View Full Version : X-Box sales in Europe!!
Angrist
03-14-2002, 02:49 PM
It appears that things are not going very well with the Xbox. Official reports have come in that huge retailers are already dropping the Xbox price because the console does not sell. MediaMarkt is one of the huge retailers dropping their price. They dropped their xbox price from 479 euro to 399 euro. Is is being said that because of the lack in pre-orders they are trying to clear their stock.
The most interesting thing is, that small retailers have already
announced to completly stop selling the xbox....
I know that we sometimes seem fierce against the Xbox, but even we didn't wish that the xbox would sell so bad. Cube-Europe.com (http://www.cube-europe.com/fullnews.cgi?newsid1016124302,43386,)
And look here, they posted my comment! http://www.cube-europe.com/fullnews.cgi?newsid1016120782,77104, scroll down and you'll see me (Angrist, AKA Stephan Moed) :D
BigJustinW
03-14-2002, 05:58 PM
do you have an Xbox site that can support this?
Perfect Stu
03-14-2002, 07:21 PM
did anyone expect the XBox to do well in Europe? Or Japan for that matter?
No...
so this topic is fairly pointless
BreakABone
03-14-2002, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Perfect Stu
did anyone expect the XBox to do well in Europe? Or Japan for that matter?
No...
so this topic is fairly pointless
I actually expected the X-Box to do well in Europe.
Japan I had my doubts about but the European market was always simailr to the US IMO.. but I guess it ain't
Joeiss
03-14-2002, 07:58 PM
Wow, this isn't good news. But then again, it is a Nintendo site which is spreading the ill news, so there is obviously a HUGE bias there.
fingersman
03-14-2002, 09:58 PM
well i thought the x-box would sell in europe...I'll wait till another site has it..like IGN or PGC. :D
Xantar
03-14-2002, 11:55 PM
I'm going to wait for IGN and GameSpot to confirm this, but in the past, I haven't had complaints against Cube Europe. Well, except for their pop-up ads.
Anyways, it sounds like the price of the Xbox is the deciding factor here. Or am I wrong? Are the British really that fanatical about Nintendo?
*writes down Angrist's real name before he forgets*
And by the way, I like this comment the best:
I do have a story to tell. I live in a place called wagga wagga in Australia, the xbox did launch here today.
That's weird. I've never heard of a place called "wagga wagga" in Australia. Do any Australians here know what he's talking about? Or is it that he's making some things up...
Angrist
03-15-2002, 05:21 AM
It was in the Dutch paper this morning. http://www.telegraaf.nl/digilink/teksten/digi.box.xbox.spelcomputer.introductie.html You can't read it because it's Dutch, but it basicly says that not much were sold the first day.
And Xantar, my real name is Stephan Moed.
Joeiss
03-15-2002, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Angrist
It was in the Dutch paper this morning. http://www.telegraaf.nl/digilink/teksten/digi.box.xbox.spelcomputer.introductie.html You can't read it because it's Dutch, but it basicly says that not much were sold the first day.
Pft, Dutch is probably just like English. So I can read it.
*attempts to read article*
Hmm... Looks like French to me. :hmm:
Please, consider the source. Cube-Europe? I do believe biased comes to mind.
Also keep in mind the Xbox was launched just a few days ago. Official numbers have not even been released, and the actual consoles that were released aren’t even known. At least wait for an independent source to confirm this.
And notice how they use words such as 'low' and 'lack'. They use that because they have no specific information.
How lame is this console war getting? I mean Cube-Europe should report about GameCube news (hence the title) not take cheap shots not even independently confirmed by any source. Maybe they are doing this because they have no better news to report, that's just lame.
Until this is confirmed by an independent source, I would disgrade this. Pointless topic.
Angrist
03-16-2002, 07:29 AM
Read my other post. It's at least confirmed by Dutch newspapers.
The thing just doesn't sell, easy as that.
