Nintendo Press Conference

[Canyarion]

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3live.html Watch it live, starts in 30 minutes.

This is it people, the moment most of us have been waiting for. The revelation of the revolution.

[Dark Samurai]

I got it on IGN Insider, so meh...

[MuGen]

Let's hope their bark has a little bite this time around. (in terms of E3 speculation to showing... the GCN had a lot of bite... )

[Neo]

15 min....

I'm going to try to listen in at work.

[Canyarion]

Where...... do...... I see it? GameSpot doesn't work! :(

[Teuthida]

Not live if you aren't a subscriber.

[Crash]

what time did it start>?

[Canyarion]

Bah. It started 10 minutes ago, but we have to wait. :(
The official Nintendo site tells us to wait 45 minutes.

[Neo]

It hasn't started yet. They're just playing music. Maybe Reggie misplaced the Revolution mockup?

[Crash]

http://press.nintendo.com/object?id=1184

most people know that password

[Canyarion]

What what what, I can log in there? PM me please. :)

[Crash]

Revolution joins the gaming wars

By Steven Kent, Special for USA TODAY

LOS ANGELES — The players are in place for the next video game battle of the big guns.

“All-access”: Revolution is meant to beflexible for designers and players alike.
Nintendo

Nintendo reveals details Tuesday of its new system, code-named Revolution, after Sony's announcement of the PlayStation 3 console Monday and Microsoft's unveiling of Xbox 360 on an MTV special last Thursday. (Related story: PS3 purports to pack the most power)

All the action is taking place before the annual E3 Expo, which begins Wednesday. The three gaming giants will unveil the systems there.

Microsoft is expected to have the Xbox 360 in stores first, in time for the holidays. Nintendo and Sony will follow in 2006. No prices have been set, and release dates have not been locked in.

Nintendo, whose GameCube sales have lagged, hopes to gain ground, particularly among the fast-growing older-gaming market. Revolution is about the size of a stack of three DVD cases and has no visible knobs, buttons or ports for joysticks. The system will use only wireless controllers, and it sits flat or stands vertically.

With its front-loading slot for discs, it will play games on full-size DVDs as well as older GameCube games on mini-DVDs. Like Xbox and PlayStation 2, it will play DVD movies.

Nintendo, which mostly ignored the Net with GameCube, also is catching up with the online wave. Revolution will offer broadband access to a free Internet-based player matching service, similar to Xbox Live, that also will have downloadable versions of nearly every Nintendo game — from arcade classic Donkey Kong through current titles such as Mario Sunshine. (Nintendo hasn't decided whether downloading will be free.)

Xbox spokesmen have pointed out that 360's specifications are 10 to 13 times more powerful than those of the original Xbox; Sony said Monday that the processor in Play-Station 3, which will come in several colors and be out next spring, will be 35 times more powerful than the PS2 processor.

Nintendo makes more modest claims that Revolution is two or three times more powerful than GameCube. "It's not all about having 'turbo power,' " Nintendo's Perrin Kaplan says. "It's about what you do with it."

Analyst Richard Doherty of The Envisioneering Group says one of Revolution's chief advantages is that designers will find it far easier to create games for Revolution than for competing systems. "They do not need to make major changes from the games they were designing," he says. "They have better performance without having to do a lot of extra work."

Says Kaplan: "We've built Revolution around the concept of 'all-access gaming,' " a term Nintendo uses to mean the system is easily adapted to by both gamers and designers. "We're about sticking to the soul of gaming."



OH ****!!!! NOT GOOD

[Neo]

Depends on how you define "power."

The conference may be delayed until 12

[Crash]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3140623


http://www.1up.com/media?id=1897381&type=lg


BADDASS

[MuGen]

box spokesmen have pointed out that 360's specifications are 10 to 13 times more powerful than those of the original Xbox; Sony said Monday that the processor in Play-Station 3, which will come in several colors and be out next spring, will be 35 times more powerful than the PS2 processor.

Nintendo makes more modest claims that Revolution is two or three times more powerful than GameCube. "It's not all about having 'turbo power,' " Nintendo's Perrin Kaplan says. "It's about what you do with it."

10-13... to 35 times more. .. to 2-3 times more powerful?

Not good is the right word....

[Crash]

http://www.1up.com/media?id=1897375&type=lg
Sleek as all hell... Revolutionary? Dunno

[Canyarion]

That had no new information. :p

[Crash]

that is where nintendo puts all the stuff as soon as the show starts, you'll thank me.

[Neo]

10x as powerful does not mean games will look 10x as good. I question those numbers.

Nintendo.com is counting down from 38 min

[Neo]

Maybe the GC discs go in that top slot/panel?

[Crash]

http://www.1up.com/media?id=1897379&type=lg
nintendo takes it for best looking systems by far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dark Samurai]

http://www.1up.com/media?id=1897379&type=lg
nintendo takes it for best looking systems by far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AGREED!!!

[Canyarion]

Crash, I did thank you. Again: thanks for the link. :)

I meant the article that you posted: no new info.
Those pics are old. Half a day old?

[Crash]

Zelda is the best


http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/1.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/2.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/3.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/4.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/5.jpg

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http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/7.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/8.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/9.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/10.jpg

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http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/12.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/13.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/14.jpg

http://webpages.charter.net/lunaraura/Zelda/15.jpg

[Canyarion]

Try searching the forum first before you post stuff.... Sorry, but this has nothing to do with the conference. :(

[Crash]

FREE NINTENDO CONFERENCE

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/ebms/8562/256_ebms-e3video_050514.asx


Sorry, woke up too late.... THIS WILL BE A GOOD POST FOR YA

[Canyarion]

Thanks a lot for that! :D I got the same thing from Xantar, but whatever.

