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Jason1
06-02-2005, 06:02 PM
Taken from gamespot:

TOKYO--In its latest company profile report, Capcom has disclosed it plans to release a total of 10 games for the PlayStation Portable and three for the Nintendo DS during the current business year started April 1, 2005. Five of these games have already been announced, and the PSP editions of Viewtiful Joe and Devil May Cry could see the light of day before 2006. Further information should become available as the September Tokyo Game Show approaches.


Capcom plans to sell 1.45 million PSP games during this business year, which is nearly 10 times the volume it sold by the end of March 2005. Those sales were of the company's only current PSP offering, Vampire Chronicle: The Chaos Tower. The game sold a total of 150,000 copies by April 1, 2005.

With only three games in development for the DS, it seems clear that Capcom has decided to favor the PSP in its plans for the future. All three of Capcom's upcoming DS games have already been announced: Viewtiful Joe DS, Mega Man Battle Network, and Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney. Capcom plans to sell half a million DS games during the current business year. These three titles will be the first offerings for the DS from Capcom.

The company expects a 3.4-million-unit increase in sales of its PlayStation 2 games, but it also forecasts a massive decline in sales of its games for Nintendo platforms. Capcom expects a net profit of 3.9 billion yen ($36.3 million) for the current business year. The company made 3.6 billion yen ($33.5 million) during the business year ended March 31, 2005.

The rest of Capcom's FY 2005 sales projections are listed below.

FY 2004 Sales Results (4/1/2004 - 3/31/2005)
PlayStation 2 - 40 titles, 7.3 million copies
GameCube - five titles, 2 million copies
Xbox - seven titles, 250,000 copies
Game Boy Advance - seven titles, 3.4 million copies
PC & Misc. - 11 titles, 400,000 copies


FY 2005 Sales Estimates (4/01/2005 - 3/31/2006)
PlayStation 2 - 55 titles, 10.7 million copies
GameCube - four titles, 350,000 copies
Xbox - eight titles, 750,000 copies
Game Boy Advance - four titles, 1.25 million copies
PC & Misc. - zero titles, zero copies

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Now this article irks me for a number of reasons. Capcom seems to be really jumping ship to the PSP, stating that they expect thier Gamecube Sales to really drop off. But look at the numbers for 2004...they release a whopping 40 titles on the PS2 and only sell 7.3 Million copies, yet they release 5 titles on the Gamecube, and sell 2 Million Copies. Now I dont really feel like doing that math, but its pretty obvious that their Gamecube games are selling much better than their PS2 games. Yet theyre jumping ship and moving to the PS2 and PSP. I just dont get it, thats all. They talk about slumping sales on Nintendo platforms. No **** your sales are going to slump if you only release 4 titles on a platform compared to 55 on another.

Dyne
06-02-2005, 06:10 PM
They seem awfully confident in their Xbox numbers. That's kind of funny. What seven titles are coming out for Xbox from Capcom, anyways?

Jonbo298
06-02-2005, 07:35 PM
Oh well. Whatever happened to that 'uber awesome exclusivity deal' ;) :p I guess Capcom needs to realize just how many games are being released.

Theoretically, if you multiplied the number of GC - PS2 (ie times 8), GC sales would've been about 16 million (if my math is right). But thats a huge theory but at least it gives feasability to the fact that Capcom tries to BS their way out of making it sound like Nintendo is d000000000000000med

Perfect Stu
06-02-2005, 07:53 PM
Gamecube got Resident Evil 4...that is going to bloat percentages. The other Capcom titles probably sold poorly-moderately

Take away the PS2 Capcom bestseller and GC Capcom bestseller (RE4) and I bet the average is very close if not in the PS2's favor

Jonbo298
06-02-2005, 08:37 PM
Hence why I said Theoretically :p

MuGen
06-02-2005, 08:56 PM
You may do the math all you want, but Stu said it perfectly. You also have to look at which titles were released.

Capcom could've had 100 titles for the PS2 but only a few could've generated so many sales....RE:Outbreak, Devil May Cry 4, Onimusha 3...... And for Gamecube Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe titles sloped the percentage.

Jonbo298
06-02-2005, 09:05 PM
Theoretically :(

Jason1
06-02-2005, 10:04 PM
Gamecube got Resident Evil 4...that is going to bloat percentages. The other Capcom titles probably sold poorly-moderately

Take away the PS2 Capcom bestseller and GC Capcom bestseller (RE4) and I bet the average is very close if not in the PS2's favor


Yea, so. I could say the exact same thing about the PS2. "The PS2 got (Insert popular game here). Thats going to bloat percentages"

I dont see how its any different.

Ginkasa
06-02-2005, 11:30 PM
You may do the math all you want, but Stu said it perfectly. You also have to look at which titles were released.

Capcom could've had 100 titles for the PS2 but only a few could've generated so many sales....RE:Outbreak, Devil May Cry 4, Onimusha 3...... And for Gamecube Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe titles sloped the percentage.


You listed three PS2 games that could have "generated so many sales," but only two GCN games that sloped the figures...


/me shrugs and walks away

Perfect Stu
06-02-2005, 11:34 PM
I guess you guys dont understand percentages...

if 2 out of 5 games are, say, 2 million sellers and the rest are 100,000, the percentage is going to much higher than:

if 3 out of 40 games are 2 million sellers and the rest are even say, 300,000

MuGen
06-03-2005, 11:42 AM
It's not me thats not understanding.

Sony can ship 100 HDTV's to Circuit City and 50 HDTV's to Target. Say Sony reports a big sales boost from CC and a decline in Target.

But in CC they would have 50" WEGA's and in Target they could have 50" HDTV....

Just because theres more in one, doesn't mean thats the reason for the sale....It matters what's on sale too.

Perfect Stu
06-03-2005, 11:53 AM
It's not me thats not understanding.


I was referring to Jason and Link

Jason1
06-03-2005, 06:19 PM
Well if you put it that way, the PS2 had 40 chances to have hit million seller games, and the Gamecube only had 5. Which tells me Capcom's games are selling better on Gamecube. There's really no way around it.

Perfect Stu
06-03-2005, 09:12 PM
if I put it what way? the correct way?

Capcom is not going to pump out 40 million-sellers...honestly now, you're reaching too far. I guaruntee you put those same 40 titles on Gamecube instead and sales would be lower. Just like if RE4 had released on both system at the same time, PS2 sales would've been higher than Gamecube sales. That's just the way it is..."there's really no way around it" :rolleyes:

Jonbo298
06-03-2005, 10:30 PM
Jason, Link. Lets just let the issue drop in peace. Its obvious the PS2 is superior to all

Fox 6
06-03-2005, 10:46 PM
Its obvious the PS2 is superior to all

:hmm: Did I read that correctly?

Swan
06-03-2005, 10:53 PM
:hmm: Did I read that correctly?
I believe you did...NOW BOW DOWN BEFORE ITS MIGHT!

Ginkasa
06-03-2005, 11:06 PM
if I put it what way? the correct way?

Capcom is not going to pump out 40 million-sellers...honestly now, you're reaching too far. I guaruntee you put those same 40 titles on Gamecube instead and sales would be lower. Just like if RE4 had released on both system at the same time, PS2 sales would've been higher than Gamecube sales. That's just the way it is..."there's really no way around it" :rolleyes:


Is there some way to prove that...? Do we have the individual sales for RE4 and Viewtiful Joe on the GCN and whatever titles on the PS2?


/me shrugs and walks away

Perfect Stu
06-04-2005, 02:07 AM
Jason, Link. Lets just let the issue drop in peace. Its obvious the PS2 is superior to all


once again, you cant bring anything meaningful to the topic so you made a half-assed attempt at a sarcastic joke.

I'm disappointed, Jonbo...


and Link, what sales figures do you want, exactly?

the reason why I said "if these titles were released on both systems at the same time, the PS2 version would sell more" is because of current market trends. PS2 has a much higher installed base, and titles that HAVE been on both systems have almost ALWAYS sold more on the PS2. One that did better (or was close, I dont remember) on the Gamecube was Soul Calibur 2, and that was thanks to Nintendo's (smart) move by putting Link in the game.

Krypton
06-04-2005, 02:27 AM
Link, is this a cool picture?

http://david.gharib.free.fr/link,zelda,shiek.jpg

sorry if it's off topic

Swan
06-04-2005, 02:28 AM
Link, is this a cool picture?

http://david.gharib.free.fr/link,zelda,shiek.jpg
Um, I don't think that this relates to this...

EDIT: Sorry, you must of changed it while I was posting.

Krypton
06-04-2005, 02:28 AM
sorry if it's off topic

ummmm read actually

Ginkasa
06-04-2005, 11:55 AM
and Link, what sales figures do you want, exactly?

the reason why I said "if these titles were released on both systems at the same time, the PS2 version would sell more" is because of current market trends. PS2 has a much higher installed base, and titles that HAVE been on both systems have almost ALWAYS sold more on the PS2. One that did better (or was close, I dont remember) on the Gamecube was Soul Calibur 2, and that was thanks to Nintendo's (smart) move by putting Link in the game.


That works, I guess. I honestly really don't care. My first post was more of a joke (I just thought it was ironic). With my last post, I just saw you had said something and hadn't really backed it up... So I asked...

Anyway....

Uh, Krypton... While it is a cool picture, its super old and I've seen it before, and I used to own the game it comes from... And it is really off topic. If you have something to say or show to one specific member, you should PM them...


/me shrugs and walks away

Jonbo298
06-04-2005, 12:43 PM
once again, you cant bring anything meaningful to the topic so you made a half-assed attempt at a sarcastic joke.

I'm disappointed, Jonbo...


and Link, what sales figures do you want, exactly?

the reason why I said "if these titles were released on both systems at the same time, the PS2 version would sell more" is because of current market trends. PS2 has a much higher installed base, and titles that HAVE been on both systems have almost ALWAYS sold more on the PS2. One that did better (or was close, I dont remember) on the Gamecube was Soul Calibur 2, and that was thanks to Nintendo's (smart) move by putting Link in the game.

meh, I wasnt trying hard anyways. I was just bringing something up that seemed odd about Capcoms comments conflicing with what I was seeing but oh well. I never bring meaningful thought here anyways. Its all just sarcastic bad jokes :(

Jason1
06-04-2005, 12:58 PM
Viewtiful Joe was released on PS2. Id be willing to bet my life it sold better on the Gamecube.

Perfect Stu
06-04-2005, 01:36 PM
considering it was released HOW many months before the PS2 version?

that's like comparing RE4 sales on Gamecube to the upcoming PS2 release...or PS2 Grand Theft Auto San Andreas sales to thsoe of the soon-to-be-released XBox version

you still dont get the point...

Krypton
06-04-2005, 01:46 PM
I think Jason1 just got served, Perfect Stu makes a very good argument.

Jonbo298
06-04-2005, 02:27 PM
Still, my point that trying to compare 40 games sold on PS2 to 5 games on Gamecube and then claim Gamecube sales 'sucked' (not an exact quote but you get the point) is just not the right thing to say. Its utterly blatant why sales were lower then PS2. But you know what, I'm done with this thread. I tried being reasonable at first but everyone else has to tear my thing apart.

I am not being ****ing biased in this damn thread. I was just merely bringing up something I noticed

Perfect Stu
06-04-2005, 05:42 PM
dude, calm down. nobody called you biased. you made your point, and other people made theirs.

Ginkasa
06-04-2005, 06:12 PM
considering it was released HOW many months before the PS2 version?

that's like comparing RE4 sales on Gamecube to the upcoming PS2 release...or PS2 Grand Theft Auto San Andreas sales to thsoe of the soon-to-be-released XBox version

you still dont get the point...


What about Viewtiful Joe 2? Wasn't that released for both...?


/me shrugs and walks away