Famitsu rates BioHazard! [Archive]

C.H

03-13-2002, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by BLueFire
Resident Evil 1 (or BioHazard) gets a 39/40! :eek:

This amazing score qualifies Biohazard for a Dendo-platinum award. This makes BioHazard the highest rated GameCube game yet!

What do you guys think?

Considering it's not an orignal game and thats it's an improvement over the playstation original. They really must have improved the game a hell of lot to get a score that high. And another thing i'm going to say.......I've decided that i'm definetly getting it when it makes it's way into europe. Although i thought that the game would be good, i didn't expect it to get a score that high.

Jason1

03-13-2002, 06:27 PM

Thats incredible, and famitzu dosent score games easily, from what I remember.

Gamer

03-13-2002, 06:32 PM

WOW, thats an awsome score and some great news for all Gamecube fans. I've never bought a RE game, but this might be one that i have to buy.:D Anyways, great news!

Ginkasa

03-13-2002, 07:20 PM

Yep, I'm gwtting it. No doubt about it.

Yoda9864

03-13-2002, 07:33 PM

Holy crap! I figured it would be good, but that's just an awesome score!

BreakABone

03-13-2002, 07:36 PM

I would just like to point out something. Well I noticed it more at IGN then here. But how come no one is calling Famistu biase?

I mean if this game would have got something like a 27. Everyone would find some lame excuse for it.. "O it's just a port", "Famistu is a bunch of biase ***s"

I don't know. I find it funnie because Justin has a concur thread in the Fight Club about ratings and some are saying they don't go by other's opinion then this..

Like I said just wanted to point this out

Joeiss

03-13-2002, 08:19 PM

That is one hell of a rating. I still doubt I will get this game, but for those who depend on other peoples' opinions to buy games, this is great for them.

BTW, has a game ever gotten a 40/40? For which system?

Gamer

03-13-2002, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by BreakABone
I would just like to point out something. Well I noticed it more at IGN then here. But how come no one is calling Famistu biase?

I mean if this game would have got something like a 27. Everyone would find some lame excuse for it.. "O it's just a port", "Famistu is a bunch of biase ***s"

I don't know. I find it funnie because Justin has a concur thread in the Fight Club about ratings and some are saying they don't go by other's opinion then this..

Like I said just wanted to point this out

Well, Famitsu, at least for me, is the one online/offline rating system i can trust. I used to trust ign, but they kinda went down.

Blackmane

03-14-2002, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by gamer

Well, Famitsu, at least for me, is the one online/offline rating system i can trust. I used to trust ign, but they kinda went down.

I hear ya there, they are noticably biased towards XBOX which is annoying. Famitsu is harsh in general to videogames so for them to score a PORT a 39/40 is incredible to say the least.

I am definetely getting it.

GameMaster

03-14-2002, 01:31 AM

Famitsu is well respected for their reviews world wide. Their my primary source, then IGN.

DeathsHand

03-14-2002, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by Blackmane
Famitsu is harsh in general to videogames so for them to score a PORT a 39/40 is incredible to say the least.

A port is where you take the same game from one system and stick it on another...

this is a remake... new areas, new updated graphics, new voice acting, and even at least one storyline change (Richard not dying, or at least not right away)...

Anyways, I knew it would be awesome... that's why I started selling some PS2 games I didn't play anymore so I could buy a gamecube by the time RE1 comes out :p

I just hope that, with NGC's sorta outta place D-pad, they actually have real analog movement in the control stick... every past RE game with analog stick support (except maybe RE2 on N64, which I never played) has had this crappy thing where they split the analog stick into sections that act like the sections on the D-pad... so it wasn't really analog... and the movement like that sucked big time, IMO...

Drunk Hobbit

03-14-2002, 06:37 AM

And what score did the original Biohazard get?

Ric

03-14-2002, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by BLueFire
Resident Evil 1 (or BioHazard) gets a 39/40! :eek:

Holy steaming pile of turd........ coming from Famitsu thats good, they're right harsh when rating games.

