IGN on the PS2

[Crash]

The hype for PlayStation 3 is already there. Talk to any developer and you'll get a range of comments, from "the system eclipses Xenon" to "it's three and a half times more powerful." Publishers are on board in a big way. Everyone is making Xenon and PS3 games. And Sony's brand name has never been better.

Matt Casamassina, Editor-in-Chief, IGN Cube
There's no need for Sony to rush PlayStation 3 to market. PlayStation 2 is continuing to sell. PlayStation 2 software is continuing to sell. Games like Grand Theft Auto San Andreas remain unstoppable. The company can afford to take its time.

Microsoft will of course launch the successor to Xbox later this year. Sony in turn will likely launch a campaign to subdue sales. It'll push its PSP handheld against Microsoft's new console. And it might just offer a hint of things to come: some well-placed teaser ads for PS3 that promise bigger, better things than Microsoft may have planned for Xenon.

Nintendo is a non-factor. The company doesn't so much compete as it exists.


ps3 3.5 times more powerful than xbox2... that means ps3 might be running 32ghz for main processors... powered by nuclear cold fusion and coming in at $100,000 per console

I can't wait until E3 to see what happens

XBox=fuct and Nintendo=mystery is that right IGN?

[MuGen]

According to Nintendo, Sony is their biggest competition....
For Microsoft, JAPAN is their biggest competition.... lol
For Sony, Microsoft is their biggest competition... I dunno why...

But you pretty much said it,

Xbox = fuct
Nintendo = dunno yet... as is the case with many issues this year.

[Null]

ps3 3.5 times more powerful than xbox2... that means ps2 might be running 32ghz for main processors... powered by nuclear cold fusion and coming in at $100,000 per console

I can't wait until E3 to see what happens

XBox=fuct and Nintendo=mystery is that right IGN?


*checks inside his ps2* hmm. doesnt appear to be any of that in there. :p


while i dont think anyone believes that ps3 will be 3.5 times more powerful, it doesnt need to be exactly 3 times the power in every chip/part in it to accomplish that. as i've said before, the power of the console comes from how EVERY part works together. not by whats written on the processor speed or graphics card and things like that.

but obviously, its not going to be 3.5 times as powerful. 1.5 could be a more realistic number. if it is indeed more powerful.

[Crash]

very funny.......

[MuGen]

I think it's safe to say the PS3 will be more powerful. Just no telling how much more....

Considering the new Cell chip will enable so much more for the PS3 other than clock speeds and processing power. Cell chip spreadsheets indicate that it will enable the elimination of load times and frame skips.

Microsoft has nothing but more software and an earlier release on their hands. I knew from the start that Microsoft would have trouble staying in the console business, considering they aren't a hardware company.

[Blackmane]

I love how IGN pulls a number like 3.5 out of their ass and then says that the PS3 is definetely this much stronger than the competition. That is bologna.

Now, I still believe PS3 is stronger, but come on. Even after all the consoles have been seen, we still can't put some sort of number ratio as to which is more powerful. It all depends on the developer and how they can implement the hardware to their use.

[MuGen]

Well it's obvious the ps3 will be more powerful, like I said, it's too early to tell just how much more powerful it will be.

but seeing their development kits and how they will be utilizing the C/C++ XML languages, it'll be a breeze for third party developers to make some sick games on it. Considering I know a little C++ and it's not that hard of a language.

We will have to see at E3. But IMO, it's inevitable that Microsoft fall in the console business. Only because Nintendo and Sony have ground in both Japan and NA, whilst Microsoft is dependent on NA, and have absolutely almost no ground in Japan.

E3 will be the awakening of many epiphanies.

[Null]

I love how IGN pulls a number like 3.5 out of their ass and then says that the PS3 is definetely this much stronger than the competition. That is bologna.

Now, I still believe PS3 is stronger, but come on. Even after all the consoles have been seen, we still can't put some sort of number ratio as to which is more powerful. It all depends on the developer and how they can implement the hardware to their use.


people take things too seriously and read too much into them. they're exagerating to make a point. they dont literally mean its 3.5 times whatever power xbox2 has.

how many times do you see someone say woah, that is like 10 times better then cheese! (or whatever). do you take out a calculator and multiply cheese by 10?

its there to get thier point across. they believe it is much more powerful.

[MuGen]

thats what I was going to say...well not really. Although you would think since I'm living in Null's Imagination that I would say that.

[Blackmane]

people take things too seriously and read too much into them. they're exagerating to make a point. they dont literally mean its 3.5 times whatever power xbox2 has.

how many times do you see someone say woah, that is like 10 times better then cheese! (or whatever). do you take out a calculator and multiply cheese by 10?

its there to get thier point across. they believe it is much more powerful.