Let's bring it on!!!!!!! :mad: Start the show!!!!! :(

[Neo]

It's about to start!!

There must be a Nintendo conference buried under this music somewhere... :confused:

[Canyarion]

It's annyoing how they turn down the music, as if it's about to start. :(

[BreakABone]

Got word from my peeps in LA

Apparently they are delaying because someone lost Reggie's ass kicking list. They are in a panic to find it.

Or he is gonna have to take even more names!!!!!!!1

[Neo]

kick it Reggie

[Crash]

12 minutes:

"Dont make me do it, dont make me take your name"
-REGGIE

[Canyarion]

Yay, watching. Getting hyped now.

[Crash]

damn, mine has no sound

[thatmariolover]

My connection keeps stuttering everytime Reggie tries to say a "key word." Highly frustrating.

[GameMaster]

As a unbiased video gamer, I have to say, the Revolution wins the design award. Small and sleek is what next generation's gamers have been wanting and Nintendo served it up gourmet. The conference is amazing!

[DeathsHand]

Wow guys, a professional DJ can create music with this new 'non-game' on DS!!

Well, 2 DS's... With the help of a bunch of DJ equiptment...

Come on, get to the revolution...

[Neo]

Ok sorry no one cares about Electroplankton....yeah yeah it plays music, time to move on.

[GameMaster]

I heard the controller might not be shown until next week! Can anyone confirm this? OMG, I can't wait to see Reggie. He is the best and Nintendo Revolution is so awesome!

[Stray_Bullet]

They're all pretty good this year in design. I personally like the shape of the XBox360 the most. However, the Rev's small size and "self-loading" port make it the best of 'em overall. It's shape is not interesting, but it's sharp. Only problem I have with it is that it looks like it should be in my car replacing the stereo.

Can anyone say "Pimp My Ride"?

[Canyarion]

Give us games!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

[Canyarion]

What happened there with the dogs?

Edit:

GameBoy Micro: a small thing (fits on your hand) that plays GBA games.

[GameMaster]

Please let there be Super Smash Bros. Revolution Extreme movies!!! :(

[Dark Samurai]

GAME BOY MICRO!!!

[Neo]

WTF IS THAT

[DeathsHand]

WOW GUYS! YET ANOTHER NEW MODEL OF GBA!!

[Dark Samurai]

Only the smallest GB ever created...

[Canyarion]

Revolution coming.

DS games: Mario&Luigi, Super Mario (with Luigi), some more stuff that I don't remember.

[Dark Samurai]

Revolution is SOO SMALL!!!

[DeathsHand]

Only the smallest GB ever created...

Wow!! I'll buy 3! On top of my GBA SP...

Ok revolution, now we get to the goods...

[GameMaster]

OMG, that GB is amazing! Everything about Nintendo is revolutionary this year! It's SO much smaller than PSP!

[Canyarion]

Controller, console, tv, internet..... yes yes, hurry hurry

[Dark Samurai]

CONTROLLERCONTROLLERCONTROLLERCONTROLLERCONTROLLER~~~!!!!

[Canyarion]

Controller to be shown later (this E³?).
I couldn't hear what he said that caused the applause?!?

Bah, Miyamoto's name not shown. :(

[GameMaster]

OMG, I HAVE 2 see the controller now!!!

[Canyarion]

Nono, controller not showed, I think. Perhaps later? :unsure: Or did he mean later in his speech?

[MuGen]

A lot of bustle in this thread, but wheres the info? Nothing on Revolution yet?

[Null]

Soo... minus all the handheld crap. Anything good shown or said yet?

[Canyarion]

Controller after all, revealed by Miyamoto?
Edit: not Miyamoto, but the US guy.... George something?

Blabla Advance Wars Cubed has a new name: Battalion War.
Pokémon XD: XD

[Dark Samurai]

we're waiting on the controller...

[DeathsHand]

I love the idea of being able to download/purchase nearly the entire Nintendo library dating back to NES...

That's an amazing idea (hopefully with an iTunes-esque price, if it's not free.... a buck per old NES game)...

But Revolution is a NEW console... let's hear the new details... plz :<

[GameMaster]

Do you see that Pokemon game! PS3 graphics or beyond!

[Canyarion]

Baaaaaah too much Mario crap. Mario Soccer, Dance Dance Revolution, Baseball, Party 7....

A lot of GCN games.
Now for the Zelda game..... best for last: no revolution? :baby:

[Neo]

Mario you whore you.

[GameMaster]

Shadow the Hedgehog: Best. Gamecube. Game. Of. E3.

[Neo]

Where the heck is Mario 128?

[GameMaster]

OMG! Nintendo stole my idea. Link DOES change into mighty wolf!

[Canyarion]

Zelda trailer. Nice, but not as spectacular as the last ones.
Everybody gets the trailer on a DS card.

No revolution! End of the conference!

[DeathsHand]

Wow, what a complete waste of time that was.

Though the new Zelda trailer is... interesting...... What was up with those virtual-esque effects of the enemies falling out of the sky? o.O

And the wolf shapeshifting... hmmm *strokes beard*

[Null]

that was it? its over?

[Crash]

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[GameMaster]

It appears they're having technical difficulties, I'm going to wait around, their presentation isn't over.

[Teuthida]

Wow that really sucked. No controller. No revolution video. And Mario is the whoreiest of whores.

Zelda was nice though.

[Null]

gay


suddenly that banana looking better? lol


Im sure the evolution will be good. but this is how much i expected they would talk of it. they said the focus was DS. altho i expected them to not show the design, but show tech demos instead. i was surprised they did that at least.

[MuGen]

And the press conference, much hyped by Nintendites alike.... slowly fades into the glory of Zelda.....

the revolution fades.... seriously...

