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BigJustinW
03-12-2002, 01:20 PM
The scores speak for themselves:

9.0 and Higher
Xbox: 9 (18%)
Gamecube: 5 (15%)

8.0-8.9
Xbox: 19 (28%)
Gamecube: 8 (24%)

7.0-7.9
Xbox: 12 (24%)
Gamecube: 5 (15%)

6.0-6.9
Xbox: 6 (12%)
Gamecube: 6 (18%)

5.0-5.9
Xbox: 3 (6%)
Gamecube: 5 (15%)

4.9 and below
Xbox: 2 (4%)
Gamecube: 3 (9%)

Total Games Reviewed
Xbox:49
Gamecube: 32

(Note, precents are not exact)

I'm glad Nintendo fans stopped saying quality over quantity... because right now Gamecube has neither.
Idiot
03-12-2002, 04:04 PM
And have you ever considerd that these scores do not matter? If you want the most accurate and unbiased opinions, it's EDGE magazine you need, not IGN.

(Idiot then turns his back to BigJustinW and proceeds to run, before BigJustinW finds a sharp instrument to throw at Idiot, because Idiot, as his name implies, is an idiot.)
Drunk Hobbit
03-12-2002, 04:07 PM
And then I go to Gamespot and almost every Xbox game is under 6.0. I don't go by online reviewers anymore...at least not their scores.
Gamer
03-12-2002, 05:30 PM
I dont go, to often, by online reviewers either anymore, they are usually alot more generous with their scores toward a certain system.
Heyyoudvd
03-12-2002, 10:39 PM
I really don't care what IGN says. They're so pro-Xbox, it's ridiculous.

They gave 9.0+ to DOA3, JSRF, Raw, and Wreckless. That automatically shows how moronic they are. These games are all average.

Also, SSX Tricky on Xbox got 9, while the Gamecube version got only 7.9. That's more than a full point difference, even thought eh games are nearly identical!
Xantar
03-12-2002, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Danchastu
And then I go to Gamespot and almost every Xbox game is under 6.0. I don't go by online reviewers anymore...at least not their scores.

I would actually bet that GameSpot still gave more high scores to Xbox games than to GameCube games. Never mind that they gave DOA3 a 7.9 or somthing like that. They have also given Xbox games higher scores than IGN did. Contrary to what some people think, I don't believe either site is really all that biased.

So let's make this simple. Does Xbox have more games right now than GameCube does? Yes. That's just objective truth.

Does Xbox have more high quality games than GameCube? I think probably so (though admittedly I don't own either console. But I've been reading what reviewers say, not just their scores).

I would caution people against drawing any conclusions from this. Both consoles still aren't very old, and their current lineup of games isn't really indicative of how they are going to do in years to come. If the first few months really meant anything, the N64 would have been the second greatest console ever.
Heyyoudvd
03-13-2002, 08:48 AM
In the first few months, all N64 had was Mario 64, Pilotwings, Mario Kart 64, Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey, and a few more.

Later on, it became great, with game like GE, PD, Zelda Oot, Zelda MM, Paper Mario, Conker, Bajo Kazooie/Tooie etc...
Joeiss
03-13-2002, 10:03 AM
Meh. I do not think that anyone of here has played all the games that IGN reviewed, so we shouldn't just rely on other people's opinions. But, I think that online sites such as IGN and Gamespot are really good for giving a ball park figure on what they game is like. Think about it, it a gameis over 7 at a review site, you might as well try it out if the game looks interesting. And hell, even if games get under 5 and still look interesting to you, might as well give it a rent.
BigJustinW
03-13-2002, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Xantar


I would actually bet that GameSpot still gave more high scores to Xbox games than to GameCube games. Never mind that they gave DOA3 a 7.9 or somthing like that. They have also given Xbox games higher scores than IGN did. Contrary to what some people think, I don't believe either site is really all that biased.

So let's make this simple. Does Xbox have more games right now than GameCube does? Yes. That's just objective truth.

Does Xbox have more high quality games than GameCube? I think probably so (though admittedly I don't own either console. But I've been reading what reviewers say, not just their scores).

I would caution people against drawing any conclusions from this. Both consoles still aren't very old, and their current lineup of games isn't really indicative of how they are going to do in years to come. If the first few months really meant anything, the N64 would have been the second greatest console ever.

I basically agree with what you said...

As for the other posts...

Nintendo fans never seem to suprise me. About a year ago, when IGN was giving Ps2 bad scores, and Gamespot was giving Ps2 decent scores, nobody here paid any attentiod to Gamespot... AND when IGN was giving N64 good scores, but EGM, Next-Gen, and Gamespot were holding back, IGN was getting a lot more respect in the forums...

Maybe these scores show nothing.... then again, maybe these scores show everything....
DeathsHand
03-13-2002, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Xantar

Contrary to what some people think, I don't believe either site is really all that biased.

Same... it seems like nowadays it seems like people think that if you disagree with reviews, then the site is biased... it's just an opinion! If the guy didn't like the game he didn't like the game...

Not to mention like recently in one of the gamespotting articles on gamespot, there was this thing about how many people on Xbox forums said that they seem to have something against Xbox or something... and they compared the average reviews from various games to their scores, and their scores were usually very close to the average score and sometimes a little higher... of course sometimes it was a little lower, but still it was pretty close...

I don't get why so many people consider gamespot and stuff biased :unsure:

Anyways... Comparing IGN's reviews aren't really fair... the IGN guys have even said that before, I think... or at least other sites have... different people, different opinions, some people are tougher on scores, some people are a bit too generous, etc etc...

But right now I wouldn't find it surprising if Xbox did have more good games than NGC since it has more games overall... And like with PS2 or PSX, sure you get more crap games, but with more developers and stuff, you usually also get more good games... Unless you ONLY have those little crappy developers, which doesn't happen ;)

Same thing goes for NGC... When it comes to any form of entertainment... videogames, movies, TV, etc, a majority of them are crap... So with NGC, they have a fairly small selection of games, and there are only a few really good games, but there's less crap to dig through...

With Xbox you have more games overall, more good games, and more crap to dig through...

I personally don't mind having a ton of crap games on a system... just don't buy them... if it sucks, don't buy it, if the show is boring or stupid, don't watch it, if the movie looks retarded, don't see it... Sure sometimes things can be deceiving and look bad and end up good or look good or end up bad, but that's what reviews are for... not to base your decisions 100% on, but if you think a game looks good and gets great reviews, buy it... if it looks bad and gets bad reviews, don't buy it... and if it looks good and gets bad reviews or looks bad and gets good reviews, you might wanna give it a rent or something...

yep...
BigJustinW
03-13-2002, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by DeathsHand
Same thing goes for NGC... When it comes to any form of entertainment... videogames, movies, TV, etc, a majority of them are crap... So with NGC, they have a fairly small selection of games, and there are only a few really good games, but there's less crap to dig through...

With Xbox you have more games overall, more good games, and more crap to dig through...

*looks at scores again*

GCN has more games total under 7.0, Xbox has more games total over 7.0

maybe the scores show nothing, or maybe they show everything...
DeathsHand
03-13-2002, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by BigJustinW


*looks at scores again*

GCN has more games total under 7.0, Xbox has more games total over 7.0

maybe the scores show nothing, or maybe they show everything...

Maybe they show that the Xbox guys are rating their games too high... or NGC guys rating their games too low (although I doubt that ;) )...

Maybe it shows that the people have different standards...

Or maybe it shows that Xbox truly has THAT many more good games than NGC...

Maybe it shows a lot of different things ;)
BigJustinW
03-13-2002, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Heyyoudvd

Also, SSX Tricky on Xbox got 9, while the Gamecube version got only 7.9. That's more than a full point difference, even thought eh games are nearly identical!

Maybe because Gamecube's version has 7 Buttons, and it's cut back on half or the tricks, and maybe because it's gameplay scheme is all around different from the Ps2 version...
BigJustinW
03-13-2002, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by DeathsHand


Maybe they show that the Xbox guys are rating their games too high... or NGC guys rating their games too low (although I doubt that ;) )...

Maybe it shows that the people have different standards...

Or maybe it shows that Xbox truly has THAT many more good games than NGC...

Maybe it shows a lot of different things ;)

Maybe it shows shows nothing, or maybe, just maybe, it shows everything...

In my personal opinion, if I didn't own a Ps2, there would be a lot more games I'd be buying on Xbox than GCN.... hell, even though I do own a Ps2 I'd buy more games on Xbox...
BigJustinW
03-13-2002, 12:29 PM
Here are Gamespots:

9.0 & Higher:
Xbox: 5 (10%)
Gamecube: 3 (9%)

8.0 - 8.9:
Xbox: 10 (20%)
Gamecube: 11 (33%)

7.0 - 7.9:
Xbox: 16 (32%)
Gamecube: 5 (15%)

6.0 - 6.9:
Xbox: 13 (26%)
Gamecube: 6 (18%)

5.0 - 5.9:
Xbox: 3 (6%)
Gamecube: 2 (6%)

4.9 and below:
Xbox: 6 (12%)
Gamecube: 5 (15%)

Total Games reviewed:
Xbox: 53
Gamecube: 32
BigJustinW
03-13-2002, 12:39 PM
Combined stats:

9.0 and Higher
Xbox: 14 (14%)
Gamecube: 8 (12%)

8.0-8.9
Xbox: 29 (29%)
Gamecube: 19 (29%)

7.0-7.9
Xbox: 28 (28%)
Gamecube: 10 (15%)

6.0-6.9
Xbox: 19 (19%)
Gamecube: 12 (18%)

5.0-5.9
Xbox: 6 (6%)
Gamecube: 7 (11%)

4.9 and below
Xbox: 8 (8%)
Gamecube: 8 (12%)

Total Games Reviewed
Xbox:102
Gamecube: 64

PS. Sorry for all the consecutive posts
travvandamage
03-13-2002, 01:42 PM
GamCube 0wnz x-box and it's mother. X-Box's controller is bulky and uncomftorble and I don't care what anyone says, I just won't get used to that thing and GC's controller is like the best one available along side ps2's.

X-Box it self fits the controller great cause its big loud and bulky and GC is the smallest one out there and very portable and especialy considering the monitor add on that makes it portable.

X-Box and i ts games and accessories are over priced and you can call me cheap if you want or whatever but money dosn't grow on a tree in my backyard and I quite frankly don't wanna shell out $300 bucks for the system and its games and controllers when I can get GC for a lot less and especialy considering that GC's games blow X-Box into the next universe.

You can say what you want but I still say X-Box is a comuter that hooks to your tv and GC is a pure video game system which is what I look for when I wanna buy a video game system.........Anyway GC is better period.
Xantar
03-13-2002, 02:18 PM
Hey, Justin, do you want to take him, or should I come up with the counter arguments?

(good grief, BigJustinW and I have been doing nothing but agreeing with each other yesterday and today. If this keeps up, my reputation is ruined!)
BreakABone
03-13-2002, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by BigJustinW


I basically agree with what you said...

As for the other posts...

Nintendo fans never seem to suprise me. About a year ago, when IGN was giving Ps2 bad scores, and Gamespot was giving Ps2 decent scores, nobody here paid any attentiod to Gamespot... AND when IGN was giving N64 good scores, but EGM, Next-Gen, and Gamespot were holding back, IGN was getting a lot more respect in the forums...

Maybe these scores show nothing.... then again, maybe these scores show everything....

Well I would have to agree with you on this issue. I mean I've seen so many complaints against mags/sites being biase because they don't give the scores people want.

I myself know that all reviews are based on opinions. The fact is "too each his own". Not everyone has the same taste and not everyone has the same criteria.

As for the GC and X-Box review scores, I personally believe the Cube has a rather decent line up, but nothing great while the X-Box has a better overall one.

I guess we will do this again in the summer or end of spring. Maybe a post seasonal thread.
BigJustinW
03-13-2002, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by travvandamage
GamCube 0wnz x-box and it's mother. X-Box's controller is bulky and uncomftorble and I don't care what anyone says, I just won't get used to that thing and GC's controller is like the best one available along side ps2's.

X-Box it self fits the controller great cause its big loud and bulky and GC is the smallest one out there and very portable and especialy considering the monitor add on that makes it portable.

X-Box and i ts games and accessories are over priced and you can call me cheap if you want or whatever but money dosn't grow on a tree in my backyard and I quite frankly don't wanna shell out $300 bucks for the system and its games and controllers when I can get GC for a lot less and especialy considering that GC's games blow X-Box into the next universe.

You can say what you want but I still say X-Box is a comuter that hooks to your tv and GC is a pure video game system which is what I look for when I wanna buy a video game system.........Anyway GC is better period.

Well...

that's your opinion...

In my, and many other people's opinion Xbox has better games than GCN... If GCN blows Xbox out so bad in quality, why isn't it selling better? Both systems launched at the same time, and had equal oppritunity... AND Nintendo has a brand name advantage over Microsoft... AND Nintendo has a Price advantage over Microsoft... yet it hasn't sold more, what's wrong with this picture?

I don't care if you like GCN better... but don't act like Xbox is crap, because it isn't.
Heyyoudvd
03-13-2002, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by BigJustinW


Well...

that's your opinion...

In my, and many other people's opinion Xbox has better games than GCN... If GCN blows Xbox out so bad in quality, why isn't it selling better? Both systems launched at the same time, and had equal oppritunity... AND Nintendo has a brand name advantage over Microsoft... AND Nintendo has a Price advantage over Microsoft... yet it hasn't sold more, what's wrong with this picture?

I don't care if you like GCN better... but don't act like Xbox is crap, because it isn't.

I also disagree with travvandamage, but saying that Xbox has sold so many consoles, isn't a valid reason to being good. Although I agree that's it's a good console, by your logic, Britney Spears must be a great musician since she's sold so many records.

BTW, I think it's about time you change that pic. It's quite obsolete now that Triple H and Steph wanna kill each other.
BigJustinW
03-14-2002, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by Heyyoudvd


BTW, I think it's about time you change that pic. It's quite obsolete now that Triple H and Steph wanna kill each other.

LOL, I know huh... I'll ride this ava til WMX8
travvandamage
03-14-2002, 03:14 PM
Actually cube sold better then x-box from what I heard.........I don't know where you got your news from.
BigJustinW
03-14-2002, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by travvandamage
Actually cube sold better then x-box from what I heard.........I don't know where you got your news from.

IGN, Gamespot, EGM, Next-Gen.... or wherever you need to look...

In North Ameica... where Xbox and Gamecube has had equal time to hack the market, Xbox has a lead.
BreakABone
03-14-2002, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by BigJustinW


IGN, Gamespot, EGM, Next-Gen.... or wherever you need to look...

In North Ameica... where Xbox and Gamecube has had equal time to hack the market, Xbox has a lead.

Hmm well just for the record.. X-Box had a 3 day lead.. nothing big.. and also it's only a 100k console difference in the USA.. and now that X-Box has been released in 3 territories..

Well it's officially in 3rd place world wide
Yoda9864
03-21-2002, 11:03 PM
Whatever anyone says, every site is a little biased towards some system, it is nearly impossible for someone to rate games non-biasedly (yes, I know that's not a word). I just take scores from like 10 different sites and average them. Plus you gotta read the actual reviews to know what the game's about.
fingersman
03-24-2002, 01:05 PM
Justin is a XBOX FANBOY :p j/k

Sorry I just wanted to get in the thread and say something and sicne Xantar, Justin and almost everyone in the thread basically took my ideas...........I couldn't think of anything else to say except that. :D
Blix
03-25-2002, 12:33 PM
Well, I don't normally go to IGN or Gamespot or any of those websites for reviews. I go to gamefaqs.com do a search for the game I want and read peoples reviews, were they are varied. Then you can see all the good things and bad things about a game. And anyway, like DH said the more games there are on a system the more crapy and good games there are going to be. Peroid. Reviews are not the botto line.