PSP: Emulation

[MuGen]

Let us discuss the wonders of this new hack, well maybe not new, but wonderful hack.

I've recently just begun emulation on my PSP and so far I have SNES, Genesis, and MAME. However the PSPMAME only supports a few games so far.

But right now, I am playing Chrono Trigger and re-experiencing the classic....portably... mwahaha

How about everyone else?

[Null]

what i have running on my psp...
GBC emu
NES emu
SNES emu
Genesis emu
MAME emu

Games im playin are the sonic games for Genesis, and punchout on NES, and im playin the 2 zelda games Oracle of Seasons/Ages that i never got to play on my GBC (i own them, i just never got around to playin em, small screen, not lit hard to see)

i own a few GBA games that i'd like to play on the PSP screen, so i cant wait till they get the GBA emu working good.

[MuGen]

Although the emu's don't necessarily fill up the whole PSP screen I went into the SNES9X menu and changed Screen Size to "FIT" and it fills up the whole screen vertically and keeps the aspect ratio........ which is good in sense, considering all old games don't support widescreen.

[Null]

yea i use all my emulators on full size fit. im fine with having black on the left and right of the game screen.

cept the genesis one doesnt have that option yet.

[DarkMaster]

Sounds pretty wicked. Does it support N64 or PSX emus? Or do those even exist?

[MuGen]

No support for the N64 and PSX emulators yet. They've got just about everything else though....... It wouldn't surprise me if the N64 emu comes out soon, considering it's also catridge based and easy to compile.

GoldenEye here I come!!!

[Null]

i doubt its powerful enough to handle anything more then SNES/GBA

sorry. while a N64 emu might be made for it, i dont think it will ever run well.

[MuGen]

MY PSP ROX0RS NOW!

http://www.rasengan.net/PSPSCREEN.jpg

http://www.rasengan.net/PSPSCREEN2.jpg

http://www.rasengan.net/PSPCHRONO.jpg

[Null]

theres a lot of good backgrounds now :)

little too much white on that one tho, makes it more difficult to read. however i could take care of that in photoshop if i wanted to use that background. infact, i might be able to edit thoes kinda good. add a couple things. HMMM

is that only 1 background, or is it different for every month?

[MuGen]

I only chose one background... I didn't feel like making 12...

[Null]

lol. what i did when i made one, was just make 1, then make 11 different color layers in photoshop. then save each layer.

[MuGen]

lol thats an idea.

[Dyne]

I figured I would finally try Terranigma and Final Fantasy 6 because I've never played them, but FF6 is a little bit too choppy. So I'm playing through Terranigma mostly.

It's a great game so far. Why did they never bring it over to North America? Idiots.

I'm also playing Claymates (I used to play it with my friend ALL the time and his copy just disappeared one day) and a lot of random other games.

[MuGen]

Streets of Rage 2.... the best one

[DeathsHand]

Genesis Emulator? :O Where?

Personally I am quite enjoying it... And it got so much better once the card swapping was made unnecesary...

I dunno if it's the ROMs or the emulator, but a lot of the SNES games I try to play tend to freeze... And I downloaded them from a site that had a ton of NES and GB roms that worked perfectly fine...

Now if I may repeat myself... Genesis Emulator? :o

Edit: A little searching goes a long way. I have discovered the Genesis Emulator... Along with newer versions of a couple of the other emulators... Huzzah!

[MuGen]

All my SNES games work wonderfully now under
Transparency: Off
Frameskip: 3
Sound: 11MHz
Sound Speed: 1.4
Graphics Speed: 1.4
PSP Clock: 333Mhz

Genesis works great under
333MHz
Cell
Autoram: n

[Null]

SNES ones depend on the game, i also notice for Zelda on SNES, if you have transparency off, and you go outside, you can see anything cuz you cant see through the rain. lol., but all these emulators are very very early stages, they will only improve. :)

[Perfect Stu]

i cant afford a PSP quite yet but I dont know if I can resist Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee and the whole emulation thing...

