RE:4 Flops hard

[Crash]

just kidding, gets a 9.8 from IGN.... oh man this is a must buy even for people who have never played a resident evil.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/577/577841p3.html :(

[Canyarion]

Is there an option to turn the gore off??

[Dark Samurai]

Is there an option to turn the gore off??


You MUST be kidding...

[Seth]

Angrist, are you sure you shouldn't reconsider playing the game if you're worried about gore? I mean, how much can the lack of polygonal blood change the scope of the game for you? You're still killing people/zombies.

just a thought.

[Jonbo298]

Nice score. Makes me wonder how the PS2 version will turn out now :unsure: Hopefully its not too different from what it is right now for the 'Cube.

I wonder how shall I get this game. hmmm

[DeathsHand]

So in a time when people were saying the survival horror genre was becoming quite a bit thin (well, I don't agree but I've heard many people say that), IGN calls RE4 the "Best Survival Horror game ever made"? Brilliant!

Can't wait to play it...

I wanna see why the hell Ada is still there... I wonder if they'll actually explain it like they explained how Wesker was still alive in RE:CV ;o

[GameMaster]

It's so nice to see a game score so well. I'd love to see graphics.

[KillerGremlin]

Crash, you bastard! You tricked me there with your somewhat misleading thread title. =/

Oh well.

I plan to get the Gamecube version, because of the Gamecube's graphic capability.

[Ginkasa]

Okay, so I want to play this game, but I've never (fully) played any other RE, and with the control scheme they have (much less the save system, ugh) I probably never will.

But I have to have the games stories, or I will feel completely wrong when playing RE4 (never mind if it'll make sense or not; it just will feel wrong [my mom thinks I'm obssesive compulsive]). So, I thought, "I could read the novels!" But I didn't want to go and spend money on them (and distract me from other, better stuff) if they absolutely sucked or had nothing to do with the games.

So what I'm asking is, are the novels worth it? Would I be able to read those instead of playing the games, and still get the whole story? Or are they poo? Are they worth buying, or will a library work (I've actually seen them there...)?


*shrugs and walks away*

[Dyne]

Great. I just put my preorder down.

This will be the first RE game I play.

[DeathsHand]

Okay, so I want to play this game, but I've never (fully) played any other RE, and with the control scheme they have (much less the save system, ugh) I probably never will.

But I have to have the games stories, or I will feel completely wrong when playing RE4 (never mind if it'll make sense or not; it just will feel wrong [my mom thinks I'm obssesive compulsive]). So, I thought, "I could read the novels!" But I didn't want to go and spend money on them (and distract me from other, better stuff) if they absolutely sucked or had nothing to do with the games.

So what I'm asking is, are the novels worth it? Would I be able to read those instead of playing the games, and still get the whole story? Or are they poo? Are they worth buying, or will a library work (I've actually seen them there...)?


*shrugs and walks away*

I didn't even know there were novels...

I suggest just going to gamefaqs and reading plot guides... They say what's goin down and they're free... :D :D :D

[Ginkasa]

But boring, and very rarely written very well.


*shrugs and walks away*

[Jason1]

I plan to get the Gamecube version, because of the Gamecube's graphic capability.


That and it wont come out for PS2 for at least 9 more months...

Anyways. Im impressed it scored that high. Looks like it plays as well as it scored. I think I'll read through the whole thing now...

[BlueFire]

lol, Crash tricked me. I've been waiting for this game for a while. Wonder how I shall get it. Heh

[Professor S]

Wow, I never thought I'd say this again, but... I want to play a Resident Evil game again. I haven't said that in over 5 years since RE 2.

Time to start saving the pennies...

[Crono]

I was only going to rent this game until I read the review... now I think I'll buy it.

[Stray_Bullet]

I was only going to rent this game until I read the review... now I think I'll buy it.

I second that.

[Stonecutter]

Wow, even with the IGN filter turned on, that's still like what? A 9.1?

[Typhoid]

This game looks horrible gorgeous.

Me likey!

I havent really been into any other RE game before....I dont know....I dont think I'll buy it, because this isnt really my type of swag, but I'll give it a rent probibbably.

[Crash]

ps2 version = sux

Series creator Shinji Mikami isn't happy with the PS2 port for RE4 and by the sounds of things his discontent is only the beginning of Capcoms woes.

