haters will hold over it to keep fans wincing for years) but if you sit down and play it, PDZ looks to be a game that can deliver decently over the long run.
Huh? I'm still here.
DarrenMcLeod
11-23-2005, 01:45 AM
Microsoft paid each website a million dollars to boost the scores.
You heard it here first, kids.
Microsoft paid each website a million dollars to boost the scores.
You heard it here first, kids.
What, blasphemy!
But what about our beloved Halo 2? Surely that deserved its ridiculously high scores!
I've read mixed opinions on PD0. Some think it's the greatest thing ever while others think it's utter crap. I've heard words such as "boring" and "wonky" in reference to it. It just depends on your taste I suppose.
MuGen
11-23-2005, 11:27 AM
I can tell you one thing, a review is a review and opinions are opinions. I played PDZ at my local Gamestop Xbox360 kiosk and it wasn't looking next-gen to me. What I saw was an exact representation of Ken Kutaragi's statement.... Xbox 1.5
I take a look at the other games for Xbox 360 and those just look amazingly sick in terms of visual and smooth gameplay. I didn't enjoy PDZ at all...
You can take what you will from that Gamespot review, I stand by my opinion. There are sicker games out there for the 360, PDZ isn't one of them.
Jonbo298
11-23-2005, 11:58 AM
I said that comment because it resembled nothing of the original. Granted, its a prequel and N64 is different from the 360 but hopefully you get the point.
Plus, those comments were made MONTHS ago before we even saw the final product. Hell, if Rare had PDZ playable at E3, I may have said different.
So stop thinking past comments are still 100% current. Things do change Bond
Professor S
11-23-2005, 12:37 PM
Microsoft paid each website a million dollars to boost the scores.
You heard it here first, kids.
I actually heard that the editor in chief of Gamespot woke up with his dog's severed head in his bed accompanied by a note stating: "PD0 is amazing... riiiight?
XBOX 1S TEH SUCKS!1!1!!1! nINTENDO 1S TEH RULE$!1!1!1!!!!! DEATH TO GATESGATE!1!1!!!! THE EV1L EMP1RE IS REAL!!1!1!!! SHADOW GOV RUNS OUR L1VE$!!!!!
WAAAAAUUUUGGHH!!!
BTW, Kameo is getting good reviews, too.
Well I'm glad Rare didn't go completely to waste. Grabbed by the Ghoulies was not promising for them.
Once they release Banjo Kazooie 360, I'm pretty much sold.
Xantar
11-23-2005, 03:42 PM
Considering that Perfect Dark: Zero was in development for 10 years and that it was touted by many as THE killer app for the Xbox 360, I'd say that a ranking of 87% on GameRankings.com is kind of a disappointment. What's really interesting is GameSpot's review is actually the second highest rating there (some site called Talk Xbox gave the game 97%). GameSpot is normally on the low end, but I guess in this case they just really liked it. It should also be noted that as of this post, IGN Xbox hasn't had their say yet.
Also, some might say Kameo is getting good reviews. But that kind of depends on what your definition of good reviews is. How does 77% do for you? (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/516505.asp)
I stand by my original statements. It appears so far that while Rare doesn't produce absolute crap, Perfect Dark: Zero is no Goldeneye (or even Perfect Dark) and Kameo is no Banjo Kazooie.
And let's also keep in mind that Star Fox Adventures initially had really high reviews. But you'll have a hard time now finding many people who still think it's great.
What is up with the hate for Star Fox Adventures, anyways. I definitely thought it was great.
I think people are just wimps when it comes to collecting.
I beat it in a weekend so I didn't find it dragged out too long.
GameMaster
11-23-2005, 05:34 PM
The important thing here is that Bond targeted several people and in one way or another, we've all given him a severe pwning in his very own thread. He set himself up with the assumption he'd be able to wriggle free with some very misplaced and innappropiate egotism. And now looking back on this thread, he's the one who's been ****ed over the hardest. I guess he was absent from the 'ol Catholic school on the day his righteous teachers taught the old adage, "practice what you preach."
Jason1
11-23-2005, 08:32 PM
Yea I never had a problem with Star Fox Adventures either. Its coming in at 81% from gamerankings, and IGN gave it a 9.0. I thought the ending was especially killer. Anyways, people do diss on SFA too much I believe.
