I thought that I was good at Math

[Crashette]

So i'm sitting at work with a bunch of 3-6 year olds and I got asked what came after a trillion so we all looked it up on google and i'll share the resutls with you!

thousand 1,000
1 million 1,000,000
2 billion 1,000,000,000
3 trillion 1,000,000,000,000
4 quadrillion 1,000,000,000,000,000
5 quintillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
6 sextillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
7 septillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
8 octillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
9 nonillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
10 decillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
11 undecillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
12 duodecillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
13 tredecillion write 1,000 followed by 13 groups of three zeros
14 quattuordecillion 1,000 followed by 14 groups of three zeros
15 quindecillion 1,000 followed by 15 groups of three zeros
16 sexdecillion 1,000 followed by 16 groups of three zeros
17 septendecillion 1,000 followed by 17 groups of three zeros
18 octodecillion 1,000 followed by 18 groups of three zeros
19 novemdecillion 1,000 followed by 19 groups of three zeros
20 vigintillion 1,000 followed by 20 groups of three zeros
21 unvigintillion 1,000 followed by 21 groups of three zeros
22 duovigintillion 1,000 followed by 22 groups of three zeros
23 trevigintillion 1,000 followed by 23 groups of three zeros
24 quattuorvigintillion 1,000 followed by 24 groups of three zeros
25 quinvigintillion 1,000 followed by 25 groups of three zeros
26 sexvigintillion 1,000 followed by 26 groups of three zeros
27 septenvigintillion 1,000 followed by 27 groups of three zeros
28 octovigintillion 1,000 followed by 28 groups of three zeros
29 novemvigintillion 1,000 followed by 29 groups of three zeros
30 trigintillion 1,000 followed by 30 groups of three zeros
31 untrigintillion 1,000 followed by 31 groups of three zeros
32 duotrigintillion 1,000 followed by 32 groups of three zeros
33 tretrigintillion 1,000 followed by 33 groups of three zeros
34 quattuortrigintillion 1,000 followed by 34 groups of three zeros
35 quintrigintillion 1,000 followed by 35 groups of three zeros
36 sextrigintillion 1,000 followed by 36 groups of three zeros
37 septentrigintillion 1,000 followed by 37 groups of three zeros
38 octotrigintillion 1,000 followed by 38 groups of three zeros
39 novemtrigintillion 1,000 followed by 39 groups of three zeros
40 quadragintillion 1,000 followed by 40 groups of three zeros (quardragintillion?)
41 unquadragintillion 1,000 followed by 41 groups of three zeros
42 duoquadragintillion 1,000 followed by 42 groups of three zeros
43 trequadragintillion 1,000 followed by 43 groups of three zeros
44 quattuorquadragintillion 1,000 followed by 44 groups of three zeros
45 quinquadragintillion 1,000 followed by 45 groups of three zeros
46 sexquadragintillion 1,000 followed by 46 groups of three zeros
47 septenquadragintillion 1,000 followed by 47 groups of three zeros
48 octoquadragintillion 1,000 followed by 48 groups of three zeros
49 novemquadragintillion 1,000 followed by 49 groups of three zeros
50 quinquagintillion 1,000 followed by 50 groups of three zeros
51 unquinquagintillion 1,000 followed by 51 groups of three zeros
52 duoquinquagintillion 1,000 followed by 52 groups of three zeros
53 trequinquagintillion 1,000 followed by 53 groups of three zeros
54 quattuorquinquagintillion 1,000 followed by 54 groups of three zeros
55 quinquinquagintillion 1,000 followed by 55 groups of three zeros
56 sexquinquagintillion 1,000 followed by 56 groups of three zeros
57 septenquinquagintillion 1,000 followed by 57 groups of three zeros
58 octoquinquagintillion 1,000 followed by 58 groups of three zeros
59 novemquinquagintillion 1,000 followed by 59 groups of three zeros
60 sexagintillion 1,000 followed by 60 groups of three zeros
61 unsexagintillion 1,000 followed by 61 groups of three zeros
62 duosexagintillion 1,000 followed by 62 groups of three zeros
63 tresexagintillion 1,000 followed by 63 groups of three zeros
64 quattuorsexagintillion 1,000 followed by 64 groups of three zeros
65 quinsexagintillion 1,000 followed by 65 groups of three zeros
66 sexsexagintillion 1,000 followed by 66 groups of three zeros
67 septensexagintillion 1,000 followed by 67 groups of three zeros
68 octosexagintillion 1,000 followed by 68 groups of three zeros
69 novemsexagintillion 1,000 followed by 69 groups of three zeros
70 septuagintillion 1,000 followed by 70 groups of three zeros
71 unseptuagintillion 1,000 followed by 71 groups of three zeros
72 duoseptuagintillion 1,000 followed by 72 groups of three zeros
73 treseptuagintillion 1,000 followed by 73 groups of three zeros
74 quattuorseptuagintillion 1,000 followed by 74 groups of three zeros
75 quinseptuagintillion 1,000 followed by 75 groups of three zeros
76 sexseptuagintillion 1,000 followed by 76 groups of three zeros
77 septenseptuagintillion 1,000 followed by 77 groups of three zeros
78 octoseptuagintillion 1,000 followed by 78 groups of three zeros
79 novemseptuagintillion 1,000 followed by 79 groups of three zeros
80 octogintillion 1,000 followed by 80 groups of three zeros
81 unoctogintillion 1,000 followed by 81 groups of three zeros
82 duooctogintillion 1,000 followed by 82 groups of three zeros
83 treoctogintillion 1,000 followed by 83 groups of three zeros
84 quattuoroctogintillion 1,000 followed by 84 groups of three zeros
85 quinoctogintillion 1,000 followed by 85 groups of three zeros
86 sexoctogintillion 1,000 followed by 86 groups of three zeros
87 septoctogintillion 1,000 followed by 87 groups of three zeros
88 octooctogintillion 1,000 followed by 88 groups of three zeros
89 novemoctogintillion 1,000 followed by 89 groups of three zeros
90 nonagintillion 1,000 followed by 90 groups of three zeros
91 unnonagintillion 1,000 followed by 91 groups of three zeros
92 duononagintillion 1,000 followed by 92 groups of three zeros
93 trenonagintillion 1,000 followed by 93 groups of three zeros
94 quattuornonagintillion 1,000 followed by 94 groups of three zeros
95 quinnonagintillion 1,000 followed by 95 groups of three zeros
96 sexnonagintillion 1,000 followed by 96 groups of three zeros
97 septennonagintillion 1,000 followed by 97 groups of three zeros
98 octononagintillion 1,000 followed by 98 groups of three zeros
99 novemnonagintillion 1,000 followed by 99 groups of three zeros
100 centillion 1,000 followed by 100 groups of three zeros
One GOOGOL is a ONE followed by 100 zeroes.
One GOOGOLPLEX is a ONE followed by one googol zeroes.
(you can't write a googolplex, even in a million years)