The creator of the Resident Evil series, Mr. Shinji Mikami, is said to be extremely disheartened and annoyed with the decision to port Resident Evil 4 to the PlayStation 2, a game which, for a long period of time, was meant to be an exclusive title for the GameCube. Mikami in fact has said that he will take no part in the PS2 version and will take up his new position at Clover Studios once the GameCube version is completed.

It has also been confirmed somewhat that the reason behind the port of RE4 was not due to them, "listening to the voices of gamers across the world." Rather, as expected, it was because of the Capcom board wanting to increase company stock value. A decision echoed by feelings in the Capcom ranks that the development teams are loosing their voice and too many decisions are being made by executives or as they say, the men up top who have very little, or no dealings, with the work at ground level.

It appears that Mikami hurrying up his departure from the RE team is only the tip of the iceberg. Many other experienced staff at Capcom are set to leave the company once Resident Evil 4 is finished development, including ex-big wig himself, Mr. Okamoto.

Simply put the question needs to be asked, "Is Capcom becoming to greedy?"

Resident Evil 4 for the GameCube is currently set to hit North American retail on January 11.

[Jason1]

Intersting...Very Intersting.

God I hope it sells well for Gamecube....I honestly dont think it will, but im Praying.

[DarkMaster]

ps2 version = sux
The ps2 version sucks because Makami is pissed?

[BlueFire]

I'm hoping it sells well not because I want Nintendo to excel, but I want it to sell because Capcom put a lot of their effort in it.

[Dyne]

ps2 version = sux

I saw a commercial with an "Only For" logo on the RE4 box.

I seriously frown upon anyone who waits for a PS2 version. I think it would sell like Viewtiful Joe 2.

[Jason1]

I'm hoping it sells well not because I want Nintendo to excel, but I want it to sell because Capcom put a lot of their effort in it.


Same here. I mean I could care less if a ****ty game sells or not, buts its sad when a game like this Or Eternal Darkness sell poorly. Because they should sell so much better.

[Jonbo298]

Just got my GMR today. RE4 got a 10/10 :D

[DeathsHand]

I don't think anybody's mentioned this yet...

9.6 from Gamespot...

My guess is nobody's brought it up because the only time anybody brings up a score of theirs is when it's lower than most others, giving them reason to bitch about how gamespot gives lower scores to be kewl, or they hate gamecube...

:sneaky:

I'm hoping to pick up a copy tomorrow... If the stores get it in yet... But I just started playing MGS3 so >_<

OH and another thing, the reviews make the gameplay sound great, but they also make it sound like they turned the game into a crazy action game and threw the story out the window aside from a short cutscene here and there to keep things on track...

Which could be either a good or a bad thing, I guess I'll have to play it to decide which... *strokes beard*

[bobcat]

I like RE, but haven't played all of the others.

I will have to pick this one up. Do you need to know about previous RE's before playing this one?

[TheSlyMoogle]

I like RE, but haven't played all of the others.

I will have to pick this one up. Do you need to know about previous RE's before playing this one?


Uh... Well...

Let's see, I've played 1 & 2, watched someone beat three and zero, and played most of Code Veronica. I think you might just want to read a story FAQ or something like that, to maybe get the generalized idea of the story and junk. You probably wont get some of the little things in the game, some of the connections. Oh well.

I'm super Psyched about RE 4 and I seriously can't wait! It comes out today. How awesome!

[Dark Samurai]

Man I gotta wait until Thursday to get it... but from then on... ;)

[Dyne]

I've got it in my hands right now.

Well, not actually IN my hands, otherwise I wouldn't be typing this right now.

But I can't wait to play it.

[DeathsHand]

The game is mine! MIIIIINE!!... I havn't started playing it yet though, but I'm about to... Impressions shall follow shortly...

[DeathsHand]

I have about 3 and a half hours of play time on the clock...

First off there's a nice little (brief) recap of the major events of RE1, 2, and 3 at the beginning... Although it doesn't go into too much detail...

So yeah the game is good... The stiff behind the back camera took a little getting used to, but once I did it started to look quite nice...

Another thing is it just feels like you should be able to sidestep, but you can't...