Ginkasa
11-23-2005, 10:18 PM
I like how the Xbox360 naysayer, uh, naysayer has mysteriously disappeared...
/me shrugs and walks away
I just played the 360 at the local Future Shop and...wow, I almost wanted one right then and there. No matter what the cost. I came to my senses but I may end up getting one later on...after PS3 :D
DarrenMcLeod
11-24-2005, 02:22 AM
When I played CoD2 at Futureshop I was impressed only by the controller.
Professor S
11-24-2005, 02:32 AM
This is one of my favorite threads of all time for soooo many reasons. Keep it up, everyone.
GameMaster
11-24-2005, 02:32 AM
Though there's so much to do in Perfect Dark's single player campaign, it gets tedious after a while.
While Perfect Dark Zero ushers in a fantastic set of online options and scenarios -- and we expect this to be THE online game for Xbox 360 for quite a while -- the single-player game is surprisinly lacking in originality and innovation. Five years of waiting for this? Hm... PDZ's single-player campaign adds nothing to the genre, but more specifically, the improvements made over the original are minimal and disappointing. I strongly recommend skipping playing it by yourself and instead punching through it with a friend in coop, which, smartly, is included. This game, however, shines online and will make you happy you bought it.
Presentation 5.0
It's impossible not to notice how badly the story is executed here. Cut-scenes fail to make much sense of what's going on. Menu system helps to sort out the bevy of multiplayer options.
So, where are all the naysayers now? I'd assume they're going to mysteriously disappear like they always do.
I'm right here. You see the above comments? Without Xbox Live, this game is a pile of **** around 5 years in the making. Read 'em and weep.
Looks like the only one who's disappeared is you.
Game. Set. Match. Bitch.
Professor S
11-24-2005, 02:38 AM
So IGN > Gamespot now? Hmmm, that seems to go against sooooo much of what most hardcore gamers believe. All of a sudden new sources of information have new levels of validity because they parrot what you were already thinking.
Welcome to politics of the self-fulfilling prophecy.
And Xantar, my observation of Kameo was referring to Gamespot's and IGN's reviews, both of which were well into the 8's. And actually I would place a game at 7.7 into the "good" range in general. Not all games can be life changing experiences. Sometimes good can be good enough.
And Gamemaster, for the record you are a RAVING Nintrendo fanboy, so your opinion means little here.
(I LOVE THIS THREAD. KEEP IT GOING.)
What did Gamespot give Halo 2?
Now compare that with PD0 and your opinion of Halo 2.
I won't even deny; if Halo 2 didn't have online sometimes I wonder what score it would've gotten.
I apologize for not being able to respond to your posts on the hour. Tomorrow (today now) is actually Thanksgiving - a time when some of us travel and gather with our family to celebrate and eat yummy food. I'll respond to your fanboyish rants, GameMaster, when I have time.
GameMaster
11-24-2005, 03:00 AM
I'm going somewhere tomorrow too. I just don't like how you and Strangler lure me into baited threads with the intention of creating a brawl. And just so you know, I received a tip-off a while ago that you two have been targeting me for quite some time with extensive plans that are made in the staff forum. So don't bother denying it.
Professor S
11-24-2005, 03:10 AM
I'm going somewhere tomorrow too. I just don't like how you and Strangler lure me into baited threads with the intention of creating a brawl. And just so you know, I received a tip-off a while ago that you two have been targeting me for quite some time with extensive plans that are made in the staff forum. So don't bother denying it.
Gamemaster, I spend exactly the same amount of time "targeting you with extensive plans" as I spend watching reruns of Mama's Family and Becker. Stew on that for a while, you paranoid loon.
BTW, Miyamoto was the third gunman on the grassy knoll and Bill Gates is the second coming of Christ. Now talk amongst yourselves.
MuGen
11-24-2005, 03:19 AM
i believe.................................... that colonel mustard did it in the study with the candle stick!
?
Typhoid
11-24-2005, 04:30 AM
Why can people who play games not notice things are subjective?
Just because a game gets a ****ty score doesn't mean there wont be people who think its a good game.
Just because a game gets a good score doesn't mean there wont be people who think its a flaming pile of crap.
The online play is semantics, and requires no arguing whatsoever. Yes, every game would get a different score without online play, but we'll never know that score, will we? So what do we gain in guessing?
Arguing over personal opinion on who likes what games is like arguing over the flavour of purple.