Cheese is a little different than computer performance, which is much more measurable.

That is my point though. I would have been happier with 10 times more powerful, because most everyone accepts that as an exxageration. 3.5 times though, is like they serioulsy want people to believe that that is the ratio of difference. Such a random number doesn't seem like an exxageration, more like a calculation. They could have said twice as powerful, or even thrice as powerful, but they didn't.

We educated people know that its bogus, but the, er... not-so-educated will be like, "Well, its 'this much' more powerful." There is no way to know that. I guess I just don't have that much respect for IGN.

[MuGen]

3.5 times more powerful.... the PS3 will be...

although a random number, sounds exaggerated still.

[Joeiss]

"Publishers are on board in a big way. Everyone is making Xenon and PS3 games. And Sony's brand name has never been better. "

I think this is the quote everybody should be talking about. As long as PS3 is getting more of the old classics, and new innovative games, then the system should be awesome!

[Stonecutter]

But you pretty much said it,

Xbox = fuct
Nintendo = dunno yet... as is the case with many issues this year.


Um, no.


Reading is a skill.


He is being facetious. That's what IGN is implying, and he's calling them out for printing utter bull****, which is about all IGN is good for.

[Stonecutter]

"Publishers are on board in a big way. Everyone is making Xenon and PS3 games. And Sony's brand name has never been better. "




LOL


Morons.

Sony's brand name has been a LOT better in the past. They're getting crushed by Samsung on the TV end, and Apple on the Music end. How many people do you see with the new MP3 walkmens? I don't mind so much when people on the forums make grand sweeping statements that aren't factually accurate, but for IGN to do it is really irresponsible, at least if they want to be considered journalists.

[Solid Snake]

"Publishers are on board in a big way. Everyone is making Xenon and PS3 games. And Sony's brand name has never been better. "

I think this is the quote everybody should be talking about. As long as PS3 is getting more of the old classics, and new innovative games, then the system should be awesome!

I agree, I'm not going to buy a PS3 until they come out with something like the next Metal Gear Solid game. The same goes with Microsoft, I would buy at launch if the next Perfect Dark was available.

[TheGame]

Wow... I didn't think I'd be at the forums long enough to sit through a second hype fest for next gen consoles :p

Anyway, I think Nintendo is doomed, I have no reason to buy their next gen console, and no reason to believe its gonna be any good. GCN was a big enough let down. MS vs Sony will be an interesting one to watch. I'm looking forward to Perfect Dark, Halo, and new GTA games... In this Gen, a picture can only get so clear, if Ps3 is more powerful its not likely that it will stand out that much. Maybe more things on the screen moving and blowing up at once, but animation and picture quality just can't be THAT much different (I'd have to see it to believe it)

[Joeiss]

LOL


Morons.

Sony's brand name has been a LOT better in the past. They're getting crushed by Samsung on the TV end, and Apple on the Music end. How many people do you see with the new MP3 walkmens? I don't mind so much when people on the forums make grand sweeping statements that aren't factually accurate, but for IGN to do it is really irresponsible, at least if they want to be considered journalists.

I figured they were just talking about the Playstation brand...

[Teuthida]

I'm really tore between Revolution and PS3. I couldn't really care for which console is more powerful. Next gen you probably won't even be able to tell much difference. Kinda regretted not getting a PS2 this gen because I missed out on quirky games such as Katamari Damacy. Sony will definitely have the most backing and thus the most games...as of now...who knows how things may change. Just hope it's better constructed than PS2. But if 50 Cent: Bulletproof is where games are headed, I'm sticking with Nintendo. Also matters where PSO: Universe goes. :)

And yes, Samsung is kicking Sony's ass.

[Stray_Bullet]

Wow... I didn't think I'd be at the forums long enough to sit through a second hype fest for next gen consoles :p

Yooooou.

By the way, this is Rndm.

P.S. HOLY! I can't believe you actually went all the way to lvl 75

[Neo]

Considering Sony's massive debt is it conceivable they might exit the console business after PS3? I would think the software sales would generate profits for them but what do I know, I'm not even supposed to BE here today...


I don't think the GCN was a let down. In fact, I'm lovin my cube right now. Resident Evil, Mario Tennis, Donkey Konga, monkey ball, rogue squadron, pikmin, so many other great games. That being said I still think next generation will turn out much like this one. There will still exist a large gap between Sony and Microsoft - Nintendo. Xenon will sell well but it won't be a mega-hit due to the initial lack of Halo 3. Depending on Nintendo's ability to corral developers it's possible Revolution could sell better than Xenon seeing as how GCN and Xbox sales are so close as it is.

