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Canyarion
12-21-2004, 04:41 AM
Ok, Japanese sales. First week of the PSP, second of the DS.

System - this week - last week - total this year

Nintendo DS - 198,892 - 468,883 - 667,775
Sony PSP - 160,019 - - - 160,019

Seems like Sony didn't sell all their PSPs.

Software:

1 - Dragon Quest VIII: Sora to Umi to Daichi to Norowareshi Himigime PS2 - 203,618 (2,846,971) Square-Enix
2 NEW Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Yoshimune PS2 - 188,927 (188,927) Daito Giken
3 NEW Mobile Suit Gundam vs Z Gundam PS2 - 183,583 (183,583) Bandai
4 NEW Minna no GOLF Portable PSP - 65,900 (65,900) Sony
5 NEW RockMan EXE 5 Team of Blues GBA - 64,860 (64,860) Capcom
6 NEW Ridge Racers PSP - 60,624 (60,624) Namco
7 V Sawaru Made in Wario DS - 58,083 (206,908) Nintendo
8 V Super Mario 64 DSDS - 54,829 (206,202) Nintendo
9 NEW FIFA Total Football PS2 - 53,617 (53,617) EA
10 V Mario Party 6 GameCube - 39,231 (217,583) Nintendo

http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=7293

DarkMaster
12-21-2004, 10:57 AM
Holy crap DQVIII, that thing is going to end up beating Halo 2 international sales.

MuGen
12-21-2004, 12:12 PM
Well SONY had to be tight asses and only release 200,000 units....but in any case didn't sell all of them. We'll see how they do in U.S.

Dragon Quest VIII I have to pick it up!!!

Swan
12-21-2004, 12:35 PM
Well, those numbers aren't too shocking. Noboyd expected the PSP to beat Nintendo in the handheld department. This is wear Nintendo excels. The PSP won't fail, just won't rape the DS.

Jonbo298
12-21-2004, 01:21 PM
I love when a new Dragon Quest comes out and then see Japanese numbers a few weeks later. It's insane :eyes:

But its nice to see that Sony sold moderately, although not a sell-out like I'm guessing they wanted but still a good start.

Null
12-21-2004, 01:30 PM
basically they did sell out of it.

your never going to get an exact number. There was reports from japanese sales tracking companies that said over 170,000 on the first day.

the numbers are going to bounce up and down and gunna be reported differently dependong on who did the tracking.

same with DS. all you can get are rough estimates.

Ginkasa
12-21-2004, 05:39 PM
Well, those numbers aren't too shocking. Noboyd expected the PSP to beat Nintendo in the handheld department. This is wear Nintendo excels. The PSP won't fail, just won't rape the DS.


The numbers for just one week don't seem all that different, though. I might (very likely) be wrong, I don't know any sales numbers from previous non-Nintendo handhelds, but I think Sony could be doing better than any previous contender.

It coule be very possible that the PSP gains steam and knocks the DS down.

Or Sony could feel Nintendo's wrath as so many other companies have (in the handheld department).

Its too early to tell, really. Give it a year.


*shrugs and walks away*

Swan
12-21-2004, 08:04 PM
The numbers for just one week don't seem all that different, though. I might (very likely) be wrong, I don't know any sales numbers from previous non-Nintendo handhelds, but I think Sony could be doing better than any previous contender.

It coule be very possible that the PSP gains steam and knocks the DS down.

Or Sony could feel Nintendo's wrath as so many other companies have (in the handheld department).

Its too early to tell, really. Give it a year.


*shrugs and walks away*
Yeah, I don't think that either of them will surpass the other by too much. I think it will end up how we have it in the console world. More the one system that isn't failing. (bad wording, I know)

MuGen
12-22-2004, 03:09 AM
there will always be a rough numbers according to who reports it. Look at how they called this year's election.. so many channels with so many different numbers.

In any case, if Sony released more than 200,000 more people would've probably picked one up... instead of seeing that a lot of stores were sold out of them already. Yodabashi Camera the largest game store in the Shinjuku District sold out of the PSP in the first 3 hours. So... the numbers could be due to largely stores in different districts not carrying enough.

i.e. More Nintendo fans in one district, has more PSP's available when another district full of Sony fans suffer with a store thats sold out... I dunno if any of you catch my drift...