Seriously, all of you need to give it up. Games are games. They're subjective. Most of you say you know that, yet you go on carrying these types of arguments and descussions that get you nowhere.
I think reviews are pure crap as it is. I dont want someone else telling me how much I'll like a game. If a game interests me, I'll tell myself how much I like the game.
And by the way, who cares how long it was in development for? Seriously. So what. The point is its done. You can buy it, you can play it. Let it go. By saying its bad because it ws in development for so long is a weak argument and is just grabbing straws.
/run "end_rant".exe
PS. None of the above statements were directed at any specific people, nor were they based solely on this forum alone.
Just stop, Sean. Every single line of your post pisses me off. And this comment isn't directed at anyone inparticular.
Look what you've done, Professor S. Are you happy?
edit: Well let's just fan this fire more.
The online play is semantics, and requires no arguing whatsoever. Yes, every game would get a different score without online play, but we'll never know that score, will we? So what do we gain in guessing?
Well you missed my point completely. I proposed Halo 2 only received such high scores mostly BECAUSE of online play. Everybody agrees that the story just sucked because it was rushed and included an extremely dumb cliffhanger. Also, the "pop-in" graphics didn't help, nor did the arbiter levels, which a lot of people also complained about. Having all of these faults in mind, was the gameplay really that great without online gameplay?
If Gamespot likes PD0 so much, is the liking of the online gameplay to the same degree? Such is the point of stripping off the online play out of the final score, to find out what the gameplay would score. I agree, you can't strip a game apart like that, but it's a useful tool to determine its quality in bits and pieces.
QED.
Typhoid
11-24-2005, 04:55 AM
Well you missed my point completely.
I told you, nothing was directed specifically at anyone. And I meant it. Like I said in the PM (I'm saying this here, so I dont have to say it 5 more times in seperate PM's or posts :p ) if I wanted to aim anything at anyone, I would have specifically done so, like I normally do.
I didnt say that part because you made a post on it, it was a general distaste and confusion I have gathered from a collective of other forums where people argue on for pages about online play.
Why even post all that crap in the first place. It's circular to think those statements will end anything.
Typhoid
11-24-2005, 05:00 AM
Why even post all that crap in the first place. It's circular to think those statements will end anything.
If you want to delete it, and this, I'll leave that to your discretion whether to gut it, or clear it.
For I do not care.
But it would be wise to delete this post as well. :p
No, I'm going to leave it.
This thread was doomed from the time Bond typed "Perfect Dark Zero" in the thread title.
Jonbo298
11-24-2005, 09:33 AM
Yes bond, and you didnt do anything fanboyish related by posting all our many months old comments that were based off not playing the game :rolleyes:
Xantar
11-24-2005, 11:39 AM
Gamemaster, I spend exactly the same amount of time "targeting you with extensive plans" as I spend watching reruns of Mama's Family and Becker. Stew on that for a while, you paranoid loon.
Damn. And I was just about to ask you where I could sign up.
Huh? Oh you mean I wasn't supposed to tell GameMaster about...? Say again? Secrecy and misdirection? OHHHHH!
Ok, got it. My lips are sealed.
...
So how about them Eagles?
Professor S
11-24-2005, 11:44 AM
Look what you've done, Professor S. Are you happy?
I'm ****ing ECSTATIC! Look at this thread! We've actually got a 4 page thread going about a LAUNCH GAME for a NEXT GEN CONSOLE that just LAUNCHED. The fact that there weren't more and longer threads is an embarassment to this entire website. This is GAMEtavern, not NINTENDOtavern. I'm a little tired of digging up information about the 360 for no one to care about, and I'm not the only one who was.
So Bond decided to stoke the flames a little and I recognized what he was doing and joined right in. It worked GREAT! Now we have members actually looking up info on Xbox360 games and comparing scores. True, they're looking for bad information to support their pre-ordained beliefs, but like an emotionally abandoned child, I'll take bad attention for the 360 over no attention at all. Hell, we even got Xantar into the mix without directly bringing up Nintendo or politics!
Mission accomplished! HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!
/me goes back to his hidden lair and hi-5's Bond, then begins to concoct his next nefarious scheme... targeted at Gamemaster, of course.
Professor S
11-24-2005, 11:48 AM
Damn. And I was just about to ask you where I could sign up.
Huh? Oh you mean I wasn't supposed to tell GameMaster about...? Say again? Secrecy and misdirection? OHHHHH!