*stares at wallet*

no...I cant...not yet

[Dyne]

SNES ones depend on the game, i also notice for Zelda on SNES, if you have transparency off, and you go outside, you can see anything cuz you cant see through the rain. lol., but all these emulators are very very early stages, they will only improve. :)

Kirby Superstar is a cluster**** of slow. There's just no helping that game right now.

It's sad, I really want to play it on the go, badly.

And for the record, I haven't touched lumines or Hot Shots Golf once since this emulation. Hahah.

[MuGen]

I haven't touched my games or movies either... the emulation is awesome, cuz you can have so many games on there....

[Jonbo298]

I was going to hold off getting a PSP for a bit until I could scrounge up the cash but I'm about to go out the door and get one right now if only for the emulation :D

[MuGen]

I like the idea of having these games there when you need them. Say I forget my UMD's I can call upon the powers of the older generations and play those games.

I mean...I may be speaking for myself only when I say, I STILL have fun playing Revenge of the Shinobi for Genesis..... or how about Streets of Rage?

Reminds me.. I haven't tried out Star Ocean yet.

[Null]

thing is, Some new games for PSP are going to have automatic firmware updates in them.


so you may buy a PSP game, and your emulators will no longer work. be careful what you buy :p

[Jonbo298]

Then I'll hold off getting games until flames come abound about peoples Emulators getting disabled and know which ones to avoid ;) :p

Kinda like the whole Star Wars Trilogy DVD with the demo on Xbox that auto-updated the dashboard and wiped out some people's hacks and they got utterly pissed about it ;)

[Dyne]

thing is, Some new games for PSP are going to have automatic firmware updates in them.


so you may buy a PSP game, and your emulators will no longer work. be careful what you buy :p

The good thing is, there isn't even a game I want to buy in the next year. Take that, Sony!

Yeah, PSP is completely worth the money now. I'm glad I bought it. I take it with me everywhere.

[MuGen]

Dev teams all over will constantly hack and hack... eventually they will find a way around these endeavors and even design emulators that can work on ANY firmware PSP.

[Null]

more likely then finding away around every version, are things like, a program/hack that would tell the new games that your psp is the highest version, therefor the new games wouldnt update anything, or make like a version switching program for the psp.

something well be done to get around it no doubt.

[MuGen]

of course....

[Null]

- For anyone interested in getting rid of the Currupt Data icons -


rename the normal folder with ___1 at the end, getting it up to EXACTLY 33 characters long.
Then rename the % folder with a ~1% at the end.

EXAMPLE

SNES emu, folders names are SNES9x and SNES9x%

rename SNES9x to, SNES9x__________________________1
-(26 underscores getting the total characters in the name up to EXACTLY 33)
rename SNES9x% to, SNES9x~1%

example 2
PSPersonalize
rename PSPersonalize to PSPers__________________________1
rename PSPersonize% to PSPers~1%

doesnt seem to like really long ones like PSPersonalize, so make them shorter and fill in with extra underscores to get it to 33 chars.




Now its been said by some that fewer then 6 characters in the name before you add the underscores sometimes doesnt work. so for me i just made sure they were all at least 6 chars, like i had one folder named RIN, i made it RINgbc or RINemu then added the ___...1 to get it to 33 characters total. But maybe that was for OVER 6, perhaps under 6 works fine.




[EDIT] oh yes, and the EMU might not know where your roms are when you turn it on after doing this, so you'll just have to show it the new folder and it should be fine from then on.



[EDIT2] i changed it above for the PSPersonalize one, it doesnt seem to like when the name part of the folder name is longer then 6 or so, so instead of PSPersonalize___(etc)1, i made it PSPers__________________________1

[Vampyr]

Can someone point me towards a tutorial on how to get the emulators onto the PSP, using only one memory card? I'm excited to try this out, but I have no idea how.

If the tutorial is on ps2info.com don't bother giving it to me, because that site blocked my email for some reason and I can't sign up to read anything there. I'm not sure why they blocked me, I've never been to it before I tried to sign up.

