Sony's Conference [Archive]

DarkMaster

05-16-2005, 07:09 PM

Details so far:

The first details about the PS3 have come out. Sony announced the system will be backwards compatible with the PS2 and PSOne, squelching the rumors that reported the contrary. The system will also (not surprisingly) use Sony's proprietary disc format called Blu-Ray.

NVidia is working with Sony on the "RSX Reality Synthesizer" for the PS3. It will be able to produce "movie quality" graphics at 60 FPS.

I'll edit it with more info as it becomes available. Feel free to add.

BreakABone

05-16-2005, 07:10 PM

The Ps3 specs according to GameSpot

Sony also laid out the technical specs of the device. The PlayStation 3 will feature the much-vaunted Cell processor, which will run at 3.2 Ghz and feature 2.18 teraflops of performance. It will sport 256mb XDR main RAM at 3.2 Ghz, have 256MB of GDDR VRAM at 700mhz, a detachable 2.5 inch HDD slot, six usb 2.0 ports, Memory Stick Duo, a SD slot, a compact flash memory slot, Compact flash slot, 2 hdmi outputs, 1 av multi out, 1 SPDIF optical output, and 1-gigabit Ethernet built in port

The PlayStation 3 will also sport some hefty multimedia features, such as video chat, internet access, digital photo viewing, digital audio and video. Sony Computer Entertainment head Ken Kutaragi introduced it as a "Super computer for computer entertainment."

Bond

05-16-2005, 07:12 PM

Is this conference going on right now - if so is there a direct feed anywhere?

Null

05-16-2005, 07:14 PM

it shoulda started at 6. no feeds from what i can find thus far.

Dyne

05-16-2005, 07:17 PM

So Bluray confirmed? This guarantees that it's a 2006 alongside Revolution, right.

Null

05-16-2005, 07:21 PM

http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/loos/pictures/8784671701491003.jpg

interesting.

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 07:26 PM

What do the numbers on the left axis represent?

Null

05-16-2005, 07:28 PM

hard to read. but gigaflops i would presume. thats usually how a chart goes. hehe

BreakABone

05-16-2005, 07:40 PM

And the main event.. the console...

http://www.jaygoland.com/anothercastle/ps3.jpg

http://www.jaygoland.com/anothercastle/ps3-2.jpg

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 07:45 PM

Sony loves the Spider-man font.

Dyne

05-16-2005, 07:47 PM

Wow, I don't know how to react to that.

First thoughts are: lose the curve and spiderman font.

Null

05-16-2005, 07:48 PM

lol. thats what i was thinkin. (spiderman font)

and wheres the ports hiding? flip lid on the front somewhere?

also, curve is fine, that actually gives it charcter, interesting tho how MS has the inward curve and Sony has an outward. I wonder if they'll fit into each other. lol

font will probably be changed tho i'd assume.

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 07:48 PM

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/MediaPath/2_A_0003.jpg

Dyne

05-16-2005, 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=Danchastu]http://www.scee.presscentre.com/MediaPath/2_A_0003.jpg[/QUOTE

Is that the power cable port on the bottom? It's a lot smaller than I previously thought then.

DarrenMcLeod

05-16-2005, 07:53 PM

Yeah, the font needs to go. Other than that, I think it's the 2nd best design Sony's ever had on a first attempt (this isn't as sexy as PSP).

Crashette

05-16-2005, 07:57 PM

http://img2.kult-mag.com/photos/00/00/57/09/ME0000570926_2.jpg
http://www.scee.presscentre.com/MediaPath/%C3%A9%E2%80%BA%E2%80%A0%C3%A5%C2%90%CB%863%C3%A3%C2%81%C2%A4%C3%A4%C2%B8%C2%A6%C3%A3%C2%81%C2%B3_00 03.jpg
http://www.cmd.tech.nhl.nl/users/rooij100/images/ps3/ps3.jpg

playstation 3 is a bose lifestyle system. LOL wtf!!!!!!!!

Null

05-16-2005, 07:57 PM

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614619/e3-2005-ps3-official-20050516044917981.jpg

bigger image of back.