Ok, got it. My lips are sealed.
...
So how about them Eagles?
/me pokes his head of of the hidden lair or evel doings and happenings
The Eagles SUCK, but thanks for asking.
And I double posted! What are you going to do about it?! NOTHING, THATS WHAT!!!! MWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
/me leaps back into his hidden lair of dark plotting and shenanigans, hi-5's Bond yet again, and then makes himself a hot-chocolate
I'm going somewhere tomorrow too. I just don't like how you and Strangler lure me into baited threads with the intention of creating a brawl. And just so you know, I received a tip-off a while ago that you two have been targeting me for quite some time with extensive plans that are made in the staff forum. So don't bother denying it.
Yeah every friday we get together and try to figure out the best ways of baiting you. Is it working?
If Rare comes to their senses and makes Banjo Threeie then I will have to get a 360. Probably just a used core system or something. I don't have the time or the money to support three systems again.
This gen:
1) GameCube
2) Xbox
3) PS2
Next gen:
1) PS3
2) Revolution
3) 360
Stonecutter
11-24-2005, 02:26 PM
I actually heard that the editor in chief of Gamespot woke up with his dog's severed head in his bed accompanied by a note stating: "PD0 is amazing... riiiight?
XBOX 1S TEH SUCKS!1!1!!1! nINTENDO 1S TEH RULE$!1!1!1!!!!! DEATH TO GATESGATE!1!1!!!! THE EV1L EMP1RE IS REAL!!1!1!!! SHADOW GOV RUNS OUR L1VE$!!!!!
WAAAAAUUUUGGHH!!!
BTW, Kameo is getting good reviews, too.
As is PGR3, but the Project Gotham games all suck... right?
Thusfar, the only game you can say "aw bite me" to is Madden 06, but that's EA so yeah...
Perfect Stu
11-24-2005, 02:38 PM
LOL @ this entire thread. Dammit, this is what I've missed for such a long time at GameTavern.
Gamemaster, I spend exactly the same amount of time "targeting you with extensive plans" as I spend watching reruns of Mama's Family and Becker. Stew on that for a while, you paranoid loon.
:lol:
nothing against gamemaster or anyone else, I just find that comment well worded and delivered with an uncommon charimastic charm.
*thinks about contributing to the thread*
...uncommon for a flaming Crap-Box 360 fanboy like Strangler, that is. I heard that some child got sick from playing Perfect Dark 0 (due to its utter crappiness), and spread the newborn 'X360' virus to hundreds of thousands of other kids, killing them all.
Ya hear that, people? Buy a 360 and you're killing children...I wont speak for everyone, but I certainly will not be a part of that.
Professor S
11-24-2005, 02:54 PM
As is PGR3, but the Project Gotham games all suck... right?
Thusfar, the only game you can say "aw bite me" to is Madden 06, but that's EA so yeah...
Please read the last two posts I made on this thread.
And Stonecutter, the only thing spreading viruses around here is your girlfriend. OH SNAP!! HAVE AT YOU!!! ;)
Stonecutter
11-24-2005, 03:13 PM
Please read the last two posts I made on this thread.
And Stonecutter, the only thing spreading viruses around here is your girlfriend. OH SNAP!! HAVE AT YOU!!! ;)
*sigh*
I should act like a mod here... but aw **** it.
Have your fun.
PS: Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries
Canyarion
11-24-2005, 04:34 PM
I'm going somewhere tomorrow too. I just don't like how you and Strangler lure me into baited threads with the intention of creating a brawl. And just so you know, I received a tip-off a while ago that you two have been targeting me for quite some time with extensive plans that are made in the staff forum. So don't bother denying it.
Gamemaster, you should really remind them of your position as a moderator.
The point with Perfect Dark Zero is that Nintendo fans want it to suck because they feel bad about losing Rare, while Xbox fans want it to be good just to piss of Nintendo fans. Or something about that, you get the point. This isn't just a neutral game.
Professor S
11-24-2005, 05:52 PM
Gamemaster, you should really remind them of your position as a moderator.
I hope you're kidding. Gamemaster will be a moderator again when Teddy Kennedy is president and invades Jamaica for the rum.
The point with Perfect Dark Zero is that Nintendo fans want it to suck because they feel bad about losing Rare, while Xbox fans want it to be good just to piss of Nintendo fans. Or something about that, you get the point. This isn't just a neutral game.
