IGN gets excited over playing MP3's

[Jonbo298]

This little part in their PSP launch thing gave me a good laugh.

We're currently working away at in-depth impressions of the games and the various features of the system, from music to movie playback (we're listening to MP3s right now!),

People still get excited over being able to play MP3's? It just amuses me how excited IGN gets just because they are listening to MP3's on their PSP. OMGOMGOMG LOLOLOLZ, I'm listening to MP3's on my handheld :p

(I'm not flaming the PSP, just poking fun at IGN :D )

[KillerGremlin]

I heard there is a way, using the USB port, to connect the PSP to your anus so you can fly.

[GameMaster]

They're just trying to cast a shadow on the DS's explosive, unrelenting success.

Guess what IGN? No one cares about listening to MP3's on a PSP. In fact, it completley blows. Cool people listen to MP3's on MP3 Players. What a novel idea!

[Jonbo298]

Careful there GM :p

[Typhoid]

They're just trying to cast a shadow on the DS's explosive, unrelenting success.

Guess what IGN? No one cares about listening to MP3's on a PSP. In fact, it completley blows. Cool people listen to MP3's on MP3 Players. What a novel idea!



Yes, and some people play games on Handhelds other than phones. Also, a novel Idea.

I dont see the difference of being able to play music on a phone, and playing music on a PSP. Or even an MP3 player. Can you play games on your MP3 player? No. Can you on a PSP? Yes.

PSP>MP3 Player.

[GameMaster]

Since you and I seem to be in opposing conflict again, why not let our GameTavern friends choose the winner?

Boys, teach this kid a lesson. :cool:

[Perfect Stu]

dissing up the PSP for playing MP3's is the same as dissing up an iPod for playing MP3's

having said that, "(we're listening to MP3s right now!)" sounds stupid.

but I'm looking forward to MP3 playback, as I dont have an MP3 player

[Teuthida]

dissing up the PSP for playing MP3's is the same as dissing up an iPod for playing MP3's

Actually since an iPod's main purpose is to play mp3s, your comparison is invalid. Now if you were to say "dissing up an iPod for being able to play solitaire" then you might have something. Unless of course you feel the main purpose of the PSP is to games mp3s and not games...

GBA has been able to play mp3s for quite some time with a cartridge attachment. Don't see how much different that is from PSP where the mp3s are stored on a memory stick you must purchase.

[Perfect Stu]

Actually since an iPod's main purpose is to play mp3s, your comparison is invalid. Now if you were to say "dissing up an iPod for being able to play solitaire" then you might have something. Unless of course you feel the main purpose of the PSP is to games mp3s and not games...

GBA has been able to play mp3s for quite some time with a cartridge attachment. Don't see how much different that is from PSP where the mp3s are stored on a memory stick you must purchase.

who cares what its main purpose is?

it's the same function.

about GBA...how is the quality of the mp3's, ive never heard of this function

[Null]

Can you play games on your MP3 player? No.


Actually, Yes you can. the ipod comes with games on it. :p



And i find it halarious how people like to diss the psp instead of being excited about the DS. getting bored with the DS or something?

and to support Stu's comparason...

Its the same as dissing the DS for having picto chat.
Its the same as dissing the ipod for playing games.


I mean seriously, if you wanted to turn this same discussion around on DS, people were getting so excited about picto chat, OMG HAHAHA, HE HE HE!!! thats what phones, computer instant messengers, and letters are for!!! :rolleyes:

Both handhelds have thier extra features, and both will be used. who bloody cares?

(And this wasnt directed at you Jonbo :p)

[Jason1]

I heard there is a way, using the USB port, to connect the PSP to your anus so you can fly.


LOL man...good stuff.

Anyways, Nintendo dosent need to offer 200bucks worth of extra **** on their handheld to get people to buy it...I think we've seen that allready...

[Null]

LOL man...good stuff.

Anyways, Nintendo dosent need to offer 200bucks worth of extra **** on their handheld to get people to buy it...I think we've seen that allready...


aparently for DS they do :p its not strickly gaming, it has extra's

[Stonecutter]

Since you and I seem to be in opposing conflict again, why not let our GameTavern friends choose the winner?