The reviews made it sound like they skipped on the story in favor of the action, however to me there seems to be about as much story development throughout the game as there was in the past games... So that's a relief, I'm just still hoping for some tie-in to past RE games other than Leon and Ada's presence...

So like yeah... I'm sure IGN and Gamespot's pretty scoring system is more convincing, but like buy it and stuff...

[Dyne]

Oh, HOT.

I played it for 6 hours straight before stopping. All I should say is, this game is well worth the money. It's so SWEETT. SWEET ASS SWEET.


:D

[thatmariolover]

Yeah. I'm totally pumped. I played it for five hours last night, and I gotta say, it's one of the most enjoyable games I've played in a while (and that's including Half-Life 2, Halo 2, MGS3).

And the graphics? Oh, man. I can't even get over them. They're absolutely gorgeous. I can hardly wait to get further into the game to see what happens.

[Dyne]

How far are you now?

P.S. Anyone playing this game for the first time -- when you get to a gate that you open with a switch, please take the left gate. It saves headaches, trust me.

[Crash]

man, everything i've read about the game says it is the best game on the cube... now that's saying something. they say its' game of the year material. perfect 10's better than halo 2 (not hard to do) etc.... i must pick it up... if only to make sure 3rd parties know their games can sell on a nintendo system.

[Dyne]

This is a really good game, but I couldn't see myself buying a Gamecube. But then again, it is dirt cheap.

Needless to say, it's addicting. I'll probably go home today and not even look at my homework. I gotta get across that lift!

[DeathsHand]

This is a really good game, but I couldn't see myself buying a Gamecube. But then again, it is dirt cheap.

Needless to say, it's addicting. I'll probably go home today and not even look at my homework. I gotta get across that lift!

That was like the most frustrating part I'd run into so far... Maybe the shotgun would be the best choice (I guess the spray would be enough to knock em off balance and over the railing), but I figured hey, rifle = best aiming in the game!... But the reload is so slow there's no way to kill them all and not get hit at least once...

Then the battle that takes place on the other side = frustrating...

But wait, you're telling me that (from your first report) you hit the 6 hour mark, but weren't even across the lift? I'm at 5 hours 2 minutes... And I'm a short ways past it...

And that's with me taking my time, being all dramatic and walking around, aiming first when I turn corners, etc because it just looks so damn cool...

[Dyne]

That was like the most frustrating part I'd run into so far... Maybe the shotgun would be the best choice (I guess the spray would be enough to knock em off balance and over the railing), but I figured hey, rifle = best aiming in the game!... But the reload is so slow there's no way to kill them all and not get hit at least once...

Then the battle that takes place on the other side = frustrating...

But wait, you're telling me that (from your first report) you hit the 6 hour mark, but weren't even across the lift? I'm at 5 hours 2 minutes... And I'm a short ways past it...

And that's with me taking my time, being all dramatic and walking around, aiming first when I turn corners, etc because it just looks so damn cool...

Nah, I just left it on for 6 hours. I had dinner, computer time.. I felt pretty involved so I just left it on.

[Dark Samurai]

Yes!!! Im going to the mall today!!! Whoo!

[Canyarion]

Hehe, DeathsHand and his need to act cool even in games... :)

But I agree, it DOES look cooler that way.

Like in World of Warcraft, it's just fun to laugh at people, cry, dance etc. etc... Even though it has no gameplay use.

[DeathsHand]

Hehe, DeathsHand and his need to act cool even in games... :)

But I agree, it DOES look cooler that way.

Like in World of Warcraft, it's just fun to laugh at people, cry, dance etc. etc... Even though it has no gameplay use.

The Warcraft dances rock! Woooo!... Except for the Night Elf Female dance, it's just lame and skanky...

I played it for 6 hours straight before stopping.

Nah, I just left it on for 6 hours. I had dinner, computer time.. I felt pretty involved so I just left it on.

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have a Capcom spy, sent here to over-hype the length of the game...

[Canyarion]

What?? You don't like the Female Night Elf dance? :wtf:
Hehe :p

The Tauren one is super funny, but gets boring pretty fast...

Oh wait, RE4. :sneaky: Nice graphics.

[Dyne]

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have a Capcom spy, sent here to over-hype the length of the game...

Hah!

[The Duggler]

The game is pure greatness.