Man, someone finally got it. +rep if we still had it.
Typhoid
11-24-2005, 06:03 PM
Strangler, I know this is off topic, and no doubt will be flagged as looking for an argument, but I just lost practically all the respect I had for you with this one thread.
You're a moderator. You should act like one.
Professor S
11-24-2005, 06:16 PM
And you're supposed to be a sentient human being with a modicum of intelligence... but I don't go around shooting my mouth off about that, do I?
As for respect, I doubt you had any for me in the first place since I've spent much of my time here tormenting you, and I think this is probably at least the 5th time you've said you've "lost all respect for me". So I don't think I've lost much of anything.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
Typhoid
11-24-2005, 06:21 PM
And you're supposed to be a sentient human being with a modicum of intelligence... but I don't go around shooting my mouth off about that, do I?
As for respect, I doubt you had any for me in the first place since I've spent much of my time here tormenting you , so I don't think I've lost much of anything.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
See, thats the type of thing I mean.
I didnt even take any shots at you, yet you couldn't resist taking one at me, could you?
And you shouldnt go off shooting your mouth off, is my point. You're a moderator.
And I doubt its only me, that you've lost respect from. You came in here looking to stir things up, being the one thing you always preach against. Which isnt very respectful, in my opinion.
If you want to start a war with cheap shots, I'm all in for that. Considering, I'll come out looking better. I'm not 28. I'm not the moderator. And I didnt start it.
Just know how utterly childish you come off looking in this thread, and the unjustified insults dont really help you out much there.
Professor S
11-24-2005, 06:31 PM
See, thats the type of thing I mean.
I didnt even take any shots at you, yet you couldn't resist taking one at me, could you?
And you shouldnt go off shooting your mouth off, is my point. You're a moderator.
And I doubt its only me, that you've lost respect from. You came in here looking to stir things up, being the one thing you always preach against. Which isnt very respectful, in my opinion.
If you want to start a war with cheap shots, I'm all in for that. Considering, I'll come out looking better. I'm not 28. I'm not the moderator. And I didnt start it.
Just know how utterly childish you come off looking in this thread, and the unjustified insults dont really help you out much there.
Typhoid, I've been having a good time on thanksgiving. As have we all. Only you seem to be taking any of this seriously or screaming about me losing "respect". The fact is that every time I show a little color, you can't wait to attack me. You look forward to it because from the beginning I was hard on you. I didn't start this thread. Bond did. Why don't you go after him and the respect he's "lost"? Curious how you decided to pick me out, isn't it? Stop with the childish passive-aggressive act. You should thank me for the tough love, since you've actually improved a thousand times over where you started from.
As for unjustified insults, If you don't think you tried to insult me, you're only kidding yourself.
Keep on desperately trying to attack me and my status. Its extremely transparent.
I'm heading to my girlfriend's now. Have a happy and a healthy.
Typhoid
11-24-2005, 06:39 PM
The fact is that every time I show a little color, you can't wait to attack me. You look forward to it because from the beginning I was hard on you.
No, I do it because you're a moderator and should be able to compose yourself. Do you see school teachers screaming at students during a difference of opinions and insulting his intelligence?
I didn't start this thread. Bond did. Why don't you go after him and the respect he's "lost"? Curious how you decided to pick me out, isn't it?
Is it?
Who Posted?
User Name-----Posts
Professor S-----10
Bond-----4
Stop with the childish passive-aggressive act. You should thank me for the tough love, since you've actually improved a thousand times over where you started from.
Do you know how arrogant it is to say I've improved solely on you? In fact, I would say it has the least to do with you, and moreso with me moderating a large 500 member forum. And passive-agressive? I told you, in all sheer honesty, nothing I've said here was meant to be an insult, if you take it that way, so be it.
As for unjustified insults, If you don't think you tried to insult me, you're only kidding yourself. Keep on desperately trying to attack me and my status. Its extremely transparent.
I havent. I said you should act like a moderator. You called me stupid. Yet I'm still insulting you somehow. I like the way this one is going.
And I'm not attacking your status. I'm reminding you of it. Because at times it seems as if you forget you moderate this, and should hold yourself higher than other people and not drag yourself into childish arguments, and not fan the flames for a disagreement, especially after you're so against arguments at other times.