Crash
12-31-2004, 06:24 AM
Latest sales figures from Japan...

sony PSP = ... well look at signature



PS2 Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special 201,005
2 DS Super Mario 64 DS 150,550 (416,125)
3 GC Mario Party 6 138,124 (416,563)
4 GBA Yoshi no Banyuuin Ryoku 112,663 (161,344)
5 PS2 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Konami 110,438 (658,624)
6 GC Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat 107,467 (**155,000)
7 DS Sawaru Made in Wario 106,861 (377,243)
8 GBA Rockman EXE 5 Blue Team 105,104
9 PS2 Dragon Quest VIII 104,211 (3,103,477)
10 GBA Konjiki no Gashbell! Unare Yujou no Dengeki 2 102,210


DS -- 396,674 (1,286,074)
GBASP -- 190,268 (2,530,961)
PS2 -- 188,134 (2,691,666)
GC -- 108,311 (696,839)
PSP -- 107,217 (352,295)
GBA -- 3,877 (198,025)
Xbox -- 704 (37,083)
PSone -- 90 (14,029)
SC -- 76 (7464)


No PSP games in top 10???

Null
12-31-2004, 09:54 AM
lol. this surprises you? it hasnt even been released over here yet.

and honestly, if your tryin to push and say DS is better, 'games' isnt somthin you should be bringing up. ;)

Vampyr
12-31-2004, 12:09 PM
lol. this surprises you? it hasnt even been released over here yet.

and honestly, if your tryin to push and say DS is better, 'games' isnt somthin you should be bringing up. ;)

Those were sales figures from Japan.

I think it's too early yet to say which system is goin to sale most...but I'm happy to see the DS kicking butt at the moment. :)

And I can't wait for Dragon Quest VIII to come over here. :D

Null
12-31-2004, 01:04 PM
Those were sales figures from Japan.

I think it's too early yet to say which system is goin to sale most...but I'm happy to see the DS kicking butt at the moment. :)

And I can't wait for Dragon Quest VIII to come over here. :D


yea i know. but DS has passed thier main release cycle and is focusing on other parts, PSP is still in the release cycle focusing on that.

i dunno. im just not really sure why thoes numbers should be news to anyone. lol

Ace195
12-31-2004, 02:20 PM
Hrm. Nintendo years of experiance in the handhelp dept. Yet still has crappy games.

Sony first Handheld that I know of.. Good game line up..

I think in the years to come nintendo had better step up the games they put out for the DS or Sony will take the market.. :) There will be fanboy riots I tell you riots..

But I mean there are few games for my SP that I would actually buy nowadays I mean I have all the metroids and goldensun, and tactics.... I don't want any kiddy games..

So I personally think that nintendo will go down eventually.. Might take a while but they will flop like they did in the console market.. They are the last to use the newer digital media.. However there handhelds are cutting edge of the handheld world. But when sony figures it out......

/end rant

Jason1
12-31-2004, 02:22 PM
i dunno. im just not really sure why thoes numbers should be news to anyone. lol

Because everyone thought the PSP would dominate right from the get go. Much better specs, good price point, ect...

Perfect Stu
12-31-2004, 02:33 PM
Because everyone thought the PSP would dominate right from the get go. Much better specs, good price point, ect...

speak for yourself. I was 95% sure that anything named Game Boy _____ would outdo its competition for at LEAST the first 6 months.

Ginkasa
12-31-2004, 04:02 PM
*stares at "Nintendo DS"*

*doesn't find "GameBoy"*

:hmm:


*shrugs and walks away*

Canyarion
12-31-2004, 04:10 PM
PWN3D :D


(+rep Link!)

GameMaster
12-31-2004, 04:38 PM
*stares at "Nintendo DS"*

*doesn't find "GameBoy"*

:hmm:


*shrugs and walks away*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/synthoid/ds.jpg

:nono:

Null
12-31-2004, 07:27 PM
Because everyone thought the PSP would dominate right from the get go. Much better specs, good price point, ect...


i never saw anyone who said that, not once. what everyone was saying was it would take a pretty big chunk out of nintendos share of the market, which it already has. who wins is a tossup. its anyones game at this point.

i dont know how anyone could think it would dominate from the get go, later release, + limited numbers pretty much wrote it out in big enough letters that the blind could read it. Sony isnt nor wasnt going for dominance from the start. they're planning on winning the race, not get out to the quickest lead.

DeathsHand
01-01-2005, 12:41 AM
*stares at "Nintendo DS"*

*doesn't find "GameBoy"*

:hmm:


*shrugs and walks away*

It's Nintendo's new handheld...

And it takes the next leap in graphics (GB: NES/GBA: SNESish/DS: N64ish)...

So take what Stu said, replace "Anything named gameboy ______" with "Any Nintendo handheld" and it's the same thing and just as relevant...

I think the whole "It's not a gameboy, it's a DS!!!" thing is stupid...

Perfect Stu
01-01-2005, 10:50 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/synthoid/ds.jpg

:nono:

ROFFLEROFFLEROFFLE

LMAO

:rolleyes:

thanks, GM. *flip_bird* at Link and Cany. does he get his minus rep now?