Sorry So long, but do you think this is true?

I know i'm going to get in trouble for having this so long!

[ZebraRampage]

Knowing all of those doesn't mean you're good at math. And to answer your question, I do think they're all real...just never used. Those numbers are so huge that they're not really needed. It is quite interesting, but I bet there are reasons that the numbers are called what they're called.

[GameMaster]

I believe it is true, Crashette.

People who calculate numbers of these size have to have names for them. And I've heard either the term Googol or Googoplex to express the number of moves or outcomes that can occur in a chess game.

I think the search engine, Google, also derived their name from the term.

It's interesting to read though. We could also use the name to express the amount of love for one another?

[Crashette]

Are you trying to hint at something GM?

:wink:

I mean really though, someone had too much time on their hands, I had heard of Google and about that is why they named their website Google but I honestly didn't think that there were names for all those numbers.

[dropCGCF]

I just find it interesting that numbers somewhere in the universe make a googolplex look like a drop of water in an ocean.

Isn't it odd how numbers never end?

[Typhoid]

But then....


whats after a googolplex?


You have to think, if Numbers never end, why are there not a never ending stream of words for the neverending numbers?

[dropCGCF]

But then....


whats after a googolplex?


You have to think, if Numbers never end, why are there not a never ending stream of words for the neverending numbers?


It's called "infinite".

[Typhoid]

It's called "infinite".


Then why stop at "Googolplex"?

Why that one?


Why not stop at Googol? Or Billion? Or Trillion?