And now, I shall utilize the classic Strangler line of arguments of past:
I'm done
Jonbo298
11-24-2005, 07:02 PM
Yes..I was surely begging PD0, the game that would've made me buy a 360 if I could because I enjoyed PD, fail horribly. I wasnt wanting it to fail even though I prefer Nintendo. I was hoping this was the game that turned Rare around because their efforts on the Xbox were less then stellar unfortunatley but then again, maybe they just kinda shrugged off the Xbox and went straight for the 360 (or maybe MS forced them to?)
But in the end, ill have PD0 someday
I'm going somewhere tomorrow too. I just don't like how you and Strangler lure me into baited threads with the intention of creating a brawl. And just so you know, I received a tip-off a while ago that you two have been targeting me for quite some time with extensive plans that are made in the staff forum. So don't bother denying it.
Yes, GameMaster, Strangler and I specifically target you and plot all night long on how to destroy you in the staff forum. I would never deny such an obvious thing.
Gamemaster, you should really remind them of your position as a moderator.
GameMaster isn't a moderator.
I'm ****ing ECSTATIC! Look at this thread! We've actually got a 4 page thread going about a LAUNCH GAME for a NEXT GEN CONSOLE that just LAUNCHED. The fact that there weren't more and longer threads is an embarassment to this entire website. This is GAMEtavern, not NINTENDOtavern. I'm a little tired of digging up information about the 360 for no one to care about, and I'm not the only one who was.
This was really my point for this entire thread. Strangler has made at least ten quality threads on Xbox 360 hardware/game information and they have less posts combined than this one single thread that was based on opinionated attacks.
I think it's been fun and funny at the sametime. At least we're actually talking about videogames again.
Teuthida
11-24-2005, 10:18 PM
*reads through thread*
Absolutely lovely. :)
Well, this has been amusing reading through. I like how it goes...first a bunch of people shout out their things, then one person finds somebody and then those two start something up. Then one of them gets a long final post that settles it...and then we start all over again.
All of our longer threads here tend to be like that.
God I love it here. :)
Stonecutter
11-24-2005, 11:48 PM
See, thats the type of thing I mean.
I didnt even take any shots at you, yet you couldn't resist taking one at me, could you?
And you shouldnt go off shooting your mouth off, is my point. You're a moderator.
And I doubt its only me, that you've lost respect from. You came in here looking to stir things up, being the one thing you always preach against. Which isnt very respectful, in my opinion.
If you want to start a war with cheap shots, I'm all in for that. Considering, I'll come out looking better. I'm not 28. I'm not the moderator. And I didnt start it.
Just know how utterly childish you come off looking in this thread, and the unjustified insults dont really help you out much there.
Seriously, dude, chillax.
Just thought that this may be interesting for all you 360X nay sayers.
And anger you yay sayers.
http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/1186.html
Teuthida
11-25-2005, 12:41 AM
Why?
Why not?
Why?
Why not?
...
Professor S
11-25-2005, 12:58 AM
I am voting for this thread to be nominated as "Best Thread Ever". It has everything and is a microcosm of videogame debating across the internet.
Any seconds?
P.S. Typhoid is a poopy-head
/me wonders if Typhoid is actually ever going to get the point of what he's doing on this thread
Typhoid
11-25-2005, 01:00 AM
* Professor S wonders if Typhoid is actually ever going to get the point of what he's doing on this thread
Bush went to war on false pretenses and there were no WMD.
He is finding ways to squak God into the White House, and bypass the separation of church and state.
Professor S
11-25-2005, 01:03 AM
Bush went to war on false pretenses and there were no WMD.
He is finding ways to squak God into the White House, and bypass the separation of church and state.
FINALLY!!! Well its about time you lightened up. :D
Typhoid
11-25-2005, 01:05 AM
FINALLY!!! Well its about time you lightened up. :D
I was the whole time, actually.
Did you notice the lack of insults on you?
I was the whole time, actually.
Did you notice the lack of insults on you?
Well I tried to hint to you the entire time what the heck was up. Now I have no clue where you stand.
Xantar
11-25-2005, 01:52 AM
It's a standard tactic: when you realize you've been made to look like an ass, backpedal and claim that actually, you were just joking around the whole time. No harm intended. Really.
Problem is Typhoid does it so often and so clumsily that it doesn't work.
Typhoid
11-25-2005, 02:01 AM
It's a standard tactic: when you realize you've been made to look like an ass, backpedal and claim that actually, you were just joking around the whole time. No harm intended. Really.