GOTY 2005 if it was not for Zelda.

[Ginkasa]

Oh come on, I'm the resident Zelda fanboy and even I'm not going to call Zelda GOTY before its released (or anyone besides the development team plays it for that matter).

Besides, there is the possibility that it won't be released outside of Japan until '06.


*shrugs and walks away*

[Dark Samurai]

Got the game yesterday... played for 3 hours... and got a nightmare about the lake monster boss, hard as hell... and hell is an understatement (sp?) and those graphics :drool: pure goodness

[DeathsHand]

I beated it today... *nods*... 15 or so hours I believe... 73% or so accuracy... Enemies killed... A lot...

I died like 40 something times, which has gotta be the most I've ever died in an RE game... But that's because there were some parts that were just too much trial and error...

And my vote for most annoying cutscene ever (without ruining anything): Knife fight!

[thatmariolover]

I think Dyne asked where I was. Sorry, I missed the post.

Don't read between the lines unless you think you're further than me (5h 45m into the game).

_________________________________________________
As of 5h and 45m into the game I just met up with Ada.
_________________________________________________

I think I'm pretty far considering how hard I've been looking for everything.

[DeathsHand]

I gotsd a question for you guys...

What weapons are you using? Do you buy the newer model guns (riot gun in place of shotgun, etc) or just stick with the ones you have and upgrade?

I heard people on the IGN forums talking about how much awesomer the newer models are, however up until the very end the only guns I had were:

Punisher Handgun
Plain ol' Shotgun
Plain ol' Rifle

None of which I completely maxed out...

Then right near the end of the game I bought the broken butterfly to make EZ Cheez of the various bosses...

Oh yeah and now that I think back on it, the Resident Evil 4 storyline was way totally dissapointing... IMO the thing the story in this game did best was set up for a sequel...

The story just kinda felt like "Here's some weird random crap, but we'll tease you tidbits of info that make it seem like RE5 will actually tie in to the RE storyline somehow... WELP GAME'S OVER HOPE YA HAD FUN!"

[The Duggler]

you don't have the mine thrower, blacktail (handgun) and semi auto riffle? There's a lot more too.

[DeathsHand]

you don't have the mine thrower, blacktail (handgun) and semi auto riffle? There's a lot more too.

Yeah I know there was a lot more... But I was pressed for space (I actually completely forgot there was a second case upgrade available, so I was running on the first upgrade you can get up until the third became available near the end) and spent more of my money on upgrading my older guns rather than buying new ones and having to spend money upgrading them...

I also didn't know you could combine certain gems with other bits of treasure to up the value of the whole package...

But hey, it worked... I had plenty of handgun bullets up until the time I didn't need my punisher anymore, my shotgun was more than enough to take out mobs of enemies, my rifle of course was awesome (sniping always is) for early boss fights and a bit more, and then the magnum at the end kicked ass...

As I side note, I also got all the bottlecaps... which really wasn't that hard to do... And I annoyed my friend with them...

"Leon, now!... Leon Leon now! L L L L Leon Leon now Leon now!"

[Dyne]

Hmm, I've just been upgrading my guns too. However, I think I could sell my upgraded shotgun and buy the Riot Rifle with pockets of change to spare. I think I will.

I got to the ......... (spoilers!)

Castle.

It's really really frustrating for some reason. But maybe it's just because I had Kahlua earlier.

[thatmariolover]

Yeah, I'm not sure how far I am. What's the second disc for? Is there a lot more of the game on it? Because I'm still on the first.

[DeathsHand]

Yeah, I'm not sure how far I am. What's the second disc for? Is there a lot more of the game on it? Because I'm still on the first.

I can't remember exactly where it switched, but MOST of the game is on the first disc...

Although it's not as bad as the RE remake where 90% of the game was on disc 1, and only the last laboratory area was on the second...

[TheSlyMoogle]

I just got the game yesterday, and just beat the first part of chapter 1 I think. It's pretty freaking hard, but the controls are much nicer.

[DeathsHand]

I just got the game yesterday, and just beat the first part of chapter 1 I think. It's pretty freaking hard, but the controls are much nicer.

But aside from the aiming, the controls are exactly the same... :p

It's amazing what a simple camera angle change can do...