[Dyne]

Yeah, Null, point me to the KXploit too? I've been too busy to find it.

I've swaploitted two more times since it came out, but I wouldn't mind having the one-memorycard solution.

[Null]

might be the domain is blocked from the email you used. so everyone with that email service is blocked. not just you.


Did you try just downloading the one from thier main site? didnt think you needed to sign up to get thoes.

[DarrenMcLeod]

Can't say this doesn't make me extremely jealous... this is awesome. Kudos to all those hardworking nerds with no lives.

I also find it kind of funny that people that boasted about the PSP being better for its power and great looking games are now playing NES games on it instead of the PSP games... haha.

[Null]

Can't say this doesn't make me extremely jealous... this is awesome. Kudos to all those hardworking nerds with no lives.

I also find it kind of funny that people that boasted about the PSP being better for its power and great looking games are now playing NES games on it instead of the PSP games... haha.


the extra power is needed to do this tho, i believe PSP has the power to do GBA/SNES games at full speed (eventually). if it was slower it could prolly still do NES, but not SNES/genesis etc.

[MuGen]

I'm not looking at this as a replacement for my PSP, because I still occassionally pick up my Wipeout or Dark Stalkers. But I look at these roms as backup for when I forget my UMD's or don't feel like playing.

Besides, everyone needs something in their lives to remind them of their roots. For me it's playing Streets of Rage on the Genesis, and playing RPG's on the SNES.

[Null]

hmmmmmmm, not all game folders like thier name being changed with that method i posted earlier. i guess some need to stick with the original names, untill the emu maker makes it so it can be any name.

[DeathsHand]

I also find it kind of funny that people that boasted about the PSP being better for its power and great looking games are now playing NES games on it instead of the PSP games... haha.

Actually the possibility of Emulators (specifically those of the NES and SNES kind) running on PSP is one of the reasons I bought one in the first place... :>

I mean the games do look better, and if you ask me there were more games that appealed to me on PSP than the DS... But the possibility of emulators was also a big plus...

And I am happy to see that these nice nerds with no lives have come through on that (^-^

[Vampyr]

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2005/20050624l.jpg

[Null]

:P

and on a side note, I find the program PBPMaker to be better then KXploit.

PBPmaker, will do the same thing as KXplit, however it will hide the currupt file for you when it makes the files. only problem is its all in funky leters so the program cant be read, (altho thats not any different from kxploit unless your spanish), Not only does it do that tho, it also keeps the original emulators icons, so instead of seeing that PSP DEV icon for every emulator in your list, they all have thier own icons. (just make the name of the emulator 6 digits long when you type it in, and i've found it works very well then.)

I find it useful, be nice tho if someone made one in english. lol

[Vampyr]

:P

and on a side note, I find the program PBPMaker to be better then KXploit.

PBPmaker, will do the same thing as KXplit, however it will hide the currupt file for you when it makes the files. only problem is its all in funky leters so the program cant be read, (altho thats not any different from kxploit unless your spanish), Not only does it do that tho, it also keeps the original emulators icons, so instead of seeing that PSP DEV icon for every emulator in your list, they all have thier own icons. (just make the name of the emulator 6 digits long when you type it in, and i've found it works very well then.)

I find it useful, be nice tho if someone made one in english. lol

You know, the KXploit has an option that makes it in english.

[Vampyr]

Alright, this is really pissing me off.

I picked up a USB cable today, and I did not forsee the string of complicated and frustrating events that would follow.

So, I come home and hook up the PSP to my computer, and then I spend two hours trying to get it installed on my computer. This little icon appeared in my system tray and was like "new hardware detected"...and then it wouldn't go away. Apparantly it was installing the hardware, so I let it go. I went and played MGS3 and came back, and it was still there.

So I decided to shut my computer down and try again. So it was shutting down, and it got to the part where it says "saving your settings", and then it stayed there. I left it like that for about 20 minutes, then I just pushed the button and turned it off. That has happened a few more times sense then.

But anyway, I eventually restarted and tried again. It took a while, but it finally came up and said "new hardware is installed and ready to use".