Originally posted some stupid guy called C.H lol.
Considering it's not an orignal game and thats it's an improvement over the playstation original.

Sega saturn original ;)

Originally posted by Danchastu
And what score did the original Biohazard get?

Wha u mean, 'original Biohazard' this is the 'original biohazard', I trust you mean the original Resident Evil. Christ only knows mate.

Revival

03-14-2002, 10:18 AM

Holy ****, I am getting that game -- no matter what.

Blix

03-14-2002, 02:21 PM

I had high expectations but this is even more thatn I expected. I always knew I was getting it anyway.

Drunk Hobbit

03-14-2002, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Ric

Wha u mean, 'original Biohazard' this is the 'original biohazard', I trust you mean the original Resident Evil. Christ only knows mate.

The original one for PSX. Wasn't it always called Biohazard in Nihon though?

DeathsHand

03-14-2002, 04:17 PM

RE has always been called Biohazard in Japan, they just decided to change the name for some reason when it came to the US, and it's stayed that way... This one will be called Resident Evil in the US as well...

And yeah, I wonder what score the old RE (saturn or PSX, either one) got... hmmm *rubs chin*

Xantar

03-14-2002, 06:06 PM

For those of you wondering if Famitsu is biased, I assure you that they are not. The proof is in the scores. The same issue where they give Biohazard a 39 also gave these scores:

Meanwhile, NBA Street brought home the magazine's Silver Award with a score of 30 out of 40, while Rogue Leader nabbed a rating of 28 out of 40 and Rave a 26 out of 40.

Source: IGN (http://cube.ign.com/articles/355/355434p1.html)

Granted, NBA Street and Rogue Leader are American games which typically don't do well in Japan, but Rave is not.

Or it could be that Rave is so bad that even a fanboy magazine like Famitsu wouldn't dare to give it a good score. :rolleyes:

P.S. Not looking good for the Konami support so far...

BigJustinW

03-14-2002, 06:14 PM

*shakes head in disgust*

BreakABone... I guess you now understand how Nintendo fans piss me off...

You guys just happen to support any source that gives Nintendo games high scores... but you never listen when Nnitendo gets low scores...

it's no use argueing, anybody who replied to my IGN thread and said somthing that bashes IGN is 1) a hypocrit or 2) a fanboy whose opinion I'm never going to respect again....

I used to think this forum was intelegent... oh well, guess there is no such thing as that *shrugs*

nWoCHRISnWo

03-14-2002, 06:50 PM

Not that I give a **** BigW, but everyone on this site (or NDose before this site) always respected Famitsu and followed their scores. More than one person in this thread has told you why they repsect Famitsu, did you miss these posts?

BigJustinW

03-14-2002, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by nWoCHRISnWo
Not that I give a **** BigW, but everyone on this site (or NDose before this site) always respected Famitsu and followed their scores. More than one person in this thread has told you why they repsect Famitsu, did you miss these posts?

They respect Fatsamu because it give Nintendo good scores... period.

There isn't one source that gives Nintendo good marks that Nintendo fans don't respect...even Nintendo power is highly respected....

it's funny, because IGN, back when Nintendose was young, was getting a LOT of respect in the forums... back when N64 was getting good scores all the time, and when Ps2 was getting worse scores than Dreamcast, people here acted like it's the only source on the net...

Now that GCN's scores are low on IGN, and Xbox's scores are higher... well... go look in the fight club forum for yourself....

Drunk Hobbit

03-14-2002, 07:11 PM

I'm a little weary of IGN only for the fact that each console has its own staff.

BreakABone

03-14-2002, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by Danchastu
I'm a little weary of IGN only for the fact that each console has its own staff.

Well that is rather correct.. I mean just compare the scores for Sonic Adventure 2 on DreamCast and on for GC. I mean I could understand the scores being lower because it's a port but almost 3 points.