Oh yeah, a friend's friend bought one, but he also found scratches on his discs to he got his money back and bought a PS2. (not confirmed though, not sure if I can trust the guy)
Originally posted by Angrist
Read my other post. It's at least confirmed by Dutch newspapers.
The thing just doesn't sell, easy as that.
I agree man! Thanks for the Dutch newspaper article. I'm sure now under 1% of the forum believes what you have to say because they can read Dutch.
Originally posted by Angrist
Oh yeah, a friend's friend bought one, but he also found scratches on his discs to he got his money back and bought a PS2. (not confirmed though, not sure if I can trust the guy)
If you can't confirm it and don't even trust the guy then what is the point of even posting it? Just typing false information.
Shadow_Link
03-16-2002, 07:47 PM
Bond, if you have been around as long as I have, then you would know that Angrist isn't one to lie.
The Xbox is doing pretty good around Britain, but inner Europe is another story.
Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Bond, if you have been around as long as I have, then you would know that Angrist isn't one to lie.
The Xbox is doing pretty good around Britain, but inner Europe is another story.
May I bring up this article. That is actually in English:
http://www.mad.co.uk/story/breaking.asp?id=OC200203150009
Xbox tops PS2 sales in first night
By Deborah Bonello
"The launch of Microsoft's much-hyped video games console Xbox got off to a strong start yesterday when the entertainment system went on sale at retailers throughout the UK and outran Sony Playstation 2's firstly monthly sales in one night.
According to figures from the high street retailer Virgin Megastore, it sold more Xbox consoles in Glasgow during the first night of sales than its rival PS2 did in its first month, despite the retailing price of the Xbox being £100 higher at £300.
HMV also said that sales of Xbox on its launch day were "certainly meeting expectations, and we are on target to sell as planned."
Virgin said that demand for the Xbox was so high that stores opened at midnight in London, Glasgow, Dublin, Manchester and Birmingham yesterday to serve people who had been queuing outside the stores hours before opening time.
Virgin sold over 100 Xbox consoles at each of its locations on Xbox's launch night, and its store in Oxford Street sold 250 during the launch night and a further 70 before lunchtime that day.
The launch of Xbox has been heavily marketed by Microsoft, which kicked off a TV ad campaign last week through BBH. An online viral marketing campaign for the system has been running for several weeks.
Microsoft has come under fire for some of its marketing initiatives. The computer giant has been accused of giving preference to its own in-house computer games and software above those of its competitors.
Playstation 2 is expected to present Xbox with stiff competition, and Microsoft has received a number of complaints following the launch of Xbox in Japan in November that the console scratches DVDs and CDs."
Ridley
03-16-2002, 10:03 PM
*smacks Bond*
That's only about the UK, Angrist and everyone else were referring to Europe as a whole, not just the UK ;).
nWoCHRISnWo
03-16-2002, 10:06 PM
Bond, you're acting like what you told other people to stop acting like in the other post. Apparently nobody can like the sites that give Nintendo games good reviews or they're biased idiots, yet you believe the site that has good news on X-Box and not the two sources that say otherwise. :rolleyes:
Perfect Stu
03-16-2002, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
Bond, you're acting like what you told other people to stop acting like in the other post. Apparently nobody can like the sites that give Nintendo games good reviews or they're biased idiots, yet you believe the site that has good news on X-Box and not the two sources that say otherwise. :rolleyes:
dear god...I agree with him
Originally posted by Ridley
*smacks Bond*
That's only about the UK, Angrist and everyone else were referring to Europe as a whole, not just the UK ;).
I realize that Ridley. But that article was so far the only article in English I have been able to find about the Xbox launch in Europe.
Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
Bond, you're acting like what you told other people to stop acting like in the other post. Apparently nobody can like the sites that give Nintendo games good reviews or they're biased idiots, yet you believe the site that has good news on X-Box and not the two sources that say otherwise. :rolleyes
If the site Angrist suggested was actually in English, I may believe it. Also may I add this is an Xbox article from a GameCube website. It's obviously going to be biased.
