Rotten Watch: Batman Begins

[Ginkasa]

I can't believe no one else has done this one yet...

Rotten Tomatoes: Batman Begins (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_begins/)

Right now it is Fresh at 73% with an average rating of 6.6/10.


/me shrugs and walks away

[BreakABone]

I can't believe no one else has done this one yet...

Rotten Tomatoes: Batman Begins (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_begins/)

Right now it is Fresh at 73% with an average rating of 6.6/10.


* Link1130 shrugs and walks away

I was going to do it now.. you know so it is exactly a week before the movie comes out :baby:

Anyhow since you already did it.. Might as well add some stuff..

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-- Sandy Collora, BUZZSCOPE (http://www.buzzscope.com/features.php?id=985)

FYI: Sandy Collora was the guy who directed that Batman short film "Dead End", where a spandex-clad Batman fought both Aliens and Predators while hunting the Joker.


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-- "The Pope", AICN (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20367)

TV SPOTS

HERE (http://media.themoviebox.net/player/BatmanBegins/tvspots/?play=11) and HERE (http://extratv.warnerbros.com/v2/news/0605/01/5/video.html)

SOUNDTRACK LISTING

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5. Artibeus
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OFFICIAL WB PROMO - TEN MINUTES OF FOOTAGE

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This is Bruce Wayne. This is Batman.

I think Nolan did it. He nailed the Bat-movie all the Bat-fans wanted to see. I'm just gonna break this down bit by bit. I won't cover everything, you'll have to see the movie for all of it. And remember, this is just my opinion. If you don't like it, you're free to bugger off


The Batman:
Dark, scary, menacing, full of precarious posing on building ledges. . . this is the Batman I always wanted on film. Bale's mentioned in several interviews that he wanted a more animalistic Batman. We got it. This batman growls when he speaks, and he is never just standing around like previous Batmen. He's always looming, brooding, or prowling. And they set the tone right with his first appearance. Wait until you see it. It's the stuff of good horror films! One of the things I liked most about the Batman's portrayal was that when he was in action, you were almost removed to a third person POV over the victim's shoulder. What I mean is that we didn't follow Batman into the fight. We followed his prey. And from this view, you can see why these guys aren't prone to laughing at the guy in the cape. They're too busy wetting themselves. That was my big "FINALLY!" We got a Batman that's actually scary.

Bruce Wayne:
Bale's brief yet amusing stints as the pompous, arrogant, billionaire playboy that is Bruce Wayne were fantastic. For the first time on film we get to see the "Bruce Mask" in all it's glory. And it was friggin hilarious!

Jim Gordon:
I loved Gary Oldman in this film. I want more of him. Lots more. Gordon in this film is a compassionate cop who cares about his job and justice, but is smart enough to stay out of trouble. Though his part was briefer than I'd have preferred, it was great to finally get a Gordon who's active in the plot, and not just bellowing orders through a megaphone.


Ducard:
Liam Neeson must love playing mentors. And quite frankly, I love it when he does. This role felt a lot like his Jedi role, but quite frankly, none of what he was preaching to Bruce didn't make sense for this story, so it all worked really well, I thought.

Rachel Dawes:
I was scared for this part. I wasn't sure what they were going to do with her, really. And while I wasn't entirely satisfied with her character arc, it definitely feels like they're not done with her. I'm hoping they avoid the previous franchise's route and get a new girl each time. Honestly, I want to see her come back and continue to grow within this world. Her life-long relationship with Bruce is really interesting to me, and I really hope that it remains, instead of being brushed off suddenly to satisfy a sequel. I don't want "new film, new girl" any more.

Jonathan Crane:
The scarecrow is a hard villain to make practical. But they did it REALLY well, imo. I saw someone describe somewhere the effect being like the scene in Fight Club where the film is jumping out of the cage. I couldn't describe it better myself. The action figures that were released don't do this character justice. He's a very practical, and very creepy villain. Being a fan of the scarecrow, I'd obviously love to see the full on costume, but that's for a different movie. The scarecrow in this film fit the tone perfectly. And Murphy's eyes are creepy.