Revival

03-14-2002, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by BreakABone
Well that is rather correct.. I mean just compare the scores for Sonic Adventure 2 on DreamCast and on for GC. I mean I could understand the scores being lower because it's a port but almost 3 points.
Yeah, I know what you mean.. :unsure:

BlueFire

03-14-2002, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by BigJustinW

They respect Fatsamu because it give Nintendo good scores... period.
:rolleyes:

GameMaster

03-14-2002, 10:05 PM

Believe you want Justin :rolleyes:

fingersman

03-14-2002, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by Xantar

Source: IGN (http://cube.ign.com/articles/355/355434p1.html)

Granted, NBA Street and Rogue Leader are American games which typically don't do well in Japan, but Rave is not.

Or it could be that Rave is so bad that even a fanboy magazine like Famitsu wouldn't dare to give it a good score. :rolleyes:

P.S. Not looking good for the Konami support so far...

Well 28 out of 40 isn't bad
that's about 7 out of ten :D..which is 70 percent .......hmmmmmmmm I wonder how come rave got such a low score...man I had hopes for that game. :(

BigJustinW

03-15-2002, 01:29 AM

What I'm saying isn't factual??? :confused:

Like I said, no point argueing... I'm one of the oldest members here, and I have spent more time around these forums than 95% of the members... I have always been on the oppising side of Nintendo fans in arguements, and I know what I'm talking about...

I guess it's just a coincedence that you guys give respect to the magizines/sites that give Nintendo high scores... and that you dislike magizines that give Nintendo games low scores... Even if it means turning your back on once respected sources...

I'm a Nintendo fan, but you guys are at a different level... I guess that's where the word fanboy came from...

Joeiss

03-15-2002, 09:23 AM

I sort of agree with Justin, but I do not think that Nintendo fans dislike the sites/magazines that give Nintendo game low marks. I think that Nintendo fans just ignore them until they start giving a Nintendo game a good mark, then somebody will make a thread like this one saying how sweet the game is.

I don't know. I couldn't really care less if Nintendo games, or PS2 or XBox games for that matter, get bad or good marks. Like I said earlier, if 7 different sources give a game that you think is interesting a mark of 7/10 or higher, rent the game. If 7 different sources give a game that you think is interesting a mark of 3/10 or higher, still rent the game, because who cares what other people think, you still might enjoy the game.

Bond

03-15-2002, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by BigJustinW
*shakes head in disgust*

BreakABone... I guess you now understand how Nintendo fans piss me off...

You guys just happen to support any source that gives Nintendo games high scores... but you never listen when Nnitendo gets low scores...

it's no use argueing, anybody who replied to my IGN thread and said somthing that bashes IGN is 1) a hypocrit or 2) a fanboy whose opinion I'm never going to respect again....

I used to think this forum was intelegent... oh well, guess there is no such thing as that *shrugs*
Justin brings up a rather intelligent argument.

Let's see the opposing side's reply:

Originally posted by BLueFire
:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Gamemaster2002
Believe you want Justin :rolleyes:

I must say, it's quite obvious who should have won this debate. But it also is quite obvious who did win.

Perfect Stu

03-15-2002, 10:07 PM

I tend to agree with Justin on this matter

but I think he's taking it a little far

these guys aren't going nuts over Famitsu or against IGN...they're just happy that the Gamecube is finally getting a good game...

;)

and in memory of bobcat,

*flies away*

GameMaster

03-15-2002, 10:13 PM

I'm on a much higher level than Justin. He still refers to gaming magazines for ratings. While I, rent the games myself and give them my own personal rating. What other people say or believe does not bug me. Everyone here has the right to say what they want. Some games just aren't meant for everyone. Justin I hope in time, you will come to relying on yourself rather than other people's opinions for video games.

Bond

03-15-2002, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Gamemaster2002
I'm on a much higher level than Justin. He still refers to gaming magazines for ratings. While I, rent the games myself and give them my own personal rating. What other people say or believe does not bug me. Everyone here has the right to say what they want. Some games just aren't meant for everyone. Justin I hope in time, you will come to relying on yourself rather than other people's opinions for video games.
If you are on such a 'higher level' than Justin is, then why did you write this for an entire post: "Believe you want Justin :rolleyes:" First of all it's pointless, second of all it doesn't even make sense.