So I went to the USB part on the PSP, and then opened up KXploit and generated the files for an SNES emulator. I thought everything was good....but then I tried to put a ROM on there. I put the ROM in the correct folder, and then went to the memory stick part of the PSP. There was nothing there.

I thought maybe I didn't wait long enough, so I went back to the USB thing on my PSP (btw, is the only thing it's supposed show is the text "USB"?) and I tried again and waited about ten minutes before leaving the USB thing on my PSP and going to the memory stick. Still nothing there.

And I would like to take this time to mention that every time I hook my PSP to the computer and turn on the PSP, for some ****ing reason, my internet stops working and I every site I try to go to "times out".

I have no idea what the problem is.

[Null]

setup has the option right away, unless they changed that, then the basic program defaulted in spanish, so you'd have to go through it like that before changing it to english.

and that doesnt hide the fact that PBP does a better job. i never liked how Kxploit turned everything you did into its own icons on the psp, so every emulator would have that same boring psp dev icon. i like to see the original icons made by the ppl who made the emulator.










And it sounds like something is screwed up with the USB settings, or USB drivers on the computer. really all that should happen is you plug the wire in, computer goes ding dong! wait about 10 to 20 seconds and it will say everything is ready to use.

then when you goto 'my computer' there should be a f drive or a e drive or somethign, and when you go into it it would list a folder just like any drive would. and you drag and drop files like normal.

you could try going to control panel/admin tools/computer managment/device manager and make sure in the USB section theres no question marks or x's or anything.



Or, try plugging it into a Different USB slot, and letting it set it up there real quick.

[Vampyr]

Ok, thanks Null. I plugged it into another USB slot, and it worked. I guess that one must have been messed up.

But the SNES roms are really slow...

So how do you change the system settings like you and Kyuzo were talking about? I want to up my processor speed...I know that will suck away my battery life, but i don't care, I have an outlet to jack into. :D

[Dyne]

Ok, thanks Null. I plugged it into another USB slot, and it worked. I guess that one must have been messed up.

But the SNES roms are really slow...

So how do you change the system settings like you and Kyuzo were talking about? I want to up my processor speed...I know that will suck away my battery life, but i don't care, I have an outlet to jack into. :D

I remember mentioning it before, but press left on the analog stick. Then use the settings posted earlier.

[Vampyr]

I remember mentioning it before, but press left on the analog stick. Then use the settings posted earlier.

Thanks, I've got it now. :)

[Vampyr]

Ok, new problem. Last night I turned off my PSP while playing a ROM, and today when I turned it on, it's stuck on that screen.

When I click the "Home" button, a screen pops up, but none of the buttons will let me select "yes" to get back to my desktop. And I can't move or do anything in the game, either. I'm stuck there. -_-

Edit: Nevermind, I fixed it. I had to remove the battery.

Note for every one else: Don't just turn your PSP off while playing a ROM.

[Null]

i turn it off all the time. you just press home and left to use and press X.


However, if it is stuck you dont have to remove the battery, just completely turn off the PSP.

pressing that power button up and letting go sends it into Standby, holding up for 10 seconds or so turns it off completely.

[Vampyr]

Oh well, I didn't know that. I was scared for a few minutes becaues I couldn't get back to the home screen.

But it works fine now, and I've been playing a japanese SNES fire emblem game that's been translated into english...it's awesome.

[Dyne]

I use sleep mode all the time. I usually go back to the ROM selection screen.

Other people's cards have corrupted, but mine hasn't yet. And I've done it plenty of times.

[Vampyr]

So, what games have you guys been playing lately?

I've been playing a lot of games that were only released in Japan but have been hacked and translated into English.

Right now this is what I'm playing:
1. Harvest Moon 2 (GBC)
2. Secret of Mana (SNES)
3. Front Mission (SNES)
4. Fire Emblem: Seisen No Keifu

[MuGen]

So far I'm trying to find out how to get Genesis to save.... I can Save States in SNES9x but in Genesis I dunno how to do it.