Ra's al Ghul:
Ken Watanabe has presense coming out of his EARS! That's all I'm saying on that. Ra's is another villain who I couldn't figure out how to make practical. That's been one of my biggest interests since he was announced. They said it was to be grounded in reality, but they were using an immortal villain. But they made it work. They left Ra's with enough ambiguity to leave him very mysterious, but answered enough questions about the character to make him really interesting. I'm secretly harboring hope that we'll see him again.


The Toys:
What is batman without his toys? Well, I always prefer my batman toy-light, but I'm in a minority there. I like him to do things with his own bare hands, and I think the film strikes a balance. He makes good use of all of his toys, and they're all very practical. There's no bat-mastercard to be seen in this film. By far my favorite, though, was the Tumbler. I've never been part of the 2Bat2Furious crowd that thinks Batman should drive a customized Viper or something equally showy. Batman needs a tank, in my opinion, and he's got one now. This thing kicks ASS. I want to buy one. Seriously, I'm saving my money. I want one. The magnetic grapple gun was great, especially considering that you rarely see him actually using it, just the results he could get when he did, if that makes sense.

The Suit:
I like the comic suit. I do. But it would NEVER have worked in this film. Never. While I wasn't sure about running back into a suit so familiar to the previous franchise, I thought it looked bloody fantastic on screen. It was definitely Batman I was seeing, and at the end of the day that's all that mattered. The whole suit is explained for practicality's sake, and it all makes enough sense to suspend your disbelief. There are those concerned about mobility, and I never noticed any problems, really. And if there WERE some, they didn't bother me at all, aparently. I mean, with all the shots(like the ones in the trailers) of him perched on corners of buildings and stuff, he looked anything but stiff.

Overall:
I thought the film had a couple rocky points but definitely no deal-breakers for me. I think if you're a fanboy you're gonna enjoy this film immensely. Every scene is wading around waist deep in Bat-lore. The movie isn't just Year One, or Long Halloween, or any other single graphic novel. It's like Nolan and Goyer took the best parts of many stories, and crafted this world in which they were all more closely connected to one another. I thought the relationships between the villains and heroes of Gotham flowed really smoothly. There were two relationships that I really appreciated though.

1) Bruce and Thomas Wayne: The relationship between Bruce and his father is played up in this one WAY more than ever before, and I loved it. It gave Bruce a person to miss, not simply a generic "dead parent." It wasn't until seeing this film that I really realized how shallow and hollow Bruce's relationship to his dead parents seemed in the past films. I mean, their death is WHY he's doing this, and in this film you really get that. Bruce struggles at times with what Thomas might think of him. I love that about Bruce in the comics, and I'm glad that someone put it on screen. There is a real human, loving, admiring relationship there that makes Bruce's pain even more acute.

2) Bruce and Fear Itself: Bruce isn't just a man in a bat suit in this film. He's a master of fear. He almost makes previous Batmen look un-scary. He's intimidating as all hell (especially in one great rainy scene!), and he's consciously aware of his own fears, and how fear can be used against the fearful. Fear is a running theme in this film, and with Batman and Scarecrow, it couldn't be more appropriate. In fact, the guilt Bruce feels over his parents has even been ever so slightly altered from the generally accepted comic explanation. . . just enough to make fear mean all the more to Bruce.

The final thing I'll talk about, and a thing that struck me as the film was wrapping up, was that this film couldn't have been more aptly named. I have been describing it to people as a REALLY elaborate prologue. While it holds it's own, it also acts as a MASSIVE setup for what could potentially become the Bat Franchise of my dreams. I mean, there are SO many events that happen in this film that leave doorways for more of the bat-universe characters to step into. I can't help but feel that as happy as I was with the familiarity I felt with the world of this film, it will only get more-so as the ranchise goes along. And I'm certain it will.

While the film isn't necessarily for everyone, it's by far the best Batman film yet. I can't see this film having any trouble warranting a sequel.