Mad.co.uk is as far as I know is an unbiased website and does not relate to only one console.
I don't care if people complain about a website that only covers one console and gives those games very high or low scores. It's quite obvious that website only dedicated to one console is going to be biased.
But when people go around saying EGM gives out bad scores to Nintendo the one issue Nintendo videogames did not get so great scores, and then go back and say EGM is great because Nintendo videogames got great scores that month is idiotic.
I am offering different views from different websites. And that is really what this website needs. Because normally all you get is opinions from one side on many videogame matters.
Xantar
03-16-2002, 11:24 PM
Geez, you guys. Why are you getting so worked up? Can't we wait for some official numbers from some official group that has access to some official data or something official like that? It's not like waiting a week or two before making your decision is going to kill you.
Perfect Stu
03-16-2002, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Bond
If the site Angrist suggested was actually in English, I may believe it. Also may I add this is an Xbox article from a GameCube website. It's obviously going to be biased.
Mad.co.uk is as far as I know is an unbiased website and does not relate to only one console.
I don't care if people complain about a website that only covers one console and gives those games very high or low scores. It's quite obvious that website only dedicated to one console is going to be biased.
But when people go around saying EGM gives out bad scores to Nintendo the one issue Nintendo videogames did not get so great scores, and then go back and say EGM is great because Nintendo videogames got great scores that month is idiotic.
I am offering different views from different websites. And that is really what this website needs. Because normally all you get is opinions from one side on many videogame matters.
You backed yourself up well...
Originally posted by Xantar
Geez, you guys. Why are you getting so worked up? Can't we wait for some official numbers from some official group that has access to some official data or something official like that? It's not like waiting a week or two before making your decision is going to kill you.
That's what I always wait for Xantar. But when people present false information it is always fair to show opposing views.
I will as usual post the official Microsoft press release on sales when it's released.
Xantar
03-16-2002, 11:47 PM
Eerm...I wasn't talking to you (just in case you were thinking that). But thanks for backing me up. :D
Angrist
03-17-2002, 10:14 AM
Bond, you don't believe the article just because you can't read it yourself??? Why would I lie? :rolleyes: BTW it's the most popular newspaper in Holland and it is reliable. And it says that the XB launch was a flop, which is the translation of failure. But that might just be Holland. Perhaps it did better in the UK.
Angrist
03-17-2002, 10:20 AM
I guess this is what Cube-Europe was talkin bout:
Early in the morning on March 14, a major retail chain named Media Markt launched a nationwide TV campaign in which it announced it is selling the Xbox for the retail price of 399 euros ($352) instead of Microsoft's suggested retail price of 479 euros ($423). This price drop caused a major uproar in the industry, with many other German retail chains following suit, resulting in zero profit for individual retail outlets. Media Markt's strategy was to lure gamers into their stores in the hope that they'd buy more games or peripherals for Microsoft's debut console. Naturally, smaller stores had to stick to their pricing and couldn't give price reductions to people who preordered the console.
"We'll analyze the situation but retail prices are the trade's decision," Microsoft Germany's director Hans Stettmeier told industry paper MCV in response to the price drop. "We can't and won't interfere with that." Official distributors are now working with smaller retailers to offer them a solution. However, it remains uncertain as to whether the price tag will stay at 399 euros ($352) and whether smaller shops will have to follow suit. If that is the case, most shops in Germany are unlikely to make any profit on sales of the console.
The price is simpy too high.
Originally posted by Angrist
I guess this is what Cube-Europe was talkin bout:
Early in the morning on March 14, a major retail chain named Media Markt launched a nationwide TV campaign in which it announced it is selling the Xbox for the retail price of 399 euros ($352) instead of Microsoft's suggested retail price of 479 euros ($423). This price drop caused a major uproar in the industry, with many other German retail chains following suit, resulting in zero profit for individual retail outlets. Media Markt's strategy was to lure gamers into their stores in the hope that they'd buy more games or peripherals for Microsoft's debut console. Naturally, smaller stores had to stick to their pricing and couldn't give price reductions to people who preordered the console.