Problem is Typhoid does it so often and so clumsily that it doesn't work.
I never said I was joking, did I?
I meant I wasnt mad.
Why is it you always randomly come into arguments anyways? Arguments that dont even concern you?
You're like the Al Sharpton of Gametavern. (or if you prefer, the Micheal Moore.)
Perfect Stu
11-25-2005, 03:04 AM
Why is it you always randomly come into arguments anyways? Arguments that dont even concern you?
because he is better educated (aint that right, Xanny?) ;) than you or I or anyone else here. his grasp of the human psyche is an uncommon trait in modern society and we are all lucky to witness a genius at work.
Professor S
11-25-2005, 03:14 AM
Better educated? He went to Swarthmore, for Christ's sake. Compared to Ursinus thats like kindergarten.
Canyarion
11-25-2005, 04:43 AM
Damn you Strangler, I've said it before and I'll say it again: you're such an *******. You take every chance to insult anyone. Go ahead, take your shot at me. Are you gonna try and hurt me with my fiancée leaving me? With my religion perhaps? Go ahead, make yourself look like a bigger loser than you already look like.
Xantar
11-25-2005, 12:07 PM
Better educated? He went to Swarthmore, for Christ's sake. Compared to Ursinus thats like kindergarten.
Well, I guess since this thread is supposed to be a microcosm...
Ursinus may be a fine place for beer and football, but Swarthmore has more academic power in its French Department than all of Ursinus put together.
And we whip your asses in volleyball, too.
So nyah. And stuff.
Perfect Stu
11-25-2005, 03:56 PM
Better educated? He went to Swarthmore, for Christ's sake. Compared to Ursinus thats like kindergarten.
lol...you really need not look into my comments that much
then again, I guess you were looking to take a pot shot at Xantar anyways...because I would hope that nobody would take that post of mine very seriously
on the other hand...i have always fully endorsed pot shots, jabs, zingers, burns, or any similar concept :D
Professor S
11-25-2005, 03:59 PM
Damn you Strangler, I've said it before and I'll say it again: you're such an *******. You take every chance to insult anyone. Go ahead, take your shot at me. Are you gonna try and hurt me with my fiancée leaving me? With my religion perhaps? Go ahead, make yourself look like a bigger loser than you already look like.
Ok, you are a poopyhead also.
Xantar, I don't think Canyarion gets our friendly back and forth involving our school rivalry. Either that or he's just joining in on the fun. :D
And if its French for Retarded Monkey Virgins, then I agree with your assessment.
Swarthmore, Swarthmore
We think they're all wussies
The get all the education
While we get all the...
Dum de dum de dum, de dumdumdedum
Ok, you are a poopyhead also.
Xantar, I don't think Canyarion gets our friendly back and forth involving our school rivalry. Either that or he's just joining in on the fun. :D
And if its French for Retarded Monkey Virgins, then I agree with your assessment.
Swarthmore, Swarthmore
We think they're all wussies
The get all the education
While we get all the...
Dum de dum de dum, de dumdumdedum
Female orifices?
Got that one on the first try...GO ME!
PS Nintendo....is.....smelly!
The Germanator
11-25-2005, 06:31 PM
I'm going to have to side with Xantar on the Ursinus/Swarthmore debate...
Ursinus gave a decent student like me a $13,000/year scholarship while I didn't apply to Swarthmore. I did visit, and I doubt that I would have even gotten into Swarthmore, but that's just my guess...
How's Wilmington, Xanny? It is my birthplace. :)
GameMaster
11-25-2005, 11:17 PM
I'm afraid that after one joyous holiday and 24 hours, I'm still going to require that Strangler and Bond issue public apologies for their behavior in this thread.
Perfect Stu
11-26-2005, 12:11 AM
I'm afraid that after one joyous holiday and 24 hours, I'm still going to require that Strangler and Bond issue public apologies for their behavior in this thread.
...
oh no, son. god no.
require?
REALLY?
Professor S
11-26-2005, 01:11 AM
I'm afraid that after one joyous holiday and 24 hours, I'm still going to require that Strangler and Bond issue public apologies for their behavior in this thread.
And I'm going to have to require that you stop behaving like an insane f***tard. Once that request is made, I will acquiesce to yours.
dum de dum de dum de dumdumdedum...