Crashette

05-16-2005, 08:00 PM

http://www.4electronicwarehouse.com/content/bose/ls-28.jpg

http://www.cmd.tech.nhl.nl/users/rooij100/images/ps3/ps3.jpg
ha ha i'm posting on crashettes name now. HA HA HA

ripoff :rofl: :rofl:

Null

05-16-2005, 08:02 PM

?? posting in crashettes name amuses you that much?

Perfect Stu

05-16-2005, 08:12 PM

the black version is sexxxxxxxxy

*edit*

Crash, take your 6 year old child-like antics somewhere else, please

DeathsHand

05-16-2005, 08:12 PM

?? posting in crashettes name amuses you that much?

Was that really Crash, or is whatever he has contagious?

I think the design is nice... I dunno, even though it's E3 I wasn't really anticipating how the consoles would look...

It looks a lot like a curvey PS2... Same general rectangle shape, disc drive on the right...

But yeah, the font could be better...

Surprises are fun! Now for revolution...

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 08:14 PM

When I first saw it I declared it as fake...why would Sony possible use the Spider-man font...oh how wrong I was.

Null

05-16-2005, 08:14 PM

i thought it looked a lot like a sleeked up ps2 also. which isnt bad. it looks like they got a nice size to it.

i kinda think they put that font in there as a place holder, not really sure what type of logo to use. i have a feeling they'll end up with it being a little more of the blue PS2 style ontop of the ps2. (just not in blue)

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 08:17 PM

http://img104.echo.cx/img104/7731/050517i4vj.jpg

Well I wasn't expecting that.

Crash

05-16-2005, 08:18 PM

FU#$ING Boomerang!!!!!1

http://img104.echo.cx/img104/7731/050517i4vj.jpg

Null

05-16-2005, 08:19 PM

oh dan, i just had that post typed up with that pic ready to go too.

controller worries me a bit. i wasnt ready for the PS2 controller to change yet.

but then again i never liked the look of the GC controller and altho its button layout sucked, it ended up being comfortable, So hopfully that controller takes comfort over design.

Perfect Stu

05-16-2005, 08:19 PM

it looks a lot better horizontally...which is cool because that's how I've always had my PS2/PStwo

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 08:20 PM

Spider-man font. Check.
Batarang. Check.

PS3 is the ultimate superhero console.

Crash

05-16-2005, 08:21 PM

ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring banana phone!

http://www.englishelearning.com/vi/intro_english/pictures/b_picts/banana.jpg

Dyne

05-16-2005, 08:21 PM

Whoa, WHAT?

That thing looks really uncomfortable. And the design doesn't really complement the base system.

Null

05-16-2005, 08:22 PM

Spider-man font. Check.
Batarang. Check.

PS3 is the ultimate superhero console.

lol

well, seems like a couple things might end up changing from now till release.

of course we could go nintendo, "we're just showing everyone this so they dont steal our real ideas!"

im fine with things changing, i'd rather be able to see stuff, let them have feedback and change, rather then hold it all in till the last minute.

im very worried about the controller.

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 08:22 PM

ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring banana phone!

http://www.englishelearning.com/vi/intro_english/pictures/b_picts/banana.jpg

^ My hype for PS3 just went up tenfold!

Null

05-16-2005, 08:23 PM

ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring banana phone!

http://www.englishelearning.com/vi/intro_english/pictures/b_picts/banana.jpg

i'm sure you've found more then a couple uses for that banana. :p

Perfect Stu

05-16-2005, 08:23 PM

PS3 to give users superhero powers?

I'm just going to assume so...

*edit* lol Null

Perfect Stu

05-16-2005, 08:27 PM

holy mother of god...

http://members.cox.net/jtorchy/images/games/Killzone_01.jpg

http://members.cox.net/jtorchy/images/games/Killzone_02.jpg

http://members.cox.net/jtorchy/images/games/Killzone_03.jpg

http://members.cox.net/jtorchy/images/games/Warhawk_03.jpg

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 08:29 PM

Xbox 360 is slowly being erased from my memory banks.

Null

05-16-2005, 08:36 PM

Warhawk eh? that was a fun game for the original playstation. forgot all about it. heh.

BlueFire

05-16-2005, 08:38 PM

I'm not too crazy about the cotroller design, but reading this stuff has gotten me excited. :]

Dyne

05-16-2005, 08:38 PM

Now that's beautiful.