"We'll analyze the situation but retail prices are the trade's decision," Microsoft Germany's director Hans Stettmeier told industry paper MCV in response to the price drop. "We can't and won't interfere with that." Official distributors are now working with smaller retailers to offer them a solution. However, it remains uncertain as to whether the price tag will stay at 399 euros ($352) and whether smaller shops will have to follow suit. If that is the case, most shops in Germany are unlikely to make any profit on sales of the console.
The price is simpy too high.
Well, it seems as though a chain has dropped the price. So problem solved there.
And of course I am not going to believe something that is in a different language. Please wait for the official announcement rather than posting speculation.
Perfect Stu
03-17-2002, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Bond
Please wait for the official announcement rather than posting speculation.
uh...I think he's trying to say that what he posted is NOT speculation...
Professor S
03-18-2002, 08:47 PM
This brings to mind the "fact" about the XBox recall in Japan...
:rolleyes:
Originally posted by Perfect Stu
uh...I think he's trying to say that what he posted is NOT speculation...
If it's not speculation then why are there no specific numbers?
BigJustinW
03-18-2002, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by The Strangler
This brings to mind the "fact" about the XBox recall in Japan...
:rolleyes:
LMAO!!! :D
Angrist
03-19-2002, 11:54 AM
I saw heaps of X-Box boxes in stores today. At least 15 in one store. :unsure:
Perfect Stu
03-19-2002, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Angrist
I saw heaps of X-Box boxes in stores today. At least 15 in one store. :unsure:
Angrist, we get your point. But really, that means nothing. One store? I'll wait for an official announcement, just like these other people.
Originally posted by Angrist
I saw heaps of X-Box boxes in stores today. At least 15 in one store. :unsure:
That's great! I'm glad that Microsoft is keeping a good stock!
But I agree with Perfect Stu, please stop these pointless comments. Actually display some facts and real numbers, then someone may believe you.
Wait till the official announcement. Is it really that hard to do?
Old Skool
03-20-2002, 06:24 AM
XBOX EUROPEAN LAUNCH A SUCCESS
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LONDON, 20th March 2002 – The dust has cleared from the European launch of Xbox, the future-generation video game system from Microsoft, and preliminary reports indicate it’s a runaway hit.
Thousands of gamers queued up at stores in the 16 European launch countries on the evening of 13th March to be among the first to purchase Xbox, resulting in a near sell-out in its first day at retail. Early reports also show a huge demand for games and accessories, with most customers leaving stores not only with an Xbox, but with multiple games and accessories. Top-selling games include “Halo™,” “Project Gotham Racing™,” “RalliSport Challenge” and “Oddworld: Munch’s Oddysee™” from Microsoft® Game Studios, and “Dead or Alive 3” from Tecmo, “Max Payne” from Take-Two Interactive, Wreckless: The Yakuza Missions from Activision, and “Jet Set Radio Future” from Sega/Infogrames.
“We have been pleased with Xbox sales over its first weekend,” said Lisa Morgan, Commercial Director for GAME and Electronics Boutique. “Hardware sales were particularly impressive on launch day and we’ve seen a good attachment rate covering both 1st and 3rd-party games. The strong line-up of day-one games has undoubtedly contributed to a successful console launch for Microsoft.”
Microsoft’s replenishment strategy means that a steady supply of Xbox systems will be hitting retail on a weekly basis, ensuring there is enough product to cope with current demand. Microsoft expects to ship between 4.5 million and 6 million Xbox systems world-wide by the end of June. Xbox is the only console manufacturer with a European factory (in Sárvár, Hungary), which means stock can reach any retail outlet in Europe in under three days.