[TheSlyMoogle]

But aside from the aiming, the controls are exactly the same... :p

It's amazing what a simple camera angle change can do...


They feel different though. I don't hate moving around, and I'm not getting my ass kicked by a singular zombie because I can't get away fast enough. I'm getting my ass kicked by a hoarde of intelligent zombie/people things. The AI is great in this game!

[Dark Samurai]

Just beat the game last night at 1:00 in the morning... pretty easy last boss if you know what to do...

[DeathsHand]

The AI is great in this game!

When you're in a house and they're coming in from all different angles, yes... Compared to zombies they're much smarter...

However, I think it's pretty dern silly that they RUN QUITE FAST until about 5 feet in front of you where they proceed to kinda stare at you as they slowly move towards you like zombies... Sometimes they don't even walk towards you, they sorta walk around you just waiting to be shot...

Although apparently on the hard mode unlocked by beating the game, they just keep on running...

[Crash]

heh, just picked up the game today... so far so good. the progressive and 5.1 rock hard.... it's especially cool if you have a transucer like I do... scary (I've never played a resident evil game)

when I first got to the village, I didn't know what all I could do (get in house, block doors barracade windows etc... ) so I just ran around blowing people up... now that I know I can block doors and stuff... should make for a better gaming experience

Is it just me or are all the villagers speaking Spanish? Is this spain i start in?

[thatmariolover]

Is it just me or are all the villagers speaking Spanish? Is this spain i start in?

I'm not sure if it's Spain or not, but you're in Europe and they speak Spanish throughout the whole game. So I'd say it's a safe bet it's in Spain.

[Typhoid]

*Reads the title "Flops Hard"*

*Giggles heavily*

[Crash]

Just started chapter... 3 I think ....the one in the house

My head keeps getting chopped off by the chainsaw guy (who doesn't die with one shot gun blast anymore, even though I upgraded everything on the shotty...

The game is too damn cool... the sniper rifle is nice

[Dyne]

Crap, I haven't played this game in so long. I got to the castle and have given up for a while. (After 5 tries.)

What exactly are you supposed to do there, anyways?

[DeathsHand]

Crap, I haven't played this game in so long. I got to the castle and have given up for a while. (After 5 tries.)

What exactly are you supposed to do there, anyways?

Well it depends on where in the castle you are... There's a bunch of different things to do in different parts...

One thing you're supposed to do is kill things and not die... Avoid being hit by maces if possible... If an enemy picks Ashley up and starts to walk away with her, it's a great idea to pull out your handgun and shoot that sucker in the leg...

The enemy, not Ashley...

[The Duggler]

Getting stuck in RE4 is very hard to do.

[thatmariolover]

Just look at your map and follow the little red destination marker.

Anyway, I beat it tonight for the first time. I clocked in at 13 hours and 30 minutes, although that does include leaving it running for a little while. But I went through pretty fast all things considered. I definitely looked for secrets, but I still felt like it was fast.

[Crash]

Just look at your map and follow the little red destination marker.

Anyway, I beat it tonight for the first time. I clocked in at 13 hours and 30 minutes, although that does include leaving it running for a little while. But I went through pretty fast all things considered. I definitely looked for secrets, but I still felt like it was fast.

that's funny, gamepro said "if there was one thing wrong with the game, it was that it was too long"

I HATE GAMEPRO.. they suck hardcore (they gave mario party 6 a better score than RE:4)


anyways, I just beat El Gigante ... heh that wuss, shot him in the face with a rocket, and he was toast...

but for fun, I reloaded, and played him with the "small" guns, and he definately stomped my ass....

[Jonbo298]

People still read Gamepro? Poor poor souls :(

[DeathsHand]

anyways, I just beat El Gigante ... heh that wuss, shot him in the face with a rocket, and he was toast...

He's pretty damn easy if you freed the dog in the beginning of the game (leg caught in bear trap) and you know what to do once he falls down to the ground and that thing pops out of his head...

[Crash]

He's pretty damn easy if you freed the dog in the beginning of the game (leg caught in bear trap) and you know what to do once he falls down to the ground and that thing pops out of his head...

heh, I shot that dog...

later my g/f said i shouldn't have done that.. but I was thinking he was going to bite me LOL

[DeathsHand]

heh, I shot that dog...

later my g/f said i shouldn't have done that.. but I was thinking he was going to bite me LOL

You awful, awful man!...