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 08:41 PM

http://members.cox.net/jtorchy/images/games/DevilMayCry01.jpg

Bond

05-16-2005, 08:47 PM

CPU

Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU

RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound

Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing)

Memory

256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

System Bandwidth

Main RAM 25.6GB/s
VRAM 22.4GB/s
RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)

System Floating Point Performance

2 TFLOPS

Storage

Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1

I/O

USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1

Communication

Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)

Controller

Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)

AV Output

Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1

Disc Media

CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE

DarrenMcLeod

05-16-2005, 08:48 PM

The graphics are gorgeous.... absolutely beautiful.

It's too bad the controller looks really awkward and uncomfortable. I can't judge until I put my hands around it, but why the hell are the prongs so long? That seems pointless...

Null

05-16-2005, 08:51 PM

if it had built in tilt, would make a good steering wheel. hehe

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 08:56 PM

http://img125.echo.cx/img125/5528/ps3bbq9xa.jpg

DarrenMcLeod

05-16-2005, 08:58 PM

LOL AT DANCHASTU! +rep to you!

Perfect Stu

05-16-2005, 09:00 PM

ok, so we've got:

-Grand Theft Auto 'next' confirmed for PS3 launch
-Metal Gear Solid 4 confirmed for PS3
-the Getaway shown
-Final Fantasy real-time demo and announcement
-Fight Night info
-PSP and PS3 connect wireless, data transfer and use of PSP as PS3 controller
-1080p HD support
-Spiderman 2 CG running real-time on PS3

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 09:01 PM

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614619/e3-2005-ps3-official-20050516053247390.jpg

DarrenMcLeod

05-16-2005, 09:07 PM

That controller still throws me off. I still can't believe that's the controller. If anyone had shown me that picture last week I would have bet a million dollars that it was fake, simply based on the controller design.

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 09:19 PM

Well does say design is subject to change without notice.

DarrenMcLeod

05-16-2005, 09:24 PM

Swan

05-16-2005, 09:24 PM

I notice that there is no memory card slots in the system, or at least none I can see. How is it supposed to be backwards compatible then?
Other then that I'm getting so excited.

Teuthida

05-16-2005, 09:24 PM

Ooh. Getting fancy now with the angles.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/img/050517f.jpg

How exactly does that lay flat when horizontal?

Dyne

05-16-2005, 09:26 PM

Ooh. Getting fancy now with the angles.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/img/050517f.jpg

How exactly does that lay flat when horizontal?

It has the bottom flat section like PS2.

DarrenMcLeod

05-16-2005, 09:35 PM

I notice that there is no memory card slots in the system, or at least none I can see. How is it supposed to be backwards compatible then?
Other then that I'm getting so excited.
Memory cards are wireless via Bluetooth.

DarkMaster

05-16-2005, 09:39 PM

Devil May Cry 4.....+1 PS3 sales

Null

05-16-2005, 09:50 PM

Yeah, I'm hoping that they shorten the prongs down. I also wonder how the shoulder buttons work, as they look awkward.

Finally, I'm hoping they put the analog pad in a better spot. Nintendo and Microsoft have it right... Analog in the prime position, not D-pad.

have to beg to differ with you on that part, sony has been the one to have it in a perfect spot. i hope thats the one thing that certainly does NOT change.

Joeiss

05-16-2005, 09:52 PM

Looking awesome. :)

I can't wait to try out that controller.. I wonder how it will feel...

Null

05-16-2005, 09:53 PM

http://lousybeatnik.com/dump/size.jpg

hrmmm.

Bond

05-16-2005, 09:57 PM

I'm not a big fan of having the on/off button on the back, but everything else looks nice.

Null

05-16-2005, 10:00 PM

thats just the main power, same as PS2. you turn it on and off from the front, but you can cut entire power, encluding the front switch off with the back switch.

Joeiss

05-16-2005, 10:01 PM

I like my system constantly on standby. :0

Perfect Stu

05-16-2005, 10:23 PM

from the video I'm watching right now, I can tell you right now that the PS3 is a LOT more powerful than anything I've seen from XBox 360 so far.

Joeiss

05-16-2005, 10:25 PM

Get on MSN and send me this damn video you are speaking of, man!