Boys, teach this kid a lesson. :cool:
What's important isn't whether you're right, or he's right, what important is that IGN are a bunch of dolts.

:D

Just so we're all clear on that.

[Vampyr]

aparently for DS they do :p its not strickly gaming, it has extra's

What? Pictochat?

I'm sure a lot of people bought a DS for that. :\

And besides, you can argue that as a game. You can play games with it. :D

[Blackmane]

What's important isn't whether you're right, or he's right, what important is that IGN are a bunch of dolts.

:D

Just so we're all clear on that.

I think Stonecutter hit it on the head.

Why are we bickering amongst ourselves? This is a gaming forum, and both of these handhelds play games, and both have their special features. Its up to you which ones you like (and also which games you prefer) to decide what you want.

Let IGN be idiot fanboys for the PSP. They lose a little more respect everytime they do that.

[KillerGremlin]

I think all the extras on the PSP are great, personally, however, we will see how the cost weighs out in the end. The PSP is going to have memory sticks and other expansions added on to its base-price. The one nice thing about the DS so far is the fact that there haven't been any news of add-ons.

I wouldn't mind listening to music while playing Twisted Metal on the go, but we'll see how the average consumer feels on the issue.

And yes, IGN is retarded.

[Null]

What? Pictochat?

I'm sure a lot of people bought a DS for that. :\

And besides, you can argue that as a game. You can play games with it. :D

For one yes, and no, id never argue it as a game. you can make a game out of anything. therefor you could argue mp3's as a game since you can create games with them. (play a song, have someone guess the title. theres a game)

i can make a game out of a tree stump. doesnt mean i'd call it a game.

I think all the extras on the PSP are great, personally, however, we will see how the cost weighs out in the end. The PSP is going to have memory sticks and other expansions added on to its base-price. The one nice thing about the DS so far is the fact that there haven't been any news of add-ons.

memory sticks arent required. so dont really see how its going to effect the cost. thats just what you do with it.




I dont read ign, so i guess im just missing out on what people are crying about, but it seems to me they just prefer one over the other. everyone has thier prefrences, if people dont like thiers, perhaps its just time to stop going to that website?

[Vampyr]

In the future Pictochat will be really usefull for gaming, though. You will be able to contact people you want to play with via wifi. MP3's serve absolutely no purpose for gaming. IF they didn't include pictochat, than it would kind of be like playing an online game on the computer without a chatroom or lobby to meet people in.

I do agree with you on the last part, though. All people do around here anymore is complain about what IGN said. Just don't read it anymore. :\ And this just backs up Null's argument in another thread that all people focus on are the negative comments.

[Typhoid]

IF they didn't include pictochat, than it would kind of be like playing an online game on the computer without a chatroom or lobby to meet people in.


You mean like almost every MMORPG, RPG, Sports game, and War fighting game?

[Null]

In the future Pictochat will be really usefull for gaming, though. You will be able to contact people you want to play with via wifi. MP3's serve absolutely no purpose for gaming. IF they didn't include pictochat, than it would kind of be like playing an online game on the computer without a chatroom or lobby to meet people in.

I do agree with you on the last part, though. All people do around here anymore is complain about what IGN said. Just don't read it anymore. :\ And this just backs up Null's argument in another thread that all people focus on are the negative comments.

im not saying it doesnt have its purposes that you can use it for, im saying its not a game and they included it. they coulda put a spot to put a headset in, or just used normal chat.
Mp3's can serve to music to listen to while you play games. its not a game, just as the picto chat isnt, but people can find uses for it.

However im a bit confused on the one sentence, i never meet people in a lobby before playing a game. lol. you just hop on a server where people are. why would you need to talk to them first? computer games especially, you hop on, it lists servers and how many people are playing on each server and you join one. you can talk DURING the game, but i never talk before.

Console games, which i think your refering to work a lot differently since people dont create constant 24/7 servers, they host games where everyone syncs up together. therefor people have to get together enough people before playing a game.
but even so..., tho they have a lobby where people can talk, no one uses it to organize games to play, they sometimes talk about meaningless stuff. but when they want to play, they just hop on someones game they created and are waiting for people to join. either that or on a 1on1 game they challenge random people.