Okay, well, I know I didn't cover everything. Mostly cause I'm friggin exhausted. If there's anything else you want to know, just ask away. I'm not terribly inclined to hand out spoilerish info because there were some spoilers I'd read/heard relatively accidentally that I wish I hadn't. I encourage anyone who can to go in fresh. Anyway, that's that for now. I may write up more, particularly spoilerish info, after the film's actual release.
The guy from Bluetights.com

http://www.grouchoreviews.com/index.php?module=Movie_Reviews&func=display&id=2239
http://www.emanuellevy.com/article.php?articleID=253

http://www.batmans.de/news/article/Batman-Begins/1117835604.html

Listen to excerpt from the soundtrack here... number 10 has the official Batman theme in it

http://www.soundtrack.net/features/article/?id=150

A review on the soundtrack and if you are lucky tracks from the score.

I think thats all I got for now...

Some of the reviews can't be found on RT which is why posted...

Might as well...

Batman Begins is up to 75% Fresh with avg of 6.9

The original Batman movie has a 79% Fresh Rating with an Avg 6.8

Batman Returns has a 79% Fresh Rating with an Avg of 6.6

Batman Forever has a 50% Rotten Rating with Avg of 5.5

Batman and Robin has a 11% Rotten Rating With avg of 3.6

[BreakABone]

Well, its kind of sad no one else is participating in this thread.. is no one else looking forward to the movie or do they fear spoilers?

Anyhow, I wanted to point out that the movie is now at 83% fresh with an average rating of 7.4

[Jonbo298]

meh, I have no interest in the movie

[Null]

i still hate the batmobile, i think thats just stupid. but i'll go see the movie.

[Ginkasa]

I personally find it refreshing that the Batmobile actually looks useful. I always thought that the whole tricked out sports car thing going with the other Batmobiles (especially the ones in Batman Forever and & Robin) just didn't really fit... Way to flashy and not at all scary or intimidating.


/me shrugs and walks away

[BreakABone]

I personally find it refreshing that the Batmobile actually looks useful. I always thought that the whole tricked out sports car thing going with the other Batmobiles (especially the ones in Batman Forever and & Robin) just didn't really fit... Way to flashy and not at all scary or intimidating.


* Link1130 shrugs and walks away

Yeah I have to agree with you on that one.. of the 4 Batmobiles.. I would probably crap myself if I saw this one barrelling down the street at me.

Also I try to explain to people that this is an origin movie, the first thing you do when you want to fight crime is not get a tricked out speedster. You get something you have access to and you get something with power. If you see this thing in action, you know its the most badass batmobile so far.

[Null]

I personally find it refreshing that the Batmobile actually looks useful. I always thought that the whole tricked out sports car thing going with the other Batmobiles (especially the ones in Batman Forever and & Robin) just didn't really fit... Way to flashy and not at all scary or intimidating.


* Link1130 shrugs and walks away


batman 3 and 4 dont even count as batman movies.



and thats exactly the problem, the new batmobile looks more hightech and newer then the real batmobiles and this is supposed to be when he's just starting off. he shouldnt even have a batmobile yet.

it looks like batman is driving around in a monster truck.

[Ginkasa]

batman 3 and 4 dont even count as batman movies.



and thats exactly the problem, the new batmobile looks more hightech and newer then the real batmobiles and this is supposed to be when he's just starting off. he shouldnt even have a batmobile yet.

it looks like batman is driving around in a monster truck.


You're forgeting that Batman is Bruce Wayne; he's freaking rich and has access to pretty much every single piece of technology his company has ever made. Batman could very well have a Batmobile from the very moment he decides to be Batman.


/me shrugs and walks away

[BreakABone]

Well to show why this batmobile is more bad ass than the ones that precede it.. there is a short clip of it in action

If you watch the clip you see why its better to be a tank.. and real durable...

http://www.theonenetwork.com/movies/Batman_Begins/5313/Film_Clip_Hold_On%21.html

[Krypton]

holy **** that thing looks awesome, just makes me want to see the movie even more.

[BreakABone]

Well this is a cool image for the movie, but can't find who the artist is.. pretty cool nonetheless.

http://img139.echo.cx/img139/7408/21et.jpg

Well didn't want to double post, but here is a a breakdown on the Tumbler.. it does contain spoilers I guess.. not story wise.. but details on things the tumbler can do...


http://img110.echo.cx/img110/4504/tumblerlatimes4yz4pc.jpg