DarkMaster

05-16-2005, 10:29 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/devilmaycry4/media.html

Um....can I get a "HOLY ****"

Perfect Stu

05-16-2005, 10:34 PM

this eye toy demo I'm watching....let's just say

"you've gotta be f*cking kidding me"

this looks TOO good

*edit*

streaming video is on Gamespot Live

you need a Gamespot Complete membership I think

DarrenMcLeod

05-16-2005, 10:37 PM

the DMC4 trailer didn't blow me away, but a lot of games in that Demo mix look really awesome.

Ginkasa

05-16-2005, 10:40 PM

If its an actual live thing (as in, happening right now) you have to have a Complete membership to watch it live, but you can see "reruns" afterwards for free...

GameSpot is cool like that.

/me shrugs and walks away

Perfect Stu

05-16-2005, 10:41 PM

ok that thread Crash made in the general games forum...."next next gen"....I just saw a realtime demo that actually looked MORE impressive than those still shots

DarrenMcLeod

05-16-2005, 10:46 PM

Killzone LOOKS awesome... but some of the worst voice acting I've ever heard. Listen for the "Oh my god!" and "Son of a bitch" when the guy is on fire. It sounds really awkward. Still looks great though.

Perfect Stu

05-16-2005, 10:52 PM

lol, the Fight Night video I saw is absolutely gorgeous...when the guy gets punched, his skin ripples on his face and the light reflects accordingly.

honestly, this is nuts

you can see emotion on their faces

fury, rage, confusion, surprise...

DarkMaster

05-16-2005, 10:55 PM

HOLY ****IN SHIZAT

Sony has some absolutely AMAZING screens of PS3 games on their PR site. Dear god I wish I could post these.

...HOT ****IN DAMN

MGS4

Perfect Stu

05-16-2005, 10:58 PM

DM, try to compare these shots to everything you've seen from XB360

if I had to make a comparison right now, the PS3 looks at LEAST 1.5 times as powerful as the XBox 360. I just cant believe my eyes...

HOLY F*CK I JUST SAW THE END OF YOUR POST

I knew it...

Null

05-16-2005, 11:03 PM

What site are the other pics on?

GameMaster

05-17-2005, 12:05 AM

http://home.comcast.net/~synthoid/banana.png

The console looks good.

Dark Samurai

05-17-2005, 12:14 AM

:rofl: !!!

OMG!!! is that funny...

Anyway, the console looks like holy mack!

but alas the controller looks like the moon in Lucky Charms... with the color too!

Acebot44

05-17-2005, 12:23 AM

The Graphics are amazing
The console is awkward
The controller is amusing

DarrenMcLeod

05-17-2005, 12:44 AM

The Graphics are amazing
The console is awkward
The controller is amusing
The three A's. Good ol' Sony.

RagedHybrid

05-17-2005, 01:05 AM

i just saw the video of thesony press confrence off of gamespot and wow. AN HOUR AND 50 MINUTES TO SEE THE THING AT THE END FOR LESS THAT TWO MINUTES, ok got that out of my system. And actually looking at the system from a real view and not a digital pic like i saw before. i now can saw the console looks hottttttttt. GJ Sony.

MuGen

05-17-2005, 01:18 AM

I just want to make it very clear and transparent that PS3 has totally own3d XBOX 360. The screens and demos I saw in the Sony Press Conference were absolutely vivid and outstanding.

You know... The guy who was demonstrating Fight Night was holding a wireless controller that resembled a PS2 controller with regular prongs. At the end of the 1:50:17 when they showed the PS3 console, they didn't show the controller, so you know that design is either a filler or a concept.

Seeing Xbox 360: ]]]]]]]]
Seeing PS3's Power: ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

No one can honestly disagree with me when I say the the graphical push the PS3 offers (a lot of the demos and footage were in-game play being played on the PS3 behind the box on the podium) CLEARLY AND WITHOUT A DOUBT is A LOT more powerful then the Xbox 360.

Teuthida

05-17-2005, 02:04 AM

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050517/sce101.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050517/sce102.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050517/sce103.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050517/sce104.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050517/sce105.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050517/sce106.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050517/sce107.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050517/sce108.jpg

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050517/sce109.jpg

GameMaster

05-17-2005, 02:07 AM

OMG, it is so shiny! It's like a new car! This machine is unstoppable!

bobcat

05-17-2005, 05:47 AM

It's a round PS2!!!!!