That was Nintendo's chance to unveil it wholeheartedly at their own time with their own people.

Microsoft and Sony have already unveiled their systems and their gameplay and both look awesome, with PS3 looking even more awesome (pardon my Fanboy ism).

Now Nintendo will have to unveil the Revolution on their showroom floor but it will have to compete with PS3 and X360 showroom hype...... Instead of unveiling it on their press conference where they have the crowd to themselves....

bad move....

[GameMaster]

Don't worry everyone, that was just the appetizer, Nintendo has a smokin main course waiting for us!

DarkMaster can confirm that too.

[Canyarion]

SpaceWorld 2005? :(

[DeathsHand]

I love the IGN board reaction... After everyone was busy laughing at Xbox360, now everyone's complaining about Nintendo's own press conference :p

Granted that doesn't mean the revoultion is gonna be bad, it's just that when Microsoft and Sony are really showing off what their next system can do, and people are blown away by at least one of them, you gotta show SOMETHING....

What are the graphics going to look like, what will the controller have that'll make it so revolutionary... A tech demo, a mockup of the controller, or even spoken DETAILS on what makes the controller 'revolutionary'... ANTHING...

Their only 2 real surprises were the GBA Micro, and the ability to download (supposidly nearly every) old NES, SNES, and N64 games... And both of those are sticking to things from the past, not moving towards the future and the "revolution"...

At this point I'm hoping for a Spaceworld 2005... If they don't spill the beans on it then, does that mean they wouldn't fully reveal it until NEXT E3? *strokes beard*...

[Canyarion]

Nono, that's not what they said. They said "nearly every game WE made". So at least first party games.

GB Micro.... what can we say? :unsure:

[Perfect Stu]

WTF?

I just woke up about 20 minutes ago, strolled down to read up on some BADAZZ Revolution stuff, but where are the goods?

It is a sleek design, but where are the games? Tech demos? Mario 128? :(

GB Micro is nothing...Zelda, I've seen trailers and screens. Please tell me there's more than this, guys...

[DeathsHand]

Nono, that's not what they said. They said "nearly every game WE made". So at least first party games.



See that's what I initially thought when he brought up the downloading old games thing... But I coulda sworn there was a time when he said it in a more general way, implying that it goes beyond just Nintendo's games...

If it's just Nintendo's games that will be available, as good as they are, even that's a dissapointment...

[Null]

At this point I'm hoping for a Spaceworld 2005... If they don't spill the beans on it then, does that mean they wouldn't fully reveal it until NEXT E3? *strokes beard*...

even tho i cand find a link, im POSITIVE i read there isnt ever going to be a spaceworld again, its cancelled for good. Even mroe proven by the fact there hasnt been one since 2000.

[Teuthida]

And that design isn't even final so in actuality we saw nothing.

I didn't expect to see the console. Just a tech video. Got the opposite. Makes no sense.

[Neo]

I can't believe they would make us wait another year to see the controller.

[MuGen]

That press conference was disappointing. I was trying to be unbiased this E3 and give each console a good piece of my time..... Now the only console for me seems to be the PS3 and MAYBE the X360...

[Teuthida]

Maybe they're gonna improve the power of the Rev before showing it again? Sounded like they weren't even half done making it when talking about their IBM and the like. Wishful thinking?

[MuGen]

Well I don't blame you guys for the prospect, but Nintendo dug their own grave to the media when they speculated 3 times the power then the GCN... compared to what Sony and Micro said....

When it comes to how many times more powerful it is... I really could careless, I just know that I saw a wonderful display of power by the PS3. And Nintendo coming out with a ass number like 3 times more powerful.......... It's not bad, but when saying that to the media and press... you kinda dig your own grave.

Many forums are already shafting the Revolution because of that statement.

[Null]

I can't believe they would make us wait another year to see the controller.


Why not? we had to wait till the last minute to see gamecube and its controller too.

I think at the first E3 sony and MS showed off thier stuff, nintendo ran a couple tech demos. had to wait till the year after to see the GC.

[Teuthida]

They're smart. By next year PS3 is gonna be old news. Nintendo has given themselves another year of fan speculation and hype.

[Neo]

"Once you see the Revolution graphics you will say 'wow'." That is if we ever decide to show them to you...

[Dark Samurai]

They're smart. By next year PS3 is gonna be old news. Nintendo has given themselves another year of fan speculation and hype.

Yeah, Nintendo is just stripteasing us, showing us a little bit of something for a short period of time before showing something else...

[MuGen]

Once you see the 1-3 times more power then GCN in the Revolution by next year... you will see people lining up to pre-order PS3....

EDIT: I love how amongst all the disappointments, you guys are trying to justify for Nintendo why they didn't show anything or any specs.

If anyone knows why Nintendo is doing what they are doing... it's Nintendo themselves.

[Teuthida]

They got another year to work on their wowness.

[Null]

They're smart. By next year PS3 is gonna be old news. Nintendo has given themselves another year of fan speculation and hype.


sounds oddly familar, oh yes. that stratagy has worked well for them in the past. lol


honestly, not a smart move at all. thier fans wanna see hype, they want to KNOW what they're wating for. some of nintendos userbase is either going to go out and buy an 360, or decide on PS3, BEFORE evolution is even shown. then when its shown its like, oh well, already reserved or bought something else.

they didnt have to show everything, but they needed to give people a reason to wait for em.

[MuGen]

Good job Null.... you successfully posted something that they won't really care about... they are busy making up excuses for Nintendo as to why they didn't show anything.

[Teuthida]

I got hype coming out every orifice for Twilight Princess. I couldn't care less for next gen right now. Even now those PS3 videos are a distant memory...gah, can't stop watching the trailer.

[DarkMaster]

*sigh* Disappointing. Was really hoping to be WOW'ed.