But lobby for computer games, no, because theres no centralized server.

[Canyarion]

This is way different from PC online games. Here you notice that there's someone with a DS close by and you start talking to him. You agree on the game, then you start playing.
You can't host a game 24/7... :unsure:

[Null]

This is way different from PC online games. Here you notice that there's someone with a DS close by and you start talking to him. You agree on the game, then you start playing.
You can't host a game 24/7... :unsure:

:hmm:

i think i just said that. :p

[Blackmane]

Yea, but we didn't want to actually read your post to find where you said that ;)

Also, do you need to do the weird formatting thing on the memory sticks to play music as well as movies? Because that will hurt a lot of the average consumers appeal for that.

[Null]

Yea, but we didn't want to actually read your post to find where you said that ;)

Also, do you need to do the weird formatting thing on the memory sticks to play music as well as movies? Because that will hurt a lot of the average consumers appeal for that.

i think so, but i doubt it'll hurt any appeal at all. from what i've read its a very easy and simple process. some are just trying to make a bigger deal of it.

reason is because they're just normal memory sticks. instead of making an entirly new memory stick they used the one already made, which is a good idea for em.

[Blackmane]

Well, as long as it is simple and they explain it really clearly in their manual or whatever, there shouldn't be a problem. From what I read, it looked like a big hassle, but maybe not.

[Null]

Well, as long as it is simple and they explain it really clearly in their manual or whatever, there shouldn't be a problem. From what I read, it looked like a big hassle, but maybe not.

from what it sounds like.... you just put the memory stick in the psp, select format and it takes all of a couple seconds. lol

what they're nitpicking at in the other topic pretty much has nothing to do with what an average gamer would care about with the psp, they're trying to convert a video format into a format that the psp will read off the memory stick.

[bobcat]

What's important isn't whether you're right, or he's right, what important is that IGN are a bunch of dolts.

:D

Just so we're all clear on that.

Yeh I think GM's point was that the IGN guys were getting excited about playing mp3's on a handheld. That idea ain't the most exciting thing for me that comes to mind when I think of the PSP.

[Xantar]

So IGN gets excited about mp3 playback on the PSP, eh? So some of you are looking forward to listening to mp3s on your PSP, eh?

Well, let's see here. mp3s have to be stored on the Memory Stick unless they come on the UMD (not happening. It just won't happen).

A 32 megabyte Memory Stick costs $35.

A 64 megabyte Memory Stick will set you back $50.

Assuming 128-bit encoding (and lots of people use higher quality these days), 64 megabytes is about enough for 12 typical songs or a little over an hour of music.

This is assuming, of course, that you aren't storing other things on the Memory Stick. Like saved games.

Am I the only one here who sees an elephant?

[Ace195]

Not to be mean or anything oh great xantar the migty *bows before him* but your prices are way way way off, 256 mb memory stick on the first site I looked at is 56 dollars. and thats best buy thats not even comparison shopping fot the lowest price..
Here is a link for anyone that wants one..

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1058188520936&skuId=5800877&type=product&cmp=++

I'm all for the DS I love the touch screen and everything, however all those getting mad about the mp3's look at the GBA's ability to play tv shows by buying the media.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product_listing.gsp?cat=134815&path=0%3A2636%3A55359%3A77171%3A134815

So I mean each of them has their own downfall. I personally like the DS and I plan on getting one but I don't see the point of paying 150 for something that wont do my e-mail and planner, eh so I'll stick with getting my palm for the time being until these drop in price.


And that folks is ace195's 2 cents

[Xantar]

Ok, I guess that site I was looking at was either way off or had really old prices for some reason.

So now for $56, you can get two hours of music. That is assuming you don't store anything else on that Memory Stick such as saved games. Or photos.

I'm still very underwhelmed.

But at least IGN isn't getting excited about the possibilities of movie playback on the PSP. That would be just...stupid.

[Canyarion]

Well... It's supposed to be a nice extra, like the DVD player on the PS2. But the PS2 sold better for that than for games. :p

It's a nice feature for those that have no MP3 player yet. But I'd rather spare battery life.

[Null]

But the PS2 sold better for that than for games. :p

lol, not exactly.



and mp3 playback i dont think eats up much batterylife. something like 8 to 10 hours for mp3's i thought?

[Canyarion]

Well I meant in the first months of the PS2 life. :) Forgot to add that part. :p

8-10 hours for MP3?? I expected it to be much more... since the screen can be turned off. :confused:

[bobcat]

Well I meant in the first months of the PS2 life. :) Forgot to add that part. :p

8-10 hours for MP3?? I expected it to be much more... since the screen can be turned off. :confused:
Try 1-2 hours for my iPod.

Silly iPod. The battery is like non existant these days. I think you can actually buy batteries for it. I saw them on Ebay. But how do you open it?

[GT News]

Well I meant in the first months of the PS2 life. :) Forgot to add that part. :p

8-10 hours for MP3?? I expected it to be much more... since the screen can be turned off. :confused:
Try 1-2 hours for my iPod.

Silly iPod. The battery is like non existant these days. I think you can actually buy batteries for it. I saw them on Ebay. But how do you open it?

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[Perfect Stu]

Well I meant in the first months of the PS2 life. :)

lol

yeah, ok.

[Null]

Well I meant in the first months of the PS2 life. :) Forgot to add that part. :p

8-10 hours for MP3?? I expected it to be much more... since the screen can be turned off. :confused:

i knew what you meant,, and still no. not really.

mp3 players get like 8 to 15 hours usually. so its to be expected that it gets around that.



Try 1-2 hours for my iPod.

Silly iPod. The battery is like non existant these days. I think you can actually buy batteries for it. I saw them on Ebay. But how do you open it?

ipod actually the metal part can just slide off. get something small and wedge it between the edge of the metal and the edge of the face and you can start to seperate it.

[MuGen]

Just so we're all clear, the PSP is a media handheld, so to call it solely a gaming handheld in comparison to the DS would be unjustified. Since SONY clearly stated it to be a multimedia handheld... it wouldn't be WRONG for them to have the extra features it has.

So why bust on the PSP because it plays mp3's and people get excited over it? Truth be told, I drive so.. i dont need an mp3 player..... the one thing I'm excited about is the UMD movies..

*orgasms over Final Fantasy Advent Children*

[Null]

Truth be told, I drive so.. i dont need an mp3 player.....


i need a mp3 player BECAUSE i drive. i have an indash 5disc cd changer, but it doesnt compare to having a few thousand songs from my ipod hooked up to my car stereo ;)

[bobcat]

i need a mp3 player BECAUSE i drive. i have an indash 5disc cd changer, but it doesnt compare to having a few thousand songs from my ipod hooked up to my car stereo ;)
True this.

I need to buy another iTrip. I had the iPod + iTrip in my pocket when I was drunk jumping on a swiss ball. The pin bent.

So heart breaking. Oh and I'll try replacing the battery then. Sweet!

[Canyarion]

Only no one will ever have something even close to 1000 songs on a PSP. :p

Remember that hybrids usually don't do that well.... But Sony can probably handle it.

edit: never-->ever

[Null]

True this.

I need to buy another iTrip. I had the iPod + iTrip in my pocket when I was drunk jumping on a swiss ball. The pin bent.

So heart breaking. Oh and I'll try replacing the battery then. Sweet!


itrip? no no my friend. you want... http://www.neocaraudio.com/prod-ion.html

hook it DIRECTLY up to your car stereo, and actually control the ipod with the buttons on the radio. ;)

i dont have that yet but im planning on getting it. my car is suported on the list :D


Only no one will never have something even close to 1000 songs on a PSP. :p

i wouldnt say never, how do you know no one will have that many songs on a psp? the memory sticks are just going to get bigger and bigger. i say eventually they will have one big enough to hold 1000, of course by then we'd already have 100 GB ipods. :D

[Xantar]

So why bust on the PSP because it plays mp3's and people get excited over it? Truth be told, I drive so.. i dont need an mp3 player..... the one thing I'm excited about is the UMD movies..

*orgasms over Final Fantasy Advent Children*

I hope you really like Advent Children, then, because it's likely to be the only movie released on PSP. Unless they release Digimon episodes as well. IGN may be a bunch of PSP fanboys, but even they don't get excited about UMD movies. Maybe they realize that it's going to be about the most anemic movie playback ever conceived.

[Null]

I hope you really like Advent Children, then, because it's likely to be the only movie released on PSP. Unless they release Digimon episodes as well. IGN may be a bunch of PSP fanboys, but even they don't get excited about UMD movies. Maybe they realize that it's going to be about the most anemic movie playback ever conceived.

indeed indeed.

now if they later on start selling blank umd discs and a umd burner, its an entirly different story.

[Perfect Stu]

how about them PSP GAMES?

after filming my trip to Las Vegas early next year, a PSP will be great to display pics and videos from the vacation, as well as play games (its main function) and MP3's without having to take my digital videocamera everywhere.

Now the DS may have OMG BETTER BATTERY LIFE AND NONE OF THAT EXTRA CRAP, and that's fine. the PSP's multimedia aspect appeals to me more...I'd be more willing to pay more money for the better screen, the better graphics and the extra functions.

Isnt that all there is to it? If the system appeals to you, talk about it. Share anticipation. People prancing into threads just to point out the shortcomings of this or that is getting tired and old.

[MuGen]

I agree... I simply said how UMD movies is exciting for me, and they simply shot that one down too.

But to give them all a blindshot Blu-Ray is working with Toshiba to release a UMD-R drive. Also.. My sister who just came from Japan told me she saw a poster for upcoming UMD releases for PSP:

House of Flying Daggers
FF7 Advent Children
Warriors of heaven and earth
Ace Venture Pet Detective
Bourne Supremecy

So... I highly doubt Advent Children will be the only UMD movie... but I have no doubt thats what nintendo fanatics hope.

[Xantar]

Waa waa waa...people are pointing out that the UMD format won't get a lot of support...damnit, they are so tiresome! We need enthusiasm! ENTHUSIASM!!!

Look, guys, if you enjoy it and want it, I'm not going to stop you. I'm not so self-centered that I want people to actually have a bad time and waste their money. But if you expect me to just not notice that Sony is trying to shovel a new format down our throats when a perfectly workable and widely accepted alternative already exists, you've got another thing coming.

Anyway, I could point out here that subtitles will get tiresome to read on the PSP's small screen which also incidentally has a lower resolution than a TV. But hey, maybe you'll like it. I could also point out that the prospect of seeing Ace Ventura several years after it's gone by and faded into pop culture history doesn't exactly light my viscera on fire. I guess that leaves The Bourne Supremacy which is a decent movie (if perhaps a little too shaky with the camera). Will it cause PSP movie playback functionality to skyrocket in popularity? Only time will tell, but I'm guessing not.

Now I exaggerated a little bit when I said that Advent Children will be the only movie released on UMD. I have no doubt that a few movies will come out on UMD initially. But it will also peter ou. Why should any production company put their movies on UMD format, which will reach an audience of maybe 5 million people within the next two or three years, when they can just put it out on DVD and reach hundreds of millions of people with DVD players? Yeah, the PSP is portable, but people don't watch full length movies on the go all that much. Those who do have portable DVD players of some sort (maybe in their laptops). Either that or they rent the DVD player (I've been saying rental stations at airports a lot lately). If you know anything at all about the electronics and media business, you know that UMD is just going to be a speed bump for DVD to roll over.

Now if you want to talk about the PSP games, I'm all for it. As Perfect Stu points out, that's what it was made to do. And if you want to talk about how you're excited about this or that new function, go right ahead. It's your opinion. I don't begrudge it. But in my opinion, PSP's multimedia functions suck. And I have no doubt that within five years, if the PSP makes it that far, people will just be talking about its games and nobody will care about its movie or mp3 playback. Kind of like nobody cares about GBA connectivity for the GameCube.

And hey, if you're tired of posts like these...well, don't read them.