But looks nice.

Round Ps2!!!

Null

05-17-2005, 10:02 AM

So what are the differences besides wireless between the PS2 and PS3 controllers? Couldnt someone just plug in thier PS2 controller and use that instead? (of course maybe its really comfortable and people wouldnt want to, gotta say it doesnt look as bad as when i first saw it now)

Canyarion

05-17-2005, 11:36 AM

I think most of the graphics has to do with programming. It's not really the looks, but more what happens on screen. I think......

Null

05-17-2005, 02:21 PM

So it appears the real REVOLUTION of next gen is indeed SONY's controller.

As someone in another forum said, When you get mad in a game and throw it, it will come back to you. :)

all joking aside, its ALMOST starting to grow on me now, kinda like the Gamecube controller did.

MuGen

05-17-2005, 02:34 PM

Yeah, I thought it was garbage when I first saw it. But I stopped looking at it at face value and started to imagine myself holding it.

It seems it would be very comfortable with long prongs..... Everything is a nice size they just elongated the prongs...

Does anyone see similarities...?

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614619/e3-2005-ps3-official-20050516052424806.jpg
http://www.estarland.com/images/products/1/14501/22635.jpg

The long prongs have proven to work well with holding the controller with stability.... Whose complaining now...

Null

05-17-2005, 02:37 PM

MuGen

05-17-2005, 02:46 PM

well if it does one thing it'll stop people from saying they cant get to the left joystick with thier thumb. longer handle means you could grip it a bit lower which would effectivly move the left joy stick higher up.

As with any controller tho, looks aside, you never know untill you actually hold one.

Listen... the long prongs on the N64 proved to be beneficial for holding the controller with comfort and stability.

Now with the longer prongs it just enables that same aspect. The buttons, analog, shoulders, and D-pad are all in SIMILAR positions to the old PS2 controller.... just longer prongs to provide more grip then slip..

Remember also, their may be a REASON aside from Grip for the long prongs... perhaps a pressure sensitive grip for racing games... Squeeze on the right prong for an action and squeeze on left for another action... Maybe something for Fight Night PS3?

Null

05-17-2005, 02:55 PM

ARG!!! this is driving me nuts, i been looking for a while now, Will someone PLEASE find me a picture of the PS3 with its front panel (that slope down on the left of the cd tray) open and showing all the ports and plugs inside.

i saw the picture last night, it has a couple memory stick slots, and some other plugs, but now for the life of me i cant find where i saw that picture at....

gekko

05-18-2005, 11:42 PM

bobcat

05-18-2005, 11:50 PM

My long biased rants will come next week, when I get the net hooked up in my room.

But let me just say, every time I've complained about Sony's controller design, I take it back. Aside from the fact that it's incredibly dated, at least it was confortable. This is well... humorous at best. Sony should've just added USB support for PC controllers and not included one :D

The console is umm... nice... but... ugly. Glad to see someone using Bluetooth (1.1 or 2?), and it's nice to see 1080p and HDMI output. Bravo. If only they could make a game that I cared about, and could sell this thing for a reasonable price. Sure it's going to sell for under $500. $499.99+tax!

Still haven't seen a picture of a game, just heard some announced titles that put me to sleep. They'll sell, but they're just not for me. But please tell me that they gave real-time in-game shots, and not the stupid BS renders that they wowed us with to prove how superior it was to DC.

3 consoles shown, none have "wowed" me.

Have you seen the war video thingo on PS3?

That wowed me. Is that really in game graphics??? Even though it looks like it is from a gameplayers perspective,who's to say somebody didn't computer generate some or all of it? I'm confused :confused:

Also where are the gamelists? I haven't seen ANY games yet that have stood out and grabbed me by the nutz.

gekko

05-19-2005, 12:09 AM

No. Got internet being installed on Tuesday. For now, I'm on a relatively slow, and very expensive public computer. So no big downloads until Tuesday. Then I have to sort through this mess of 80 posts per console.