And for the record, I realize that Swarthmore is a more challenging school than Ursinus (Ursinus is still a damn fine institution and no walk in the park, though). Both our schools are in the same conference and area of the country, though, so Xanny and I have had a friendly rivalry for a long time. I assure everyone its all in good fun.
Jonbo298
11-26-2005, 01:29 AM
I demand all of you buy me LOLLIPOPS right now!
Teuthida
11-26-2005, 01:30 AM
If Mr. S wasn't Mr. S he would have locked this thread pages ago...but being that he's the ass this time it's A'OK. Funny how things work.
Side note for those "jokingly" insulting other forum members: Work on your comedy.
GameMaster
11-26-2005, 02:33 AM
And I'm going to have to require that you stop behaving like an insane f***tard. Once that request is made, I will acquiesce to yours.
As a GameTavern Elder, I declare your behavior as an officer of peace and representative of rules and regulation: unacceptable. I won't stand for my forums to be guided by such unstable and such angry souls. Bond and yourself were assigned to protect and preserve the sacredness of this closley-knit community and the fabric of friendship and brotherhood upon which it rests. Instead, you two have chosen to pollute our pristine waters with manipulation, hatred, and deceit. You talk amongst yourselves, looking for ways to brew threads that will turn these kind folks against each other. Our Kingdom slowly crumbles under your gnarled grip. You both blindly wear your collars with great pride unaware that it is the hands of seniority which hold the leashes and will forever rest above your paltry authority. And it is those hands which will continue to fight and resist your impure ways. We will not rest until righteousness, honor, and balance is restored.
Professor S
11-26-2005, 02:37 AM
Funny how things work.
Its hilarious how things work. Especially on this thread. Anyway, I think the point has been made in this thread and I'll now retire from it. I hope no one's feelings were bruised too badly, as it was all in fun, and it got these forums rolling again. At least for a while.
Except for the comments about Gamemaster being nutty. I really think he's lost his friggin' marbles.
EDIT:
As a GameTavern Elder, I declare your behavior as an officer of peace and representative of rules and regulation: unacceptable. I won't stand for my forums to be guided by such unstable and such angry souls. Bond and yourself were assigned to protect and preserve the sacredness of this closley-knit community and the fabric of friendship and brotherhood upon which it rests. Instead, you two have chosen to pollute our pristine waters with manipulation, hatred, and deceit. You talk amongst yourselves, looking for ways to brew threads that will turn these kind folks against each other. Our Kingdom slowly crumbles under your gnarled grip. You both blindly wear your collars with great pride unaware that it is the hands of seniority which hold the leashes and will forever rest above your paltry authority. And it is those hands which will continue to fight and resist your impure ways. We will not rest until righteousness, honor, and balance is restored.
Need I say more? He says more than I ever could about his rapidly degrading grip on reality.
MuGen
11-26-2005, 04:56 AM
I'm kind of confused to find so many people using rich vocabulary and psychological termonology when insulting/joking/arguing with people. I've noticed a lot in this thread, and this thread alone. It is either the need to look smart or the desire to look superior... In this case, I cannot decide nor can I tell.
I feel like I'm at a poetry reading sometimes...
Please... just use normal words.... not that I cannot understand the bigger ones, but simpler ones do the same job in conveying their meaning. I guess this is just a individualized arguement and has nothing to do with previous comments, LOL.
also I have one thing to say..
The Game Master................. has returned.
Canyarion
11-26-2005, 06:54 AM
I declare the winner of this thread: GameMaster. :bowdown:
As a GameTavern Elder, I declare your behavior as an officer of peace and representative of rules and regulation: unacceptable. I won't stand for my forums to be guided by such unstable and such angry souls. Bond and yourself were assigned to protect and preserve the sacredness of this closley-knit community and the fabric of friendship and brotherhood upon which it rests. Instead, you two have chosen to pollute our pristine waters with manipulation, hatred, and deceit. You talk amongst yourselves, looking for ways to brew threads that will turn these kind folks against each other. Our Kingdom slowly crumbles under your gnarled grip. You both blindly wear your collars with great pride unaware that it is the hands of seniority which hold the leashes and will forever rest above your paltry authority. And it is those hands which will continue to fight and resist your impure ways. We will not rest until righteousness, honor, and balance is restored.
So to translate all of that: GameMaster is bitter he is no longer a Moderator.
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