[Crash]

This is crashette: Does anyone know if their are any trillionaires in the world, I mean we have people like Bill gates who are billionaires.......

:confused:

[Blackmane]

No, I think the richest person in the world is worth like 100 billion. I think it's the CEO of WalMart

[The Germanator]

This is crashette: Does anyone know if their are any trillionaires in the world, I mean we have people like Bill gates who are billionaires.......

:confused:

Nah, Bill Gates is the richest man in the world and he is only worth 40 Billion or so. Obviously a lot, but the only things that have trillions of dollars are entire countries/governments.

[Jonbo298]

Someday a Googolplex will mean something :p

[KillerGremlin]

It's called "infinite".


Please......inifinity is a concept, not a number. :rolleyes:

For any number with more then 100 consecutive zeros, you would just use scientific notations. 1x10E100 and so forth. Infinity can't be described in terms of numbers, because infinity is a concept, not an actual number. Infinity has a name, it is infinity.

I mean, consider that there are more infinite numbers between 0 and 1 then between 1 and infinity. Crazy stuff.

[dropCGCF]

I mean, consider that there are more infinite numbers between 0 and 1 then between 1 and infinity. Crazy stuff.

There are a set number of definite numbers between 0 and 1.

[Typhoid]

There are a set number of definite numbers between 0 and 1.


No, there isnt.


You can break the decimals down into forever.

No matter how long you go, each number can still be a 9, and it wouldnt technically be a whole number yet.

There are the same amount of numbers inbetween each number, than there are in existance.


I think that made sense. *crosses fingers*

[KillerGremlin]

Yeah, Typhoid has it down. Think about it.

0 and 1
0, .5, 1
0, .5, .25, 1
0, .5, .25, .125, 1

The series goes on infinitely. You can break it down however you want, there is an infinite set of numbers between 0 and 1.

Edit: I'm not sure about the last part of your post though. If I recall, there are more numbers between 0 and 1 then there are between 0 and infinity, but I don't know what type of numbers were being used, ie. real numbers, ect.

I'm going to consult google and get back to this thread.

[GameMaster]

Nah, Bill Gates is the richest man in the world and he is only worth 40 Billion or so. Obviously a lot, but the only things that have trillions of dollars are entire countries/governments.

Last year, a classmate said that the founder/owner of Ikea surpassed Gates wealth. Since he's from Sweden, maybe it comes out to be less when you convert it? :confused:

[KillerGremlin]

Infinity, The Truth About (Real)
What Is It?

In some circumstances, infinity (to be algebraically represented in this article by the letter "I") can be used as a number:

in order to engineer a formula,
to extract and display some theory, or
to fill some empty space on a text book.
However, in most cases, it makes a very bad number, and is mostly used as a concept. The reason for this is that it isn't really a number.

Take the following rules:

Infinity divided by a finite number is infinite (I / f = I);
Any finite number divided by infinity is a number infinitesimally larger than, but never equal to, zero (f / I = 1 / I);
Infinity divided by infinity is one (I / I = 1),
or in fact any other positive number (I / I = and so on...);
Infinity multiplied by zero (no infinity) is zero (I * 0 = 0);
Infinity divided by a positive finite number is infinity (I / +f = I);
Infinity divided by a negative finite number is minus infinity (I / -f = -I);
Infinity divided by zero is not possible;
Infinity plus infinity is infinity (I + I = I);
Zero divided by infinity (nothing divided into infinity) equals zero (0 / I = 0);
Infinity plus a finite number is infinity (I + f = I);
Infinity minus a finite number is infinity (I - f = I); but
Infinity minus infinity, due to the nature of infinity, can be zero, infinity, or minus infinity (I - I = -I, 0, I).
In some of these respects it appears to be a number; it shares some of the same properties. Unfortunately, when you start using it as a number, you experience a few problems. You might be thinking, so why isn't it a number? Well, if it is, then it is each and every imaginable and unimaginable number, while being none of them. If you can define a number, it isn't infinity. Therefore, infinity is not a number.

Perhaps then, it is lots of numbers. Perhaps a variable? Well, this is an interesting point to consider, but again, any number you might apply to infinity, is quite obviously not infinity. It doesn't matter how many numbers you apply to it, if they are numerable, they are not infinity.