Well do you at least know about the parasite thing that pops out of it's head? When it falls down, run up to it and press A, then pound away at either B or A (it changes, hit the wrong one and he funks you up) and you'll slash it with your knife...

Do it twice and the thing's dead...

Easy as pie... well maybe not pie, but easier than you'd think it'd be to kill something that big...

[Jason1]

Man, what an enjoyable game. I died a few times getting used to the controls, but once I did, they became second nature. Im not very far in at all, but ive been fully impressed with what ive played so far. Presentation is absolutley top-notch. Im using the zoom function on my Panasonic 53 inch widescreen television, and the game looks stellar. I cant wait to play further.

[MuGen]

that's funny, gamepro said "if there was one thing wrong with the game, it was that it was too long"

I HATE GAMEPRO.. they suck hardcore (they gave mario party 6 a better score than RE:4)


anyways, I just beat El Gigante ... heh that wuss, shot him in the face with a rocket, and he was toast...

but for fun, I reloaded, and played him with the "small" guns, and he definately stomped my ass....

You either used Action Replay for that Rocket Launcher or you looted the whole damn island..... wait... nvm I'm thinking about the Infinite Rocket launcher (i.e. 1,000,000 gold)

[Crash]

helllllppp.... i'm in the cabin (about 6 hours in) and I keep getting my ass handed to me because all I have if the red 9... (and i leave the other dude to fend for himself downstairs... tips on beating this would be greatly appreciated !

here are some translations of the villagers:


When Leon enters the first house and shows the man the picture, he says this:
¿Qué carajo estás haciendo aquí? Lárgate cabrón.
Which means:
What the f*ck are you doing here? Get the hell out of here mother f*cker.

After entering Cabin #3, villagers can be heard saying:
¡Abre la puerta!
Which means:
Open the door!

Vallan por detrás.
Which means:
Go from behind.

And of course, after the bell rings, during the cutscene, the villagers say:
La campana
Which means:
The bell

Es hora de rezar
Which means:
It's time to pray

Tenemos que irnos
Which means:
We have to go

-----Random Villager Dialogue-----

¡Te voy hacer piccadillo!
I'm gonna make you into piccadillo! (Mexican spice)

¡Te voy a matar!
I'm gonna kill you!

¡Atras de ti, imbecil!
Behind you, idiot/imbecil!

-----After Outrunning the First Boulder, Villagers on Bridge Say-----

Se mira enano!/Se mira como enano!
He looks tiny!

¡Mierda!
Sh*t!

[DarkMaster]

Why do you only have the Red9? You absolutely need to have the shotgun at all times, it can get you out of pretty much any predicament. My only advice would be aim for the heads and knock the ladders down... eventually they leave, just try to stay alive for a while.

[Crash]

Why do you only have the Red9? You absolutely need to have the shotgun at all times, it can get you out of pretty much any predicament. My only advice would be aim for the heads and knock the ladders down... eventually they leave, just try to stay alive for a while.

no, i got the fully upgraded shot gun.. but the only ammo i have for it is the 10 rounds on the table....

[BlueFire]

helllllppp.... i'm in the cabin (about 6 hours in) and I keep getting my ass handed to me because all I have if the red 9... (and i leave the other dude to fend for himself downstairs... tips on beating this would be greatly appreciated !

here are some translations of the villagers:


When Leon enters the first house and shows the man the picture, he says this:
¿Qué carajo estás haciendo aquí? Lárgate cabrón.
Which means:
What the f*ck are you doing here? Get the hell out of here mother f*cker.

After entering Cabin #3, villagers can be heard saying:
¡Abre la puerta!
Which means:
Open the door!

Vallan por detrás.
Which means:
Go from behind.

And of course, after the bell rings, during the cutscene, the villagers say:
La campana
Which means:
The bell

Es hora de rezar
Which means:
It's time to pray

Tenemos que irnos
Which means:
We have to go

-----Random Villager Dialogue-----

¡Te voy hacer piccadillo!
I'm gonna make you into piccadillo! (Mexican spice)

¡Te voy a matar!
I'm gonna kill you!

¡Atras de ti, imbecil!
Behind you, idiot/imbecil!