Perfect Stu

05-19-2005, 01:07 AM

The only games known for PS3 release are:

Killzone 2
I-8
Gran Turismo 5
Motor Storm
Heavenly Sword
Metal Gear Solid 4
Grand Theft Auto next
Final Fantasy next
Rockstar western (Red Dead Revolver 2?)
Fight Night round 3
Formula 1
Devil May Cry 4
Mobile Suit Gundam
Tekken
Ni-Oh
EyeDentify
Warhawk
Killing Day

but it's not set to release for another 10-11 months, so you cant expect a very large game list. how large was the XBox 360's game list 5-6 months ago?

MuGen

05-19-2005, 01:36 AM

My long biased rants will come next week, when I get the net hooked up in my room.

But let me just say, every time I've complained about Sony's controller design, I take it back. Aside from the fact that it's incredibly dated, at least it was confortable. This is well... humorous at best. Sony should've just added USB support for PC controllers and not included one :D

The console is umm... nice... but... ugly. Glad to see someone using Bluetooth (1.1 or 2?), and it's nice to see 1080p and HDMI output. Bravo. If only they could make a game that I cared about, and could sell this thing for a reasonable price. Sure it's going to sell for under $500. $499.99+tax!

Still haven't seen a picture of a game, just heard some announced titles that put me to sleep. They'll sell, but they're just not for me. But please tell me that they gave real-time in-game shots, and not the stupid BS renders that they wowed us with to prove how superior it was to DC.

3 consoles shown, none have "wowed" me.

I hope you've seen the game play footage being run on unfinished PS3 hardware.... those graphics will wow you.... even if the game isn't your type.

Bluetooth 2.0 EDR (Sony and Ericsson invented Bluetooth... what do you expect?)

Now about the price... let's check out some marketing patterns

Newspapers speculate an up to $700 price tag for the Playstation 2.
Sony launches PS2 in Japan for $379.00
Sony launches PS2 in US for $299.00
Newspapers speculate a $465 price tag for the Playstation 3.
Sony will probably launch in it Japan for $399
And end up launching in the U.S. at $350.00

Sony will keep their price at a competitive price point to keep people interested instead of making them go to Xbox 360.

Everyone knows PS3 looks way more powerful, so $350 would be a justified price point, for the extra horsepower in it....

But if it matches the X1.5 at $299.... EVEN BETTER... I'm not stopping them from doing it....

bobcat

05-19-2005, 07:10 AM

I hope you've seen the game play footage being run on unfinished PS3 hardware.... those graphics will wow you.... even if the game isn't your type.

If you're talking about Killzone then I hate to be the one to spoil your fun.............

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614924p1.html

I think it's not realtime, it just looks too ............. polished to be real time. I mean the way everything happens, it just doesn't seem believeable. However I could be wrong.

We're inclined to mistrust Killzone 2's gameplay legitimacy even further because of the way the video plays out. No shooter in existence features characters that do exactly the right thing at exactly the right time all the time. It seems as if the entire Killzone 2 showing was like a wish that did not waver, not even once. Then there's the way the control seems suspiciously fast to be done on analog sticks. The circumstantial evidence is just too much to ignore, you know?

All that being said, I cannot in good faith tout Killzone 2 as the best looking game ever because I really don't think it's a real game yet. But it sure is one hell of a CG sequence that, if in anyway happens to be representative of the final product, shows us what next-generation shooting should be like.

gekko

05-19-2005, 04:14 PM

Bluetooth 2.0 EDR (Sony and Ericsson invented Bluetooth... what do you expect?)

Who's complaining? Bluetooth is one of the greatest technologies out there. 2.0 is even better, saves on battery life since it transfers more information per second, therefore its not transmitting as often.

But also on the price point, Blu-Ray is expensive, and the price isn't going to go down since its now pretty much became a proprietary format. Where Microsoft and Nintendo are banking on cheap lasers and cheap discs. Allows for a cheaper console, as well as lower game production costs, which is crucial for those smaller developers Sony has been known for having. But it has its benefits.

I just don't see Sony selling this at a reasonable pricepoint, and after seeing PSP go for $250 in America, I'm not feeling confident that they will get it lower than $399.

Canyarion

05-19-2005, 04:52 PM

after seeing PSP go for $250 in America, Value Pack, VALUE PACK before they kill you!

Crash

05-19-2005, 07:28 PM

:rofl:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/MattXG/ps3.jpg

Teuthida

05-19-2005, 08:02 PM

:D

sig

MuGen

05-19-2005, 08:26 PM

uhmm.... wow....... the PS3 isn't that big.... it's as big as the 50000 series PS2....

bobcat

05-19-2005, 08:38 PM

:rofl:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/MattXG/ps3.jpg
lol

Bond

05-19-2005, 09:51 PM

uhmm.... wow....... the PS3 isn't that big.... it's as big as the 50000 series PS2....
You actually changed your username to the name of a corporation? Wow, that's extreme... maybe I was wrong about this whole supporting capitalism thing.

Null

05-19-2005, 11:22 PM

uhmm.... wow....... the PS3 isn't that big.... it's as big as the 50000 series PS2....

lol. well the highly awaited Megaton announcment has left some people a bit grumpy.

Teuthida

05-19-2005, 11:55 PM

That truly scares me...changing your name to Sony...not even PlayStation but Sony. When I get enough dlbns gonna change my name to General Motors...no...Coca-Cola...no...Square-Enix...no...Anheuser-Busch... which billion-dollar company should I sell my soul to?

DarrenMcLeod

05-19-2005, 11:58 PM

That photoshop is extremely good though... the expression on his face and his arm locations... makes it look like he's actually lifting a huge load.

GameMaster

05-20-2005, 01:41 AM

I knew there was something wrong with that picture, laugh out loud.

Now, let's poke some fun at Xbox and Nintendo's new consoles!

MuGen

05-20-2005, 01:46 AM

Changing my name to Sony is a joke that obviously none of your feeble minds can comprehend. I am only understood by those... who can take a joke....

EDIT: I don't know what's funnier... a simple name change or having Reggie dancing like an ass in ur signature..... I dunno.....

Teuthida

05-20-2005, 01:47 AM

I forgot that no one ever gets your "jokes."

GameMaster

05-20-2005, 01:48 AM

MuGen

05-20-2005, 01:54 AM

I admire your loyalty and dedication to spreading the good name that is Sony.

I'd pull a stunt like that too but I've put way too much time into promoting the GM character, there's no turning back.

That's what secret accounts are for...right Danchastu!

Aye... I respect you GM... You understand my will and intentions...You will go down in my books as "The One... but not named Neo"

:p

Crash

05-20-2005, 12:14 PM

dancing reggie rox!!!!!!!! darren is the man

Teuthida

05-20-2005, 07:27 PM

I admire your loyalty and dedication to spreading the good name that is Sony.

I'd pull a stunt like that too but I've put way too much time into promoting the GM character, there's no turning back.

That's what secret accounts are for...right Danchastu!

Secret accounts? Me? Nah, I wouldn't know anything about secret accounts... :sneaky:

As for Kyuzo. I could see if it was a joke chaning your name to "Nintendo" or "Microsoft" or "Phony" or something you're not diehard about. It wouldn't be a joke if I changed my name to "Nintendo" because I like Nintendo games. Now I changed it to the name of some Final Fantasy character and then acted all dumb and whatnot... Bill Gates isn't gonna wear an Xbox shirt and be like "Hey. Hey guys. Look how funny I am. I'm wearing a shirt with a game console my company makes. Oh I slay myself." If he wore a Mac shirt...that would be something else.

Bond

05-20-2005, 07:31 PM

Secret accounts? Me? Nah, I wouldn't know anything about secret accounts... :sneaky:
Don't worry, I know about them.

Back to the original subject... I really enjoyed the Sony press conference overall, but I thought the lighting was rather lackluster compared to the Microsoft press conference.

MuGen

05-20-2005, 07:36 PM

As for Kyuzo. I could see if it was a joke chaning your name to "Nintendo" or "Microsoft" or "Phony" or something you're not diehard about. It wouldn't be a joke if I changed my name to "Nintendo" because I like Nintendo games. Now I changed it to the name of some Final Fantasy character and then acted all dumb and whatnot... Bill Gates isn't gonna wear an Xbox shirt and be like "Hey. Hey guys. Look how funny I am. I'm wearing a shirt with a game console my company makes. Oh I slay myself." If he wore a Mac shirt...that would be something else.

I wish you would stop analyzing so much, and take it at face value.... It's not like I'm parading around my neighborhood with picket signs and banners saying "All Hail Sony."

I mean... you just wrote a whole paragraph... because I claimed changing my name a joke... you realize that?