I've been playing Sonic 3 and been wanting to continue from where I left off.....
Also Streets of Rage 3.

I'm fine w/ Chrono Trigger, it has a Save State...

[Dyne]

So, what games have you guys been playing lately?

I've been playing a lot of games that were only released in Japan but have been hacked and translated into English.

Right now this is what I'm playing:
1. Harvest Moon 2 (GBC)
2. Secret of Mana (SNES)
3. Front Mission (SNES)
4. Fire Emblem: Seisen No Keifu

1. Terranigma (SNES)
2. FF6 (SNES)
3. Claymates (SNES) <3
4. NBA Live '97 (SNES)
5. Outrun (MAME)

[Null]

Double Dribble! lol. addictive NES game. even tho the computer cheats on higher levels.

all the mario's
all the Zelda's

Sonic 2 and 3

punchout and super punch out




and i dont think genesis emu can save yet. keep checking for newer versions of it tho, its coming, just dunno when.

[Jonbo298]

Good god, Double Dribble. I think my grandma still has that NES game somewhere. That game was interesting

[Null]

lol

i had the game on NES. we has some good tournaments with it back then.

right now. i dunno what it is about it. its just quite addicting. started off just to see it again, then i couldnt put it down and had to finish the game.

[Vampyr]

I've tried playing LttP and the SNES Mario games, but from my experiances the SNES emu really only runs well enough for RPG and other slow paced games, so thats what I'm using it for until better versions come out...

Then it's time to platform.

[Null]

for snes i've had better luck with all the games running better with the newest version of uo_snes9x instead of just snes9x. i got some platformers running pretty well with that at the moment.

[Dyne]

I might've mentioned it before, but Claymates, as a platformer, works without any frameskipping or anything. It's hot. And I love Claymates. <3.

[Vampyr]

It appears as though some emulators are starting to be able to read games compressed in .zip format. That's pretty awesome, especially for us people on a 32 MB card.

But my question is, will there be a loss in quality of audio or video when playing a compressed game?

[MuGen]

ZIP'ing a filing or playing through a zip doesn't compress the quality. ZIP batches the files into an archive making one file, decreasing the file size a bunch. If the files and folders are expanded the overall file size increases too.

When a file is zipped up however, it doesn't lose any quality whatsoever. two 6 meg MP3s can be zipped up to 8 megs, and unzipped as 12megs and have it's same quality.

it's just the process of archiving all files together so the system recognizes it as only one item.

[Vampyr]

Alright, that's cool.

I have another question:

How do you update an emulator that's on your PSP?

[DeathsHand]

Alright, that's cool.

I have another question:

How do you update an emulator that's on your PSP?

Delete the old EBOOT.pbp file and run kxploit to install the new one... *shrug*

You could probably just install the new one over the old one, but I havn't tried yet I've always deleted the old one first...

[Null]

as long as the folders are the same name, just put it on the memory stick as normal and it should copy over the old.

BTW, the new version of PBPmaker has an english exe so you can understand it all now. and it has an option to change the icon for when its on the PSP, i made a few of my own :) plus it has a sort option, you can arange the order the icons will appear on the psp.
i deleted kxploit off my computer now. pbpmaker is so much nicer.

[Vampyr]

I tried doing what you said before I asked Null, about just placing the eboot right into the folder...but that didn't work, so I'm going to run kxploit and see if that fixes it.

Thanks guys.

[Null]

hmm. its always worked for me. i usually do that or delete the folder on the psp first.

[DeathsHand]

as long as the folders are the same name, just put it on the memory stick as normal and it should copy over the old.

BTW, the new version of PBPmaker has an english exe so you can understand it all now. and it has an option to change the icon for when its on the PSP, i made a few of my own :) plus it has a sort option, you can arange the order the icons will appear on the psp.
i deleted kxploit off my computer now. pbpmaker is so much nicer.

KXploit can be in English... There's some kind of text file that installs along with it... Inside it says "Language=0" or something... I changed it to 1 and wham bam, English...