[Stonecutter]

I figured they were just talking about the Playstation brand...


I suppose they could have been, but I don't read it that way.

[Null]

Anyway, I think Nintendo is doomed, I have no reason to buy their next gen console, and no reason to believe its gonna be any good. GCN was a big enough let down. MS vs Sony will be an interesting one to watch. I'm looking forward to Perfect Dark, Halo, and new GTA games... In this Gen, a picture can only get so clear, if Ps3 is more powerful its not likely that it will stand out that much. Maybe more things on the screen moving and blowing up at once, but animation and picture quality just can't be THAT much different (I'd have to see it to believe it)

I agree, GC was a pretty big let down. i've prolly used it the least of any console i've ever owned. I love my zelda games, but honestly i wish i never got the GC.

and there will still be room for improvment next gen, im not saying that PS3 and XB2 will look that different, but depending on how much more powerful one is over the other, you can indeed start seeing a difference, perhaps not with one model compared to another. but when you facter in the whole game, start using what PC games are doing, all the crazy lighting effects, shadows, interactive obvjects, phishics, textures that appear more 3d and change depending on the angle your looking at them.

Improving on sharpness or clearity is one thing, theres only so far normal TV's can go, however improving on the games look theres still much that can be done, theres a lot to be said with how much detail a consoles power will allow them to put in a game.


All that said tho, i honestly dont think theres going to be that big of difference in the ps3 vs xb2 power.

[Canyarion]

But if 50 Cent: Bulletproof is where games are headed, I'm sticking with Nintendo.
What is this? :confused:

[MuGen]

I think Nintendo seeing Sony as their biggest competitor may drive Nintendo to do better things this next-gen. But all in all, I think Nintendo should be worried first about out selling Xbox 2, considering sales were close this generation between the two.

I think Nintendo should focus on Xbox2, Xbox2 should focus on PS3, and PS3 should worry about both of them. Nintendo used to be on top in the console industry (still are in Handheld) but they are at the bottom ladder now, as sales proved even Xbox beat the GCN this generation in sales.

We'll see how things turn out in E3.

[Dark Samurai]

Hey... what happened to the Phantom and the ApeXtreme anyway?

Remember those?

[MuGen]

they went a missing...

[Blackmane]

i.e. They sucked.

Anyways, my feelings as always is that we won't know enough about each console until this E3, so once that is over with, that is when I am deciding on my console of choice.

If Nintendo fails to deliver anything, then bully to them.

[TheGame]

Yooooou.

By the way, this is Rndm.

P.S. HOLY! I can't believe you actually went all the way to lvl 75

Yeah, me and Omi play... well... a lot. :P I'm working on getting RNG up now, and its going more than twice as fast seeing that my gil stays in the millions, and there isn't realy any quests to slow down for. :cool:

I agree, GC was a pretty big let down. i've prolly used it the least of any console i've ever owned. I love my zelda games, but honestly i wish i never got the GC.

Sadly, but honestly, this is how a lot of my friends feel about having a cube. They regret buying it... I don't know, but I think GCN was Nintendo's last stand as far as hype goes. Now they are going to have to put more BIG games out that push systems. I loved MGS:TS and Zelda... and a lot of other games on GCN, but nothing I coldn't have lived without.

No matter what I see on the Next Nintendo system, unless its dirt cheap I'll be waiting a year or two into the gen before deciding if I want one or not.

[MuGen]

I would imagine, since a lot of the releases are occuring for Xbox and PS2 at this point. I went on GameSpot and the new releases for GC didn't match up to that of Xbox and PS2 releases.

As for Nintendo keeping everyone in a well lit room about the Revolution, but not turning on the lights completely, the Revolution better be as good as they are leading on, considering the secrecy they are in about it.

[Teuthida]

What is this? :confused:

http://home.comcast.net/~kirbycube/ign/pistol50.gif

The trailer (http://media.gameinformer.com/downloads/downloads2014/movies/50cent/50cent.mpg) made me wanna puke. Sure the FMV is purdy but it looks like another GTA clone but starring a real life person. He's in there killing bald fat white guys left and right saying things like "whats mines is mines, whats yours is mines, this whole city is mines." The grammer had my ears bleeding. In real life he has to have bodyguards follow him around for safety. Guess he needed a game to further increase his image. And about being shot 9 times. That's nothing to be proud of...his defensive skills must suck. *phew* I feel better.

[Stonecutter]

Yooooou.

By the way, this is Rndm.

P.S. HOLY! I can't believe you actually went all the way to lvl 75
Holy ****!

How the hell have you been man?