Can you calculate it? Well, considering the nature of infinity, no. As soon as you apply a value to infinity, you find that it isn't. Pick a number; you can always add one more.

So what can you use it for? In most cases, people use infinity to replace a number that is so large, they can't be bothered to work it out. Infinity is usually applied to the boundless limits of space, and time. The theory being that if you go far enough in space, you can go further [1], and time is just as bad.

The closest way to experience infinity is to buy an "auto-reverse" tape recorder, fix it to a reliable power source, and never turn it off. Of course, you will never really experience infinity this way, as you will eventually die, the tape will break, the machine will break, or the power source will die [2].

Curiosities
Here follows a couple of examples of how one might happily misuse infinity for their own amusement, cheerfully putting a few rules to one side:

If I + I = I and I + 2 = I
Then I + I = I + 2
So I = I + 2 - I
Then I = 2

But in the same spirit you could also say that:

Since I + 2 = I and I - 4 = I
Then I + 2 = I - 4
So 2 + 4 = 0
Then 2 = -4

Which is completely absurd, and is therefore the basis of most of the most advanced forms of modern creative accounting. In fact, all this proves is that infinity is most definitely not a constant value, and trying to use it as one can cause all manner of problems. Trying to fiddle with the rules of infinity can be hazardous to your health.

http://www.galactic-guide.com/articles/8R69.html

There you go, some insight on infinity. I'm going to get a better source though...

http://www.ping.be/~ping1339/sequences.htm <----super technical site about infinity.

[Seth]

Last year, a classmate said that the founder/owner of Ikea surpassed Gates wealth. Since he's from Sweden, maybe it comes out to be less when you convert it? :confused:

How could he have surpassed billy if it comes out as less when converted? Either he did or didn't. The world market doesn't hinge on the US dollar. anyway, blah




I have a question!!!


How much is the catholic church worth? I'd guess over a trillion with all their real estate and such. But, I've never actually heard a figure put forth so it's all just musing.

[Canyarion]

The Googol is actually less than the centillion. Look at it:
"100 centillion 1,000 followed by 100 groups of three zeros
One GOOGOL is a ONE followed by 100 zeroes."

Centillion is 130 times bigger. :) (1000+100*3=1300 zeroes)

Ofcourse the Googolplex is still the biggest one...

[Yugi Starwind]

wow. that's pretty insightful. i wonder if anything will ever amount to the size of a googolplex. If something does, maybe it'll be something like a nebula or a galazy [/ random guesses]

[DimHalo]

wow. that's pretty insightful. i wonder if anything will ever amount to the size of a googolplex. If something does, maybe it'll be something like a nebula or a galazy [/ random guesses]


Or the United States deficit.

[Dyne]

Last year, a classmate said that the founder/owner of Ikea surpassed Gates wealth. Since he's from Sweden, maybe it comes out to be less when you convert it? :confused:

This is true. But I'm sure it comes out as more when you convert it.

[Crashette]

Or the United States deficit.

Haha ------> Sad but true

[Canyarion]

What, you don't think there are more than a Googolplex atoms?

[Blackmane]

In what, the planet? The galaxy? The universe?

Don't forget how big a googolplex is. A mole of atoms is only 6.626e23


Edit: Some fun tidbits I found out about a googolplex.

If you made a program to hold a googolplex. It would take up about 10e95 megabytes of hard drive space.

If you ran a program to calculate a googolplex with the fastest microprocessors we have, At today's speed, the program will run for 3.125*10^85 years.

Thats big.

[GameMaster]

What, you don't think there are more than a Googolplex atoms?

Of course not. Atoms aren't even real. Just like the googoplex, atoms are a silly concept created by humans who feel uncomfortable if they can't understand and define everything in our world. Numbers are false and so are atoms. You will never be able to unlock or define the secrets of life and the universe. It is beyond us forever.

[KillerGremlin]

Of course not. Atoms aren't even real. Just like the googoplex, atoms are a silly concept created by humans who feel uncomfortable if they can't understand and define everything in our world. Numbers are false and so are atoms. You will never be able to unlock or define the secrets of life and the universe. It is beyond us forever.

Sure. You might as well just melt into nothingness now and never melt back.