Well, off to report about GBA Micro details...

[fingersman]

Hey do any of you guys know where I can get a download of all of the conferences?

[One Winged Angel]

at least it doesn't come in purple...

[Bond]

That thing looks like a ****ing external CD drive.

[BlueFire]

Wow..
How depressing. LOL

Well.. at least it's not that bad. I expected it from Nintendo. :P

[MuGen]

I wonder how much "patience" Nintendo fans have now...

I still remember when couple of people here said "You need to have patience with Nintendo..."

[Teuthida]

I have opted to have myself cryogenically frozen until Revolution info becomes readily available.

[GameMaster]

The reason Nintendo didn't want to reveal much is because they're still not finished constructing Project: Revolution. Very smart move in my book. While Microsoft and Sony already have their systems finalized and complete, Nintendo is taking another year to continue improving and optimizing what will be the ultimate gaming system.

Next year's E3 prediction: Project: Revolution being the ultimate gaming system and the next Gameboy having power and graphics equal to PS3.

Oh Sony, if only you hadn't rushed. :shakehead Looks like you'll learn your lesson the Dreamcast way...

[Dark Samurai]

I wonder how much "patience" Nintendo fans have now...

I still remember when couple of people here said "You need to have patience with Nintendo..."

Uh... yeeeah, trust me I have tons...

[DarrenMcLeod]

Nintendo was stupid for saying 2-3 times more powerful than GameCube. They always understate things, and I bet you won't be able to tell the difference between Rev and Xbox 360.

Kyuzo - I don't understand you coming in and bashing Nintendo in every way you can. Xbox 360 wasn't revealed last year, and it will be released later this year, and yet you don't bash them for it. By the time PS3 is released, Revolution will have already been unveiled, and so they will be on an even playing field. Revealing this early does nothing for Sony other than create hype that is too early for preorders anyways.

People aren't going to start lining up to pre-order the PS3 because Sony overspeculates their system's power while Nintendo underdescribes theirs. The difference in graphics will not be that great.

Am I disapointed there wasn't much shown? Hell yeah, but it was expected, and showing anything this year was only Sony trying to convince gamers not to buy an XBox 360.

[One Winged Angel]

At this point, the difference in graphics is not going to be phenominal. I'm more amused by the fact you'll be able to download old games from NES, SNES, N64 and the GC (assuming its free).

btw, the other systems look uglier.

[DeathsHand]

Kyuzo - I don't understand you coming in and bashing Nintendo in every way you can. Xbox 360 wasn't revealed last year, and it will be released later this year, and yet you don't bash them for it. By the time PS3 is released, Revolution will have already been unveiled, and so they will be on an even playing field. Revealing this early does nothing for Sony other than create hype that is too early for preorders anyways.

People aren't going to start lining up to pre-order the PS3 because Sony overspeculates their system's power while Nintendo underdescribes theirs. The difference in graphics will not be that great.

While I agree Sony's graphical capabilities seem a bit overrated, they maybe not as overrated as some people are thinking... I can definately see how Killzone 2 isn't gonna happen in the actual game... maybe the GRAPHICS will look that good, however half of what makes that video so amazing is all the activity on the screen at once... And not just the activity in general, all the unique, situation-specific activity going on... It's basically too scripted to be 100% believable...

As for Revolution, I think the graphics will be good enough... Maybe every bit as good as PS3... But we can't be sure yet... As much as that will be the focus for a lot of people's initial reaction, I'm more interested in them finally letting the dern cat out of the bag about the controller... I mean it's supposed to be so amazing... But with all this talk of uber-backwards-compatibility, it can't be TOO different because it would make playing those existing games way too awkward.... Although they could easily release a special CLASSIXXX controller for a bit of extra cash...

As for getting a head start, getting a head start on hype always helps...

If you get people talking early, they get their mind set on buying the PS3... And when they've had their mind set on buying the PS3 for so long, it's less likely that, no matter how amazing the revolution's true revealing might be, people will suddenly pull a 360 (GET IT!? HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and buy a Revolution...

But again, nobody can be sure until it's released and we hear the public's reaction :p

And one last note, on the super compatilbility download NES/SNES/N64 games...

First off, if it's ONLY Nintendo's games, as good as they are, that's lame (I think I've said that before maybe)... Second, assuming it's all games (or at least all the major ones), I'm hoping they don't do something like say... "Well if you wanna buy Chrono Trigger used, you're gonna have to shell out around 50 bucks... So we can sell a downloadable version for saaaaay 29.99!"... But instead go for an approach of a set fee... Maybe NES games a buck, SNES games 1 or 2... N64 games maybe as much as 5... With prices varying in certain situations...

But you get the idea... If Nintendo tries to rip a hole in people's pockets with these emulated versions of old games, that'll be beyond a ripoff, and a crying shame... They're not making ANY money on those games currently anyways...

[bobcat]

Kyuzo, one of your most annoying habits is pointing out the obvious 100 times over.......

Yes we know the conference was disappointing, and I normally expect this from Nintendo anyway so my expectations were not high in the first place. I still enjoy their games and I still can't wait to see what they have to offer, but by now I have learnt that Nintendo don't compete very well with the other consoles. They do things their own way, which sometimes really hurts them, but I enjoy their games and can't wait to get more info on the revolution.

[Teuthida]

THURSDAY

[DarrenMcLeod]

As for Revolution, I think the graphics will be good enough... Maybe every bit as good as PS3... But we can't be sure yet... As much as that will be the focus for a lot of people's initial reaction, I'm more interested in them finally letting the dern cat out of the bag about the controller... I mean it's supposed to be so amazing... But with all this talk of uber-backwards-compatibility, it can't be TOO different because it would make playing those existing games way too awkward.... Although they could easily release a special CLASSIXXX controller for a bit of extra cash...

I don't think the PS3's capabilites are super overhyped. I just remember Sony telling numbers about 70 million polygons a second and Toy Story rendered in real time for PS2, and that never happened. We know they like to BS a little with their ideas, that's all. I don't think Revolution's graphics will be as good as PS3, buy Kyuzo is making it sound like they are ging to be the difference between N64 and PS2. They won't. It'll be the difference of PS2 and XBox, if that. The further we go into these games the less of a difference you can notice.

[Neo]

THURSDAY

The video at nintendo.com hinted something big is going down on Thursday. That is according to the people who saw it before they took it off.

[Neo]

from ign:

Aries said that Nintendo's conference would be a letdown but that they had a BIG surprise, and kept referring to the 19th.


-matt says this aries is fake, but just after that
-all the aries predictions have come true...
-then again aries' IP is from bank of america, a bank as in "the game" movie, which aries told us to watch.
-Matt posted that infamous "hot or not" pic in the rev board when prime3 is going to be a GC game.
-Aries predicted nintendo's conference was going to be weak on purpouse.
-there are this strange videos at nintedo.com
-there is a secret booth called "club revolution".
-Pics from ign supposedly apeared on a no-name site.
-There is a NINTENDO NOW advertisement at the new nintendo.com and a weird background.
-IGN has been pretty quiet after nintendo's conference.
-Everybody is waitint the 19th...



The fact that this video was at nintendo.com with nintendo execs makes it credible. SOMETHING BIG is going to happen. I'd say either Mario128 or the Revolution controller.

[Crash]

from ign:

Aries said that Nintendo's conference would be a letdown but that they had a BIG surprise, and kept referring to the 19th.


-matt says this aries is fake, but just after that
-all the aries predictions have come true...
-then again aries' IP is from bank of america, a bank as in "the game" movie, which aries told us to watch.
-Matt posted that infamous "hot or not" pic in the rev board when prime3 is going to be a GC game.
-Aries predicted nintendo's conference was going to be weak on purpouse.
-there are this strange videos at nintedo.com
-there is a secret booth called "club revolution".
-Pics from ign supposedly apeared on a no-name site.
-There is a NINTENDO NOW advertisement at the new nintendo.com and a weird background.
-IGN has been pretty quiet after nintendo's conference.
-Everybody is waitint the 19th...



The fact that this video was at nintendo.com with nintendo execs makes it credible. SOMETHING BIG is going to happen. I'd say either Mario128 or the Revolution controller.



what is everyone talking about? I love bees kinda thing with the revolution? I see that thing on nintendo's site, what the hell is nintendo now?

[DeathsHand]

I just remember Sony telling numbers about 70 million polygons a second and Toy Story rendered in real time for PS2, and that never happened.

Yeah, these PS3 demos did bring up suspicions based on PS2's unveiling and tech-demos, and how it never fully lived up to the hype... But a girl can still dream!

I mean we all know that the numbers show that PS3 is increeeedibly powerful... The problem is, Xbox360 has a fairly lackluster showing (of games which I've heard were actually running on things that represent only about half of the 360s full power), then PS3 blows everyone's socks off with these amazing demos and claims, and people scream "That can't be real!"...

So basically right now it's a matter of having faith and adopting a wait and see approach...

Even if those tech demos are to PS3 as PS2's were to... PS2... I still think this generation's graphical leap will be much bigger than some people were expecting (and recently doubting based on Xbox 360s 'Xbox 1.5' showing)...

Jeez, my posts are getting longer... Reminds me of back in the day... PS2 vs. Dolphin! Xbox roflmao it's just a glorified PC!!!

It's good to be getting back into all that excitement again (^-^

Edit: Now Neo's got me damn excited... I hope this isn't a let down...

I'm hoping for a more in-depth revealing of the Revolution... It's controller perhaps... I thought that the way Iwata (or whoever it was) brought up the controller, but then said "Which we will be showing you... sometime later" or something like that seemed a tad suspicious if you ask me... He chuckled as people sorta sighed in dissapointment...

E3 tends to be very top-heavy... Starts off with a bang, goes out with very few details... I think it'd be quite rad if Nintendo got people's hopes down, then bam left the show with a bang...

[Crash]

And does anyone know if Advanced Wars:Gamecube version got turned into Battalion whatever?

[MuGen]

Uhmmm... Stop overreacting... if you know yourself the Nintendo conference was disappointing, then it shouldn't tick you off SO MUCH when others say it.

And If I'm bashing any system it's the Xbox 360. The only thing I was bashing was Nintendo's conference, and not their Revolution or anything else. I actually have high hopes for Nintendo's revolution. But if you haven't noticed already... I'm a Sony fanboy... so get used to it. You've all gotten used to Crash' antics and GameMasters' antics...... but you guys don't seem to get used to mine, and you have to point out my vices all the time.

Either ignore me or get used to me.... I'm a fanboy and I'm pretty sure everyone else is here too, but I have a very conspicious way of showing it.

Like I said, I'm excited about the Revolution from what I've seen, but I was disappointed in their showing.... who the hell cares if I say that more than once? The conference was disappointing, the conference was disappointing.... If it bothers you so much ignore it...

I dunno what the big deal here is...

Do I complain about you guys constantly bashing the PS3 controller? No...

EDIT: The thing about the demos and footage of the games that was shown at the Conference is that they were being run on the PS3 itself. It maybe wasn't the actual game, but it shows the PS3 is capable of rendering those kind of graphics. Right now, I believe what they showed is what we're gonna get.... The only thing I expect to change is the design abit and the controller abit.

[Crash]

Uhmmm... Stop overreacting... if you know yourself the Nintendo conference was disappointing, then it shouldn't tick you off SO MUCH when others say it.

And If I'm bashing any system it's the Xbox 360. The only thing I was bashing was Nintendo's conference, and not their Revolution or anything else. I actually have high hopes for Nintendo's revolution. But if you haven't noticed already... I'm a Sony fanboy... so get used to it. You've all gotten used to Crash' antics and GameMasters' antics...... but you guys don't seem to get used to mine, and you have to point out my vices all the time.

Either ignore me or get used to me.... I'm a fanboy and I'm pretty sure everyone else is here too, but I have a very conspicious way of showing it.

Like I said, I'm excited about the Revolution from what I've seen, but I was disappointed in their showing.... who the hell cares if I say that more than once? The conference was disappointing, the conference was disappointing.... If it bothers you so much ignore it...

I dunno what the big deal here is...

Do I complain about you guys constantly bashing the PS3 controller? No...

EDIT: The thing about the demos and footage of the games that was shown at the Conference is that they were being run on the PS3 itself. It maybe wasn't the actual game, but it shows the PS3 is capable of rendering those kind of graphics. Right now, I believe what they showed is what we're gonna get.... The only thing I expect to change is the design abit and the controller abit.


I'm used to you.. I think Kyuzo is a good balance to GM and Me. Leave Kyuzo to his PSGrill and everyone will be happy :D

[Teuthida]

And does anyone know if Advanced Wars:Gamecube version got turned into Battalion whatever?

Yeah it did.


Thursday

[MuGen]

I'm used to you.. I think Kyuzo is a good balance to GM and Me. Leave Kyuzo to his PSGrill and everyone will be happy :D

Thanks Man... I'll leave you alone with whatever you do... considering half the time your with MicroShaft and half the time your with Nintendo...

I'll just say your against Sony... LOL

Anyways... I'm glad we can all be fanboys alike and still get along

[Teuthida]

I was excited about PS3 but with you covering it I feel I must defend...

...Thursday.

[Neo]

And does anyone know if Advanced Wars:Gamecube version got turned into Battalion whatever?

That was my impression. The video looked like the screen shots from GC Wars.

[Crash]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2005/revo/large_img/revo_7l.jpg

oooh cool

[MuGen]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/e3_2005/revo/large_img/revo_7l.jpg

oooh cool

I guess their Revolutionary controller may in fact be something totally different. I see those ports and they look like GCN ports, so they are there for BWC.

So... the revolutionary controller isn't out of the question anymore.

[Dark Samurai]

Is that real?

Well then, maybe the GC controller is meant to play all the games of past, and the rev controller is used PURELY for the rev... if only...

And Kyuzo, calm down, I'm used to you... in here and out of here...

That and I told you that I'm getting a PS3, just for show of course [/endsarcasm] , and the Revolution...

[Dyne]

Well I've purposefully avoided posting anywhere in E3 discussions because I hate the antics.

But I'll make this post brief.

I went into E3 as unbiased as I could. I got really excited about PS3 last night. It's good except for the controller, which looks like ass.

So, today, when I logged on, I got all the Nintendo conference updates. I didn't bother coming here; I went straight to Nintendo.com. I was really happy with everything. The Gameboy Micro is really "meh" in my books. Unless it's like $40-$50, I won't be looking into it.

Zelda I'm really happy about. The art direction is superb, and I really love the graphics.

Then I got a gander at the Revolution. I'm really satisfied with it. The design is definitely the best part. There's nothing really horribly gimmicky with it. Overall, nothing I would change or add at all. I can't wait to see the games coming. And I haven't read much, but I can't see anything to complain about the Revolution, at all. Aside from the fanboys who will find SOME way to complain.

My only hope right now is that Nintendo gets the respect it deserves. I am so sick and tired of the Gamecube being whipped and tossed around this generation. The Revolution honestly looks a great deal more fixed than the Gamecube was. I will seriously hate anybody who ignores the Revolution when it comes to comparisons unless it arrives extremely flawed. Until then, I spit at anybody who just does "OMG PS3 vs. XBOX 360 this that".

Dyne out.

[DeathsHand]

There's nothing really horribly gimmicky with it. Overall, nothing I would change or add at all. I can't wait to see the games coming. And I haven't read much, but I can't see anything to complain about the Revolution, at all. Aside from the fanboys who will find SOME way to complain.

But see, problems with what Nintendo revealed about the revolution aren't what people are talking about, it's the lack of information...

If you ask me, the only threat there ever was of anything possibly being gimmicky had to do with the controller... Which... we still havn't seen... And will apparently be a huge part of the system and the way it works...

You can't see anything to complain about because we havn't really seen anything, and after Microsoft and especially Sony's huge showings, that's the whole problem people are having now...

Nintendo fanboys don't usually find ways to complain, they find ways to go insanely over-the-top apesh*t CRRAAZY excited over everything Nintendo reveals...

[Null]

and showing anything this year was only Sony trying to convince gamers not to buy an XBox 360.

which is exactly what they should do. Sony isnt afraid of letting thier cards show. Nintendo is. Sony gave reasons to hold out on Xbox for a PS3. Nintendo shoulda tried to give reasons to hold out on PS3 for a nintendo. or at least, gave them a reason to wait and see whats coming from them.


I don't think the PS3's capabilites are super overhyped. I just remember Sony telling numbers about 70 million polygons a second and Toy Story rendered in real time for PS2, and that never happened. We know they like to BS a little with their ideas, that's all. I don't think Revolution's graphics will be as good as PS3, buy Kyuzo is making it sound like they are ging to be the difference between N64 and PS2. They won't. It'll be the difference of PS2 and XBox, if that. The further we go into these games the less of a difference you can notice.

And how quickly we forget nintendo did the same thing. i sure as hell remember seeing thoes tech demos at e3 long ago, holy cow. look at that amazing fight between ganon and link!!! gamecube is going to be so awsome! and fans ate up that hype like no tomorrow. this has ALWAYS been the case with all the consoles.


My main, and pretty much only problem with nintendos conference, is that they didnt give gamers a reason to wait for them. they didnt plant the seed.

[bobcat]

Of course we can.

We're a Gametavern family...........now everybody hold hands....

[KillerGremlin]

I've been busy, so I'm a little late with all this, but after reading all about the PS3....well, all I can say is, Nintendo dug their own hole and I'd be laughing but I'm to busy drooling over the new Sony hardware. Can you say kick ass? Holy crap, the PS3 is godly right now, and if I get a next-gen console, which I probably won't, it'll be the PS3.

[Perfect Stu]

Sony overspeculates their system's power while Nintendo underdescribes theirs.


prove it

[DarrenMcLeod]

prove it
I'm talking about in the past. Again, I already mentioned what Sony said about PS2 and the Emotion Engine that never held up (70 million polygons, Toy Story in real-time), whereas Nintendo's battery life for GBA, DS, and Wavebird were more than they stated, and Wavebird can go WAY past the 20-30 feet or whatever number they gave it. I'm not going to argue specs about this generation because we don't know Nintendo's, numbers don't mean everything, and I'm 99.9% sure PS3 will be more powerful anyways.

[DeathsHand]

So yeah, at the risk of setting myself up for a huge dissapointment, I am now, in my own mind, about 99% certain that Thursday will infact mean something big... And I think it's even tied into the mockup video...

Bada bing (http://www.nintendonow.com/index.php?categoryid=5&m_articles_articleid=2635&PHPSESSID=93303b2cb674f6c3b9cebabbe0b71986)

That site has a very nice explanation of all the 'coincidences', where Aries has been right, the weird videos on Nintendo, etc...

From the second that guy from Nintendo said "We will show you the controller... Later... *little smile as everyone groans because they want it NOW!*", I had a feeling something was up... That by 'Later', he didn't mean fall, or next E3...

And then at the end of the article, this really caught my attention...

Today at the Nintendo Press Conference was something even more astonishing. Reggie Fils-Aime mentioned multiple times that we all need to think with our “Right Brain”. A comment such as this isn’t very common, but for some reason also appears in the video as the name of the headset: “The Brain”

I think Nintendo intentionally made the amateurish Aries 'Insider blog', and had a hand in creating that mockup as well...

The graphics might not actually be from revolution (although they might), that headset might not be the real thing (although... it might)... But again, another amatuerish tidbit, reflecting the IDEA of what might be shown off Thursday...

I feel kinda silly... I sound like some fanboy in denial... "Nintendo's press conference was dissapointing! THEY MUST HAVE SOMETHING UP THEIR SLEAVE! PLZ!? *cries*"... But there just seem to be too many 'coincidental' connections for it to just be... a coincidence...

I'd be as mellow and mysterious as Danchastu was but I'm too excited about the possibilities! >_<

[Canyarion]

That'd be absolutely amazing. They could win E³ again with something like this.

If not true, worst Nintendo E³ action ever.

[BreakABone]

Well, I've been trying to tell Danny to keep it hush. Don't want to get folks hope up.

I don't know if you folks heard but these are the videos that were up at Nintendo.com before their conference. And the one about Thurs is the one most people are speculating about.

http://webpages.charter.net/danrarbc64/liz.wmv
http://webpages.charter.net/danrarbc64/andy.wmv
http://webpages.charter.net/danrarbc64/reggie.wmv

After watching them, I would only conclude it was a way to tell people to come back later (that day) for their e3 coverage since it was a countdown.

[fingersman]

Oh well, we'll see if this is true or not come thursday. Only one more day to go.

[GameMaster]

Well, all the E3 Insiders are buzzing about the secret Project Revolution revealing set for Thursday. All the speeches we heard on Tuesday contained hints and suggestions that people have been picking apart now and all the clues in the speeches point to something VERY BIG happening on Thursday. Gamers are NOT going to want to miss this. For now, I leave you with these hints:

Brain, Headset, Vortex

Stay tuned...

[Canyarion]

Stop acting like you know about these things. You know just as much as we do. Less, probably. :p

[Seth]

I believe him.

[BreakABone]

Poor choice of words or just confusing choice...

Word has it a secret alcove can be found deeper within the creature which houses the precious Nintendo Revolution. But gaining access to the Shangri-la of tomorrow’s video game generation is to remain an electronic dream.


http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=0075dabe-ee6f-413a-a703-f21088507225&page=newsmain

[Dyne]

Jeez. It feels like a mini-megaton.

[BlueFire]

lol.

Okay Nintendo. This is your possible chance to redeem yourself.

Now let's see...

Is this chance taken? or blown?

hah

[bobcat]

Any news yet?

[Teuthida]

Thursday hopefully.




Anyway what people fail to realize is that GameCube was revealed the E3 before it came out. Same deal now with Xbox 360. It really doesn't make too much sense to have even revealed it now seeing as there will be another E3 before it comes out. And Sony just wanted to give people a reason not to get an Xbox 360 and wait for their system.

[DeathsHand]

http://www.gamebunker.com/install/index.php?do=viewarticle&id=9

Dun dun DUNNNNNN!!!!!

Death to the rumors? Or just some guy trying to get publicity for his site? *strokes beard*

[The Germanator]

http://www.gamebunker.com/install/index.php?do=viewarticle&id=9

Dun dun DUNNNNNN!!!!!

Death to the rumors? Or just some guy trying to get publicity for his site? *strokes beard*

I don't see anything...

[GameMaster]

Me either, looks like DeathsHand was just trying to get some publicity.

Dun dun DUNNNN!

/me strokes DeathsHand's beard

Besides, E3 Insiders have already confirmed that some surprise news will be revealed tomorrow.

[Dyne]

Me either, looks like DeathsHand was just trying to get some publicity.

Dun dun DUNNNN!

* GameMaster strokes DeathsHand's beard


Hahaha. Oh Gamemaster.

I read the article. It was nothing special. I've never heard of the site either.

I don't have any hopes for "thursday."

[Teuthida]

Perrin is talking to IGN tomorrow.

Reggie to GameSpot.

[DarkMaster]

I imagine the interviews will go something like this:


"Nintendo is more concerned about the current gen of video games, and providing its fans with unique and entertaining software. You'll see more of the Revolution at SpaceWorld."

[Canyarion]

Square Enix to Join the Revolution


Square Enix Co., Ltd., a leading developer and publisher of interactive entertainment software including two of the world's most popular franchises FINAL FANTASY and DRAGON QUEST, has announced plans for the FINAL FANTASY Crystal Chronicles series to be developed for the Revolution, Nintendo's next-generation console currently in development.

The Revolution's promise of seamless interactive entertainment provided by the built in Wi-Fi system caught Square Enix's attention. The company decided to join the Revolution with FINAL FANTASY Crystal Chronicles, which was originally released on Nintendo's GameCube by Game Designers Studio, Inc, an affiliate of Square Enix.

"We would like to strongly support Nintendo's next-generation networking plans," said Yoichi Wada, president of Square Enix. "The Revolution may embody a new platform beyond a portable or console, which makes possible a new structure in the network gaming system, changing the ways communities are built and supported. This is the kind of direction we've envisioned, and we will challenge ourselves to provide immersive interactive content in response to what Nintendo offers."

More details regarding the new FINAL FANTASY Crystal Chronicles series are not yet determined and will be announced in the near future. So stay tuned...
http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?articleid=9f2afb64-b75b-48a2-a73b-f4ca8827eeed&page=currentNews
:p

[Teuthida]

Interesting. This time I may actually want to play FF:CC.

[DeathsHand]

Damnit either something was wrong in the linkage or they took the story down, basically it was the I believe editor/owner/whateverer of the site there who wrote a 'confession' that "Aries" is some kid not even out of high school yet who is a writer on their site...

But I believe had no proof...

Anyways, Thursday has begun... The end is nigh...

[Null]

I imagine the interviews will go something like this:


"Nintendo is more concerned about the current gen of video games, and providing its fans with unique and entertaining software. You'll see more of the Revolution at SpaceWorld."


well if they say that it would be really strange, considering THERE IS NO SPACE WORLD!!!!!! :mad2:


:p

[DarkMaster]

well if they say that it would be really strange, considering THERE IS NO SPACE WORLD!!!!!! :mad2:


:p
Or so you think...



MEGATON

[Null]

the megaton will be that theres a spaceworld again after 5 year absense? heheheh

then all summer long they can talk about a new megaton to be said at spaceworld. and when they get up to spaceworld they reviel the megaton!! spaceworld is canceled!

lol oh that nintendo and its megaton, always screwin with us :)

[Canyarion]

M3g4t0n was never created by Nintendo, but by a computer magazine.

[Null]

LIES! Nintendo says all your megaton are belong to us!

WHACHA GUNNA DO BROTHA!! Whatcha gunnna do when nintendo runs wild and drops the megaton, all over you!!!

[gekko]

I read the article. It was nothing special. I've never heard of the site either.

I have. The site's been around for a while, but I missed the article. What did it say?

[Blackmane]

Miyamoto interview:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617000p1.html

No Revolution, no controller, no specs, "we wanna go the road less travelled next-gen".... you get the jist of it....

[DarkMaster]

"I'd love to be able to show you the features of the Revolution controller and tell you about them. However, unfortunately if we do that too early those ideas would be stolen."

And there you have it, the thursday megaton you've all been waiting for.

[bobcat]

I don't know what to think. I guess this is a bad start to Nintendo for next gen.

I guess they are poor competitors, however I am still excited to see what they come up with.

[The Germanator]

"I'd love to be able to show you the features of the Revolution controller and tell you about them. However, unfortunately if we do that too early those ideas would be stolen."

And there you have it, the thursday megaton you've all been waiting for.

Megaton? That was more like a Megaounce.

[Perfect Stu]

MEGATON

[Dark Samurai]

You know what?

Even though Nintendo didnt really show a lot this E3, I still cant wait for the coming months. Sure all the games that that were shown weren't from the Revolution, but rather the GameCube, DS and GBA. The games that I'll be getting from Nintendo is plentiful.

So I'm satisfied with the current slue of games that are coming out for the GC, DS, and GBA...

I could go so far as to show just what games I want for everything... but I'll save that for another post. Sure I'm disappointed that Nintendo didnt show me everything about Revolution, but damnit will I be happy when they do, and I'm sure that I'll be getting those too. But just to know SOMETHING about the Revolution, and how is going to end up looking like, thrills me.

I just love how all consoles are coming out as, yes even the 360 (but I dont think I'll be getting that one though... ;)). So go ahead and bitch about how Nintendo isnt going to show more of the Revolution, I'll be right here waiting on it...

[GameMaster]

Note to members: E3 isn't over.

So why are we all leaving our 'Final Thoughts'?

Nintendo still has time to give us some special treats and maybe even some surprises.

Just got my e-mail update from E3 Insiders, look for some cool DS suprises tomorrow...

[Canyarion]

Ok now we ban him. :devil:

Heard about DSpeak? VoIP thing.

[DarkMaster]

I think the E3 insiders accidently sent me your email.



Dear GameMaster,




Shut the hell up.





-E3 Insiders

[Canyarion]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL! :D