-----After Outrunning the First Boulder, Villagers on Bridge Say-----

Se mira enano!/Se mira como enano!
He looks tiny!

¡Mierda!
Sh*t!


lmao most of that spanish is common sense. and picadillo is cut up meat, not a spice. :P

[Jason1]

A little over 5 hours in now, and I finally ran out of room in my Medium Attache case. So I upgraded to a large. Im now playing with 4 guns:

Upgraded Punisher
Upgraded Shotgun
Upgraded Rifle
And a Rocket Launcher.

[Crash]

i got the upgraded case right away, i have

red9
tmp 9 mm
max shotgun
max rifle
all with scopes and stocks...

i just got to the barn fight... oh yeah. that's awesome!

[AzeaL]

i dont have this game or a gamecube, but looks better on GC than on PS2

[Canyarion]

....... how would you know, there hasn't been a single screenshot of the PS2 version.

But on the other hand, we all know it won't look that nice on PS2... :)

[BlueFire]

I've been playing this game since Friday and I'm in the castle. I got a game over because I sold my rifle and I needed it to prevent Ashley from being kidnapped. I have to say one thing. Those monks are annoying little ****s. >.>

[Jason1]

I've been playing this game since Friday and I'm in the castle. I got a game over because I sold my rifle and I needed it to prevent Ashley from being kidnapped. I have to say one thing. Those monks are annoying little ****s. >.>


I havent had much trouble with the monks...I mean once or twice when I was defending Ashley, I would be trying to snipe a monk and one would pop up in my face right in front of the scope...in which case I would quickly switch back to Shotgun and blast that motha to smitherenes...

[Dark Samurai]

I've been playing this game since Friday and I'm in the castle. I got a game over because I sold my rifle and I needed it to prevent Ashley from being kidnapped. I have to say one thing. Those monks are annoying little ****s. >.>


Never... EVER!... sell your rifle... it is just as important to the game as Ashley... ;)

If you do, get another rifle...

Like the Riot Gun or the like...

[BlueFire]

Never... EVER!... sell your rifle... it is just as important to the game as Ashley... ;)

If you do, get another rifle...

Like the Riot Gun or the like...

The riot gun is a rifle?.. :confused: I thougt it was a shotgun

[Dark Samurai]

The riot gun is a rifle?.. :confused: I thougt it was a shotgun

:sneaky:

Uh...

I meant the other one...

The Auto Sniper Rifle...

yes... thats it...

[DarkMaster]

Yeah, the rifle is the only gun you NEED to have at certain points.

[Tortalius]

well... You don't actually need the rifle if you're godly with a pistol, but yea.

I did manage to beat the game with nothing but the manual rifle because I initially throught a semi-automatic gun was like a machine gun, but by the time I realized my mistake, it wasn't worth it to buy it and lose the upgrades I'd put into the basic rifle.

[The Duggler]

The old school riffle is much more fun to shoot with/recharge.

[Dyne]

I beat the game the other day. I pretty much beat the game with the Riot gun, and the occasional normal Rifle.

I can't wait to play the things I unlocked.

[DeathsHand]

The old school riffle is much more fun to shoot with/recharge.

Agreed...

When my friend tried to play my saved game (my second time through the game), he commented on how horrible my guns were (he owns the game too) and was wondering how the hell I beat the game with them...

Then he made me buy all the upgraded new guns...

But the rifle... It's just not as satisfying when he doesn't do his reload animation after every shot...

[Jason1]

yea I also have the original rifle maxed out. Im nearing the end now I suspect, 13 hours in, down in that area after you jump in the trash bin...

[Canyarion]

after you jump in the trash bin...
:wtf: They stole Xantars trademark???

[The Germanator]

:wtf: They stole Xantars trademark???

Psh...I feel like Oscar had that trademark a long time ago...

http://www.geocities.com/curmudgeony_librarian/image/curmud/oscar.jpg

[Blackmane]

No, Oscar the Grouch so stole that from Xantar....so stole it...

[Neo]

I'm 11 hours in, and I have the XL case with lots of goodies:

Rifle/scope
TMP/stock (kept finding ammo so thought I should buy it)
Rocket Launcher (found)
Blacktail
Riot Gun
Mine Thrower
Broken Butterfly (found)