Ginkasa
01-01-2005, 11:17 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/synthoid/ds.jpg

:nono:


Hmm. Odd that none of the pictures in this feature from IGN (http://ds.ign.com/articles/564/564540p1.html), Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00064MUIA/qid=1104595389/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2_etk-vg/103-1379023-5663810?v=glance&s=videogames&n=468642), or Nintendo's official website (lower left corner) (http://www.nintendo.com/systems) do not have the GameBoy logo on the DS box.

Has someone been modifying the images to make an invalid point? :nono:



ROFFLEROFFLEROFFLE

LMAO

:rolleyes:

thanks, GM. *flip_bird* at Link and Cany. does he get his minus rep now?


First: What all does ROFFLE stand for?

Second: -rep for me? Why? At least I remained honest in making my point. GM had to lower himself to lies and deceit to try and make yourself look better.

Really, who deserves the better reputation?


It's Nintendo's new handheld...

And it takes the next leap in graphics (GB: NES/GBA: SNESish/DS: N64ish)...

So take what Stu said, replace "Anything named gameboy ______" with "Any Nintendo handheld" and it's the same thing and just as relevant...

I think the whole "It's not a gameboy, it's a DS!!!" thing is stupid...

You know, originally I just thought it was funny that he said the whole "Anything named GameBoy ______" when the name is nowhere similar to GameBoy anything. Just Nintendo DS.

Its not about whether the DS is supposed to be a different system from the GameBoy or if it really is, in "spirit," the new GameBoy or what. He was referring to the name and got it wrong. If he said "Any Nintendo handheld" it would be completely different (in the terms of what I'm talking about, not the argument of whether the DS is a GameBoy or not).

*sigh*


*shrugs and walks away*

Null
01-01-2005, 11:29 AM
Hmm. Odd that none of the pictures in this feature from IGN (http://ds.ign.com/articles/564/564540p1.html),

official website (lower left corner)[/URL] do not have the GameBoy logo on the DS box.

Has someone been modifying the images to make an invalid point? :nono:



:hmm:
hmm.. *gives linkey a sense of humor for late christmas present*

Perfect Stu
01-01-2005, 04:13 PM
:hmm:
hmm.. *gives linkey a sense of humor for late christmas present*

lol

ROFL = roffle

a little high strung, are we?

Ace195
01-01-2005, 05:33 PM
I think link is stressed..

*pats link on the head*

*runs in fear of the sword*


AHHHHH!!!!

Jason1
01-02-2005, 03:57 PM
That is obviously another one of GM's Photoshop jobs.

MasterMind
01-03-2005, 02:33 AM
speak for yourself. I was 95% sure that anything named Game Boy _____ would outdo its competition for at LEAST the first 6 months.

Even though it does not say GameBoy on the box, I've heard plenty of people call it the new GameBoy. That goes for parents looking to buy a new handheld, to employees at large chain stores who don't know any better. This was especially true when I went christmas shopping. People would ask "Do you have any of the new GameBoys? Not knowing that it is actually called DS. They just associate Nintendo handheld with Gameboy. And the sales person would say the new GameBoys are more expensive, $150 then point them at the SP and say this one is cheaper, but it is not the newest Gameboy.
For Nintendo, I thinks its safe to say that this is where a majority of there handhelds get sold. To parents looking for new Gameboys for their children and they don't know the difference.

GameMaster
01-04-2005, 03:31 AM
Ginkasa, to disagree with my statements and proof is one thing, but to slander my name and ravage my reputation is wrong and will not be tolerated. Perhaps you're having trouble remembering your evil deeds? Allow me to refresh your memory:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/synthoid/flaming.jpg

You have 24 hours to respond to this post with a public apology. In addition, you will neutralize the -reps you cast upon thee with +reps. If you do not follow these terms within the allotted time, I'll be taking my case to Staff Forum where you will be charged to the fullest extent on the accounts of flaming and reputation harassment. If found guilty, you will face a temporary banning or permanent banning.

Don't think for a second that your long-time membership here will save you. In case you haven't noticed, we are all equals here and are to be treated as such.

Canyarion
01-04-2005, 03:50 AM
Roflmao, you faked that too? :D I love you, +rep!

Ginkasa
01-04-2005, 02:00 PM
Roflmao, you faked that too? :D I love you, +rep!



No. Rep war. I have just as many -reps than he does. From him. Apologies shall not be given! However, I would like to call a truce based on that this is Reputation Awareness Month.

*looks at third rep down*

That should be a -rep :unsure:


*shrugs and walks away*

GameMaster
01-04-2005, 03:37 PM
No. Rep war. I have just as many -reps than he does. From him. Apologies shall not be given! However, I would like to call a truce based on that this is Reputation Awareness Month.

*looks at third rep down*

That should be a -rep :unsure:


*shrugs and walks away*

*agrees to a month-long truce*

Canyarion
01-04-2005, 04:33 PM
Ah, good luck, will you tell us who's the winner by the end of the month? :D