“I’m excited to finally see Xbox in the hands of gamers,” said Sandy Duncan, Vice President, Xbox Europe. “I’ve always known that Xbox is the best video game system ever, but after playing games with people at launch I see that gamers also recognise the amazing power and intense fun that only Xbox can offer. European gamers have welcomed Xbox into their hearts and into their homes in a big way.”
Word-of-mouth recommendations and stellar reviews are driving gamers to the great games available on Xbox, including “Halo,” which earned a perfect 10 score from the influential European gaming bible Edge.
Twenty Xbox titles are now on sale, with more lined up in the next two weeks such as F1 2002 (Electronic Arts), Genma Onimusha (Capcom), Championship Manager: Season 01/02 (Eidos), and Shrek (TDK Mediactive). And, a steady stream of titles will support Xbox up to June 2002, including FIFA World Cup 2002 (Electronic Arts), International Superstar Soccer 2 (Konami), Moto GP (THQ), Spiderman: The Movie (Activision), Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Electronic Arts) and Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex (Universal Interactive).
"We had a very good weekend with Xbox," said Bruno Bonnell, Founder and CEO, Infogrames. "We have had to produce more copies of Jet Set Radio Future, one of our Xbox launch titles, to keep up with demand. Trans World Surf is also doing well for us. This is a very good sign for the long-term success of Xbox, and we look forward to a long partnership."
The buzz surrounding the launch of Xbox manifested itself in many ways. A survey of new Xbox owners by Amazon.co.uk suggested that 74% were planning to take a day off work to stay home and play games – nearly half (46%) were going to feign illness as an excuse. Celebrities are not immune to the charm of Xbox either – it even contributed to Britney Spears' recent split from Justin Timberlake due to his apparent preference for Xbox. And anecdotal reports show that Xbox has entered our vocabularies – sorry Harry Potter, but “wizard” is out…if something’s cool, then it’s “totally Xbox”![/b]
Professor S
03-20-2002, 08:42 PM
Gee, that seemed to shut everyone up, didn't it?
Originally posted by The Strangler
Gee, that seemed to shut everyone up, didn't it?
Indeed.
Xantar
03-20-2002, 09:31 PM
I'm not saying that this was a bad launch (if the numbers about PS2's launch are right, then XBox did really well), but isn't Europe supposed to be the biggest videogame market? Is it because Europeans buy the most software rather than the most consoles?
Wait a second. That's not the article I thought it was. Where is it from? I was thinking of a Computer and Videogames article which said XBox sold 80,000 in the first 3 days (which was apparently good compared to PS2's 70,000).
Anyways, I hate to sound like the nitpicking fanboy, but I didn't see any solid numbers in PuPPeT's article. All I saw was pleased statements from Microsoft and retailers which isn't a bad thing but doesn't quite have the impact of a nice, solid number. Did I miss something?
Shadow_Link
03-21-2002, 04:34 PM
Take this information however the way you want to take it...
In short, Xbox software is doing very well around europe, though ofcourse, none of the games (not even Halo) could reach number one, as MGS2 has been dominating recently.
But if you wanted hardware figures, read this...
Estimates suggest that 48,000 machines were sold during Xbox's launch week.
link (http://www.gamesradar.com/news/game_news_2987.html)
Though that most likely was in the UK, and not the whole of Europe...
Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Though that most likely was in the UK, and not the whole of Europe...
Really? That's quite surprising.
Angrist
03-29-2002, 07:14 AM
It seems like M$ still hasn't released official numbers....
And if what Xantar and Shadow_Link are saying is true (80.000 in whole Europe, 48.000 in GB only), than that's kinda sad. That means they sold more XB's in the UK than in the rest of Europe together. :unsure:
Originally posted by Angrist
It seems like M$ still hasn't released official numbers....
And if what Xantar and Shadow_Link are saying is true (80.000 in whole Europe, 48.000 in GB only), than that's kinda sad. That means they sold more XB's in the UK than in the rest of Europe together. :unsure:
Angrist please stop your speculation. It brings you no where and it's pointless.
Once again if you could just have patience and wait for the official numbers.
But if you want to take speculation, actually read it correctly:
article which said XBox sold 80,000 in the first 3 days (which was apparently good compared to PS2's 70,000).
Angrist
03-29-2002, 11:14 AM
:unsure:
What's taking them so long!??!
Professor S
03-29-2002, 11:35 AM
Why do you care so much?
Originally posted by Angrist
:unsure:
What's taking them so long!??!
I'm not sure, nor do I care.
If you are so concerned about the matter then why don't you just e-mail Microsoft and ask them?
Angrist
03-30-2002, 08:40 AM
That might be a good idea. In the meanwhile, I made this new poll on a Dutch site. http://www.thefellowship.nl/forum/showthread.php?threadid=1903
Now I'm sure the GCN will win from the XB in Holland. Luckily, I live there. :cool:
Originally posted by Angrist
That might be a good idea. In the meanwhile, I made this new poll on a Dutch site. http://www.thefellowship.nl/forum/showthread.php?threadid=1903
Now I'm sure the GCN will win from the XB in Holland. Luckily, I live there. :cool:
Polls are inconclusive and mean nothing.
Just thought I'd throw that in...
For the fourth time, could you please just leave this subject at rest until something official is announced and stop whining.
Angrist
03-30-2002, 09:12 AM
:D
Originally posted by Angrist
:D
Thanks for that extremely intelligent post Angrist. :D
Shadow_Link
03-30-2002, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Bond
Thanks for that extremely intelligent post Angrist. :D
Thanks for that extremely intelligent post Bond :D
Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Thanks for that extremely intelligent post Bond :D
No, no, thank you for that extremely intelligent post Shadow_link. :D
Shadow_Link
03-30-2002, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Bond
No, no, thank you for that extremely intelligent post Shadow_link. :D
This can go on forever Bond! But to end this, let me just add, what an extremely, extremely intelligent post Bond :D...
*Ok, that's enough!*
Originally posted by Shadow_Link
This can go on forever Bond! But to end this, let me just add, what an extremely, extremely intelligent post Bond :D...
*Ok, that's enough!*
Well, you can end it this time. But next time I will end it! :D
Angrist
04-03-2002, 11:35 AM
Some new light. I'm afraid the link is to Cube-Europe again, but it should be on Bloomberg or something too...
http://www.cube-europe.com/fullnews.cgi?newsid1017823939,8029,
BigJustinW
04-03-2002, 12:09 PM
Um... why do I get the feeling Cube-Europe is out to bash Xbox?
Do ANY other major websites (maybe a microsoft one) claim that X-Box has flopped?
Shadow_Link
04-03-2002, 12:35 PM
Well, apparently, these reports seem to be popping up around here in the U.K, claiming the Xbox to be selling poorly, yet only the software is managing to sell quite well. As some in England would know, one of the pages on teletext, a very respected 'TV' magazine as it were, also seem to report this news. Most the reports also claim the launch here in the U.K (best performance in Europe thus far) for the Xbox was infact quite good, though only a few days after the launch has the Xbox been begining to show signs of slowing sales, and poor performance in selling terms.
I guess it will be a long road ahead of Microsoft, what with all these big titles already available, Iand the launch of the Gc on the horizon. It is just wait and see at the moment.
I think it's rather lame that Cube-Europe must report Xbox related news articles that are biased. Do you see any major Xbox website reporting GameCube news? No.
Press Release:
Santa Monica, CA – April 1, 2002 -- Activision, Inc. (Nasdaq: ATVI) announced today that WRECKLESS: The Yakuza MissionsTM and Tony Hawk’s Pro SkaterTM 3 were the #1 and #2 best-selling third-party titles by units for the XboxTM video game system from Microsoft in Germany for the week of March 18 – 24, 2002, according to Media Control. These results followed the successful European launch of Xbox on March 14, 2002.