GameMaster

03-15-2002, 11:47 PM

Because Justin believes we all act that way when we don't. I meant, "Believe what you want Justin." I just made an error when typing.

BTW Bond, welcome back. We haven't seen you in a while :)

Xantar

03-15-2002, 11:55 PM

In my opinion, Justin heavily overgeneralizes, and in any case, I don't think Nintendo fans are much worse than fans of other systems.

But he has a valid point nonetheless, and nobody has given him a decent counter-argument. And here's a tip for you, GameMaster2002: if you declare that you are on a higher level than somebody else, you really aren't. People who are on a higher level don't feel the need to say it to the world. They just know it's true, and what's more, everybody else does, too.

GameMaster

03-15-2002, 11:58 PM

But Justin doesn't know. He falls to the sweeping generalization as you said that everyone here is like that when in fact they're not. I want him to know they are many people here who aren't like that.

Xantar

03-16-2002, 12:26 AM

Does that put you on a higher level than him? No. At least Justin is aware of his limitations.

GameMaster

03-16-2002, 12:38 AM

I think it does because I don't generalize everyone by one "fanboy" or whatever you guys prefer to call it.

???

03-17-2002, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Gamemaster2002
I think it does because I don't generalize everyone by one "fanboy" or whatever you guys prefer to call it.

Originally posted by BigJustinW
I'm a Nintendo fan, but you guys are at a different level... I guess that's where the word fanboy came from...

GameMaster

03-17-2002, 02:51 PM

Hey it's that Mysterio guy again!! :eek:

Who are you? Show yourself! :mad:

BlueFire

03-17-2002, 05:11 PM

I would have posted a thread for Resident Evil even if it got a crappy score. You want to know why? I am keeping track of this game because I liked this game when I played it (which is not too far back) and I want to know if it's worth buying right now. It got a good score, so I really want this game. Hell, I'm posting IGN's score when it comes (if it's not insider :D).

Mystery Mod

03-17-2002, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by Gamemaster2002
Hey it's that Mysterio guy again!! :eek:

Who are you? Show yourself! :mad:

Ok, here I am.

Wait. Were you talking to me? :confused:

BigJustinW

03-17-2002, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by Gamemaster2002
But Justin doesn't know. He falls to the sweeping generalization as you said that everyone here is like that when in fact they're not. I want him to know they are many people here who aren't like that.

Of course there are people here who aren't like that... but these same people aren't Nintendo fans are they?

Like ??? showed in the quote, I serperated the Fanboys from the Fans... Fans just judge off of what they play, and they don't have any bias when it comes to reviews, if a place is once trusted, it's always trusted. Fanboys will get mad if a game on thier system gets a bad review.

Like I said before, IGN used to be loved so much and used so much in arguements the first year I was at Nintendose/ND.net/Gametavern, that you'd think IGN was the only source on the net.... the wierd part is, Ps2 was getting bad scores, and N64/Dreamcast were geting good scores... Now that GCN gets lower scores than Xbox, these same people are acting like IGN is the worst source for reviews.

If Nintendo was still geting thier weenie sucks at IGN, you guys would still love and respect the site... and to me (One of the biggest debaters on the board), this is a good reason to be pissed off about it.

Is this arguement done, or are you going to make another dumb post so I can say the same arguement over?

Blackmane

03-18-2002, 02:02 AM

I agree mostly with Justin.

*chokes on his own spit in surprise*

I was like that myself at first. I used to trust IGN for reviews, mainly because I made myself believe that they were fair reviews when in fact the only reason I liked them so much is because they gave the N64 games good rating. I started to get mad at them for giving bad ratings to the GameCube games and getting pissed that X-box games were higher. I finally realized that those actions are all my fanboy tendancies and I think I've got it under control. (God, I sound like I'm in a therapy group spilling my guts :D).

Anyway, the point is, we shouldn't be all hypocritical about IGN and Famitsu ratings just because of their certain bias'. That is there opinion and a decent indicator of the quality of the game, but it doesn't determine if you like the game or not.

Blix

03-18-2002, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by BigJustinW

Like ??? showed in the quote, I serperated the Fanboys from the Fans... Fans just judge off of what they play, and they don't have any bias when it comes to reviews, if a place is once trusted, it's always trusted. Fanboys will get mad if a game on thier system gets a bad review.

Like I said before, IGN used to be loved so much and used so much in arguements the first year I was at Nintendose/ND.net/Gametavern, that you'd think IGN was the only source on the net.... the wierd part is, Ps2 was getting bad scores, and N64/Dreamcast were geting good scores... Now that GCN gets lower scores than Xbox, these same people are acting like IGN is the worst source for reviews.

If Nintendo was still geting thier weenie sucks at IGN, you guys would still love and respect the site... and to me (One of the biggest debaters on the board), this is a good reason to be pissed off about it.

I disagree! I think IGN started to being dislike when they started charging for their service. and so everybody critizes it. Their review, their previews, their articels, everything. BTW, Famitsu has been the only one to review it. I think the other sites will give it a score just as impresive. And the game is going to be awesome for what we have seen. Stop bitching.

Xantar

03-18-2002, 09:35 AM

It's true that people dislike IGN for charging for Insider stuff, but it isn't until recently that people started calling them biased. When IGNinsider was first announced, people called them greedy but not biased. Now that IGN is posting reviews of GameCube games that are mediocre, people are calling them biased.

The simple fact of the matter is that right now, at this time of the year, the games being released on GameCube are not the highest quality around.

BigJustinW

03-18-2002, 11:17 AM

Thank You Blackmane... you earned a lot of respect from me for that post....

Nemesis:
I disagree! I think IGN started to being dislike when they started charging for their service. and so everybody critizes it. Their review, their previews, their articels, everything.

Read Xantar's post

BTW, Famitsu has been the only one to review it. I think the other sites will give it a score just as impresive. And the game is going to be awesome for what we have seen. Stop bitching.

What does this have to do with anything???

I never said that RE1 will be crap, I just said you guys are quick to post a good score, and you are quick to bash a site for a bad score.

BigJustinW

03-18-2002, 11:45 AM

Just testing this system Xantar

GameMaster

03-18-2002, 04:30 PM

There never was an argument Justin, I just don't like how you generalize everyone by one person. I agree with your statements however. What do say, are we on good terms now?

BlueFire

03-18-2002, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by BigJustinW

I never said that RE1 will be crap, I just said you guys are quick to post a good score, and you are quick to bash a site for a bad score. Who the hell is bashing another site for a bad score?

GameMaster

03-18-2002, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Mystery Mod

Ok, here I am.

Wait. Were you talking to me? :confused:

Who are Mystery Mod and ???

Do moderators here hide their real opinions in these identities? :confused:

Blix

03-19-2002, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by BigJustinW
Thank You Blackmane... you earned a lot of respect from me for that post....

Nemesis:

What does this have to do with anything???

I never said that RE1 will be crap, I just said you guys are quick to post a good score, and you are quick to bash a site for a bad score.
Well I guess I'm not the only one who has heard things like "Why pay for some stupid extras and some ****ty reviews?" or "they suck". So, IMO everybody started hating everything that's related to them. And the famitsu thing is because it sounded as if you were trying to say that if IGN or anybody else gives it a bad score, then people will start saying they're biased. Also, when you have high expectations about something and it doesn't live up to the expectations, you just don't talk about it anymore. You don't buy the game or anything related. You just stop caring about it, so MAYBE that's why people don't make threads saying "Hey this game got a bad review". Don't you think? :hmm:
You lost much of my respect with that stupid coment.