Additionally, Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 was the #4 third-party title for the PlayStation® video game console and the #5 third-party title for the PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system, according to Media Control.
“The success of WRECKLESS: The Yakuza Missions and Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 reinforce Activision’s position as a brand leader on Xbox,” said Ron Doornink, President and COO, Activision Inc. “Activision is poised to continue its leadership position on both the Xbox and PlayStation 2 with upcoming launches of Spider-Man® the movie game, Mat Hoffman’s Pro BMXTM 2 and Kelly Slater’s Pro SurferTM.”
Angrist
04-04-2002, 11:56 AM
Well, that just an article from Activision, it's also biased. It would look kinda stupid if they told that the XB launch wasn't succesful.
Why isn't M$ releasing official numbers????
Originally posted by Angrist
Well, that just an article from Activision, it's also biased. It would look kinda stupid if they told that the XB launch wasn't succesful.
Why isn't M$ releasing official numbers????
It's not biased. It's factual information. Showing how well two Xbox games sold. Not opinions on how well the Xbox did in Europe. :rolleyes:
BigJustinW
04-04-2002, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Angrist
Well, that just an article from Activision, it's also biased.
I don't get how a 3rd Party developer can be biased....
Angrist
04-04-2002, 12:08 PM
They say it's succesful. What are their standards?? I bet they'd say the Japanese launch was succesful... or the Virtual Boy's launch (if they would have made launch games for it).
This doesn't say a thing.
BigJustinW
04-04-2002, 12:18 PM
Well I trust them more than a GAMECUBE site.
When Xbox sites start posting that it's a flop, I will listen.
BigJustinW
04-04-2002, 12:23 PM
Oh, and on a side note... Xbox has launched in the slowest season of the year... so if it does have lower launch sales than Ps2 or GCN it doesn't really matter.
Quarter 1: 10% of video game sales for the year
Quarter 2: 20% of video game sales for the year
Quarter 3: 30% of video game sales for the year
Quarter 4: 40% of video game sales for the year
This is a rough estimate... but, like I have said in older topics:
January 1st 2003... the judgement day.
Angrist
04-04-2002, 01:03 PM
Okay... we're hearing differents sounds... some say that it was succesful, others that it wasn't. I think it's safe to say that it was an average launch. Not the biggest, but definately not a flop. Happy?
Originally posted by Angrist
Okay... we're hearing differents sounds... some say that it was succesful, others that it wasn't. I think it's safe to say that it was an average launch. Not the biggest, but definately not a flop. Happy?
Is Angrist trying to bargain now?
The majority of your information comes from Cube-Europe, Angrist. A biased source overall on Xbox news. Disregard it.
ed328
04-05-2002, 11:31 AM
Cube-Europe are not the ones who said XBOX is a flop, all they did was reprint an article stating that the industry in general feels that way. It can be found here. (http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=280572) Also, here's another article (http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=281669) where thay assert that the president and COO of Microsoft might have been pushed out because of the XBOX's performance.
Angrist
04-06-2002, 05:15 AM
Thanks man, finally someone backing me up. :)
Yesterday I went to a store to reserve my GCN (actually I already reserved it somewhere else, but where I'm gonna buy it now you get a free controller with it). I asked the man if they had sold many X-Boxes, but they hadn't. Doesn't say much about Europe though... :unsure:
Professor S
04-06-2002, 12:44 PM
Yesterday I went to a store to reserve my GCN (actually I already reserved it somewhere else, but where I'm gonna buy it now you get a free controller with it). I asked the man if they had sold many X-Boxes, but they hadn't. Doesn't say much about Europe though... :unsure:
Angrist, are you STILL trying to claim that a gaming store near where you live should be considered the yard stick by which all sales are measured?
Thats like saying that if a Burger King near me doesn't sell many Whoppers, that no whoppers are being sold ANYWHERE. Pretty rediculous, huh?
How bout we go back to the idea that ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE and wait for OFFICIAL NUMBERS...
Good lord. Some people...
Angrist
04-06-2002, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Angrist
Thanks man, finally someone backing me up. :)
Yesterday I went to a store to reserve my GCN (actually I already reserved it somewhere else, but where I'm gonna buy it now you get a free controller with it). I asked the man if they had sold many X-Boxes, but they hadn't. Doesn't say much about Europe though... :unsure: :mad2: Read, newbie.
Originally posted by Angrist
:mad2: Read, newbie.
Your comment was completely pointless. You made the topic 'X-box sales in Europe' we're talking about Europe as a whole, not your local shop.
The comment contributes nothing to the debate.
Joeiss
04-06-2002, 05:05 PM
But at least he said :
". I asked the man if they had sold many X-Boxes, but they hadn't. Doesn't say much about Europe though... :unsure:"
Professor S
04-06-2002, 11:16 PM
Joeiss, I don't care what little tag line he added to the bottom of his post to try and cover his ass, if you couldn't get the jist of what he was implying you are either blind or retarded. He is once again making broad, rash statements based on his local "EB" or whatever. He has done this several times and it is quite annoying. If he wishes to post here he should at least think of something reasonably intelligent to add to the discussion.
Oh, and Angrist, please don't call me a "newbie" (OH NO!) again. It hurt my feelings so much I had to go in the corner and cry.:rolleyes:
Perfect Stu
04-07-2002, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Perfect Stu
Angrist, we get your point. But really, that means nothing. One store? Give me a damn break. I'll wait for an official announcement, just like these other people.
:mad:
Perfect Stu
04-07-2002, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Angrist
I asked the man if they had sold many X-Boxes, but they hadn't. Doesn't say much about Europe though... :unsure:
You see that last part?
:unsure:
:unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:
???
You could have left that out...and maybe, just MAYBE, your post might have meant something.
That "unsure" smile could mean "I'm not sure if that says much about Europe" or "Maybe what I just said was pointless"....but it could also mean that you SEEM disappointed with how the XBox is selling...which is a load of BS, you and I and everyone else all know that.
But enough...I'm done with disecting one stupid unnecessary smilie.
Angrist
04-07-2002, 01:10 PM
Gee, I never thought I would actually make someone mad on this forum... :rolleyes:
All I wanna say is that many people (not all) think that the X-Box launch was a bit dissapointing. (And to be honest, I don't feel sorry for M$.)
Perfect Stu
04-07-2002, 03:36 PM
you really need to listen to people, angrist
I made that post on the second or third page of this topic...and a couple people agreed with me....yet you still had to tell your little story about how the Xbox isn't selling that well in your store...
I mean, give everyone a damn break...I HOPE you know that it's completely pointless...
Originally posted by Perfect Stu
you really need to listen to people, angrist
I made that post on the second or third page of this topic...and a couple people agreed with me....yet you still had to tell your little story about how the Xbox isn't selling that well in your store...
I mean, give everyone a damn break...I HOPE you know that it's completely pointless...
That it is Perfect Stu.
But Angrist just must feel the need to go on and on and on and on with his pointless posts.
It seems as though a pointless reply is posted. Then everyone explains why it has no bearing to Europe as a whole and that it has no effect on the discussion. Then the topic is left idle for a few days and Angrist comes back with another pointless reply.
Angrist
04-07-2002, 05:27 PM
Yeah, ain't it cool? I just want to have a long thread. :D
No really... I guess I just don't like X-Box... :(
Originally posted by Angrist
Yeah, ain't it cool? I just want to have a long thread. :D
No really... I guess I just don't like X-Box... :(
Well, Angrist, you've managed to make yourself look like an idiot and a fanboy.
Not only will your 'long thread' not be counted for anything but it will also be closed.
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