BigJustinW

03-19-2002, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Nemesis

Well I guess I'm not the only one who has heard things like "Why pay for some stupid extras and some ****ty reviews?" or "they suck". So, IMO everybody started hating everything that's related to them. And the famitsu thing is because it sounded as if you were trying to say that if IGN or anybody else gives it a bad score, then people will start saying they're biased. Also, when you have high expectations about something and it doesn't live up to the expectations, you just don't talk about it anymore. You don't buy the game or anything related. You just stop caring about it, so MAYBE that's why people don't make threads saying "Hey this game got a bad review". Don't you think? :hmm:
You lost much of my respect with that stupid coment.

Uhh.... and when Xbox gets better scores than Gamecube at IGN, how does this hurt IGN's reputation among Nintendo fans???

IMO, I think IGN has graded failrly, even when DC was getting higher marks than Ps2....

The fact is, IGN was the most respected site on the boards (for reviews), why was that?

Now IGN is one of the most disrespected sites (for reviews) on the boards, why is that?

Simple, the preferd system was getting better scores than any other system... now the preferd system is getting worse scores than any other system. The site used to be fair when Nintendo was ruleing, now it's unfair....

look at blackmane's post...

You don't know wtf you are talking about

Blix

03-19-2002, 09:22 PM

I think people are just angry with IGN. If black mane said what he said that's his problem. Don't generalize. I've hear XBox fans critize it too. At Gamerweb. And PS2 fans too. mostly ps2 fans. I guess they should be mad at their scores.:rolleyes: Maybe it's just that I don't think I know it all.

BigJustinW

03-20-2002, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by Nemesis
I think people are just angry with IGN. If black mane said what he said that's his problem. Don't generalize. I've hear XBox fans critize it too. At Gamerweb. And PS2 fans too. mostly ps2 fans. I guess they should be mad at their scores.:rolleyes: Maybe it's just that I don't think I know it all.

When did I say it's only Nintendo fans???

I just thought this board was smater than that....

I go to a horridly biased Xbox board (which has about 200 more members than GT) and they rarely ever dis Gamespot for the scores... in fact, they don't post scores from any sites... the only score topic I seen come up is the 6.9 vs 9.4 comparision of RIW for Xbox..

That NEEDS to be discussed....

But Nintendo's scores are generally the same at Gamespot and IGN, yet IGN gets put down for letting Cube have lower scores than Xbox.

Blix

03-21-2002, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by BigJustinW

When did I say it's only Nintendo fans???

I just thought this board was smater than that....

I go to a horridly biased Xbox board (which has about 200 more members than GT) and they rarely ever dis Gamespot for the scores... in fact, they don't post scores from any sites... the only score topic I seen come up is the 6.9 vs 9.4 comparision of RIW for Xbox..

That NEEDS to be discussed....

But Nintendo's scores are generally the same at Gamespot and IGN, yet IGN gets put down for letting Cube have lower scores than Xbox.
I still think it's because they started charging. Rather than because they give 'em lower scores. I mean, like you said "But Nintendo's scores are generally the same at Gamespot and IGN, yet IGN gets put down for letting Cube have lower scores than Xbox." Nobody ever had any problem with the gamespot. I think ppl will just critize everything they can about IGN. But let's leave it there.

Bond

03-21-2002, 10:14 PM

Does anyone see this argument as a little one sided?

It's 1 vs. 10.

GameMaster

03-21-2002, 10:40 PM

Nice avatar Bond. I know it's from South Park by the trademark eyes but who specifically is it?

BreakABone

03-21-2002, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by GameMaster
Nice avatar Bond. I know it's from South Park by the trademark eyes but who specifically is it?

Hmm that is a South Park wrestler pic..

That is of Jerry the King Lawler...

Now back to the subject at hand

ruthless Nintendo fanboys on one side vs Justin and Xanny.. um the Dual Mod Connection..err..they need a better tag name

GameMaster

03-22-2002, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by BreakABone
ruthless Nintendo fanboys on one side vs Justin and Xanny.. um the Dual Mod Connection..err..they need a better tag name

How about the "sweeping generalzation guerillas?" :p ;)

Just joking, please refrain from attacking me... :roll: